An eternal debate on if Nostradamus Anagrams
for NAY PAU LORON and HISTER means Napoleon King and Hitler.
Likewise on the possibility that the following Anagrams are all
related:
Nostradamus' Alus Mabus
Bible's Armageddon Agog Magog
Mongol Dynasty Angols Mongols (= Two races)
Facts:
1. Magog is an ancient RACE in the Bible.
2. Mongol Empire's ended at the Angol's border (Hungary) and not
further into Rome's legacy: Europe.
3. Daniel's statue with legs of Iron = Rome Empire and its "final" 10
toes of Iron/Clay = Rome's offspring: Europe.
4. Daniel's 4th BEAST is the Lion with Iron teeth = Rome Empire and
its 10 horns = Rome's Offspring: Europe
(Like the other Beasts (Ram, Goat, Lion) in Daniel, the 666 BEAST is
also an EMPIRE and an Antichrist)
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Some Nostradamus quatrains specify the Final Antichrist (=
Anti-Christian Ambitions) as the THIRD Antichrist.
5. Many believe the first two Antichrists were Napoleon and Hitler.
Both wished to become EMPERORS of ALL EUROPE (thus UNITE Europe as one
country), both of them failed as prophesized by Daniel: "unlike the
legs of the statue, the ten toes of the statue shall REMAIN SEPERATE
in the same way Iron and Clay cannot mix."
6. Not even Russia was ever able to dent Rome or Europe. And NOT the
Byzantium Constantinople Empire which only divided the Roman Empire in
two (two legs of the statue).
7. In fact all these centuries: ONLY One other BEAST (Empire) was able
to DENT/ENCROACH upon Daniel's Lion (Rome) BEAST; that other Empire
was the Mongol Empire. (And perhaps future 666 Beast).
8. Not the Turks but the Angols (Hungary) caused Rome/Europe the most
torment and upheaval. From Attila the Hun to the Goths which all came
from Angol regions (Hungary) and were a mixed breed/race combination
of ancient Mongols and Angols.
9. So much wars that Latins from Rome are extinct and replaced with
the present Italians.
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Revelation and Daniel Controversy:
PROS:
10 toes are last part of the Empires (= Europe and not Mongols)
Christ is to smite the 10 toes (= Europe and not the Mongols)
The Lion's ten horns remain and "finally" war with Christ (not the
Mongols)
Revelation's ten horns war with Christ
CONS:
Magog is an ancient race.... 10 toes of Europe is not ancient
Revelation's 100 million soldiers from the East of the Euphrates thus
not Europe nor Muslim Arabians (all these countries together don't
have 100 million people only Mongol with China = 1.5 Billion)
Revelation's Beast Empire that: "is, is not, and is to come" could be
a Resurrected and Reunited Rome Empire or a Resurrected Mongol
Empire....
Magog/Armaggedon only comes after Satan is bound for 1000 years thus
perhaps Mongol Empire and not the previous Empire which also wars with
Christ (false prophet and beast dropped into the lake of fire).
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Revelation's Beast Empire that: "is, is not, and is to come":
THE RESURECTION:
Ever since the Turk's OTTOMAN Empire…the China/Mongol Empire has been
crippled until this last century ONLY. In early 1900's Russia lost
Mongolia to China. Hong Kong and Taiwan are now back to China.
Russia's economy just collapsed and ALL it's southern states wish to
separate (Mongol Empire progressed quickly and easily along these
southern states towards the Angols in Hungary before it descended
along the Euphrates to Babylon. And thanks to Bush: the Shiites
Muslims now in Iraq and Iran are back in power forming a new Persian
semi-empire that may combine with the Mongols. Contrary to the present
time in all history it was the Sunni Muslims that were on the side of
both the Ottoman and the British/American Empires. Bush at present is
re-reversing those settings and just gave China the Royal Red Carpet
treatment to display to Taiwan that the US is with China and not
Taiwan over Separatism issues.
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| User: "Nobody special" |
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| Title: Re: The Coming ANTICHRIST |
16 Dec 2003 01:12:53 PM |
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"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0312160844.44ffc3bb@posting.google.com...
An eternal debate on if Nostradamus Anagrams
for NAY PAU LORON and HISTER means Napoleon King and Hitler.
Likewise on the possibility that the following Anagrams are all
related:
Nostradamus' Alus Mabus
Bible's Armageddon Agog Magog
Mongol Dynasty Angols Mongols (= Two races)
<SNIP>
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Accrediting Nostradamus with mentioning
actual names or anagrams thereof of future
persons/places gives him the appearance
of having greater revelation than that of even
the major prophets of the O.T. or of John
the Revelator. The biblical prophets never
did this. There are occasions when a
prophet mentions a contemporary ruler in
a prophecy as when G_d mentions "Cyrus,
my anointed" through one prophet.
Occasional use of anagrams was only used
to obscure, through the application of
"atbash" where "Babylon", for instance becomes
"Shishak". The use of "beasts" that had
features that can be identified with future
rulers is as close as they came.
I think you are engaging in a futile
exercise.
But what do I know.
b'Shemo
nobody special
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| User: "loftydragon" |
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| Title: Re: The Coming ANTICHRIST |
16 Dec 2003 04:42:58 PM |
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(Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0312160844.44ffc3bb@posting.google.com>...
3. Daniel's statue with legs of Iron = Rome Empire and its "final" 10
toes of Iron/Clay = Rome's offspring: Europe.
Are you aware that both the early church fathers and the Jewish rabbis
had a concept of Nero Redivivus -- the revived Roman Emperor Nero as
the Antichrist?
The following excerpt is from the International Standard Bible
Encyclopedia:
"Nero Redivivus."
It seems as if there was something lovable even about this monster,
which led a freedman to remain faithful to the last, and his two old
nurses and cast-off concubine to care affectionately for his remains,
and for a long time there were not wanting hands to strew his grave
with spring and autumn flowers and to display his effigy (Suet. lvii).
But, whether from the strange circumstances of his death, or the
subsequent terrible confusion in the Roman world, or from whatever
cause, there soon arose a belief that Nero had not really died, but
was living somewhere in retirement or had fled among the Parthians,
and that he was destined in a short time to return and bring great
calamity upon his enemies or the world (quasi viventis et brevi magno
inimicorum malo reversuri: Suetonius lvii). This belief was a force
among the Parthians who were ready to take up arms at the report of a
pseudo-Nero (Tacitus, History i.2). In the confusion of the year of
the four emperors, Greece and Asia were disturbed by the report of the
advent of Nero (Tac. Hist. ii.8), and the historian promises to
mention the fortune and attempts of other pseudo-Neros. This belief
was taken up by the Jews and amalgamated with their legend of
Antichrist. In Ascension of Isaiah 4 (1st century AD), the Antichrist
is clearly identified with Nero: "Belial shall appear in the shape of
a man, the king of wickedness, the matricide." It occurs again and
again in both the Jewish and Christian sections of the Sib Or (3:66
ff; 4:117 f,135 ff; 5:100 f,136 f,216 f). How far Nero was regarded by
the Christians as the historical personage of Antichrist is a disputed
point. That the common belief of the revival or advent of Nero should
influence contemporary Christian thought in days of social and
political turmoil is highly probable. Bousset (Commentary) regards the
beast of Re 13 as Rome, and the smitten head whose "deathstroke was
healed" as Nero, and some scholars take Re 17:10 f as referring to
Nero. The "scarlet-colored beast" of 17:3 may be intended either for
the Roman government in general or for Nero in particular. That the
number 666 (Re 13:18) represents in Hebrew letters the numerical
equivalent of Neron Kesar is significant, for the Jewish Christians
would be familiar with gemaTriya' (the numerical equivalent of names).
See NUMBER. Compare Farrar, Early Days, chapter xxviii,. section 5. In
later times the idea of a twofold Antichrist seems to have arisen--one
for the Jews and one for the Gentiles; compare especially Commodian,
Carm. Apol. (926): "to us Nero became Antichrist, to the Jews the
other" (nobis Nero factus Antichristus, ille Judaeis). There was an
alternate theory that Nero had really been killed, but that he would
rise again (Sib Or 5:216 f; Augustine, De Civ. Dei, xx.19: unde
nonnulli ipsum resurrecturum et futurum Antichristum suspicantur).
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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| Title: Re: The Coming ANTICHRIST |
18 Dec 2003 05:05:34 PM |
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(loftydragon) wrote in message news:<13db0072.0312161442.795bee90@posting.google.com>...
guskz@hotmail.com (Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0312160844.44ffc3bb@posting.google.com>...
3. Daniel's statue with legs of Iron = Rome Empire and its "final" 10
toes of Iron/Clay = Rome's offspring: Europe.
Are you aware that both the early church fathers and the Jewish rabbis
had a concept of Nero Redivivus -- the revived Roman Emperor Nero as
the Antichrist?
The following excerpt is from the International Standard Bible
Encyclopedia:
"Nero Redivivus."
How about because Nero was the first persecutor of Christians, he
blamed the Rome Fire on them, but he is the Archetype for an
Antichrist, ie artistic and callous.
LB
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| User: "Peter K." |
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18 Dec 2003 06:38:07 AM |
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Considering these facts:
1. Daniel's beasts are Empires (Ram/Goat)
2. Revelation's beast "was, is not, and is to come" means a
Resurrected previous Empire from past History.
3. Bible's Agog and Magog are two Ancient Races (in Jeremiah)
4. Revelation's Agog and Magog are from the 4 corners of the world
5. Mongol's Empire had (a)"Angol and Mongol" which are two ancient
races that are very similar to the names (b)"Agog and Magog". Not to
mention the resemblance with Nostradamus' (c)"Alus and Mabus" as well
as his famous X.72 (d)"Angolmois" possible Anagram (that's a total of
4 matches)!!!!
6. Mongol's Empire very limits(corners) stretched from the Mongol Race
to the Angol Race (Hungary): Angol's caused Rome the most
destruction(not the Turkish Ottoman Empire). Notably Attila the Hun
and the Goths that came from the Angol Regions!
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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18 Dec 2003 04:09:14 PM |
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While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', (Peter K.)
scribbled:
5. Mongol's Empire had (a)"Angol and Mongol"
Huh??
which are two ancient
races that are very similar to the names (b)"Agog and Magog".
Gog and Magog, not Agog.
Not to
mention the resemblance with Nostradamus' (c)"Alus and Mabus"
Where in the quatrains do you find Alus AND Mabus in the same place?
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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16 Dec 2003 12:56:21 PM |
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Having skipped an E.L.F. meeting to be here, (Peter K.)
scribbled:
Nostradamus' Alus Mabus
Bible's Armageddon Agog Magog
Mongol Dynasty Angols Mongols (= Two races)
A) Mabus was a single PERSON to Nostradamus.
B) Nostradamus NEVER wrote about the Mongols!
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
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