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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
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Date: 21 Mar 2005 03:41:57 AM
Object: The Continuing Catastrophe
The Continuing Catastrophe
Called Chemtrails
By Diane Harvey
merak@sedona.net
11-30-3
Here in the Southwest we have been enduring yet another relentless
cycle of chemtrail deluge. You can call this phenomenon whatever you
like: these are dangerous aerosols permeating the atmosphere, our
lungs, the soil and water, and all animal and plant life. Whether one
prefers the term chemtrails or aerosol operations changes nothing: the
same deadly materials are saturating existence in any case. Day after
day, bright blue skies are being turned into sickening chemical
sludge. No one could deny the terrible effects poisons have on the
human organism, and on all other forms of life. And the sheer
accumulation of aerosol toxins over a long period of time is certainly
weakening everyone and everything. After all, it's one thing to
breathe toxic substances for a day, and quite another to breathe
poisons seeping from the sky for years at a time.

Any phenomenon that arises and returns into an enormous black hole of
absolute secrecy must always, by definition, breed speculation.
Because without hard fact, speculation remains the larger part of what
there is to work with. Our minds automatically try to fill in the
blanks of ignorance, whether with real information or wild guesses. We
all tend to jump to conclusions, simply because we so desperately need
to believe we know what is happening. In my opinion, the difficult and
unpleasant reality is that we still don't know exactly what chemtrails
are, or why our atmosphere is being subjected to this monumental and
abysmal alteration.

Nevertheless, as little as we know for sure, we already know the most
important facts.

* We know that ongoing aerosol operations are real, and that they are
unhealthy for all forms of life.

* We don't know what the secretive group doing this really thinks it
is doing.

* We do know that they lie about what they are doing, and lie on a
scale never before witnessed in human history.

* We know they have gone to immense expense and trouble to make the
very idea of aerosol operations appear ludicrous to the public.

* This means that they are working from the same irrefutably logical
premise we are: these operations are harmful, and must therefore be
hidden.

This is the rock-bottom truth: the absolute fact that every last one
of us agrees on.

Chemtrails are splayed across the sky in broad daylight and cannot be
hidden from the physical eyes. But they are still successfully hidden
from mass human understanding, through propaganda and increasingly
sophisticated techniques of behavior modification and mind control.

Talk radio and the Internet have made huge inroads on collective
ignorance. Millions of relatively open-minded people have come to
understand that chemtrails are not conspiracy theory but conspiracy
fact. Still, there are millions who have not noticed what is going on
over their heads, and who are either simply unaware, or perhaps
resistant to the very idea of conspiracies of this magnitude.

This is where everyone who wants to make a real difference can be very
useful. This is where we can continue to drill little holes in the
wall of lies. Through trial and error, we can learn how to talk about
this to those who do not know and would really rather not know. We can
learn to approach different types of people skillfully, armed with the
provable basic fact of chemtrails. The reality of ongoing aerosol
operations in the atmosphere is fairly easy to convey, provided one
does not overwhelm people with negative energy and wild speculations
when introducing the subject. Of course not everyone will listen, no
matter how easy we make it for others to hear what we have to say.
There will always be a percentage of human beings who prefer ignorance
to hearing any incoming bad news whatsoever. But I've learned the hard
way that most people will listen to me if I'm not too angry or intense
about it. If I speak lightly and matter-of-factly, and ask reasonable
questions about what those odd lines in the sky might mean, almost no
one ever shuts down and walks away. They will usually interact
intelligently, provided I remain emotionally positive and personable
and listen to their ideas and thoughts, however contrary to what we
know to be true. If we approach people with sensitivity, rather than
bowling them over with passionate intensity and a barrage of false
certainties about what this all is, a surprisingly large number of
people can't help listening. After all, we are telling the truth, and
that has a very real power to convince, if we give it a chance.

The existence of chemtrails remains a word of mouth campaign after all
these years. The difference between successful and unsuccessful
communication of the basic facts is all the difference in the world.
And since this aspect is all we have control over on a daily basis, we
ought to make the most of it.

We have no choice except to continue to try to think clearly about
this abysmal operation, and to speak up about it wherever and whenever
we can. We must continue trying to fit the pieces of the puzzle
together, no matter how confusing or tedious it can become. Some of us
still have open minds, while others are true believers in one possible
answer or another. Obviously the ultimate truth of what chemtrails are
and are for- whatever that truth turns out to be- matters more than
any particular person's opinions or beliefs about all this. Our
speculations are necessary, interesting and useful: but they remain
just that. If I choose to believe one theory or another, it still
remains a belief on my part rather than an absolute certainty. For
this reason, I'm still methodically and doggedly pursuing the
indisputable part. I'm still trying to find new ways and means to
deliver the same brief but pungent message:

A secretive group is significantly altering the Earth's atmosphere,
through the continuing application of toxic chemicals, and lying about
it to the nth degree.


Comment
From Nick Balaskas
12-2-3

Hi Jeff!

What catastrophe? After all these decades there is not a single
documented case of harm to humans or damage to the environment caused
by these "chemtrails". This cannot be said about the air pollution
from automobiles and industries which has killed millions and
continues to poison our water and taint our food. Chemtrails are just
a fake threat or paper tiger we have created that is being promoted by
those who wish to distract us from the real "tigers" out there that
are slowing but surely devouring us all.

Diane gives us her opinion why she feels chemtrails are a real threat
but she fails to provide anything, other than speculation and fear
mongering, to convince people like me - but she is sincere and honest
to conclude that "...we still don't know exactly what chemtrails
are...". Actually, we do know what chemtrails are. They are simply
water vapor contrails produced by jets and misidentifed wispy clouds
that form and are seen at the same time as these "chemtrails".

By promoting chemtrails which may prove to be one of the biggest
hoaxes of this century, other legitimate cries of "wolf" such as the
many important stories also found on Jeff Rense's web site will be
similarly ignored or dismissed by your thinking readers.

Nick Balaskas


From Diane Harvey

Dear Nick:

If only aerosol operations really were a hoax. I'd much prefer that
people like me were deluded rather than the alternative.
Unfortunately, we aren't.

Of course there are no documented cases of harm in relation to an
ongoing secret project of such a magnitude. There were no documented
cases of harm in relation to any other secret project in our history
either, during the time they were being conducted. On average, fifty
years goes by before the public hears of the damage done through any
form of previously clandestine experimentation. Factual data in this
regard is readily available on the internet. And a short rebuttal is
not the place to recapitulate the long sorry tale of civilian and
military secrecy in matters of experimentation. You clearly have not
looked into the background material on this matter- and I'm not
willing to do your homework for you on such a basic level of research.
If you really care about this, you will seek out the many public
records relating to the history of secret experimentation in our
nation. Arm yourself with facts, and then if you wish to debate these
issues you will have a reasonable basis for argument. The FIA has
resulted in quite a few bombshells being made available to anyone who
is interested enough to look for them. So far, you are only lodging a
perfectly ignorant and therefore perfectly meaningless complaint. "No
documented cases of harm"? That's not even a rational statement,
considering known history along these lines.

It is certainly a catastrophe for all life forms when large amounts of
known toxic chemicals are being routinely added to the air we all
breathe. You point out yourself that pollution from cars and industry
is taking a terrible toll on human beings. This is a fact. It is also
a fact that our atmosphere is being reconditioned through the
application of chemical and electromagnetic technologies. For all your
objections, it is apparent that you have never bothered to study the
voluminous background material pertaining to this very broad and
extensive topic. Patents describing techniques in which aerosols and
electromagnetism can be employed to recondition the atmosphere for
various purposes are available to anyone who looks for them. You
obviously never bothered to look at these either. DARPA's patents
alone should open your eyes to the reality of what we are observing.

The Air Force has been bragging about "owning the weather" for many
years now. Did you know that? No? Well, we did. And we read the
original patents to discover just how they intended to accomplish such
a monumental piece of work. I presume you will be deeply surprised to
hear that it is done partly through the repeated application of
aerosols in the atmosphere. And would you imagine that these aerosols
are benign organic compounds? Not unless you fancy the health benefits
of barium for breakfast, lunch and dinner: because barium is named as
the conditioning substance. I suggest you visit the left-hand side of
Clifford Carnicom's front page and scroll down until you reach the
links for "Electrolysis and Barium", "The Barium Deduction", "Eastlund
Barium Reference", "Barium Identification" and "Barium Affirmed". Read
his work on this aspect very carefully. If you are an honest broker of
information, you will find his carefully conducted research and
ensuing conclusions quite difficult to dismiss out of hand.

Then there is the patent for a global sunscreen developed by Dr.
Teller. One version of this requires the addition of aluminum
particulates in large quantities to the atmosphere in order to
counteract global warming. Do you honestly suppose that the inventor
of the H-bomb is a crank and perpetrating hoaxes? His patents are
hardly the stuff of science fiction or mere feverish imagination. They
not only exist, but can be implemented through existing technology.
And there is a fair likelihood that part of what we are observing may
well be related to Teller's idea for an aerosol sunscreen.

Next, consider the reality that over-the-horizon radar has long been
under active development by the military. Coincidentally, these
patents too require the reconditioning of the atmosphere with various
repeated and sustained toxic aerosol applications, including our
little friend barium again. Are you getting the picture yet? We are,
sorry to tell you, not making this stuff up. Indeed, there is such
intense development of the so-called "High Ground" of our atmosphere
and near space environments underway, that we can barely keep up with
data released into the public domain. And surely you don't imagine
that we are being told "everything"?

I haven't even mentioned HAARP yet. So many programs, so little time.
Again, if you will be so kind as to educate yourself, you will
discover that electromagnetic pulse weaponry is in advanced stages of
implementation. The latest forms of electromagnetic pulse and laser
technology require a combination of electromagnetic and chemical
reconditioning of the atmosphere in order to work at all: it's what
they do, by definition. These new weapons are certainly no secret.
Read the encyclopedia's worth of hard documentation gathered by Dr.
Nick Begich in his work on HAARP. He's not making anything up either.

As for your confusion and inability to distinguish between contrails
and chemtrails, one can only smile. You already stated you know for
certain that there isn't any such thing. It is a well-known
psychological truism that people will fail to observe what they
already "know for sure" is not there. Yet depending on where one
lives, even a child could distinguish between these phenomena. With
patience, and provided there is no predetermined agenda overriding the
perceptual faculties, you too can learn to tell the difference. If you
really don't want to know, then of course no one and nothing will ever
allow you to see the obvious. But the differences in physical behavior
between contrails and chemtrails is unmistakable in many parts of the
country. In fact, it is so noticeable here in the arid southwest that
it's hard to imagine anyone missing it. It's true that those who live
in locations of continuous high humidity, near busy airports, will
have a harder time of it. The atmosphere as a whole is certainly
suffering from serious air pollution due to ever-increasing amounts of
normal air traffic, as I'm sure you know.

Nevertheless, distinct aerosol operations are also underway, without
the slightest doubt. Personally, I respect healthy skepticism, and
consider myself a reasonable exponent of that very attitude. I don't
believe what people tell me: I find out for myself. I'm a rigorous
(some would say relentless) critic of anything I consider to be
unsubstantiated chemtrail theory. Even my most respected friends in
this work aren't safe from my tendency to argue against anything I
think smacks of wild speculation. For this very reason, I find your
particular complaints to be of extremely poor quality. You haven't
researched anything at all, in the very area you vociferously deny
even exists. Your arguments are therefore founded on intellectually
vacant grounds. You are speaking from emotional conviction rather than
even remotely informed opinion. This is always a mistake. Don't you
have any respect for the long hard years of tedious research so many
of us have devoted ourselves to, at our own expense? No? Ah, but you
should. You didn't know about our preceding years of research into
patents, and the volumes of hard data accumulated by so many in regard
to these issues? Why not? If you are going to make public statements
insisting that something cannot possibly exist, you at least ought to
have browsed through the hard research supporting such claims.

As for your accusation that I am "fear mongering", again I have to
smile. Who provides the best nourishment for the growth of fear: those
who make the effort to bring secrets to light, or those who hide their
eyes and refuse to look? Is abject ignorance a useful antidote to
fear, or is the search for knowledge a preferable remedy? Is our
security in life best assured by resolute belief in comforting
illusions? Or is a better form of security found by dealing with
things as they really are? Naturally, each of us is free to choose for
ourselves. Your own passionate beliefs, unsupported by any research
into the very thing you protest, indicate an adamant unconscious
desire to remain undisturbed at all costs. You can surely see by now
that your attitudes are not based on any sort of actual information
whatsoever. What's left is merely your desire that reality should be a
certain way, whether it is or not. I can sympathize with you much more
than you would believe possible, but I also know that illusion is a
feeble bulwark. The readily available facts blow such comforting
ignorance as yours to smithereens. I suggest that the reason you have
not done any research at all is because at some level, however
unconscious, you must suspect it might prove fatal to your emotional
comfort. There is no other logical reason I can think of to explain
your peculiar lack of all background information. Why would you
entirely avoid all pertinent information about something you care
enough to yell loudly about in public? But anyone can change. Anyone
is free to look into this topic as an intellectual challenge, and
study it sufficiently and long enough to form a real opinion. The
choices are to delve down into it, or to refrain from exposing oneself
as an ignoramus. Because it is just plain silly to make a lot of noise
in public about something one never even investigated at the level of
original scientific and military research.

You and anyone else who really wants to find out the truth for
themselves can follow the basic steps offered in the following
article, "Chemtrails: Prove-It-Yourself" :
http://www.rense.com/general11/chemtrailproveit.htm This is far from
perfect, but at least it's a beginning for anyone who actually wants
to know whether or not chemtrails actually exist. The problem is, as
we see, most people vastly prefer their preconceived and entirely
unsupported opinions, and do not in fact really want to know.

Diane


"Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one,some bigger than others"
.

User: "The CO"

Title: Re: The Continuing Catastrophe 21 Mar 2005 09:35:33 AM
wrote:


The Continuing Catastrophe
Called Chemtrails
By Diane Harvey

<drivelectomy>
Interesting that none of these kook sites ever provide evidence, they
just keep repeating the mantra that 'it's fact' or 'everyone knows' or
similar throwaway lines.
Oh and rense.com is one of the kookiest kook sites on the net.
Keep frothing kookboi....
The CO
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The Continuing Catastrophe 22 Mar 2005 04:21:26 PM
There may be something in it, after all a plane of the size of the B737
takes what 30,000 litres in fuel now these vapour trails of
condensation trails with the burned fuel do leave a cloud like trail
and the frequency of flights one a minute adds to this, because of the
high altitude and this dimming which has to some extent hidden the
effects of global warming, now whether those chaps in the "black
helicopters" are spraying toxins is of X File genre.... good yarn, but
most likely far from reality.
But I suppose it helps if you are paranoid.
LB
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