I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
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28 Jun 2004 06:34:56 PM |
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"John Holmes" <*****@bush.now> wrote in message news:<1088370250.287537@gurney>...
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
I think you are jumping at shadows, a mob of builders who have a
society of secrets, sure they are a guild, but really what power do
they have, how many divisions to paraphrase Stalin?
LB
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30 Jun 2004 08:57:25 AM |
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Money=Power and vice verse.
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"John Holmes" <*****@bush.now> wrote in message
news:<1088370250.287537@gurney>...
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful
and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that
have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according
to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or
christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the
religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott
Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties.
Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they
have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by
other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where
just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce
and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have
oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is
valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
I think you are jumping at shadows, a mob of builders who have a
society of secrets, sure they are a guild, but really what power do
they have, how many divisions to paraphrase Stalin?
LB
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| User: "Su Zanne" |
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30 Jun 2004 10:35:39 PM |
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Are you talking about the Masons and the Shriners? Scottish rites and
all that?
If so, you had me confused because one of my grandfathers was in that
and the thing I remember most about them was they were always raising
money for charities, volunteering and building hospitals for burned or
crippled children.
Funny hats with tassles (fez)
Them "Masons"?
Nah! You're not......are YOU?
SuZanne
http://www.phmainstreet.com/flmason/fm030401.jpg
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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01 Jul 2004 08:20:53 PM |
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(Su Zanne) wrote in message news:<445-40E3868B-56@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
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Yes Sue, Free-Masonry is a very old society. It has rather a lot of
odd rituals. Men wearing strange clothes and prancing around.
They work for the community, but there is a more sinister side.
For example, I know a number of Police Officers who are Masons. The Uk
is considering legislation to prevent certain people from
joining...although I doubt that will be met with much sucess.
A fundamental precept of free-masonry, is that one member will always
help, always favour, another member. There are a variety of signals;
from an odd handshake, to certain sentences, that allows members to
recognise each other.
You may only join on 'recomendation,' and voting after examination as
to your suitability is essential. Then there is a very strange
initiation ceremony involving aprons and incantation.
Their existance is mainly to help one-another. They consist of
powerful men.
Silly rituals apart, free-masonry is not a good thing. It allows the
guilty exemption from prosecution, and favours unfairly everything it
touches. Secrecy...even from immediate family...is part of the
business.
Few people care for nepotism. This is nepotism on a global scale. They
are not so harmless as they would appear.
Ricky
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| User: "Su Zanne" |
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01 Jul 2004 10:49:12 PM |
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Ricky, I have been to a few of those strange ceremonies. They don't get
any stranger......I thought I would bust out laughing at one I attended
for the womens Grand Worthy Matron installment.....or something like
that!
Old ladies in long dresses...one standing at East, West, North and South
and calling themselves Ruth and Naomi, etc...totally hilarious!
It was quite a few years back. They are all dead now and took all the
"secrets" with them, I suppose. ;)
SuZanne
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| User: "Cuan" |
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30 Jun 2004 02:29:15 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
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| User: "Jane" |
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30 Jun 2004 05:38:56 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
C'mon! My husband is a Mason! I think it's somewhat silly to belong
to a fraternal organization, but he certainly does not "control"
anyone! Sheesh!
Jane
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01 Jul 2004 03:43:18 AM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a8a04f01.0406301438.fa9a09c@posting.google.com...
C'mon! My husband is a Mason! I think it's somewhat silly to belong
to a fraternal organization, but he certainly does not "control"
anyone! Sheesh!
Are you sure he didn't control your post? ;0)
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krib
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01 Jul 2004 07:23:13 AM |
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On 30 Jun 2004 15:38:56 -0700, (Jane) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
C'mon! My husband is a Mason! I think it's somewhat silly to belong
to a fraternal organization, but he certainly does not "control"
anyone! Sheesh!
Jane
At the lower degrees, certain things are still very unclear...
Let's shed a bit more "illumination" on the subject, shall we?
Excerpts from http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/masonry.htm
(I know it's a Biblical site, but these are quotes from Masons)
"So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets and intentionally leads
conceited interpreters astray . . . If you have been disappointed in
the first three degrees, as you have received them . . . remember that
.. . . symbols were used, not to reveal but to conceal . . . The
symbols and ceremonies of Masonry have more than one meaning. They
rather conceal than disclose the Truth" (Albert Pike, Morals and
Dogma,pp. 105-106; 148).
James G. Martin, a 33rd Degree Mason, who as Governor of North
Carolina and a leading Republican Party big-wig, has warmly praised
President's Bush's plans for a "New World Order." Writing in Raleigh's
daily newspaper, The News and Observer (March 24, 1991), Martin
stated: "President George Bush . . . has revitalized an old but timely
idea; the realization of a New World Order." Martin noted that this
was the same visionary idea as depicted on our U.S. one-dollar bill,
the all-seeing eye above the pyramid with the Latin inscription below
of Novus Ordo Seclorum. This, Martin explained, is interpreted as
either "A New World Order of the Age," a "New Secular (or worldly)
Order" or simply a "New World Order." Unfortunately, in his article
Governor Martin failed to tell readers these significant facts: That
the pyramid and its all-seeing eye was first printed on the U.S.
dollar bill in the 1930s at the insistence of the Jewish President
Franklin D. Roosevelt, a Mason, and his vice-president, Henry Wallace.
Wallace, a fellow Mason as well as an ardent communist-Illuminist,
later ran for president as a Socialist (Texx Marrs, Flashpoint,
April/May, 1991).
Former President Bush spoke before the United Nations on October 1,
1990, where he confirmed his support of World Government by the year
2000 A.D. "We (members of the U.N.) must join together in a New
Compact, all of us, to bring the United Nations into the 21st century
.. . . The calendar offers up a convenient milestone, a signpost by
which to measure our progress as a community of nations. The year 2000
marks a turning point, beginning the turn of the millennium . . . The
United Nations can help bring about a New Day . . . to press forward
To Cap an Historic Movement towards 'A New World Order'" (The New York
Times, October 2, 1990, A-6)
===
Excerpts from http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm
“There exists in the world today, and has existed for thousands of
years, a body of enlightened humans united in what might be termed, an
Order of the Quest. It is composed of those whose intellectual and
spiritual perceptions have revealed to them that civilization has
secret destiny . . .
The outcome of this 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King
with supernatural powers.
This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the
Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then
belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings.” - Manly P. Hall
33° Mason, The Secret Destiny of America
“[...] In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial
capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a
world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate
the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a
whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the
central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements
arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of
the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle,
Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds'
central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth
of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world
economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of
financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.” -
Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased),
in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, p.324
"We are going to end up with world government. It's inevitable ...
There's going to be conflict, coercion and consensus. That's all part
of what will be required as we give birth to the first global
civilization." - James Garrison, president, Gorbachev Foundation USA;
quoted in The Daily Record, Dunn, NC, p.4 10/17/95
"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter
to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."
- President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,
February 1, 1992
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the
most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson)
signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be
legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by
this banking and currency Bill." - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which
like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and
nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally
referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our
government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a
self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers...
legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency
created for the public protection." - John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York
1918-1925
"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This
enables it to sway the emotions of the masses." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Jane" |
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01 Jul 2004 01:55:40 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<cer7e0dps9jt5b1ag3hgnr1v1e1oroec6q@4ax.com>...
On 30 Jun 2004 15:38:56 -0700, (Jane) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
C'mon! My husband is a Mason! I think it's somewhat silly to belong
to a fraternal organization, but he certainly does not "control"
anyone! Sheesh!
Jane
At the lower degrees, certain things are still very unclear...
Let's shed a bit more "illumination" on the subject, shall we?
Excerpts from http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/masonry.htm
(I know it's a Biblical site, but these are quotes from Masons)
"So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets and intentionally leads
conceited interpreters astray . . . If you have been disappointed in
the first three degrees, as you have received them . . . remember that
. . . symbols were used, not to reveal but to conceal . . . The
symbols and ceremonies of Masonry have more than one meaning. They
rather conceal than disclose the Truth" (Albert Pike, Morals and
Dogma,pp. 105-106; 148).
James G. Martin, a 33rd Degree Mason, who as Governor of North
Carolina and a leading Republican Party big-wig, has warmly praised
President's Bush's plans for a "New World Order." Writing in Raleigh's
daily newspaper, The News and Observer (March 24, 1991), Martin
stated: "President George Bush . . . has revitalized an old but timely
idea; the realization of a New World Order." Martin noted that this
was the same visionary idea as depicted on our U.S. one-dollar bill,
the all-seeing eye above the pyramid with the Latin inscription below
of Novus Ordo Seclorum. This, Martin explained, is interpreted as
either "A New World Order of the Age," a "New Secular (or worldly)
Order" or simply a "New World Order." Unfortunately, in his article
Governor Martin failed to tell readers these significant facts: That
the pyramid and its all-seeing eye was first printed on the U.S.
dollar bill in the 1930s at the insistence of the Jewish President
Franklin D. Roosevelt, a Mason, and his vice-president, Henry Wallace.
Wallace, a fellow Mason as well as an ardent communist-Illuminist,
later ran for president as a Socialist (Texx Marrs, Flashpoint,
April/May, 1991).
Former President Bush spoke before the United Nations on October 1,
1990, where he confirmed his support of World Government by the year
2000 A.D. "We (members of the U.N.) must join together in a New
Compact, all of us, to bring the United Nations into the 21st century
. . . The calendar offers up a convenient milestone, a signpost by
which to measure our progress as a community of nations. The year 2000
marks a turning point, beginning the turn of the millennium . . . The
United Nations can help bring about a New Day . . . to press forward
To Cap an Historic Movement towards 'A New World Order'" (The New York
Times, October 2, 1990, A-6)
===
Excerpts from http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm
?There exists in the world today, and has existed for thousands of
years, a body of enlightened humans united in what might be termed, an
Order of the Quest. It is composed of those whose intellectual and
spiritual perceptions have revealed to them that civilization has
secret destiny . . .
The outcome of this 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King
with supernatural powers.
This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the
Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then
belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings.? - Manly P. Hall
33° Mason, The Secret Destiny of America
?[...] In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial
capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a
world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate
the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a
whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the
central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements
arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of
the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle,
Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds'
central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth
of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world
economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of
financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.? -
Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased),
in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, p.324
"We are going to end up with world government. It's inevitable ...
There's going to be conflict, coercion and consensus. That's all part
of what will be required as we give birth to the first global
civilization." - James Garrison, president, Gorbachev Foundation USA;
quoted in The Daily Record, Dunn, NC, p.4 10/17/95
"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter
to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."
- President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N.,
February 1, 1992
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the
most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson)
signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be
legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by
this banking and currency Bill." - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which
like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and
nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally
referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our
government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a
self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers...
legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency
created for the public protection." - John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York
1918-1925
"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This
enables it to sway the emotions of the masses." - Albert Einstein
Given the sources (conspiracyarchive.com...are you serious???), I'll
take all that with a grain of salt. I've read most of these
conspiracy theories before.
Jane
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| User: "Cuan" |
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02 Jul 2004 06:51:31 AM |
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On 1 Jul 2004 11:55:40 -0700, (Jane) wrote:
Given the sources (conspiracyarchive.com...are you serious???), I'll
take all that with a grain of salt. I've read most of these
conspiracy theories before.
Jane
Take it how you like. Add some sugar if it makes it taste better.
Where would you like me to find this material? On WorldNet Daily?
New York Times? You understand what the words "conspiracy" and
"theory" mean, don't you?
Nevertheless, the sources are real. Unless you think Albert Einstein
and George Bush Snr. were Disney characters. What you're having
difficulty with is the platform upon which these sources are being
quoted. I'm sure these quotes could be found in other books or even
on other non-conspiracy sites. They just wouldn't get the same
attention there as they would on a site dedicated to them.
make sense to you?
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| User: "sonya" |
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30 Jun 2004 10:06:11 AM |
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My brother has some friends who are Masons... Once a month they go out
on 'retreat' (I can't remember their name for it) and live as if they
were in the 1800s... kind of like a LARP or SCA, but for a long
weekend. Anyways, they told my brother that this was a Mason Outreach
program; a way for them to get new members. He says that his friend
Jay is their tailor, that his dad is a real blacksmith and that
everyone else in their small village has some sort of necessary
survival skill.
So I wonder then... if the Masons are a part of the NWO; and the NWO
is bringing about WWIII... would this 'Outreach' program simply be a
training ground for Masons to teach their own how to survuve whenever
the nukes hit the fan?
Sonya
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
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| User: "John Holmes" |
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30 Jun 2004 12:08:44 PM |
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It is to get them socialize with each other, to cooperate and know each
other. When they are making decisions in politics and business later they
will help each other. Act in a way they think is best for the masons. For
instance, if a free mason want a loan, he just have to apply in a bank where
there are another mason working as a chief, and he will get a higher loan or
lower interest rate than other people would.
"sonya" <tandym@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7bf6888e.0406300706.16acb3dc@posting.google.com...
My brother has some friends who are Masons... Once a month they go out
on 'retreat' (I can't remember their name for it) and live as if they
were in the 1800s... kind of like a LARP or SCA, but for a long
weekend. Anyways, they told my brother that this was a Mason Outreach
program; a way for them to get new members. He says that his friend
Jay is their tailor, that his dad is a real blacksmith and that
everyone else in their small village has some sort of necessary
survival skill.
So I wonder then... if the Masons are a part of the NWO; and the NWO
is bringing about WWIII... would this 'Outreach' program simply be a
training ground for Masons to teach their own how to survuve whenever
the nukes hit the fan?
Sonya
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich,
powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that
have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according
to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or
christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the
religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a
rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott
Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties.
Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they
have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by
other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they
will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market.
The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where
just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce
and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have
oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is
valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: The free masons |
01 Jul 2004 08:19:16 AM |
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On 30 Jun 2004 08:06:11 -0700, (sonya) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<vhq4e0drm17gf498mnimp6ui8k8is0s0lf@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:04:16 +0200, "John Holmes" <*****@bush.now>
wrote:
I think the free masons are anthichrist. Most members are rich, powerful and
influental people in Europe and USA. It's secret organisation(s) that have
been for centuries at least. They think Lucifer is the light, according to
some secret grade systems. They say they are religious jews or christians,
some may think they are too, but they are just infiltrating the religions.
Using the power and social status they get from the church.
The bible says it is very difficult to get into heaven if you are a rich
person, I don't wonder why if the free masons are anthichrist and
controlling a big part of the economy of the world.
The Bush family and other american presidents are free masons. Prescott Bush
was in head of a bank which laundered money for Hitler in the thirties. Bush
family's business wanted to have oil pipelines in Afghanistan and they have
been doing business with the Bin Laden family.
Bush jr is a free mason, but he may also be used as a marionette by other
free masons.
They want a United Europe, "free trade" and one currency which they will
benefit from.
They started the war on Iraq war to get the oil free for the market. The
invasion of Kuwait, the WMD violation and the terrorist attacks where just
excuses to invade them and replace the government to some more commerce and
western oriented. As was the invasion of Afghanistan. They want to have oil
pipelines as I said in Afghanistan, and I think the opium/heroin is valuable
too.
I have read and seen so much of this. If the free masons are not the
anthichrist themselves I am sure they will help him if he shows up.
Tony and Jean would tell you that the US has handed sovereignty over
to the interum Iraqi gov't and therefore has no control of Iraqi oil
any more. Have you seen, though, how Iraq is to pay off the lion's
share of its 'war debts'? With oil revenue, of course. IOW, the US
would stand in line to receive as much oil as it likes, until such
time as that (rather large) debt is repayed. Clever hey? The war was
a good investment.
This is how the masons/illuminati/octopus/skull & bones etc. etc.
control people - through debt and subversion. Look at Tony and Jean -
they've already been swallowed. It's too late for them.
My brother has some friends who are Masons... Once a month they go out
on 'retreat' (I can't remember their name for it) and live as if they
were in the 1800s... kind of like a LARP or SCA, but for a long
weekend. Anyways, they told my brother that this was a Mason Outreach
program; a way for them to get new members. He says that his friend
Jay is their tailor, that his dad is a real blacksmith and that
everyone else in their small village has some sort of necessary
survival skill.
So I wonder then... if the Masons are a part of the NWO; and the NWO
is bringing about WWIII... would this 'Outreach' program simply be a
training ground for Masons to teach their own how to survuve whenever
the nukes hit the fan?
No. The lower degree Masons are still rather oblivious to the motives
of the higher echelons. Plebians, I suppose you could call them. The
Masons look after their own, for as it is their belief that they will
inherit the Earth. The further degrees one traverses, so the
ceremonies and symbols change. It is a path to enlightenment. The
Illuminati is at the top of the food-chain, so to speak.
Remember that the NWO envisages a population reduction on the planet
to a factor of 1/3 of the present. A nuclear war, pestilence (AIDS
etc.), famine, drought etc. are merely a means of achieving this end.
The smaller the population, the easier it is to manage. The United
Nations is the NWO government which is slowly developing. Bush's
defiance of that government was not without purpose. It simply serves
to show the US elect that the US cannot function outside the bounds of
the UN again, causing the US citizenship to be more receptive of UN
control in the future. At present, the US citizens (with the
exception of some) are dismayed that their leader has abused their
trust and the powers entrusted to him. I believe this is the desired
effect, as masochistic as it may seem.
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