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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "John Lemke"
Date: 16 Jul 2007 07:29:52 PM
Object: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner
Looks like the conservatives are railing about "surrender" now too.
They're just catching up with we "fringe leftists" and our longterm
concern about Bush's mental state. Just goes to show we've been right
all along and keep getting "righter".
Poor Stevie, soon to be out there on his own nutty little fringe all
by himself.
Scaife-Owned Newspaper Calls for Iraq Troop Withdrawal -- Questions
Bush's 'Mental Stability'
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003612271
By E&P Staff
Published: July 16, 2007 3:29 PM ET
NEW YORK The Pittsburgh newspaper owned by conservative billionaire
Richard Mellon Scaife yesterday called the Bush administration's plans
to stay the course in Iraq a "prescription for American suicide."
The editorial in the Tribune-Review added, "And quite frankly, during
last Thursday's news conference, when George Bush started blathering
about 'sometimes the decisions you make and the consequences don't
enable you to be loved,' we had to question his mental stability."
.

User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 11:22:35 AM
On Jul 24, 4:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking skull.
Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.

Oh, I see. And what about Richard Gephardt? What did he know then?
Just in case you've forgotten, he said he did not listen to Bush for
his WMD intelligence. So, taking that into consideration, what do you
think Gephardt knew?


Nothing can truer than fiction. You've proven that by reading my
fiction and making a complete, raving ***** of yourself.


Grow up? I've been pissing on you from a great height for weeks you
ego driven freak.


Talk about ego! I'm sure it seems that way when you're hiding behind a
killfile and don't read the replies to what you falsely perceive as
"pissing from great heights" ... hilarious.


I don't see much of anyone wasting time with you anymore, Stevie. I
was simply the first to read you right. :-)


What are you talking about? You became even *more* obsessed with me
AFTER you killfiled me! You haven't stopped talking about me (and
indirectly *to* me) in all this time, right up to this very post to
which I'm now responding! .


I'm not obsessed with you, Stevie, you make me giggle.

Sure. Right. What percentage of your posts revolve around me? Sure
Johnny boy, you're not at all obsessed with me!


Hitler clung to the same core beliefs to the bitter end too. He had
an unshakable hope right up until the point he bit down on that glass
capsule and stuck that pistol in his mouth.


When you can't respond to the actual point, bring up Hitler -- it's
the favorite ploy of a weak fringe leftist like you, isn't it?


No, it's an expression of the fact that a mindless ideologue will
believe his ***** right up to the bitter end.

You mean my belief that many Democrats proclaimed Saddam was a threat
right up to the end? Is that what you're talking about?


Stick around, every group needs some sport. Even if it is shooting
fish in a barrel. I'll bet your mom's even gotten a kick out of it.


I said you'd probably like her --


Alcoholics generally make me uncomfortable.


I didn't say she'd like you. And I
can assure you, she wouldn't.


We'd have a couple of beers together and eventually we'd be fine.


Is that how things work in your life? Is that the only way women can
stand you, is to get a few beers in them?


Not at all. It's one way to break the ice with an alcoholic tho.

You have personal experience with that? You encourage alcoholics to
drink alcohol? How pathetic!


Sorry, you're out of luck.
My Mother doesn't drink beer -- maybe an occasional glass of wine, but
not enough that she'd be able to stand you.


Too bad, her loss.

She's way above your level, Johnny boy. She adores children, but (as
is the case with most women) childish behavior loses its appeal when
it's coming from an overgrown adolescent like you.


Unlike you, she actually loves and
appreciates her country -- though she is well aware of its flaws. And
though she doesn't read usenet, I can assure you she'd view being
insulted by you as the cheap tactic of a childish intellect. Grow up.


She'd appreciate how easy it was to make you betray your black little
heart and scream like a little girl.


Oh yeah, your other weak ploy -- insult someone's mother, and feel
proud of yourself. What a weak little child you are.


Are you getting passionate again, Stevie? Are you getting tired of
the same old, same old repetitive production of obvious *****?
Fiction? The same twisting and propagandizing?

Did Bill Clinton "know then" what Bush knew then? Did Bill Clinton
"know then" when he addressed the British people (on the very eve of
the war) and told them to trust Tony Blair's decision to go to war?
Did Tony Blair "know then" what Bush knew then? This isn't fiction,
Johnny boy. What did Jay Rockefeller "know then" when he called Iraq
an *imminent* threat? Please explain.


The thing you get the most passionate about is when your poor pride
gets hurt. Enraged by "obvious *****"? What's worse, Stevie?
Writing "childish trash" or completely losing your cool over
"childish trash"?

What makes you think I've lost my cool? Is that your whole purpose? To
cause me to lose my cool? Why would you want to do that? Some sort of
revenge for something? What have I ever done to you on a personal
level -- meaning your personal life? The answer is nothing, yet for
some reason you seem to get some sort of warped pleasure in directing
fictitious insults toward my mother. Very strange.


Getting bent over someone mis-spelling your alias. Sheesh.

That's another thing -- for some reason, you seem to think I announced
at some point that I use an alias. No, Johnnie boy, that was you. It
was you who said your name just might actually be the name of your
brother's uncle's father-in-law's cousin's childhood friend -- or
something to that effect.


Don't tell us you don't care about what anyone thinks. The alcohol
stories didn't start bothering you until people started believing
them. :-)

Since there was no basis for it, anyone who actually believed your
***** would have to be so lacking in intelligence that I wouldn't
really care what *they* think. I did think it was worth pointing out
to *you* that it's *wrong* to spread false rumors about anyone. But
then it's no big surprise that a stunted intellect such as yours would
be unaware of that.
And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 06:11:51 PM
On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?

I simply like to laugh, Stevie.
I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.
I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.
Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 10:00:03 PM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke <jflemke@locallink.net>
Spat the Words

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.

I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.

I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.

Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.

It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.
Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hundreds
of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters, the
Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civilians
as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters. Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep well
stevie.
.
User: "Docrodile"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 08:56:56 AM
"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net>
Spat the Words

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.

I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.

I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.

Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.

Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hundreds
of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters, the
Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civilians
as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep well
stevie.

Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie Murphys
jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 09:39:27 AM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampthing@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net>
Spat the Words

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.

I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.

I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.

Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.

Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hundreds
of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters, the
Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civilians
as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep well
stevie.

Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie Murphys
jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~

I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's not
out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks. They would change their tune in a heartbeat if they had
to actually pick up a gun and run a mile with it under fire.
Why isn't stevie in Iraq right now dying for my freedoms ?




.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 11:02:17 AM
On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words

"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hundreds
of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters, the
Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civilians
as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep well
stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie Murphys
jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's not
out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.

I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravely put
me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!
.
User: "WH"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 07:25:29 AM
On 25 Juli, 18:02, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:





After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But =

I'm

sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into h=

uge

error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hundre=

ds

of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters, t=

he

Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civilia=

ns

as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep we=

ll

stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie Mur=

phys

jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's not
out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.


I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravely put
me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!- D=F6lj citerad text -

- Visa citerad text -

During some other cowardly invasion of a third world defencless
country no doubt!
WH
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 10:07:58 AM
On Jul 26, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 25 Juli, 18:02, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:



On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:


After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. Bu=

t I'm

sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into=

huge

error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of securi=

ty

and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hund=

reds

of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that make
you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your masters,=

the

Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civil=

ians

as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sleep =

well

stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie M=

urphys

jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's not
out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.


I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravely put
me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!- D=F6lj citerad text -


- Visa citerad text -


During some other cowardly invasion of a third world defencless
country no doubt!

Do you feel that way about nations that tried to inflict Communism on
people who didn't want it? Such as North Korea's invasion of South
Korea, just for example? And no, that wasn't the war I was involved
in. I'm not quite that old, just using Korea as an example.
.
User: "WH"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 31 Jul 2007 07:25:53 AM
On 26 Juli, 17:07, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 26, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On 25 Juli, 18:02, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:


After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wro=

te:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. =

But I'm

sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of peo=

ple

that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them in=

to huge

error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people li=

ke

stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of secu=

rity

and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you=

in

my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered hu=

ndreds

of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that ma=

ke

you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your master=

s, the

Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of civ=

ilians

as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Slee=

p well

stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Audie=

Murphys

jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's n=

ot

out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.


I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravely put
me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!- D=F6lj citerad text -


- Visa citerad text -


During some other cowardly invasion of a third world defencless
country no doubt!


Do you feel that way about nations that tried to inflict Communism on
people who didn't want it? Such as North Korea's invasion of South
Korea, just for example? And no, that wasn't the war I was involved
in. I'm not quite that old, just using Korea as an example.- D=F6lj citer=

ad text -


- Visa citerad text -

I feel that about any war! That includes trying to "inflict" yankie
"democracy" on defenceless third world countries..."democracy" meaning
control of the oil.
By the way, if it wasn't Korea you were involved in then leave Korea
out of it. By referring to it instead of whatever "military"
misadventure you claim to have been involved in only confirms what I
said. It was during one other yankie cowardly invasion of a
defenceless third country!
WH
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 31 Jul 2007 10:13:44 AM
On Jul 31, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 26 Juli, 17:07, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 26, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On 25 Juli, 18:02, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:


After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> w=

rote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage=

.. But I'm

sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of p=

eople

that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them =

into huge

error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people =

like

stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of se=

curity

and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fictio=

n I

could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have y=

ou in

my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtered =

hundreds

of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's that =

make

you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your mast=

ers, the

Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of c=

ivilians

as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. Sl=

eep well

stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed Aud=

ie Murphys

jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he's=

not

out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.


I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravely =

put

me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!- D=F6lj citerad text -


- Visa citerad text -


During some other cowardly invasion of a third world defencless
country no doubt!


Do you feel that way about nations that tried to inflict Communism on
people who didn't want it? Such as North Korea's invasion of South
Korea, just for example? And no, that wasn't the war I was involved
in. I'm not quite that old, just using Korea as an example.-


- Visa citerad text -


I feel that about any war! That includes trying to "inflict" yankie
"democracy" on defenceless third world countries..."democracy" meaning
control of the oil.

There is no oil in Korea.


By the way, if it wasn't Korea you were involved in then leave Korea
out of it. By referring to it instead of whatever "military"
misadventure you claim to have been involved in only confirms what I
said. It was during one other yankie cowardly invasion of a
defenceless third country!

The war I was involved in was a similar situation to Korea. That's why
I wanted to know how you felt about Korea. Are you happy there is a
free South Korea, or would you have been happier to see it controlled
by that famous utopia, North Korea?
.
User: "WH"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 01 Aug 2007 06:55:29 AM
On 31 Juli, 17:13, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On 26 Juli, 17:07, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 26, 5:25 am, WH <boll...@hotmail.com> wrote:


On 25 Juli, 18:02, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 25, 7:39 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:


After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Docrodile"
<swampth...@hellsbayou.net> Spat the Words


"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9977D5A1F298Drrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com>=

wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garba=

ge. But I'm

sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of=

people

that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead the=

m into huge

error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about peopl=

e like

stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of =

security

and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fict=

ion I

could have made up.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have=

you in

my killfile, but did you know that US troops have slaughtere=

d hundreds

of times more Iraqis than the insurgent uprising ? How's tha=

t make

you feel buddy ? The rules of engagement dictated by your ma=

sters, the

Bush crime syndicate, indicate it's ok to kill any number of=

civilians

as long as they're engaging insurgent freedom-fighters.
Congratulations..
your people have turned US troops into Nazi Storm Troopers. =

Sleep well

stevie.


Another pleasant night for Stevie counting combat-uniformed A=

udie Murphys

jumping over a barbed-wire fence. ;))~


I'm sure it's a glorious affair for stevie.. especially when he=

's not

out there getting shot at. All these war cheer-leaders are just
chicken-hawks.


I served in the military, in time of war, in the combat zone, in a
support role. What have you done? Sit at your computer and bravel=

y put

me in your killfile? Wow, I'm impressed!- D=F6lj citerad text -


- Visa citerad text -


During some other cowardly invasion of a third world defencless
country no doubt!


Do you feel that way about nations that tried to inflict Communism on
people who didn't want it? Such as North Korea's invasion of South
Korea, just for example? And no, that wasn't the war I was involved
in. I'm not quite that old, just using Korea as an example.-


- Visa citerad text -


I feel that about any war! That includes trying to "inflict" yankie
"democracy" on defenceless third world countries..."democracy" meaning
control of the oil.


There is no oil in Korea.



By the way, if it wasn't Korea you were involved in then leave Korea
out of it. By referring to it instead of whatever "military"
misadventure you claim to have been involved in only confirms what I
said. It was during one other yankie cowardly invasion of a
defenceless third country!


The war I was involved in was a similar situation to Korea. That's why
I wanted to know how you felt about Korea. Are you happy there is a
free South Korea, or would you have been happier to see it controlled
by that famous utopia, North Korea?- D=F6lj citerad text -

- Visa citerad text -

Have to repeat myself again:
By the way, if it wasn't Korea you were involved in then leave Korea
out of it. By referring to it instead of whatever "military"
misadventure you claim to have been involved in only confirms what I
said. It was during one other yankie cowardly invasion of a
defenceless third country!
WH
.








User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 10:17:27 PM
On Jul 24, 8:00 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net>
Spat the Words

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


It's been enlightening for me as well. The truth about people like
stevie defending mass slaughter of innocents in the name of security
and self-righteous religiosity is far stranger than any fiction I
could have made up.

Why shouldn't I have believed Bill Clinton when he told the British
people (on the very eve of the war) to trust Tony Blair's decision to
go to war? Why shouldn't I have believed Tony Blair? Please explain.


Hey stevie.. I won't be able to see your reply 'cause I have you in
my killfile,

Oh, that's right -- coward. Therefore, there's no need to read
anything else you have to say, is there?
<snip>
.


User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 07:53:32 PM
On Jul 24, 4:11 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.

I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.

I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.

Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.

That's all very nice, but I notice you avoided the questions I asked.
So just in case it was an oversight on your part, here they are again:
What about Richard Gephardt? What did he know then? Just in case
you've forgotten, he said he did not listen to Bush for his WMD
intelligence. So, taking that into consideration, what do you think
Gephardt knew?
Did Bill Clinton "know then" what Bush knew then? Did Bill Clinton
"know then" when he addressed the British people (on the very eve of
the war) and told them to trust Tony Blair's decision to go to war?
Did Tony Blair "know then" what Bush knew then? This isn't fiction,
Johnny boy. What did Jay Rockefeller "know then" when he called Iraq
an *imminent* threat? Please explain.
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 06:29:24 AM
On Jul 24, 8:53 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 24, 4:11 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


That's all very nice, but I notice you avoided the questions I asked.
So just in case it was an oversight on your part, here they are again:

What about Richard Gephardt? What did he know then? Just in case
you've forgotten, he said he did not listen to Bush for his WMD
intelligence. So, taking that into consideration, what do you think
Gephardt knew?

Did Bill Clinton "know then" what Bush knew then? Did Bill Clinton
"know then" when he addressed the British people (on the very eve of
the war) and told them to trust Tony Blair's decision to go to war?
Did Tony Blair "know then" what Bush knew then? This isn't fiction,
Johnny boy. What did Jay Rockefeller "know then" when he called Iraq
an *imminent* threat? Please explain.

Ok, one last time for those with comprehension problems. We're even
more tired of your delusion than you are of fiction but we'll try it
one more time.
We've been saying for months that congressmen have been discovering
that they were lied to and misled by the Bush Administration. Just
like the 69% of Americans that originally supported the war. The
numbers approving of Mr. Bush have flipped the opposite way as well
now that the truth continues to come out.
It's over, Stevie. No amount of spinning and crying and lying and
game playing is going to change reality. You've taken up with
losers.
History's caught up with your *****. It was only a matter of time.
So enjoy the view from your bunker. It's only going to get worse.
http://www.senate.gov/~rockefeller/news/2006/2006_0908PhaseII.html
Statement on the Senate Floor on Phase II
by Vice Chairman John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV (D-WV)
September 8, 2006
<snip>
Let me share with you some important excerpts from the report which
reflect both my own views and the views of all of my Democratic
colleagues.
The Committee=s investigation into prewar intelligence on Iraq has
revealed that the Bush Administration=s case for war in Iraq was
fundamentally misleading.
Prior to the war, Administration officials repeatedly characterized
Iraq=s weapons of mass destruction programs in more conclusive and
threatening terms than were substantiated by the underlying
intelligence assessments.
Analytical judgments of the intelligence community that were not in
line with the more strident Administration view on alleged Iraqi links
to al-Qa=ida and the 9/11 plot were ignored and denigrated by senior
policymakers.
Most disturbingly, the Administration, in its zeal to promote public
opinion in the United States for toppling Saddam Hussein, pursued a
deceptive strategy prior to the war of using intelligence reporting
that the intelligence community warned was uncorroborated, unreliable,
and, in critical instances, fabricated.
The Committee has uncovered information in its investigation that
shows that the Administration ignored warnings prior to the war about
the veracity of the intelligence it trumpeted publicly to support its
case that Iraq was an imminent threat to the security of the United
States.
Some of the false information used to support the invasion of Iraq was
provided by the Iraqi National Congress (INC), an organization which
our intelligence agencies had cautioned was penetrated by hostile
intelligence services and would use its relationship with the United
States government to promote its own agenda to overthrow Saddam
Hussein.
The Committee=s investigation concluded that the INC attempted to
influence United States policy on Iraq by providing false information
through Iraqi defectors directed at convincing the United States that
Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction and had links to
terrorists.
The Committee also found the July 2002 decision by the National
Security Council directing the renewed funding of the INC contract
under Pentagon management was ill-advised given the
counterintelligence concerns of the CIA and warnings of financial
mismanagement from the Department of State.
Repeated prewar statements by Administration officials sought to
connect Iraq and al-Qa=ida in ways that the underlying intelligence
did not support.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 10:59:34 AM
On Jul 25, 4:29 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:53 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 24, 4:11 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 24, 12:22 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


And now I've wasted enough time with your continuing garbage. But I'm
sure your obsession with me will continue, won't it?


I simply like to laugh, Stevie.


I'm also fascinated by highly practiced liars. The sort of people
that attempt to manipulate others into doing great evil.


I like understanding how their personal weaknesses lead them into huge
error.


Thanks, it's been rather enlightening and a lot of fun.


That's all very nice, but I notice you avoided the questions I asked.
So just in case it was an oversight on your part, here they are again:


What about Richard Gephardt? What did he know then? Just in case
you've forgotten, he said he did not listen to Bush for his WMD
intelligence. So, taking that into consideration, what do you think
Gephardt knew?


Did Bill Clinton "know then" what Bush knew then? Did Bill Clinton
"know then" when he addressed the British people (on the very eve of
the war) and told them to trust Tony Blair's decision to go to war?
Did Tony Blair "know then" what Bush knew then? This isn't fiction,
Johnny boy. What did Jay Rockefeller "know then" when he called Iraq
an *imminent* threat? Please explain.


Ok, one last time for those with comprehension problems. We're even
more tired of your delusion than you are of fiction but we'll try it
one more time.

We've been saying for months that congressmen have been discovering
that they were lied to and misled by the Bush Administration.

I knew you'd fall back on that, even after I mentioned Gephardt just
above, who said he did NOT rely on the Bush administration for his WMD
intelligence.


Just like the 69% of Americans that originally supported the war. The
numbers approving of Mr. Bush have flipped the opposite way as well
now that the truth continues to come out.

Yes, and as I've mentioned numerous times, I'm in both of those sets
of numbers.


It's over, Stevie. No amount of spinning and crying and lying and
game playing is going to change reality. You've taken up with
losers.

I've taken up with no one, Johnny boy. What I'm trying to do is show
you *haters* that Bush had a lot of help from Democrats to get his WMD
message across. But you *haters* refuse to place ANY blame anywhere
other than Bush. You give all those Democrats a free pass. How many
times do I have to explain this? And your repeated BS that Bush
"misled" those poor dupes of a Democratic Party shows a state of
denial that can only be explained by your emotionally driven intellect
-- based entirely in your beloved *hatred* for Bush.


History's caught up with your *****. It was only a matter of time.

So enjoy the view from your bunker. It's only going to get worse.

I'm not in a bunker. I'm right here discussing this with you. And now
that you've crawled out from your own bunker (your killfile), you can
actually know my thoughts first hand instead of getting them out of
context from the bits and pieces you read in other's posts.


http://www.senate.gov/~rockefeller/news/2006/2006_0908PhaseII.html

Statement on the Senate Floor on Phase II
by Vice Chairman John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV (D-WV)

This is the height of audacity, of all time. This, coming from the
former ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who had
access to more intelligence than the average Senator. This was the guy
who called Iraq an *imminent* threat, and said (in his speech
authorizing the war) that we could NOT afford to wait for further
proof, because to WAIT for further proof could put Americans in
danger! And you're going to quote this disingenuous man to me as if
he's some sort of statesman? Incredible.
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 25 Jul 2007 04:00:48 PM
On Jul 25, 11:59 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 4:29 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

We've been saying for months that congressmen have been discovering
that they were lied to and misled by the Bush Administration.


I knew you'd fall back on that, even after I mentioned Gephardt just
above, who said he did NOT rely on the Bush administration for his WMD
intelligence.

And Gephardt said he wouldn't have gone to war over the intelligence.
Just like almost all of the Europeans didn't go to war.
Bush led the charge. He's commander in chief. It's his crew that
shaped the intelligence to make the case. His crew that used
virtually every best case scenario in forming pre and post invasion
policy, him and his crew that brought about what will become known as
the worst foreign policy debacle in US history. It's his crew that
lost both houses of Congress. It's him and his crew suffering
horribly in the polls.
I've stated before that most Democrats are gutless wonders. But none
of them forced Shrub into this obscenely incompetent performance.
It's his pooch and he screwed it royally, from top to bottom.
Rockefeller twisting his position? Does it really matter?
Rockefeller's a footnote at best. Bush will more than likely go down
in history as the worst president we've ever had. Jay and his friends
won't be doing anything to help him avoid any of that.
So rant and rave on against reality, Stevie. Bush is the big loser
here. Whiners and spinners such as yourself will have about as much
effect on current discourse and history as an Oklahoma mouse's
flatulence in a tornado.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 10:04:09 AM
On Jul 25, 2:00 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 25, 11:59 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 25, 4:29 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

We've been saying for months that congressmen have been discovering
that they were lied to and misled by the Bush Administration.


I knew you'd fall back on that, even after I mentioned Gephardt just
above, who said he did NOT rely on the Bush administration for his WMD
intelligence.


And Gephardt said he wouldn't have gone to war over the intelligence.

Yet he voted to give Bush that authorization, after conducting his own
independent investigation of the intelligence. Do you have the actual
quote for what you paraphrased just above? I'd like to see his actual
quote in context.


Just like almost all of the Europeans didn't go to war.

The UK, Spain, Italy, Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Bulgaria,
Romania, and several others were on board.


Bush led the charge. He's commander in chief. It's his crew that
shaped the intelligence to make the case. His crew that used
virtually every best case scenario in forming pre and post invasion
policy, him and his crew that brought about what will become known as
the worst foreign policy debacle in US history. It's his crew that
lost both houses of Congress. It's him and his crew suffering
horribly in the polls.

I've stated before that most Democrats are gutless wonders.

Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 04:52:00 PM
On Jul 26, 11:04 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).

I know, Stevie, it's all their fault. Bush is an addle minded,
inbred, sheltered fortunate son who couldn't have invaded Nova Scotia
without Hillary Clinton's direction.
Rockefeller cherrypicked and shaped the intelligence to suit the
policy. Chelsea Clinton, ignoring Eric Shinseki, worked out the
invasion plan sending less than half the soldiers needed to secure
Iraq. Barbara Streisand took over civil control of the country and
let all those nasty Iraqi Regular Army soldiers walk home with their
guns and no job. George Clooney packed up all the WMD, all the WMD
paperwork, all the WMD production facilities, and all those employed
in Saddam's WMD programs and scurried them to Syria right behind our
invading armies.
I'm beginning to see the light here.
Ok, Mrs. Douglas, let's crack another bottle.
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 05:58:49 PM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words

On Jul 26, 11:04 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).


I know, Stevie, it's all their fault. Bush is an addle minded,
inbred, sheltered fortunate son who couldn't have invaded Nova Scotia
without Hillary Clinton's direction.

Rockefeller cherrypicked and shaped the intelligence to suit the
policy. Chelsea Clinton, ignoring Eric Shinseki, worked out the
invasion plan sending less than half the soldiers needed to secure
Iraq. Barbara Streisand took over civil control of the country and
let all those nasty Iraqi Regular Army soldiers walk home with their
guns and no job. George Clooney packed up all the WMD, all the WMD
paperwork, all the WMD production facilities, and all those employed
in Saddam's WMD programs and scurried them to Syria right behind our
invading armies.

I'm beginning to see the light here.

Now you're getting it John. Those *evil* democratic congressmen forced
poor georgie to prepare all those plans and invade Iraq. Poor george
never really had a choice in the matter.
... and now that we're there and we know it was the wrong thing to do,
stevie wants to stay.. indefinitely. Something is wrong with this picture.


Ok, Mrs. Douglas, let's crack another bottle.

I get a shot at her after you're done. She's not much of a talker,
but she gives great shutzpa.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 07:37:22 PM
On Jul 26, 3:58 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words



On Jul 26, 11:04 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).


I know, Stevie, it's all their fault. Bush is an addle minded,
inbred, sheltered fortunate son who couldn't have invaded Nova Scotia
without Hillary Clinton's direction.


Rockefeller cherrypicked and shaped the intelligence to suit the
policy. Chelsea Clinton, ignoring Eric Shinseki, worked out the
invasion plan sending less than half the soldiers needed to secure
Iraq. Barbara Streisand took over civil control of the country and
let all those nasty Iraqi Regular Army soldiers walk home with their
guns and no job. George Clooney packed up all the WMD, all the WMD
paperwork, all the WMD production facilities, and all those employed
in Saddam's WMD programs and scurried them to Syria right behind our
invading armies.


I'm beginning to see the light here.


Now you're getting it John. Those *evil* democratic congressmen forced
poor georgie to prepare all those plans and invade Iraq. Poor george
never really had a choice in the matter.

.. and now that we're there and we know it was the wrong thing to do,
stevie wants to stay.. indefinitely. Something is wrong with this picture.



Ok, Mrs. Douglas, let's crack another bottle.


I get a shot at her after you're done. She's not much of a talker,
but she gives great shutzpa.

Between you and Lemke, which one are you -- Beavis or Butthead?
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 08:37:17 PM
On Jul 26, 8:37 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

Between you and Lemke, which one are you -- Beavis or Butthead?

I wouldn't be able to tell, Josef, I'm not one to spend a lot of time
watching cartoons.
.


User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 08:31:30 PM
On Jul 26, 6:58 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jfle...@locallink.net> Spat the Words

I'm beginning to see the light here.


Now you're getting it John. Those *evil* democratic congressmen forced
poor georgie to prepare all those plans and invade Iraq. Poor george
never really had a choice in the matter.

Cee, us dum ol lefties can lurn if we jes lissen to wats "right" ovur
an ovur agin.

.. and now that we're there and we know it was the wrong thing to do,
stevie wants to stay.. indefinitely. Something is wrong with this picture.

Hey, blame all that on Joe Lieberman and his semi-firm support of our
wonderful president.

Ok, Mrs. Douglas, let's crack another bottle.


I get a shot at her after you're done. She's not much of a talker,
but she gives great shutzpa.

She'd definitely like you, Randy. You killfiled her son.
.


User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 07:36:31 PM
On Jul 26, 2:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 26, 11:04 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).


I know, Stevie, it's all their fault.

No, it's partly their fault. But you want them to have absolutely NO
fault. I think it's quite odd that you blame me more than you blame
them. You hate me, while giving people who actually had a vote in the
matter a free pass. Amazing.
.
User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 26 Jul 2007 08:22:15 PM
On Jul 26, 8:36 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 26, 2:52 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 26, 11:04 am, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


Yet you just tried to cover for Gephardt once again. You quoted Jay
Rockefeller as if he's someone to be admired and respected, when he's
actually the guy who said we could not afford to wait for further
proof. Without all those Democrats backing him, and without all those
Europeans backing him, Bush would have had a very difficult time
conducting that invasion all by himself ("all by himself" being the
false spin lefties have tried to sell all these years).


I know, Stevie, it's all their fault.


No, it's partly their fault. But you want them to have absolutely NO
fault. I think it's quite odd that you blame me more than you blame
them. You hate me, while giving people who actually had a vote in the
matter a free pass. Amazing.

And I thought if I blamed Democrats for some of Bush's countless
failures you'd at least allow a couple of those failures to live on
into the archive.
You maniacally obsessive little snipper, you!!!!!!!!!!!!
.










User: "eric"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 12:39:17 PM
On Jul 24, 7:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking skull.
Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.

Puhlease, John....
Stevie always knew. Always. He's a lying sack of *****...just like
Coulter, O'Reilly, et all. They pretend they didn't know, and some
still pretend they don't know. Time to call a Spade, a Spade.
Stevie, and all his friends are simply evil, lying shits.
.
User: "Docrodile"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 04:27:41 PM
"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185298757.540357.290260@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 24, 7:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking
skull.
Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If
it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if
I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.

Puhlease, John....


Stevie always knew. Always. He's a lying sack of *****...just like
Coulter, O'Reilly, et all. They pretend they didn't know, and some
still pretend they don't know. Time to call a Spade, a Spade.
Stevie, and all his friends are simply evil, lying shits.

What can you say about a sap who sides with the seamy likes of a JTEM
critter? Poor judgement, desperation. I can remember the days when Stevie
would side with dreamwanker and Guernon or Mikey...he has no taste!
Just raw ego and survival slickery that gets so slippery he slides on his
own snot.
Winning isn't just a goal for Stevie, it's the Golden Calf.



.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 07:51:36 PM
On Jul 24, 2:27 pm, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:

"eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1185298757.540357.290260@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 24, 7:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking
skull.
Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If
it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if
I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.


Puhlease, John....


Stevie always knew. Always. He's a lying sack of *****...just like
Coulter, O'Reilly, et all. They pretend they didn't know, and some
still pretend they don't know. Time to call a Spade, a Spade.
Stevie, and all his friends are simply evil, lying shits.


What can you say about a sap who sides with the seamy likes of a JTEM

You expect me to side with you? Why? All you do is aim extended
personal attacks in my direction. As I mentioned previously, JTEM
actually debates topics, without the personal attacks. Why wouldn't I
side with him over you every day of the week?
.


User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 01:13:20 PM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, eric <ericdavis500@gmail.com>
Spat the Words

On Jul 24, 7:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking

skull.

Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.

Puhlease, John....


Stevie always knew. Always. He's a lying sack of *****...just like
Coulter, O'Reilly, et all. They pretend they didn't know, and some
still pretend they don't know. Time to call a Spade, a Spade.
Stevie, and all his friends are simply evil, lying shits.

What he knew and when he knew it is open to speculation. I think
stevie generally follows first and asks questions later. He's just
a tool (did I say fool ?)
.
User: "eric"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 03:57:36 PM
On Jul 24, 2:13 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, eric <ericdavis...@gmail.com>
Spat the Words





On Jul 24, 7:55 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

On Jul 19, 11:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 5:32 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:38 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 4:33 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:

You've finally gotten the context thru your thick freaking

skull.

Something this band of fringies understood from the beginning.


Uh, what "context" have I "finally" gotten?


There I go, overestimating you again.


Really? Why don't you just explain what you're mumbling about? If it's
about the Iraq war, I've been saying for about two years now that if I
knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have supported the invasion.


That's the problem, Stevie, Bush knew then what you "know" now.


Puhlease, John....


Stevie always knew. Always. He's a lying sack of *****...just like
Coulter, O'Reilly, et all. They pretend they didn't know, and some
still pretend they don't know. Time to call a Spade, a Spade.
Stevie, and all his friends are simply evil, lying shits.


What he knew and when he knew it is open to speculation. I think
stevie generally follows first and asks questions later. He's just
a tool (did I say fool ?)

But even Stevie can't be that stoopid. Is he Stoopid? Yes. But he's
one of the worst liars here...he lies to himself constantly.
.

User: "John Lemke"

Title: Re: The neocon ice keeps getting thinner 24 Jul 2007 05:59:40 PM
On Jul 24, 2:13 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:

What he knew and when he knew it is open to speculation. I think
stevie generally follows first and asks questions later. He's just
a tool (did I say fool ?)

Tool. Incapable of independent thought. He's made for manipulation
by people greater than himself so much so that it's easy for "lefties"
to manipulate him.
Really fascinating for us to see into his dark little core. And by,
example, into the core of the black Bushite machine. Even into the
heart of our own imperial impulses.
No empathy for the people whose lives we've destroyed in Iraq. This
idea that we're entitled to overthrow their government, control their
oil, impose "democracy" as if we're spiritually and culturally
superior. The WMD/regional threat issues were clear scams.
No real respect for the truth. No real respect for the American
people (cattle) whom they've constantly lied to to support this
incomprehensible incompetence with our blood and money. We're the
ones that need to be made frightened and angry and sent to remake
entire regions.
Contrast that to the personal offense taken at what he clearly
initially identified as *****. At first it's no big deal. Then
people start believing it and the boy goes bonkers. Thanks for the
help.
It's infantile. Advocating and defending blood and destruction on a
mass scale then becoming horrifically and righteously indignant over a
clearly fictional scenario that personally offends him.
Stevie's clearly one of the cows. All I had to do was start repeating
the same ***** over and over again and he beg