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shastaman@my-deja.com (Anon Ymous) wrote in message

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Geez, dw, didnt expect that from you. Did I hit a nerve?

Clinton was a neo-con, then!

S~

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=3D=3D=3D=3D

And there I was, waiting for a response to that question. I keep =

seeing it too Shast...but it's unknown on this side of the =

It must be important..simply through it's popular usage...but I =

have no concept of it's meaning.

I've just opened this groups messages and saw a reply made to =

question. Now, thought Rick, now I will understand this probably
political term.

I presume I am right in believing that the word, 'Neocon', =

fact mean, 'Go ***** yourself?' I hope that's so...otherwise I =

have to re-assess an awful lot of posts made here!
Was Dreamy being helpful in supplying the definition? Or was he
exhibiting symptoms often found in ignorant, uneducated and
loud-mouthed youths?

;)

Well, one has to smile...I suppose it's too be expected really. =

originated from climbing from an original pool of slime. It =

that some people chose to remain there.

Ricky

Werewolf:

Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot: traditional Conservatives
George Bush, ***** Cheney: Neo-Conservatives.

Difference? Traditional conservatives believe in an "America for
Americans" policies, the Monroe Doctrine. They are AGAINST free =

against immigration, against America meddling in foreign problems =

as

policing the world. They are FOR low taxes, minimum government

intrusion,

individual rights and individual freedom. Neo-Conservatives OTOH

believe

in the "World for Americans" policies. They are globalists, big
multinational corporations, the "elites" of the world. They =

free

trade, unhindered access to world markets, one world economic and

financial

system to be controlled by America, of course, "New World Order",

"Project

for an American Century", Empire.

The Neo-cons may not necessarily be Conservatives. Tony Blair is =

Liberal

but also a neo-con. The Europeans saw American world domination

developing

and created the EU, their own free trade economic and financial =

counter American domination. Unfortunately, the EU has no =

might

unless they let Russia in, which NATO will never allow, so it will =

absorbed by the New World Order, despite the efforts of Germany =

France.

Neocon =3D New Rome

cesar

Well thanks for a thought out reply. Not many of those in a.p.n.

Yet, C. if some of the Neo-con applies than Bill Clinton
administration is, were, and was more Neo-con than Bush.

1999 Kosovo war... remember that? That was against U.N. and not in
American interests.

Clinton was a globalist
Clinton was big multinational corporations ( See Hutchinson Wampoa =

PLA armies Co's)

Clinton and Strobe T. were promoting "New World Order."

The Clinton "Project for an American Century", was to Empire U.N.
under communism with a few world RICH leaders like himself running =

show.

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Al Gore and Kerry too. Anyone who accepts contributions from the big
corporations must do what they want. Neocons would support both =

fact the PNAC document was intended for Clinton when he was in power.
Difference between the Republican Neocons and the Democratic Neocons =

that the Republicans are the favoured ones of the Military Industrial
Complex whereas the Democrats are supported by the Big Consumer Goods
Conglomerates. This is because traditionally, Democrats do not =

big military spending while Republicans do. In any case, the Neocons
believe in the One World idea: the Democrats by world economic =

by making trade deals, the Republicans by world military domination by
outright invasions or threat of it.
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Either way, America's Manifest Destiny of the 21st century is global. =

cannot be any other way. The big corporations have their money =

over the world in their search for more profits. They are not =

goods from third world countries like in "trade" of the old days; they =

their "workers" making goods for the American and world consumer with
American machinery, American investment, American management, American
design. The economies of those countries are now totally dependent on =

U.S. while the investors need assurance that their investments are =

it is only logical that the U.S. Administration wants control over =

governments and the best way to control, according to the Republican =

is not a Clinton style dealmaking but military force, should they step =

of line. That is the meaning of Empire: the creation of One =

assimilating or destroying competing ones. Problem with this idea is =

it runs diametrically opposite to fundamentalist Islam, which sees
materialism and consumerism as Evil.
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shastaman@my-deja.com (Anon Ymous) wrote in message

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Geez, dw, didnt expect that from you. Did I hit a nerve?

Clinton was a neo-con, then!

S~

====

And there I was, waiting for a response to that question. I keep on
seeing it too Shast...but it's unknown on this side of the Atlantic.
It must be important..simply through it's popular usage...but I too,
have no concept of it's meaning.

I've just opened this groups messages and saw a reply made to your
question. Now, thought Rick, now I will understand this probably
political term.

I presume I am right in believing that the word, 'Neocon', doesn't

fact mean, 'Go ***** yourself?' I hope that's so...otherwise I would
have to re-assess an awful lot of posts made here!
Was Dreamy being helpful in supplying the definition? Or was he
exhibiting symptoms often found in ignorant, uneducated and
loud-mouthed youths?

;)

Well, one has to smile...I suppose it's too be expected really. We

originated from climbing from an original pool of slime. It appears
that some people chose to remain there.

Ricky

Werewolf:

Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot: traditional Conservatives
George Bush, ***** Cheney: Neo-Conservatives.

Difference? Traditional conservatives believe in an "America for
Americans" policies, the Monroe Doctrine. They are AGAINST free

against immigration, against America meddling in foreign problems such

as

policing the world. They are FOR low taxes, minimum government

intrusion,

individual rights and individual freedom. Neo-Conservatives OTOH

believe

in the "World for Americans" policies. They are globalists, big
multinational corporations, the "elites" of the world. They believe

free

trade, unhindered access to world markets, one world economic and

financial

system to be controlled by America, of course, "New World Order",

"Project

for an American Century", Empire.

The Neo-cons may not necessarily be Conservatives. Tony Blair is a

Liberal

but also a neo-con. The Europeans saw American world domination

developing

and created the EU, their own free trade economic and financial block

counter American domination. Unfortunately, the EU has no military

might

unless they let Russia in, which NATO will never allow, so it will be
absorbed by the New World Order, despite the efforts of Germany and

France.

Neocon = New Rome

cesar

Well thanks for a thought out reply. Not many of those in a.p.n.

Yet, C. if some of the Neo-con applies than Bill Clinton
administration is, were, and was more Neo-con than Bush.

1999 Kosovo war... remember that? That was against U.N. and not in
American interests.

Clinton was a globalist
Clinton was big multinational corporations ( See Hutchinson Wampoa and
PLA armies Co's)

Clinton and Strobe T. were promoting "New World Order."

The Clinton "Project for an American Century", was to Empire U.N.
under communism with a few world RICH leaders like himself running the
show.

Al Gore and Kerry too. Anyone who accepts contributions from the big
corporations must do what they want. Neocons would support both sides.

fact the PNAC document was intended for Clinton when he was in power.
Difference between the Republican Neocons and the Democratic Neocons IMO

that the Republicans are the favoured ones of the Military Industrial
Complex whereas the Democrats are supported by the Big Consumer Goods
Conglomerates. This is because traditionally, Democrats do not believe in
big military spending while Republicans do. In any case, the Neocons
believe in the One World idea: the Democrats by world economic domination
by making trade deals, the Republicans by world military domination by
outright invasions or threat of it.

Either way, America's Manifest Destiny of the 21st century is global. It
cannot be any other way. The big corporations have their money invested

over the world in their search for more profits. They are not "buying"
goods from third world countries like in "trade" of the old days; they are
their "workers" making goods for the American and world consumer with
American machinery, American investment, American management, American
design. The economies of those countries are now totally dependent on the
U.S. while the investors need assurance that their investments are safe.

it is only logical that the U.S. Administration wants control over those
governments and the best way to control, according to the Republican

is not a Clinton style dealmaking but military force, should they step out
of line. That is the meaning of Empire: the creation of One Civilization

assimilating or destroying competing ones. Problem with this idea is that
it runs diametrically opposite to fundamentalist Islam, which sees
materialism and consumerism as Evil.


cesar

No prob. To find our if you're a neocon candidate or not, take the test
here:

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html

Sticks and stones, right? You not liking the way I "talk" in nothing
compared to coming on here and saying you've thrown your daughters cat
from the balcomy because Grantland "made (you) do it!!!" If that's
the image *you* choose for your life so be it.

It was supposed to be a joke anyway because you brought up how we say
"go ***** yourself" - and you guys say "bloody" and a lot of things
concerning "*****" .. guess you missed it.

Dani