1. Many nations have just now become independent of Russia including
Ukraine & Mongolia.
2. China is just now regaining former nations such as Hong Kong &
Taiwan
I discovered Nostradamus has named 3 GREEK GODS OF THE APOCALYPSE (Each
God is a new King), he named China after Hermes (quatrain X.75) the God
of COMMERCE. Only now is China becoming Richer and thus more powerfull.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/10/cx_da_0110doomoil.html
Prophets Of Doom
The Coming Oil Crisis
Dan Ackman, 01.13.05, 6:00 AM ET
The world economy has gotten fairly comfortable with oil at $45 a
barrel. But how will it react to paying $100 a barrel three years from
now? Or $150 in five years?
That's what the future holds according to Stephen Leeb, president of
Leeb Capital Management and author of The Oil Factor (Warner Books
2004). The result, Leeb says, will be double digit inflation--if we're
lucky. If we're not, it will be a severe depression. We asked Leeb to
explain the gilding of black gold.
You say the price of oil will rise much higher than it already has.
Why?
"The problem we have is that there are 2.3 billion people in Chindia,"
Leeb says, using shorthand for a combined China and India. "Today,
China and India use the energy-equivalent of 5.5 barrels of oil per
person per year, while rich nations use 39. No matter how rosy your
thinking is as to the global supply of oil, there is no way there is
going to be enough to satisfy the demands of an extra 2.3 billion
people coming online."
As China and India become rich nations, the demand for oil could grow
at 6% per year, compared to 2% recently. Currently, the world has
almost no excess supply. The planet is operating at anywhere from 95%
to 99% capacity, Leen says. "There is no margin for error." The only
way the system can respond is continued price increases.
How bad will it get?
At the end of 1999, oil was trading for around $10 a barrel. Since
then, it has risen by about 29% per year. Simply extending the trend
line means that oil will be at $100 a barrel in about three years and
at $160 in five years, Leeb says. If prices rise the way they have in
the last year, the resulting levels will be even higher, and that's
without any major geopolitical crisis in the Persian Gulf or anywhere
else. "It's not a heroic position," Leeb says. "But I don't know how
you avoid it."
What will the result be?
We'll see historically high inflation of 11% to 15%, according to Leeb.
"That's not even so unusual," Leeb says. He notes that the U.S. has had
bouts of inflation at that level during the two world wars and in the
1970s at the tail end of Vietnam.
"We're kind of overdue," he says.
Economically, the U.S. is already on a kind of war footing, with the
war on terror, Iraq, massive military spending and a shortage of a key
commodity, specifically oil.
"I hope I'm wrong," he says. "I've never wanted to look more like an
idiot than I do right now. But I don't see it."
Stephen Leeb
The "optimistic" side of the scenario is that you can live with high
inflation, and even make money with the right investment strategy. Leeb
favors oil stocks like ExxonMobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) and BP
(nyse: BP - news - people ) and traditional hedges like real estate,
and is especially high on oil service stocks like Schlumberger (nyse:
SLB - news - people ) and Transocean (nyse: RIG - news - people ).
When and why will it bottom out?
"I don't see it bottoming out soon," he says. " I think it's a decade-
or generation-long problem. A depression would stop it. But as long as
the Federal Reserve keeps real interest rates negative, that can be
avoided."
The better outcome may be that "as energy prices continue to rise,
we'll organize a worldwide effort to develop alternative energies,"
Leeb says. "Maybe that will even bring the world together."
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13 Jan 2005 02:24:30 PM |
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Subject: The New China Mongol Empire
From: " "
Date: 1/13/2005 5:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <1105622756.665530.27620@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
1. Many nations have just now become independent of Russia including
Ukraine & Mongolia.
2. China is just now regaining former nations such as Hong Kong &
Taiwan
I discovered Nostradamus has named 3 GREEK GODS OF THE APOCALYPSE (Each
God is a new King), he named China after Hermes (quatrain X.75) the God
of COMMERCE. Only now is China becoming Richer and thus more powerfull.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/10/cx_da_0110doomoil.html
Prophets Of Doom
The Coming Oil Crisis
Dan Ackman, 01.13.05, 6:00 AM ET
The world economy has gotten fairly comfortable with oil at $45 a
barrel. But how will it react to paying $100 a barrel three years from
now? Or $150 in five years?
That's what the future holds according to Stephen Leeb, president of
Leeb Capital Management and author of The Oil Factor (Warner Books
2004). The result, Leeb says, will be double digit inflation--if we're
lucky. If we're not, it will be a severe depression. We asked Leeb to
explain the gilding of black gold.
You say the price of oil will rise much higher than it already has.
Why?
"The problem we have is that there are 2.3 billion people in Chindia,"
Leeb says, using shorthand for a combined China and India. "Today,
China and India use the energy-equivalent of 5.5 barrels of oil per
person per year, while rich nations use 39. No matter how rosy your
thinking is as to the global supply of oil, there is no way there is
going to be enough to satisfy the demands of an extra 2.3 billion
people coming online."
As China and India become rich nations, the demand for oil could grow
at 6% per year, compared to 2% recently. Currently, the world has
almost no excess supply. The planet is operating at anywhere from 95%
to 99% capacity, Leen says. "There is no margin for error." The only
way the system can respond is continued price increases.
How bad will it get?
At the end of 1999, oil was trading for around $10 a barrel. Since
then, it has risen by about 29% per year. Simply extending the trend
line means that oil will be at $100 a barrel in about three years and
at $160 in five years, Leeb says. If prices rise the way they have in
the last year, the resulting levels will be even higher, and that's
without any major geopolitical crisis in the Persian Gulf or anywhere
else. "It's not a heroic position," Leeb says. "But I don't know how
you avoid it."
What will the result be?
We'll see historically high inflation of 11% to 15%, according to Leeb.
"That's not even so unusual," Leeb says. He notes that the U.S. has had
bouts of inflation at that level during the two world wars and in the
1970s at the tail end of Vietnam.
"We're kind of overdue," he says.
Economically, the U.S. is already on a kind of war footing, with the
war on terror, Iraq, massive military spending and a shortage of a key
commodity, specifically oil.
"I hope I'm wrong," he says. "I've never wanted to look more like an
idiot than I do right now. But I don't see it."
Stephen Leeb
The "optimistic" side of the scenario is that you can live with high
inflation, and even make money with the right investment strategy. Leeb
favors oil stocks like ExxonMobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) and BP
(nyse: BP - news - people ) and traditional hedges like real estate,
and is especially high on oil service stocks like Schlumberger (nyse:
SLB - news - people ) and Transocean (nyse: RIG - news - people ).
When and why will it bottom out?
"I don't see it bottoming out soon," he says. " I think it's a decade-
or generation-long problem. A depression would stop it. But as long as
the Federal Reserve keeps real interest rates negative, that can be
avoided."
The better outcome may be that "as energy prices continue to rise,
we'll organize a worldwide effort to develop alternative energies,"
Leeb says. "Maybe that will even bring the world together."
No doubt there will be a gigantic world wide shift to high tech solar energy
use
(after the idiots of the world) make all
the oil radioactive and useless as an
energy source. This in turn with the
continual improvement of the Internet
will bring world unity, peace and respect
for all.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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13 Jan 2005 04:48:10 PM |
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tadapope@aol.comWOMP (TaDa Pope) Spat the Words
Subject: The New China Mongol Empire
From: " "
Date: 1/13/2005 5:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <1105622756.665530.27620@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
1. Many nations have just now become independent of Russia including
Ukraine & Mongolia.
2. China is just now regaining former nations such as Hong Kong &
Taiwan
I discovered Nostradamus has named 3 GREEK GODS OF THE APOCALYPSE (Each
God is a new King), he named China after Hermes (quatrain X.75) the God
of COMMERCE. Only now is China becoming Richer and thus more powerfull.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/10/cx_da_0110doomoil.html
Prophets Of Doom
The Coming Oil Crisis
Dan Ackman, 01.13.05, 6:00 AM ET
The world economy has gotten fairly comfortable with oil at $45 a
barrel. But how will it react to paying $100 a barrel three years from
now? Or $150 in five years?
That's what the future holds according to Stephen Leeb, president of
Leeb Capital Management and author of The Oil Factor (Warner Books
2004). The result, Leeb says, will be double digit inflation--if we're
lucky. If we're not, it will be a severe depression. We asked Leeb to
explain the gilding of black gold.
You say the price of oil will rise much higher than it already has.
Why?
"The problem we have is that there are 2.3 billion people in Chindia,"
Leeb says, using shorthand for a combined China and India. "Today,
China and India use the energy-equivalent of 5.5 barrels of oil per
person per year, while rich nations use 39. No matter how rosy your
thinking is as to the global supply of oil, there is no way there is
going to be enough to satisfy the demands of an extra 2.3 billion
people coming online."
As China and India become rich nations, the demand for oil could grow
at 6% per year, compared to 2% recently. Currently, the world has
almost no excess supply. The planet is operating at anywhere from 95%
to 99% capacity, Leen says. "There is no margin for error." The only
way the system can respond is continued price increases.
How bad will it get?
At the end of 1999, oil was trading for around $10 a barrel. Since
then, it has risen by about 29% per year. Simply extending the trend
line means that oil will be at $100 a barrel in about three years and
at $160 in five years, Leeb says. If prices rise the way they have in
the last year, the resulting levels will be even higher, and that's
without any major geopolitical crisis in the Persian Gulf or anywhere
else. "It's not a heroic position," Leeb says. "But I don't know how
you avoid it."
What will the result be?
We'll see historically high inflation of 11% to 15%, according to Leeb.
"That's not even so unusual," Leeb says. He notes that the U.S. has had
bouts of inflation at that level during the two world wars and in the
1970s at the tail end of Vietnam.
"We're kind of overdue," he says.
Economically, the U.S. is already on a kind of war footing, with the
war on terror, Iraq, massive military spending and a shortage of a key
commodity, specifically oil.
"I hope I'm wrong," he says. "I've never wanted to look more like an
idiot than I do right now. But I don't see it."
Stephen Leeb
The "optimistic" side of the scenario is that you can live with high
inflation, and even make money with the right investment strategy. Leeb
favors oil stocks like ExxonMobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) and BP
(nyse: BP - news - people ) and traditional hedges like real estate,
and is especially high on oil service stocks like Schlumberger (nyse:
SLB - news - people ) and Transocean (nyse: RIG - news - people ).
When and why will it bottom out?
"I don't see it bottoming out soon," he says. " I think it's a decade-
or generation-long problem. A depression would stop it. But as long as
the Federal Reserve keeps real interest rates negative, that can be
avoided."
The better outcome may be that "as energy prices continue to rise,
we'll organize a worldwide effort to develop alternative energies,"
Leeb says. "Maybe that will even bring the world together."
No doubt there will be a gigantic world wide shift to high tech solar
energy use
(after the idiots of the world) make all
the oil radioactive and useless as an
energy source. This in turn with the
continual improvement of the Internet
will bring world unity, peace and respect
for all.
Perhaps we get fusion reaction generators working some time
in the next 100 years. It certainly would cut down on the
fighting if everybody had free energy.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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13 Jan 2005 05:36:44 PM |
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tadapope@aol.comWOMP (TaDa Pope), wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus,
to, 13 jan 2005 20:24:30 GMT:
No doubt there will be a gigantic world wide shift to high tech solar
energy use
According to this it might be true:
http://www.rense.com/general61/solar.htm
Solar Panels May Get Five
Times More Efficient
CTV.ca
1-12-5
TORONTO (CP) -- Researchers at the University of Toronto have invented an infrared-sensitive material that's
five times more efficient at turning the sun's power into electrical energy than current methods.
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H.
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13 Jan 2005 07:45:40 AM |
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But another Nostradamus Greek God will come ahead of China which is the
new Persia (Nostradamus' Xerxex in his letter to King Henry). Thanks to
Bush the Shiites are now dominant in Iraq as well as Iran, and will
form one as they become the new superpower oil suppliers. Their wealth
will help Osama Ben Laden's Yemenis revolt and gain back control of
Saudi Arabia and it's rich oil fields.
Still waiting for someone to name this Greek God, since he is found in
too many Nostradamus quatrains....he will destroy the Roman Church
1. Many nations have just now become independent of Russia including
Ukraine & Mongolia.
2. China is just now regaining former nations such as Hong Kong &
Taiwan
I discovered Nostradamus has named 3 GREEK GODS OF THE APOCALYPSE
(Each
God is a new King), he named China after Hermes (quatrain X.75) the
God
of COMMERCE. Only now is China becoming Richer and thus more
powerfull.
http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/10/cx_da_0110doomoil.html
Prophets Of Doom
The Coming Oil Crisis
Dan Ackman, 01.13.05, 6:00 AM ET
The world economy has gotten fairly comfortable with oil at $45 a
barrel. But how will it react to paying $100 a barrel three years
from
now? Or $150 in five years?
That's what the future holds according to Stephen Leeb, president of
Leeb Capital Management and author of The Oil Factor (Warner Books
2004). The result, Leeb says, will be double digit inflation--if
we're
lucky. If we're not, it will be a severe depression. We asked Leeb to
explain the gilding of black gold.
You say the price of oil will rise much higher than it already has.
Why?
"The problem we have is that there are 2.3 billion people in
Chindia,"
Leeb says, using shorthand for a combined China and India. "Today,
China and India use the energy-equivalent of 5.5 barrels of oil per
person per year, while rich nations use 39. No matter how rosy your
thinking is as to the global supply of oil, there is no way there is
going to be enough to satisfy the demands of an extra 2.3 billion
people coming online."
As China and India become rich nations, the demand for oil could grow
at 6% per year, compared to 2% recently. Currently, the world has
almost no excess supply. The planet is operating at anywhere from 95%
to 99% capacity, Leen says. "There is no margin for error." The only
way the system can respond is continued price increases.
How bad will it get?
At the end of 1999, oil was trading for around $10 a barrel. Since
then, it has risen by about 29% per year. Simply extending the trend
line means that oil will be at $100 a barrel in about three years and
at $160 in five years, Leeb says. If prices rise the way they have in
the last year, the resulting levels will be even higher, and that's
without any major geopolitical crisis in the Persian Gulf or anywhere
else. "It's not a heroic position," Leeb says. "But I don't know how
you avoid it."
What will the result be?
We'll see historically high inflation of 11% to 15%, according to
Leeb.
"That's not even so unusual," Leeb says. He notes that the U.S. has
had
bouts of inflation at that level during the two world wars and in the
1970s at the tail end of Vietnam.
"We're kind of overdue," he says.
Economically, the U.S. is already on a kind of war footing, with the
war on terror, Iraq, massive military spending and a shortage of a
key
commodity, specifically oil.
"I hope I'm wrong," he says. "I've never wanted to look more like an
idiot than I do right now. But I don't see it."
Stephen Leeb
The "optimistic" side of the scenario is that you can live with high
inflation, and even make money with the right investment strategy.
Leeb
favors oil stocks like ExxonMobil (nyse: XOM - news - people ) and BP
(nyse: BP - news - people ) and traditional hedges like real estate,
and is especially high on oil service stocks like Schlumberger (nyse:
SLB - news - people ) and Transocean (nyse: RIG - news - people ).
When and why will it bottom out?
"I don't see it bottoming out soon," he says. " I think it's a
decade-
or generation-long problem. A depression would stop it. But as long
as
the Federal Reserve keeps real interest rates negative, that can be
avoided."
The better outcome may be that "as energy prices continue to rise,
we'll organize a worldwide effort to develop alternative energies,"
Leeb says. "Maybe that will even bring the world together."
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13 Jan 2005 05:43:22 PM |
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But war has consequences and these guys are playing to win and are
going to use everything they can lay their hands on, so all those
nightmares of Bio/chem will not only be a possibility but a certainty,
Usama gets Spain Iran Syria well I am sure they all get a piece.
But don't forget, it is only History repeating.
LB
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15 Jan 2005 07:08:31 AM |
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"leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au"
wrote:
But war has consequences and these guys are playing to win and are
going to use everything they can lay their hands on, so all those
nightmares of Bio/chem will not only be a possibility but a certainty,
Usama gets Spain Iran Syria well I am sure they all get a piece.
But don't forget, it is only History repeating.
LB
So if you feel that this is going to happen, why do you attack President Bush
for going to war against these people?
Tony
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15 Jan 2005 05:19:24 PM |
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Hey he could of got another decade or so if he had played calm etc, but
he has put the fast forward on, and has lost legitimacy doing so.
LB
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| User: "TaDa Pope" |
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13 Jan 2005 06:51:16 PM |
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My periods end is only six months away.
I say party like a wild pagan until the end.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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