The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688.
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21 Jun 2004 12:33:47 PM |
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<grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co> wrote in message
news:pe0ed0p54dte08720m2p57jbrgqrlsga1d@4ax.com...
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were
imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council
resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution
688.
And created a haven for terrorists, who built a camp outside of Saddam's
control area there.
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| User: "Bill Bonde ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goats pelt to thedeck " |
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21 Jun 2004 01:51:57 PM |
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Ouroboros Rex wrote:
<grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co> wrote in message
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution
688.
And created a haven for terrorists, who built a camp outside of Saddam's
control area there.
Were you willing to let Saddam pacify those regions? He was committing
genocide there before we responded with the no-fly zones.
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"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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| User: "www.ttdown.com" |
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21 Jun 2004 05:49:05 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:51:57 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``I could have
nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )"
<stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote:
<grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co> wrote in message
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution
688.
And created a haven for terrorists, who built a camp outside of Saddam's
control area there.
Were you willing to let Saddam pacify those regions? He was committing
genocide there before we responded with the no-fly zones.
Yer correct, he did.....with technical and intelligence help from the
good ole US of A......had he not invaded Kuwait, he'd still be
American favorite Sand ***** Buttboy......
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21 Jun 2004 04:55:27 PM |
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wrote in message news:<pe0ed0p54dte08720m2p57jbrgqrlsga1d@4ax.com>...
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688.
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Considering Saddam only had a few choppers, his radar was constantly
being destroyed.
I am sure when the sandal is on the other foot, a no fly zone might
also be imposed!
LB
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| User: "Bill Bonde ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goats pelt to thedeck " |
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21 Jun 2004 01:45:28 PM |
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wrote:
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688.
You do realize that these no-fly zones protected the Kurds and the Sunni
in the South and made it more difficult for Saddam to further commit
genocide, don't you? Or do you support genocide when Saddam does it?
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"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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| User: "www.ttdown.com" |
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21 Jun 2004 05:51:29 PM |
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:45:28 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``I could have
nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )"
<stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688.
You do realize that these no-fly zones protected the Kurds and the Sunni
in the South and made it more difficult for Saddam to further commit
genocide, don't you? Or do you support genocide when Saddam does it?
Why weren't there no fly zone imposed on him earlier eh? Like during
the Iran-Iraq war when he was at his most active genocide best? Oh
right, he wasn't the big bad boogieman back then....no, he was your
bestest bud in the region.....fighting those heathen Iranians and
their Kurdish allies.....is there anything as two faced as a Neo-Con?
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| User: "Bill Bonde ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goats pelt to thedeck " |
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21 Jun 2004 08:07:26 PM |
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"www.ttdown.com" wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:45:28 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``I could have
nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )"
<stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co wrote:
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution 688.
You do realize that these no-fly zones protected the Kurds and the Sunni
in the South and made it more difficult for Saddam to further commit
genocide, don't you? Or do you support genocide when Saddam does it?
Why weren't there no fly zone imposed on him earlier eh?
Earlier when? They were imposed after the end of the 1991 Gulf War after
Saddam began his genocide of the Marsh Arabs and the Kurds.
Like during
the Iran-Iraq war when he was at his most active genocide best?
Was he at his genocide 'best' then? He managed to kill almost all of the
Marsh Arabs after the 1991 Gulf War. That was pretty bad.
Oh
right, he wasn't the big bad boogieman back then....no, he was your
bestest bud in the region.....
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any US
made weapons?
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"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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21 Jun 2004 11:35:13 PM |
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"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the =
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any US
made weapons?
ummmm.... they did have weapons branded "Made in USA"
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php
"At every turn of the war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will =
face weapons systems largely developed and supplied to Iraq by American, =
European, Russian and Chinese companies."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm
"The CDC and a biological sample company, the American Type Culture =
Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, =
including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs =
that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples of =
other deadly pathogens, including the West Nile virus."
And here's a nice link to some more info on Iraq and other ill ***** the =
US governement (and various corporations) have pulled:
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html
I feel real sorry for anyone who has to identify themselves as an =
American these days... only war mongers and bullies would be proud of =
the way their 'leaders' are handling this... I'm particularly ashamed of =
my government's (Australia) involvment in this whole Iraq mess, as they =
certainly don't represent the hearts and minds of the people I've spoken =
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22 Jun 2004 12:07:32 AM |
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Aidan wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any
US
made weapons?
ummmm.... they did have weapons branded "Made in USA"
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php
"At every turn of the war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will
face weapons systems largely developed and supplied to Iraq by
American, European, Russian and Chinese companies."
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq but feel free to find US made *weapons* there. You can't.
The rest of this crap below is also not what I was asking for.
Biological samples are *not* bioweapons, not WMDs.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm
"The CDC and a biological sample company, the American Type Culture
Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons,
including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the
germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples
of other deadly pathogens, including the West Nile virus."
And here's a nice link to some more info on Iraq and other ill *****
the US governement (and various corporations) have pulled:
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html
I feel real sorry for anyone who has to identify themselves as an
American these days... only war mongers and bullies would be proud of
the way their 'leaders' are handling this... I'm particularly ashamed
of my government's (Australia) involvment in this whole Iraq mess,
as they certainly don't represent the hearts and minds of the people
I've spoken to on the subject.
--
"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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22 Jun 2004 09:47:43 AM |
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"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:40D7BE94.8029B337@backpacker.com...
Aidan wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any
US
made weapons?
ummmm.... they did have weapons branded "Made in USA"
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php
"At every turn of the war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will
face weapons systems largely developed and supplied to Iraq by
American, European, Russian and Chinese companies."
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq but feel free to find US made *weapons* there. You can't.
The rest of this crap below is also not what I was asking for.
Biological samples are *not* bioweapons, not WMDs.
They are as soon as you stick a plasmid loop in 'em, moron.
The following is a representative list of biologicals sold to Iraq by
the United States prior to the Gulf War.
Date: August 21,1987
Sent to:State Company for Drug Industries Material s Shipped:
1) Saccharomyces cerevesiae(ATCC2601)
Batch #08-28-08 (1each)
2) Salmonella choleraaesuis subsp.
choleraesuis Serotype typhi(ATCC656539)
Batch #06-86S(1each)
3) Bacillus subtillus(ATCC 6633)
Batch #10-85(2 each)
4) Klebsiella pneumoniae subsp. pneumoniae(ATCC 10031)
Batch # 08-13-80 (1 each)
5) Escherichia coli (ATCC 10536)
Batch # 04-09-80 (1 each)
6) Bacillus cereus (11778)
Batch #05-85SSV (2 each)
7) Staphylococcus epidermidis (ATCC 12228)
Batch #11-86S (1 each)
8) Bacillus purnilus(ACTT 14884)
Batch #09-08-20 ( 2 each)
Date July 11, 1988
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 11303)
Batch #04-87S
Phage host
2) Cauliflower Mosaic Caulimovirus (ATCC 45031) Batch # 06-14-85
Plant virus
3) Plasmit in Agrobacterium Tumefaciens
(ATCC 3739)
(Ti plasmid for co-cultivation with plant integration vectors in
E.coli)Batch # 05-28-85
Date: April 26,1988
Sent to: Iraq Atmomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Hulambdal4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphorbosyltansferase
(HRPT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57236)
Phase vector: Suggested host E.coli
2) Hulambdal14-8, clone:human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltansferase(HPRT)Chromosome(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Phage vector:Suggested host E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57242)
Phage vector: Suggesed host:E.coli
Date: August 31, 1987
Sent to: Iarq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 23846)
Batch #07-29-83 ( 1 each )
2) Escherichia coli(ATCC 33694)
Batch # 03-87 (1 each)
Date: September 29,1988
Sent to: Ministry of Trade Materials Shipped:
1) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 240)
Batch #05-14-63 (3 each) Class III pathogen
2) Bacillis anthracis(ATCC 3629
Batch #1963 (3 each) Class III pathogen
3) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 3629)
Batch # 10-23-85 (3 each)
4) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 8009)
Batch #03-30-84 9 (3 each)
5) Bacillis anthracis (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 06-27-62 (3 each) Class III pathogen
6) Brucella abortns (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 05-11-66 ( 3 each) Class III pathogen
7) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 10388)
Batch # 06-01-73 ( 3 each)
8) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 11966)
Batch# 05-05-70 (3 each) Class III pathogen
9) Clostridium botulinum Type A
Batch # 07-86 (3 each) Class III pathogen
10) Bacillus cereus (ATCC 33018)
Batch # 04-83 (3 each)
11) Bacillus ceres (ATCC 33019)
Batch # 03-88 ( 3 each)
Date: January 21, 1989
Sent to: Iraq Atmic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) PHPT31, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57057)
2) plambda 500, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
pseudogene (HPRT)
Chromosome(s): 5 p14-p13 (ATCC 57212)
Date: January 17,1989
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Hulambdal 4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
(HPRT) Chromosone(s)X q26.1 (ATCC 57237)
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
2) Hulambdal4, clone: human hypoxanthine phosporibosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosone(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Cloned from human lymphoblast
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxantrhine
phosphoribosytransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s) X q26.1
(ATCC 57241)
Phage vector, Suggested host: E. coli
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25 Jun 2004 01:07:09 PM |
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Server 13 wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:40D7BE94.8029B337@backpacker.com...
Aidan wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any
US
made weapons?
ummmm.... they did have weapons branded "Made in USA"
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php
"At every turn of the war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will
face weapons systems largely developed and supplied to Iraq by
American, European, Russian and Chinese companies."
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq but feel free to find US made *weapons* there. You can't.
The rest of this crap below is also not what I was asking for.
Biological samples are *not* bioweapons, not WMDs.
They are as soon as you stick a plasmid loop in 'em, moron.
The following is a representative list of biologicals sold to Iraq by
the United States prior to the Gulf War.
Those are biological samples sold by ATCC, which does that sort of thing
as a business. ATCC [ found at http://www.atcc.org/ ] sells all sorts of
samples all over the world. Here is a link to their National Park
Service collection, [ http://www.atcc.org/SpecialCollection/NPS.cfm ],
which I'm sure you'll claim is 'bioweapons' if someone like Saddam
manages to get hold of them.
Date: August 21,1987
Sent to:State Company for Drug Industries Material s Shipped:
1) Saccharomyces cerevesiae(ATCC2601)
Batch #08-28-08 (1each)
2) Salmonella choleraaesuis subsp.
choleraesuis Serotype typhi(ATCC656539)
Batch #06-86S(1each)
3) Bacillus subtillus(ATCC 6633)
Batch #10-85(2 each)
4) Klebsiella pneumoniae subsp. pneumoniae(ATCC 10031)
Batch # 08-13-80 (1 each)
5) Escherichia coli (ATCC 10536)
Batch # 04-09-80 (1 each)
6) Bacillus cereus (11778)
Batch #05-85SSV (2 each)
7) Staphylococcus epidermidis (ATCC 12228)
Batch #11-86S (1 each)
8) Bacillus purnilus(ACTT 14884)
Batch #09-08-20 ( 2 each)
Date July 11, 1988
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 11303)
Batch #04-87S
Phage host
2) Cauliflower Mosaic Caulimovirus (ATCC 45031) Batch # 06-14-85
Plant virus
3) Plasmit in Agrobacterium Tumefaciens
(ATCC 3739)
(Ti plasmid for co-cultivation with plant integration vectors in
E.coli)Batch # 05-28-85
Date: April 26,1988
Sent to: Iraq Atmomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Hulambdal4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphorbosyltansferase
(HRPT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57236)
Phase vector: Suggested host E.coli
2) Hulambdal14-8, clone:human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltansferase(HPRT)Chromosome(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Phage vector:Suggested host E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxanthine
phosphoribosyltransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57242)
Phage vector: Suggesed host:E.coli
Date: August 31, 1987
Sent to: Iarq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Escherichia coli (ATCC 23846)
Batch #07-29-83 ( 1 each )
2) Escherichia coli(ATCC 33694)
Batch # 03-87 (1 each)
Date: September 29,1988
Sent to: Ministry of Trade Materials Shipped:
1) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 240)
Batch #05-14-63 (3 each) Class III pathogen
2) Bacillis anthracis(ATCC 3629
Batch #1963 (3 each) Class III pathogen
3) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 3629)
Batch # 10-23-85 (3 each)
4) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 8009)
Batch #03-30-84 9 (3 each)
5) Bacillis anthracis (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 06-27-62 (3 each) Class III pathogen
6) Brucella abortns (ATCC 9014)
Batch # 05-11-66 ( 3 each) Class III pathogen
7) Clostridium perfringens (ATCC 10388)
Batch # 06-01-73 ( 3 each)
8) Bacillus anthracis (ATCC 11966)
Batch# 05-05-70 (3 each) Class III pathogen
9) Clostridium botulinum Type A
Batch # 07-86 (3 each) Class III pathogen
10) Bacillus cereus (ATCC 33018)
Batch # 04-83 (3 each)
11) Bacillus ceres (ATCC 33019)
Batch # 03-88 ( 3 each)
Date: January 21, 1989
Sent to: Iraq Atmic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) PHPT31, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosome(s)
X q26.1 (ATCC 57057)
2) plambda 500, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
pseudogene (HPRT)
Chromosome(s): 5 p14-p13 (ATCC 57212)
Date: January 17,1989
Sent to: Iraq Atomic Energy Commission Materials Shipped:
1) Hulambdal 4x-8, clone: human hypoxanthine phosphoribosyltransferase
(HPRT) Chromosone(s)X q26.1 (ATCC 57237)
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
2) Hulambdal4, clone: human hypoxanthine phosporibosyltransferase (HPRT)
Chromosone(s):
X q26.1 (ATCC 57240)
Cloned from human lymphoblast
Phage vector: Suggested host: E. coli
3) Hulambdal 15, clone: human hypoxantrhine
phosphoribosytransferase(HPRT) Chromosome(s) X q26.1
(ATCC 57241)
Phage vector, Suggested host: E. coli
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"He named his second child Jim after the horse that had brought him to
Washington. He caught his son one day writing 'James' on his lessons,
and he told the boy without raising his voice that if he had wanted to
name him 'James', that is what he would have done." -+Edward P. Jones,
"The Known World"
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This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
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"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
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This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
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22 Jun 2004 11:09:29 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8ISBc.9972$w07.4186@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
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This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
10 years ago botulinum was only a poison. Now Kerry shoots the stuff
like a heroin adict.
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| User: "Bill Bonde ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goats pelt to thedeck " |
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Al wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8ISBc.9972$w07.4186@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
news:newscache$rlbpzh$o69$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
10 years ago botulinum was only a poison. Now Kerry shoots the stuff
like a heroin adict.
And he's equally insistent that he doesn't have a problem: "I can stop
at any time!"
--
"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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| User: "Al" |
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22 Jun 2004 06:22:10 PM |
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"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<40D86568.F7082101@backpacker.com>...
Al wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8ISBc.9972$w07.4186@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
news:newscache$rlbpzh$o69$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
10 years ago botulinum was only a poison. Now Kerry shoots the stuff
like a heroin adict.
And he's equally insistent that he doesn't have a problem: "I can stop
at any time!"
If he's lucky, Kerry's friends will have an intervention after the
election. Kerry will then use anthrax to get him over botulinum
withdrawl.
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22 Jun 2004 05:02:45 PM |
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"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<40D86568.F7082101@backpacker.com>...
Al wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8ISBc.9972$w07.4186@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
news:newscache$rlbpzh$o69$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
10 years ago botulinum was only a poison. Now Kerry shoots the stuff
like a heroin adict.
And he's equally insistent that he doesn't have a problem: "I can stop
at any time!"
Of course you have no evidence he has done anything of the kind. But
since you are too stupid to refute his policies you have to libel the
man. Another reason you are held in such contempt. You are
intellectually dishonest.
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| User: "Bill Bonde ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goats pelt to thedeck " |
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22 Jun 2004 09:36:00 PM |
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Tim Crowley wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote in message news:<40D86568.F7082101@backpacker.com>...
Al wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<8ISBc.9972$w07.4186@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message
news:newscache$rlbpzh$o69$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****? Care to
enlighten us as to the many and vaired uses of this agent?
Testing cures for anthrax, actually.
10 years ago botulinum was only a poison. Now Kerry shoots the stuff
like a heroin adict.
And he's equally insistent that he doesn't have a problem: "I can stop
at any time!"
Of course you have no evidence he has done anything of the kind. But
since you are too stupid to refute his policies you have to libel the
man. Another reason you are held in such contempt. You are
intellectually dishonest.
As always, Crowley is utterly humourless.
--
"I always vote for the most stupid." -+Georges Clemenceau
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22 Jun 2004 11:57:59 AM |
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Aidan wrote:
This is nonsense. Of course dual use materials made in the US managed to
get to Iraq
Anthrax has a dual use? As in, it's not just for killing *****?
Biological samples from the CDC and ATCC are used all over the world for
research purposes. Anthrax is a major killer of livestock in the third
world.
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Thank God the majority of Saddam's weapon systems were inferior junk =
from Europe, China, and Russia. If it would've been American weapon =
systems the initial push to Baghdad would've been much more difficult. =
Did I mention that Euro, China, and Russion made military equipment is =
junk? LMFAO. Don't feel sorry for this American. I actually pity your =
sad, weak country. Pathetic.
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message =
news:newscache$vh5pzh$r39$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed the St. Helena goat's pelt to the =
deck'' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
How do you figure? If Iraq was a US ally, why doesn't Iraq have any =
US
made weapons?
ummmm.... they did have weapons branded "Made in USA"
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php
"At every turn of the war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will =
face weapons systems largely developed and supplied to Iraq by American, =
European, Russian and Chinese companies."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm
"The CDC and a biological sample company, the American Type Culture =
Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, =
including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs =
that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples of =
other deadly pathogens, including the West Nile virus."
And here's a nice link to some more info on Iraq and other ill ***** =
the US governement (and various corporations) have pulled:
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html
I feel real sorry for anyone who has to identify themselves as an =
American these days... only war mongers and bullies would be proud of =
the way their 'leaders' are handling this... I'm particularly ashamed of =
my government's (Australia) involvment in this whole Iraq mess, as they =
certainly don't represent the hearts and minds of the people I've spoken =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank God the majority of Saddam's =
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American=20
weapon systems the initial push to Baghdad would've been much more =
difficult.=20
Did I mention that Euro, China, and Russion made military equipment is =
junk?=20
LMFAO. Don't feel sorry for this American. I actually pity your sad, =
weak=20
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href=3D"mailto:aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam">aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam</=
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wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Bill Bonde ( ``I could have nailed =
the St.=20
Helena goat's pelt to the deck'' )" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stderr2@backpacker.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>stderr2@backpacker.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> How do you figure? If Iraq was a =
US ally,=20
why doesn't Iraq have any US<BR>> made weapons?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ummmm.... they did have weapons =
branded "Made in=20
USA"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/18/features-crogan1.php"><FONT=20
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<DIV><!--StartFragment --><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>"At every =
turn of the=20
war against Iraq, U.S. and British forces will face weapons systems =
largely=20
developed and supplied to Iraq by <STRONG>American</STRONG>, European, =
Russian=20
and Chinese companies."</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D"http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm">=
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<DIV><!--StartFragment --><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>"The CDC and =
a=20
biological sample company, the American Type Culture Collection, sent =
strains=20
of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the =
bacteria=20
that make botulinum toxin and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the =
records=20
show. Iraq also got samples of other deadly pathogens, including the =
West Nile=20
virus."</EM></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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face=3DArial size=3D2>And=20
here's a nice link to some more info on Iraq and other ill ***** =
the US=20
governement (and various corporations) have=20
pulled:</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html">http://www.worldm=
essenger.20m.com/weapons.html</A></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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to identify=20
themselves as an American these days... only war mongers and=20
bullies would be proud of the way their 'leaders' are handling =
this...=20
I'm particularly ashamed of my government's =
(Australia) involvment=20
in this whole Iraq mess, as they certainly don't represent the =
hearts and=20
minds of the people I've spoken to on the subject.</FONT></DIV>
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Don't feel sorry for this American. I actually pity your sad, weak =
country. Pathetic.
I don't feel sorry for those Americans who are proud to be lead by a =
scatter brain coke fiend. I laugh at those people....
I actually pity your farcical, violent, sardine can of a country... =
give me the sparsly populated tropical paradise of Australia anyday.
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Steve Irwin. LMFAO.=20
"Aidan" <aidan@linknet.com.au.unspam> wrote in message =
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Don't feel sorry for this American. I actually pity your sad, weak =
country. Pathetic.
I don't feel sorry for those Americans who are proud to be lead by a =
scatter brain coke fiend. I laugh at those people....
I actually pity your farcical, violent, sardine can of a country... =
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people....</FONT></DIV>
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22 Jun 2004 11:00:47 AM |
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
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Steve Irwin. LMFAO.
Could probably beat Bush in an election.. knows what he's talking about too,
unlike you eh, Jimosabe?
ROFLMFAOADW!
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23 Jun 2004 12:41:23 AM |
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Steve Irwin. LMFAO.
To you (and me) he may seem like an over grown 11 year old with ADHD, but
the amount of good he does for the Australian environment negates my urge to
feel ashamed of him being a spokes person for my country.
With the money he makes he buys large (huge) expanses of natural habitat,
and makes sure thats how they remain. What a shame your country doesn't
have such an unselfish champion of the land... will there be any natural
beauty left in north America after the corps have had their way with it?
My point is, people (like you) may make fun of Steve Irwin, but he's doing
more (in terms or results) for the Australian (and indeed, planet earth's)
environment than just about every pencil pushing politician in every
government on earth... Smart Australians are not ashamed of him, they can
see past his childish nature to what he really is - An Environmental Super
Hero.
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21 Jun 2004 11:21:03 PM |
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www.ttdown.com wrote:
......is there anything as two faced as a Neo-Con?
In a word, no.
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21 Jun 2004 11:23:09 AM |
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Under international law, there is a right to intervene to prevent a
humanitarian catastrophe.
--
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
<grub@internet.charitydays.uk.co> wrote in message
news:pe0ed0p54dte08720m2p57jbrgqrlsga1d@4ax.com...
The no-fly zones over Iraq
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Years before the invasion of Iraq, two no-fly zones over Iraq were
imposed by the US and UK.
Iraqi aircraft were excluded from these zones.
These no-fly zones were NOT authorized by the United Nations.
And they were NOT specifically sanctioned by any Security Council
resolution.
The enforcers claimed a false authority under Security Council Resolution
688.
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