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NAILED
by DAVID DENBY
Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ."
Issue of 2004-03-01
Posted 2004-02-23
In "The Passion of the Christ," Mel Gibson shows little interest in
celebrating the electric charge of hope and redemption that Jesus
Christ brought into the world.
<snip>
As a viewer, I am equally free to say that the movie Gibson has made
from his personal obsessions is a sickening death trip, a grimly
unilluminating procession of treachery, beatings, blood, and agony—and
to say so without indulging in "anti-Christian sentiment" (Gibson's
term for what his critics are spreading). For two hours, with only an
occasional pause or gentle flashback, we watch, stupefied, as a
handsome, strapping, at times half-naked young man (James Caviezel) is
slowly tortured to death. Gibson is so thoroughly fixated on the
scourging and crushing of Christ, and so meagrely involved in the
spiritual meanings of the final hours, that he falls in danger of
altering Jesus' message of love into one of hate.
And against whom will the audience direct its hate? As Gibson was
completing the film, some historians, theologians, and clergymen
accused him of emphasizing the discredited charge that it was the
ancient Jews who were primarily responsible for killing Jesus, a claim
that has served as the traditional justification for the persecution
of the Jews in Europe for nearly two millennia. The critics turn out
to have been right. Gibson is guilty of some serious mischief in his
handling of these issues. But he may have also committed an aggression
against Christian believers. The movie has been hailed as a religious
experience by various Catholic and Protestant groups, some of whom,
with an ungodly eye to the commercial realities of film distribution,
have prepurchased blocks of tickets or rented theatres to insure "The
Passion" a healthy opening weekend's business. But how, I wonder, will
people become better Christians if they are filled with the guilt,
anguish, or loathing that this movie may create in their souls?
<snip>
For two hours, with only an occasional pause or gentle flashback, we
watch, stupefied, as a handsome, strapping, at times half-naked young
man (James Caviezel) is slowly tortured to death. Gibson is so
thoroughly fixated on the scourging and crushing of Christ, and so
meagrely involved in the spiritual meanings of the final hours, that
he falls in danger of altering Jesus' message of love into one of
hate.
<snip>
What is most depressing about "The Passion" is the thought that people
will take their children to see it. Jesus said, "Suffer the little
children to come unto me," not "Let the little children watch me
suffer." How will parents deal with the pain, terror, and anger that
children will doubtless feel as they watch a man flayed and pierced
until dead? The despair of the movie is hard to shrug off, and
Gibson's timing couldn't be more unfortunate: another dose of
death-haunted religious fanaticism is the last thing we need.
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28 Feb 2004 11:58:29 PM |
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm. Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
tap, tap, tap...
Try reading Daark's post, id:4kt14053f30jrsb63l7k64r1ej00p5v969@4ax.com
Scary reading for nervous virgins? Wake up.
Not many would understand. Foolish you. Don't stir up what you can't
handle. A virgin as far as bugging, fat chance, heard of Watergate and
more. The Patriot Act allows tapping, even feet. Watch your toes.
I'll admit being a virgin as far as buggering. Sorry if that doesn't
fit into your erotica novels.
Could have been NSA or GCHQ. Either way it's illegal by international
law. Excerpt from Daark's article:
The NSA costs at least $3.5bn (£1.9bn) a year to run. It employs at
least 20,000 officers (not counting the 100,000 servicemen and
civilians around the world over whom it has control). Its shredders
process 40 tons of paper a day.
Its junior partner is Britain's Government Communications Headquarters
(GCHQ) at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, the eavesdropping organisation
for which Katharine Gun worked. Like NSA, GCHQ is a highly secret
operation. Until 1983, when one of its officers, Geoffrey Prime, was
charged with spying for the Russians, the Government had refused to
reveal what GCHQ's real role was, no doubt because its operations in
peacetime were without a legal basis. Its security is maintained by
massive and deliberately intimidating security.
Newspapers have been discouraged from mentioning it; a book by a
former GCHQ officer, Jock Kane, was seized by Special Branch police
officers and a still photograph of its headquarters was banned by the
Independent Broadcasting Authority, leaving a blank screen during a
World in Action programme. As with NSA, the size of GCHQ's staff at
Cheltenham, about 6,500, gives no real indication of its strength. It
has monitoring stations in Cyprus, West Germany, and Australia and
smaller ones elsewhere. Much of its overseas work is done by service
personnel.
Its budget is thought to be more than £300m a year. A large part of
this is funded by the United States in return for the right to run NSA
listening stations in Britain - Chicksands, Bedfordshire; Edzell,
Scotland; Mentworth Hill, Harrogate; Brawdy, Wales - and on British
territory around the world.
The collaboration between the two agencies offers many advantages to
both. Not only does it make monitoring the globe easier, it solves
tricky legal problems and is the basis of the Prime Minister's
statement yesterday that all Britain's bugging is lawful. The two
agencies simply swap each other's dirty work.
GCHQ eavesdrops on calls made by American citizens and the NSA
monitors calls made by British citizens, thus allowing each government
plausibly to deny it has tapped its own citizens' calls, as they do.
The NSA station at Menwith Hill intercepts all international telephone
calls made from Britain and GCHQ has a list of American citizens whose
phone conversations interest the NSA.
The NSA request to GCHQ for help in bugging the diplomats from those
nations who were holding out for a second Security Council resolution
to authorise an attack on Iraq is unsurprising. Nor is it surprising
that both organisations wanted to provide their political masters with
recordings of private conversations of high-ranking international
diplomats.
It is not difficult. Listening "bugs" can be planted in phones,
electrical plugs, desk lamps and book spines. Given a clear line of
sight, one device enables someone to detect and and interpret sound
waves vibrating against the glass window panes of an office.
Bugging the world is not the problem. The problem is avoiding drowning
in a sea of information. We should not be surprised that GCHQ and NSA
eavesdrop on us. We pay them to do it. We should be asking: "Do they
earn their keep?" And, unless we get a few more whistle-blowers like
Ms Gun, we will not know, because both agencies surround themselves
with a wall of secrecy.
WHO DO WE BUG?
Although under domestic law GCHQ needs a warrant from the Home
Secretary to tap telephones in Britain, it can do so abroad without
such authorisation.
But the United Nations headquarters in New York is considered
sovereign territory, and placing a bug there would be illegal under
international law.
Intelligence services spy on hostile and friendly countries, the
latter mainly for commercial reasons, but also to gain an edge in
diplomatic negotiations. Nato allies are not always immune from
intelligence operations by Britain.
Staff working for the UN inspection teams in Iraq were convinced they
were under surveillance.
France, Germany and Russia complained of a rise in espionage against
them. There was intense activity directed at Jordan and Syria, as well
as Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Egypt.
Officials say the only shock about Katharine Gun's discovery of an
e-mail from the National Security Agency is that she was surprised by
it.
-A
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29 Feb 2004 07:37:03 AM |
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm.
Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change
someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do
you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in
their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
tap, tap, tap...
Try reading Daark's post, id:4kt14053f30jrsb63l7k64r1ej00p5v969@4ax.com
Scary reading for nervous virgins? Wake up.
Not many would understand. Foolish you. Don't stir up what you can't
handle. A virgin as far as bugging, fat chance, heard of Watergate and
more. The Patriot Act allows tapping, even feet. Watch your toes.
I'll admit being a virgin as far as buggering. Sorry if that doesn't
fit into your erotica novels.
Could have been NSA or GCHQ.
At last... we get there in the end.
Anyway, at least I've finally figured why some of your posts resemble
gibberish.. It's a cunning ploy to throw the NSA's computers off the scent.
-A
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| User: "no" |
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29 Feb 2004 03:39:30 AM |
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm. Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
................
If the espionage services aren't doing this kind of thing, what are
they there for?
What, bugging Annan and the UN inspectors?
In the big, bad world, Dee, everyone is spying on everyone. Political,
diplomatic, military and industrial. Guess what? In the world of
grownups, everyone knows it.
Go Clare Short.
Ditto - but for different reasons. I'd like them to quit the
make-believe, stop treating us as though we were all as naive as you
*seem* to be. The more this is acknowledged the safer we'll be from
our own governments.
-A
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| User: "Mark" |
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29 Feb 2004 08:40:10 AM |
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
.... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
.... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
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| User: "naming el" |
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01 Mar 2004 08:26:55 AM |
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
Perhaps there is no distance between us and the percieved most distant
star. It may be Perception that drives the bus and creates the
illusion of distance.
Either way, the "Infinity and beyond" space plan of Bush will get you
there. ;)
Time is of your own making;
its clock ticks in your head.
The moment you stop thought
time too stops dead.
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| User: "no" |
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29 Feb 2004 07:20:42 PM |
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Amy knows my essays in other groups. There's a conversation within a
conversation. I disagree with there being freedom for unlimited; even
legal' apparently reasonable, and within one's power; contributions to
the future.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
Sorry. Disagree. I wish it were so though. Can't elaborate much.
Could, but shouldn't at present.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
Yeah. Messing with the future timeline is far worse though. You'll
understand someday.
................
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
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| User: "Michael Hambly" |
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| Title: Re: the passion of christ |
29 Feb 2004 10:48:05 AM |
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In article <eRm0c.14852$aT1.8532@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mark wrote:
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
Know yee that our childhood ways, will in time pass away.
Worry not it's seemed delay, for chilhood ends not in a day.
To you new hosts we will give, if through the crash we come to live.
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| User: "Mark" |
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| Title: Re: the passion of christ |
29 Feb 2004 11:36:29 AM |
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"Michael Hambly" <michael@blackbirdsoftware.com> wrote in message
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We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we,
the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any
living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
Know yee that our childhood ways, will in time pass away.
Worry not it's seemed delay, for chilhood ends not in a day.
To you new hosts we will give, if through the crash we come to live.
Excellent... most excellent... saved in the archives.
Thank you.
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02 Mar 2004 10:26:23 AM |
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In article <xqp0c.15176$aT1.12821@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mark wrote:
"Michael Hambly" <michael@blackbirdsoftware.com> wrote in message
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In article <eRm0c.14852$aT1.8532@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mark
wrote:
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We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we,
the mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any
living cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there...
or we *will* find another host who will.
;)
Know yee that our childhood ways, will in time pass away.
Worry not it's seemed delay, for chilhood ends not in a day.
To you new hosts we will give, if through the crash we come to live.
Excellent... most excellent... saved in the archives.
Thank you.
As was yours.
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| User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville" |
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02 Mar 2004 12:07:05 PM |
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When I saw it I noticed three times that a series of six red dots (three on top
and three on the bottom) flashed on the screen. SERIOUSLY FOR REAL.
See it for yourself and check it out.
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| User: " John F Lemke" |
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02 Mar 2004 06:18:46 PM |
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"Saint Isidore of Laytonville" <cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP> wrote in message
news:20040302130705.18277.00000664@mb-m06.aol.com...
When I saw it I noticed three times that a series of six red dots (three
on top
and three on the bottom) flashed on the screen. SERIOUSLY FOR REAL.
See it for yourself and check it out.
Yup, I seen it too. Last nite.
Something to do with the reel changes or something far more insidious?
Maybe the Illuminati got a chance to mark the prints just to show that they
really are in total control.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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29 Feb 2004 12:22:20 PM |
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In article <slrnc445ug.m42.michael@hammer.i.blackbirdsoftware.com>, Michael Hambly <michael@blackbirdsoftware.com> wrote:
In article <eRm0c.14852$aT1.8532@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mark wrote:
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
Know yee that our childhood ways, will in time pass away.
Worry not it's seemed delay, for chilhood ends not in a day.
To you new hosts we will give, if through the crash we come to live.
Not a Boomer, I take it?
;-)
Woods
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| User: "Michael Hambly" |
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02 Mar 2004 10:18:21 AM |
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In article <w5q0c.97477$%72.31001@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Woodswun wrote:
In article <slrnc445ug.m42.michael@hammer.i.blackbirdsoftware.com>, Michael Hambly <michael@blackbirdsoftware.com> wrote:
In article <eRm0c.14852$aT1.8532@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Mark wrote:
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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AmyCaton@GoFree.indigo.ie (Absolute Zero) wrote in message
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AmyCaton@GoFree.indigo.ie (Absolute Zero) wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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And let me explain, if that message got through, about messing with
the world. I represent no other person than myself. I meant mess with
the timeline of the world. Go ahead and do so if you think you know
what you are doing.
Directing the 'forward direction' of our timeline is not only fundamentally
easy... but mandatory for each of you... it's one of the conditions for your
existence. Any feeling otherwise is not only illusory, but flat out wrong.
Each and every individual contributes... it's a democratic system...
majority rules... you've no choice but to contribute. None.
It's all part of the conditions when ya'll signed up for this gig.
The difficulty (NOT impossibility) lies in messing with the 'backwards'
direction of the timeline...
... that is, changing what has already perceived as to have occurred.
To your minds, we've had limited success and mixed results to date... most
notably when Jackie K. was spared from the 'magic' bullet... and when we
convinced Germany to attack Russia prematurely...
... but believe it or not... our best trick (so far) was the single flap of
a butterflies wing some 85 million years ago.
That single flap allowed a particular plant to be pollinated, allowing the
plant to bear fruit, which was eaten by a certain (starving) mammal, a
mammal that had a predisposition to be infected by a certain virus... a
virus that flipped a certain gene sequence, in a particular chromosome...
within a particular ovum.
Currently, we are concerned that ya'll are focused on the 'differences'
between you... you seem to be wasting our time on ideological beliefs and
prejudices, rather than reaching for the stars. There's only 35 billion
years left... get busy and get us 'out there'... or it will be time for us
to look for another change... perhaps insects or reptiles this time?
We apologize for any confusion that our influence has caused... but we, the
mitochondria and chloroplasts of the world (who are older than any living
cell), wish to leave this planet... and you will carry us there... or we
*will* find another host who will.
;)
Know yee that our childhood ways, will in time pass away.
Worry not it's seemed delay, for chilhood ends not in a day.
To you new hosts we will give, if through the crash we come to live.
Not a Boomer, I take it?
Hmmm, kind of the tail end of the boomers. But if I understand
your point correctly, then I would have to say it's probably a
valid observation. Considering the magnitude of the debt ratios
in today's economy, it's hard to imagine the Boomer generation
having any chance to recover from what could be a very hard
financial crash.
Of course money is just a concept, and destruction of the concept
does not necessitate destruction of the infrastructure of society.
But who'd understand that?
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| User: "no" |
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29 Feb 2004 12:35:47 AM |
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(Absolute Zero) wrote in message news:<ad960a96.0402280056.4bf80df4@posting.google.com>...
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm. Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
I posted a reply twice. Each was different. But neither got through,
because of server error. I'll take that as a sign, since I am not
going to write another long reply and copy it and go through the whole
rigamarole again. Here is a shorter version three.
Basically, I stated that of course I know of the roughness of the
spook world, and there's nothing like getting your own intel if you
can in a realm where trust is rare, and the UN is international
territory, and certainly GCHQ can do what the Russians and French did.
This is not about Blair at all. You wait in the weeds and snipe at
Tony and me in your quest to prove you are worthy as a prognosticator.
If you had any honor, you would post responsibly about the topic of
prophecies for six straight months. Then I might see that you are
truly worthy and have decent intent and intuition. But you are
incapable. Right, loon?
You are worthless as a prognosticator. If you get 30-40% right in
guesses where average is 50%, you'd be lucky. I would trust Chief
Yellow Jacket's intuition before I trust yours, Miss Roadmap,
assassination of Abbas idiot.
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit. Mess with the world in your venom and froth. I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight. Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us. You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
.............................
If the espionage services aren't doing this kind of thing, what are
they there for?
What, bugging Annan and the UN inspectors?
In the big, bad world, Dee, everyone is spying on everyone. Political,
diplomatic, military and industrial. Guess what? In the world of
grownups, everyone knows it.
Go Clare Short.
Ditto - but for different reasons. I'd like them to quit the
make-believe, stop treating us as though we were all as naive as you
*seem* to be. The more this is acknowledged the safer we'll be from
our own governments.
-A
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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29 Feb 2004 07:33:56 AM |
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"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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AmyCaton@GoFree.indigo.ie (Absolute Zero) wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm.
Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change
someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in
their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
I posted a reply twice. Each was different. But neither got through,
because of server error. I'll take that as a sign, since I am not
going to write another long reply and copy it and go through the whole
rigamarole again. Here is a shorter version three.
You waste way too much time debunking me.
Basically, I stated that of course I know of the roughness of the
spook world, and there's nothing like getting your own intel if you
can in a realm where trust is rare, and the UN is international
territory, and certainly GCHQ can do what the Russians and French did.
Could've fooled me.
(that you basically stated that, show me)
I've had to strangle it out of you.
This is not about Blair at all.
Agreed, It's about your lazy, wimpy, surrogate transference.
You wait in the weeds and snipe at Tony
Poor baby. Once upon a time, in a thread far away (bye bye fallacy), I
agreed that I'd only cane Tony when he hypocritically judged others.
The ONLY reason I'm still re-posting his shite is that he continues to
be a
low-life, hypocritical scumbag. Nobody held a gun to his head and
forced him to post his hilarious cant at Dani re: Howard Stern, for
contemporaneous example. What do you expect?
Try to back horses in future, not three-legged nags. You should
re-read that
thread. 100+ posts from you, defending the indefensible... and
subsequently
proven wrongo! If not WRONGO!
and me in your quest to prove you are worthy as a prognosticator.
Nought relating to prognostication in this sub-thread. Though you'll
often
dredge it up (out of nowhere) when your hand is looking feeble.
If you had any honor, you would post responsibly about the topic of
prophecies for six straight months. Then I might see that you are
truly worthy and have decent intent and intuition. But you are
incapable. Right, loon?
Dee.......................................... you are nuts.
Re-read the self-regarding, arrogant drivel that you've just written.
Who the *****
do you think you are? Being swept by delusions of grandeur are we, eh?
Yes Master, I promise to post responsibly on the topic of prophecies
for the
next six months... that you will see me as worthy. <walks backwards,
cowed,
tugging at forelock>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are worthless as a prognosticator. If you get 30-40% right in
guesses where average is 50%, you'd be lucky. I would trust Chief
Yellow Jacket's intuition before I trust yours, Miss Roadmap,
assassination of Abbas idiot.
Poor obsessed you. I make clear distinctions between opinions and
predictions. I indicate predictions as such... saying this is a marked
prediction. Did you see anything of the like with regard to the above?
No.
You couldn't even figure out that Tony WAS Sonny Slingshot... why
would your
powers of assessment be of any concern to me? You clearly don't posses
any.
If you want to attack the predictions I've made, fine, but you don't
get to
decide what was and wasn't a prediction to suit yourself... unless you
are
completely without honour?
This is YOUR obsession, not mine. Why is that? Why are you so
determined to
"prove" little old me wrong, eh? This is of course a rhetorical
question;
it's all too obvious why.
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit.
You think I post to gain your attention? Get over yourself, solipsist.
You
really are a paragon of self-regard, aren't you?
Mess with the world in your venom and froth.
Yes, I saw the latest in the long series of updates.. go to sleep.
You should make up your public mind, either I'm a worthless
prognosticator
or a short-circuit risk to the future. In either case, you're wrong.
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY don't know how you've managed to drag this
kicking
and screaming from espionage to prophecy. How did you do that and why?
I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight.
Dingbats read "rogering Roget" as a threat, create utterly bizarre
contributions like the following...
"You can crap on the floor and paint that large pile of sht and
sprinkle it with sparkles and put tiny flags of all the nations around
it and spray deodorizer on it till the smell goes away and it dries.
But you wouldn't fool dogs which have a million times more sensitive
sense of smell than humans. Also people who visit your dwelling would
say look at the middle of your living room floor, that's beautiful all
decorated but I see a pile of sht in the middle; now that's original,
but why plant that there? Is that strange or what? Never mind that's
pretty."
You - Knowledgeable, yes... Interesting, yes... Dingbat,
abso-frickin-lutely.
Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
You can keep me company, kook.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us.
Master-baiter. I have my doubts.
You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
Who knows when you snapped? Before my time probably.
Oh, btw, Clare has *just* been questioned on live TV by Jonathan
Dimbleby about whether the intel came from, ours or yours...
"Conceivably" - she had to admit (when asked whether it originated in
the US). Heehaw.
-A
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| User: "no" |
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29 Feb 2004 07:09:31 PM |
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(Absolute Zero) wrote in message news:<ad960a96.0402290533.385323d2@posting.google.com>...
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm.
Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change
someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in
their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
I posted a reply twice. Each was different. But neither got through,
because of server error. I'll take that as a sign, since I am not
going to write another long reply and copy it and go through the whole
rigamarole again. Here is a shorter version three.
You waste way too much time debunking me.
Not at all. I forget often what you keep predicting. Good one recently
about Asia, fat chance.
Basically, I stated that of course I know of the roughness of the
spook world, and there's nothing like getting your own intel if you
can in a realm where trust is rare, and the UN is international
territory, and certainly GCHQ can do what the Russians and French did.
Could've fooled me.
(that you basically stated that, show me)
I've had to strangle it out of you.
Look at my posts funny head. Do I ever mention coverups? Of course.
The US and UK.
This is not about Blair at all.
Agreed, It's about your lazy, wimpy, surrogate transference.
No, I actually believe you had to defend your honor to show your super
dooper intuition about Clare reading US written material. That's all.
I've shown you're intuition to be horrible, from way back when you
gave yourself an unneeded 5 or so point test. I was shocked that
anyone would put sails to wind or whatever like that. Kind of batty.
You wait in the weeds and snipe at Tony
Poor baby. Once upon a time, in a thread far away (bye bye fallacy), I
agreed that I'd only cane Tony when he hypocritically judged others.
The ONLY reason I'm still re-posting his shite is that he continues to
be a
low-life, hypocritical scumbag. Nobody held a gun to his head and
forced him to post his hilarious cant at Dani re: Howard Stern, for
contemporaneous example. What do you expect?
Try to back horses in future, not three-legged nags. You should
re-read that
thread. 100+ posts from you, defending the indefensible... and
subsequently
proven wrongo! If not WRONGO!
I have no idea what you are referring to. I forget that kind of
material. There are important topics in the world.
and me in your quest to prove you are worthy as a prognosticator.
Nought relating to prognostication in this sub-thread. Though you'll
often
dredge it up (out of nowhere) when your hand is looking feeble.
Intuition. At first all you had was supposition. Then finally you got
proof from daark's article.
If you had any honor, you would post responsibly about the topic of
prophecies for six straight months. Then I might see that you are
truly worthy and have decent intent and intuition. But you are
incapable. Right, loon?
Dee.......................................... you are nuts.
Your mirror clear. I know you are incapable of posting responsibly on
prophecies. The last time you tried, you speculated about bifurcations
and Kirkpatrick. Totally useless garbage. Try posting on topic, and
see how miserable your material would be.
I haven't seen much as looney as your first self-test. If I thought
you were trying to defend your intuition, since at first you had no
evidence, of course I will bring up your past failures.
Re-read the self-regarding, arrogant drivel that you've just written.
Who the *****
do you think you are? Being swept by delusions of grandeur are we, eh?
You will see that if I post a self-test of 5 or so predictions mast to
the wind, blah blah, blah.
Yes Master, I promise to post responsibly on the topic of prophecies
for the
next six months... that you will see me as worthy. <walks backwards,
cowed,
tugging at forelock>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Told you you're unworthy. Idiot. Actually not. But you get dingbatty
at times. Come on, you say you know where the real Jesus is. So come
on spit it out, since suddenly you've taken the stand of "What me, I
am the epitome of secular reason. And Dee is so scrweewy". Hah loon.
You are worthless as a prognosticator. If you get 30-40% right in
guesses where average is 50%, you'd be lucky. I would trust Chief
Yellow Jacket's intuition before I trust yours, Miss Roadmap,
assassination of Abbas idiot.
Poor obsessed you. I make clear distinctions between opinions and
predictions. I indicate predictions as such... saying this is a marked
prediction. Did you see anything of the like with regard to the above?
"Official predictions". Hah. When you mentioned something like that, I
had a good LOL.
No.
You couldn't even figure out that Tony WAS Sonny Slingshot... why
would your
powers of assessment be of any concern to me? You clearly don't posses
any.
Who's Slingshot, the guy first mentioned in Sept of 2002. Oh yeah.
If you want to attack the predictions I've made, fine, but you don't
get to
decide what was and wasn't a prediction to suit yourself... unless you
are
completely without honour?
Mark clearly beforehand. This conversation seems like Twilight Zone
material. But we understand each other somewhat.
This is YOUR obsession, not mine. Why is that? Why are you so
determined to
"prove" little old me wrong, eh? This is of course a rhetorical
question;
it's all too obvious why.
You dropped the hints lady. I think you are a loon who thinks she
knows where the real Jesus is. I am not interested in your Jesus. But
you dropped the hints.
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit.
You think I post to gain your attention? Get over yourself, solipsist.
You
really are a paragon of self-regard, aren't you?
Why drop hints like "A ha". Or the Buddhist one couched as a movie
reference. Come on babe. You would like to make me look foolish, but
you dropped the hints. Also, nice try saying bifurcations was a code.
You're famous for that word, in the past...Unless you have selective
memory loss.
Mess with the world in your venom and froth.
Yes, I saw the latest in the long series of updates.. go to sleep.
Make up your mind.
You should make up your public mind, either I'm a worthless
prognosticator
or a short-circuit risk to the future. In either case, you're wrong.
In both, I'm right.
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY don't know how you've managed to drag this
kicking
and screaming from espionage to prophecy. How did you do that and why?
I thought you had nothing except your belief in your intuition. You
showed nothing until the Daark article.
I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight.
Dingbats read "rogering Roget" as a threat, create utterly bizarre
contributions like the following...
"You can crap on the floor and paint that large pile of sht and
sprinkle it with sparkles and put tiny flags of all the nations around
it and spray deodorizer on it till the smell goes away and it dries.
But you wouldn't fool dogs which have a million times more sensitive
sense of smell than humans. Also people who visit your dwelling would
say look at the middle of your living room floor, that's beautiful all
decorated but I see a pile of sht in the middle; now that's original,
but why plant that there? Is that strange or what? Never mind that's
pretty."
You - Knowledgeable, yes... Interesting, yes... Dingbat,
abso-frickin-lutely.
Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
You can keep me company, kook.
Touche. I hide it better.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us.
Master-baiter. I have my doubts.
Master-baiter. How could I resist your bait. I'll try harder later.
You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
Who knows when you snapped? Before my time probably.
Obviously no one gets what is really going on between us. Brilliant
act you are putting on, with nothing to lose. Shame on you for playing
such a game. A ha and the Buddhist reference have been noted. I have
no idea what your motivation is, nor do I really care. I will try to
resist your bait next time.
Oh, btw, Clare has *just* been questioned on live TV by Jonathan
Dimbleby about whether the intel came from, ours or yours...
"Conceivably" - she had to admit (when asked whether it originated in
the US). Heehaw.
You assumed it was US written. She did not confirm that. You sound
like a donkey.
-A
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.... and Wednesday nearers!
"Saint Isidore of Laytonville" <cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP> wrote in message
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Thursday nears!
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| User: "no" |
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02 Mar 2004 06:03:14 PM |
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message news:<20040301195435.06733.00000636@mb-m05.aol.com>...
Thursday nears!
That dreaded day! If the authentic clone appears, I'll get drunk and
see as many showings of The Passion as I can afford on Friday.
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| User: "Mark" |
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03 Mar 2004 10:23:26 PM |
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"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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cturley2@aol.comWOMPWOMP (Saint Isidore of Laytonville) wrote in message
news:<20040301195435.06733.00000636@mb-m05.aol.com>...
Thursday nears!
That dreaded day! If the authentic clone appears, I'll get drunk and
see as many showings of The Passion as I can afford on Friday.
I'd be interested in your opinion of the movie, Vik.
In the meantime... I'll meet ya in beernirvana.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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29 Feb 2004 01:01:47 AM |
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(no) pouted:
I posted a reply twice. Each was different. But neither got through,
because of server error. I'll take that as a sign, since I am not
going to write another long reply and copy it and go through the whole
rigamarole again. Here is a shorter version three.
Basically, I stated that of course I know of the roughness of the
spook world, and there's nothing like getting your own intel if you
can in a realm where trust is rare, and the UN is international
territory, and certainly GCHQ can do what the Russians and French did.
This is not about Blair at all. You wait in the weeds and snipe at
Tony and me in your quest to prove you are worthy as a prognosticator.
If you had any honor, you would post responsibly about the topic of
prophecies for six straight months. Then I might see that you are
truly worthy and have decent intent and intuition. But you are
incapable. Right, loon?
You are worthless as a prognosticator. If you get 30-40% right in
guesses where average is 50%, you'd be lucky. I would trust Chief
Yellow Jacket's intuition before I trust yours, Miss Roadmap,
assassination of Abbas idiot.
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit. Mess with the world in your venom and froth. I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight. Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us. You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
ooo golly amy! Consider yourself well-and-twooly dissed! Oooohh.
wally
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29 Feb 2004 02:24:37 PM |
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"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message news:40418e1b.232968340@ct-news.iafrica.com...
eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com (no) pouted:
[...]
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit. Mess with the world in your venom and froth. I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight. Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us. You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
ooo golly amy! Consider yourself well-and-twooly dissed! Oooohh.
wally
One day the great panjandrum will receive due payment in kind… lock,
stock and two smoking barrels. Though I fear for our collective
eardrums; the unhinged and demented screeching would likely put the
valkyries to flight.
You'd enjoy it though.
-Aim eeeeeeeeeee
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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29 Feb 2004 08:07:43 AM |
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Sorry, the formtting screwed up.
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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AmyCaton@GoFree.indigo.ie (Absolute Zero) wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
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Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm.
Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change
someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in
their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
I posted a reply twice. Each was different. But neither got through,
because of server error. I'll take that as a sign, since I am not
going to write another long reply and copy it and go through the whole
rigamarole again. Here is a shorter version three.
You waste way too much time debunking me.
Basically, I stated that of course I know of the roughness of the
spook world, and there's nothing like getting your own intel if you
can in a realm where trust is rare, and the UN is international
territory, and certainly GCHQ can do what the Russians and French did.
Could've fooled me.
(that you basically stated that, show me)
I've had to strangle it out of you.
This is not about Blair at all.
Agreed, It's about your lazy, wimpy, surrogate transference.
You wait in the weeds and snipe at Tony
Poor baby. Once upon a time, in a thread far away (bye bye fallacy), I
agreed that I'd only cane Tony when he hypocritically judged others.
The ONLY reason I'm still re-posting his shite is that he continues to
be a low-life, hypocritical scumbag. Nobody held a gun to his head and
forced him to post his hilarious cant at Dani re: Howard Stern, for
contemporaneous example. What do you expect?
Try to back horses in future, not three-legged nags. You should
re-read that thread. 100+ posts from you, defending the
indefensible... and subsequently proven wrongo! If not WRONGO!
and me in your quest to prove you are worthy as a prognosticator.
Nought relating to prognostication in this sub-thread. Though you'll
often dredge it up (out of nowhere) when your hand is looking feeble.
If you had any honor, you would post responsibly about the topic of
prophecies for six straight months. Then I might see that you are
truly worthy and have decent intent and intuition. But you are
incapable. Right, loon?
Dee.......................................... you are nuts.
Re-read the self-regarding, arrogant drivel that you've just written.
Who the ***** do you think you are? Being swept by delusions of
grandeur are we, eh?
Yes Master, I promise to post responsibly on the topic of prophecies
for the next six months... that you will see me as worthy. <walks
backwards, cowed, tugging at forelock>
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are worthless as a prognosticator. If you get 30-40% right in
guesses where average is 50%, you'd be lucky. I would trust Chief
Yellow Jacket's intuition before I trust yours, Miss Roadmap,
assassination of Abbas idiot.
Poor obsessed you. I make clear distinctions between opinions and
predictions. I indicate predictions as such... saying this is a marked
prediction. Did you see anything of the like with regard to the above?
No. You couldn't even figure out that Tony WAS Sonny Slingshot... why
would your powers of assessment be of any concern to me? You clearly
don't posses any.
If you want to attack the predictions I've made, fine, but you don't
get to decide what was and wasn't a prediction to suit yourself...
unless you are completely without honour?
This is YOUR obsession, not mine. Why is that? Why are you so
determined to "prove" little old me wrong, eh? This is of course a
rhetorical question; it's all too obvious why.
If you do something irresponsible to gain my attention, that's your
choice, dimwit.
You think I post to gain your attention? Get over yourself, solipsist.
You really are a paragon of self-regard, aren't you?
Mess with the world in your venom and froth.
Yes, I saw the latest in the long series of updates.. go to sleep.
You should make up your public mind, either I'm a worthless
prognosticator or a short-circuit risk to the future. In either case,
you're wrong.
I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY don't know how you've managed to drag this
kicking and screaming from espionage to prophecy. How did you do that
and why?
I will
trust Clare, and distrust you. Truly a scary sight when dingbats are
in flight.
Dingbats read "rogering Roget" as a threat, create utterly bizarre
contributions like the following...
"You can crap on the floor and paint that large pile of sht and
sprinkle it with sparkles and put tiny flags of all the nations around
it and spray deodorizer on it till the smell goes away and it dries.
But you wouldn't fool dogs which have a million times more sensitive
sense of smell than humans. Also people who visit your dwelling would
say look at the middle of your living room floor, that's beautiful all
decorated but I see a pile of sht in the middle; now that's original,
but why plant that there? Is that strange or what? Never mind that's
pretty."
You - Knowledgeable, yes... Interesting, yes... Dingbat,
abso-frickin-lutely.
Off to the kook file you go. Ciao.
You can keep me company, kook.
Go ahead, you get the last word between us.
Master-baiter. I have my doubts.
You snapped when you
responded. Snap again. You idiot.
Who knows when you snapped? Before my time probably.
Oh, btw, Clare has *just* been questioned on live TV by Jonathan
Dimbleby about whether the intel came from, ours or yours...
"Conceivably" - she had to admit (when asked whether it originated in
the US). Heehaw.
-A
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03 Mar 2004 10:30:00 PM |
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"Absolute Zero" <AmyCaton@GoFree.indigo.ie> wrote in message
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Sorry, the formtting screwed up.
Well at least your spew-checker worked.
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| User: "no" |
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28 Feb 2004 06:05:12 PM |
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(Absolute Zero) wrote in message news:<ad960a96.0402280056.4bf80df4@posting.google.com>...
"no" <eoe677677oeo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message
news:<c1jqbq$6sm$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it>...
Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to
decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm. Everything
is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change someone
will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Humbug, dream on... Has the UN building relocated to London? Do you
imagine MI6 has better comms surveillance in NY than the CIA in their
own backyard? Where do YOU think the transcripts came from?
So, you think MI6/GCHQ obtained these transcripts by their own hand..
nothing to do with your lilywhite lot? Answer please.
They outted a CIA agent who was a wife of a critic of Bush. Heck, I
know they play rough. But if you think the US provides transcripts all
around to the Russians and French as well, you're batty. MI6 is
perfectly capable of doing their own bugging. Clare seems to think so.
If it's a choice of believing you or Clare; forget it. you wouldn't
even get more credibility than Chief Yellow Jacket.
If the espionage services aren't doing this kind of thing, what are
they there for?
What, bugging Annan and the UN inspectors?
In the big, bad world, Dee, everyone is spying on everyone. Political,
diplomatic, military and industrial. Guess what? In the world of
grownups, everyone knows it.
Go Clare Short.
Ditto - but for different reasons. I'd like them to quit the
make-believe, stop treating us as though we were all as naive as you
*seem* to be. The more this is acknowledged the safer we'll be from
our own governments.
I never underestimate the thuggery of Bush, Blair, and Sharon. Now go
bother Peter. Really. Don't be a creep. Are you understanding? I don't
hate anyone, and certainly not you. I don't have time to play with you
though. Go ahead have the last word. And really, go bother Peter.
-A
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| User: "Grantland" |
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26 Feb 2004 07:55:04 PM |
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(no) wrote:
"pk" <pikaciu2004@tiscali.it> wrote in message news:<c1jqbq$6sm$1@lacerta.tiscalinet.it>...
Ok a lot of yes I am here and you are there.
I have a little test: this movie is just a last call for us to decide. Weeks
ahead are beginning to drive us in the eye of the storm. Everything is
beginning to pop-up. I bet that when things really change someone will
change his mind.
look at quakes and volcanoes. they are the sentinels
I hope they signal that Blair resigns. Go Clare Short.
Blair will never resign. He has little Jack Straw crooning sweet folly into his
head-prefect head, telling him how wonderful and infallible and Great he is.
Setting him up for a Tory win - the goal of the exercise. Then they can dump
the union jack and raise the star of David!! YES!
Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeeee!! Aaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeee!!!!
No but seriously though. I don't like the looks of Gordon Brghown! So who can
replace Blair? The lib-dems are a wishy-washy lot. FIND ME A (Lib-dem) *MAN*
(or woman) and I will OVRTHROW the rotten status quo. Done deal.
Grantland
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25 Feb 2004 06:14:02 AM |
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