The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
"The Americans must have no religion," Hashmiya Al-Abdulla, a
housewife in Baghdad said of the slaughter at the wedding. "Anyone
with religion cannot torture people, destroy mosques and homes, or
kill people at a wedding ceremony. They worship force, not God."
In Haditha, a small city northeast of Baghdad on the banks of the
Euphrates River, shop-owner Ali Zamhuir speaks of the consequences for
the United States. "U.S. companies will never be able to work in Iraq
after what their military has done here. The mujahideen will never
allow it."
U.S. actions seem to have improved the image of Saddam. "Even Saddam
wasn't as cruel as the Americans," said Tassin Awad in Haditha. "Even
he didn't torture like the Americans. Everyone in Haditha believes
Saddam was a criminal, but would prefer him over the Americans."
Iraqis are less than optimistic about the "transfer of sovereignty"
June 30.
"The Americans have fulfilled none of their promises," said Sa'adoun
Aziz, an unemployed construction worker. "Where is the rebuilding?"
Many people want Saddam back because the present situation is
terrible, he said. "After June 30 the oil, finance and trade
ministries will remain in the hands of the Americans, and we will have
no army of our own."
Aziz pointed across the Euphrates to a damaged electricity tower.
"This is freedom."
At his home in Haditha, Hammed Abdulla believes the attack on the
wedding party was intentional. "The Americans are provoking people on
purpose to get a reaction," he said. "Iraq is sitting on top of a
volcano."
He added angrily, "I would like to see Mr. Bush and tell him that
Saddam is better than he is."
Schoolteacher Mohammed al-Hakim said "the Americans are speaking of
freedom and democracy while they are the cruelest, most brutal army
ever."
Sitting nearby, an unemployed school manager too says June 30 will
bring no change. "They will not pull out after June 30," he said. "But
the Americans cannot control Iraq. America promises so many things,
but they have fulfilled none of them."
Several men and women around him nodded in agreement as he spoke.
"They promised prosperity, yet they have destroyed everything. They
shot up the wedding party because they are the terrorists."
One man added, "They said they would bring real freedom, but we see
our people tortured in prison, looted, and their homes raided."
Daily attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq remain high, and many Iraqis
believe this number will only increase as June 30 approaches.
The highway through the desert to Haditha bears several scars from
improvised explosive devices that have detonated under U.S. military
vehicles patrolling the area. They are only one sign of Iraqi anger
with U.S. forces.
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23 May 2004 08:28:27 AM |
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In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>, wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
Woods
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| User: "Jane" |
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23 May 2004 10:31:38 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>,
wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you
getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
Woods
I've been hearing both sides. You know, Woods, no matter who is correct,
most people will take sides against the US...if it was a wedding party (and
I have my doubts), it certainly seems to have been a well-armed one!
Jane
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23 May 2004 06:48:10 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2t3sc.2635$sr3.60134@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>,
wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you
getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
Woods
I've been hearing both sides. You know, Woods, no matter who is correct,
most people will take sides against the US...if it was a wedding party (and
I have my doubts), it certainly seems to have been a well-armed one!
Jane
Yes but look where they live, when in Rome, buy a bigger cannon!
LB
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23 May 2004 04:23:14 PM |
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In article <2t3sc.2635$sr3.60134@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>,
wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you
getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
Woods
I've been hearing both sides. You know, Woods, no matter who is correct,
most people will take sides against the US...if it was a wedding party (and
I have my doubts), it certainly seems to have been a well-armed one!
I don't know what to believe at this point. I know that it's customary to fire
rifles into the air at Iraqi weddings, as this has been reported several times
on US news. I don't generally believe the stuff spewing out of
terrorist/insurgents mouths, but we've been lied to so many times in the past 3
years that I can't really believe what the government says without evidence,
either.
Man, I can't wait for Bush to get booted out of office!!!
Woods
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23 May 2004 04:55:39 PM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>, wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
(difficult to trust anyone these days)
Apparently there was a wedding ceremony on videotape, according to the
AP :
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/lateststories/index.ssf?/base/international-14/1085348063181451.xml
Woods
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23 May 2004 08:22:27 PM |
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"christisdore" <christisdore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f6a87778.0405231355.7d30f9e7@posting.google.com...
woodswun@tepidmail.com (Woodswun) wrote in message
news:<%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>, wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
(difficult to trust anyone these days)
Apparently there was a wedding ceremony on videotape, according to the
AP :
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/lateststories/index.ssf?/base/international-14/1085348063181451.xml
Probably staged.
Woods
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23 May 2004 05:15:58 PM |
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In article <f6a87778.0405231355.7d30f9e7@posting.google.com>, (christisdore) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com (Woodswun) wrote in message
news:<%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>, wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you
getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
(difficult to trust anyone these days)
Apparently there was a wedding ceremony on videotape, according to the
AP :
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/lateststories/index.ssf?/base/international-14/
1085348063181451.xml
Darn. That's really not good for the US, and is horrible for the victims.
I'd say it's bad intel, probably deliberate.
Woods
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23 May 2004 06:05:42 PM |
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There were probably suspected insurgents in the wedding party and they went
after them while they were all in the same locale. Sad part is there were more
innocent people who lost their lives and will never again get to enjoy this
world. And to think that this was all done in the name of Liberty!!!
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23 May 2004 09:22:10 AM |
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In article <%F1sc.76540$hY.6480@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Woodswun
<woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote:
In article <3d71b0d211ddofe6h37ak1t03lam5qiuka@4ax.com>, wrote:
The Picture Gets Worse
By Dahr Jamail
5-22-4
Two pictures put up in an internet café in Baghdad make for a vivid
statement of how Iraqis have come to see U.S. occupiers.
One shows a woman in the United States hugging her dog. A second shows
a hooded Iraqi prisoner sitting on the ground, hands tied behind his
back. A soldier holds a gun to his head.
The picture seems to get worse in Iraq every day, and it also gets
worse for the United States in Iraq.
Iraqis are incensed already over widespread damage caused by U.S.
military operations to their mosques both in Fallujah and southern
Iraq, and by the photographs documenting torture in Abu Ghraib prison.
Now the killing of 40 wedding guests, mostly women and children, in a
military helicopter attack, have enraged people further.
We're hearing that was no wedding party the US attacked. Where are you
getting
your reports from that state otherwise?
Woods
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1220440,00.html>
I've read a couple of German, French, Dutch and British reports about
the case
--
Are you part of the problem?
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25 May 2004 07:11:13 AM |
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:59:55 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.net> wrote:
Uncontrolled American media.
Exactly. Unlike Canada, our media is NOT controlled.
Hahhahahaha ROFLMAO!!!!! Americunt media not controlled?
Hahahahahahahaha. That was a good one. I need another beer.
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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25 May 2004 09:58:09 AM |
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<Zak@home.com> wrote in message news:1td6b0hmuc90t5csmegm373066v3m8nphe@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:59:55 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.net> wrote:
Uncontrolled American media.
Exactly. Unlike Canada, our media is NOT controlled.
Hahhahahaha ROFLMAO!!!!! Americunt media not controlled?
Hahahahahahahaha. That was a good one. I need another beer.
I believe you've already had enough, Mr Korsakoff.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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25 May 2004 05:01:06 PM |
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wrote in message news:<1td6b0hmuc90t5csmegm373066v3m8nphe@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:59:55 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.net> wrote:
Uncontrolled American media.
Exactly. Unlike Canada, our media is NOT controlled.
Show me a media company, on this planet that does not run an agenda,
whether it be govt spin or it's own version, they certainly are not
unbiased, that is why bloggers are so popular.
LB
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