The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training, meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life (like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS majik.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
07 Oct 2004 09:05:25 AM |
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"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training, meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "WhiteWicca" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
19 Oct 2004 08:06:38 AM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
To put it plainly -- the stars *incline*, they do not compel, as you seem to
illustrate.
WW
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
20 Oct 2004 03:53:25 AM |
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"WhiteWicca" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:yj8dd.10777$Rf1.3749@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Kind regards,
Barbarossa
To put it plainly -- the stars *incline*, they do not compel, as you seem
to
illustrate.
So what star sign am I then? I'll give you 6 guesses..
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
07 Oct 2004 08:04:33 PM |
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In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training, meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by "other"
rather than our own ideals.
Woods
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
07 Oct 2004 08:58:10 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon, sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
08 Oct 2004 08:16:10 AM |
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon, sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
08 Oct 2004 06:28:46 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> schreef in bericht
news:42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping
up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
Sagittarius according to old astrology or Sagittarius according to
astrologers
who implement the precession of the Earth?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
11 Oct 2004 04:29:37 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 01:28:46 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> schreef in bericht
news:42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping
up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
Sagittarius according to old astrology or Sagittarius according to
astrologers
who implement the precession of the Earth?
Say what? When I refer to Sagittarius or Gemini, or any of the signs,
I'm referring to the commonly accepted time frame for those signs.
It's irrelevant however - if my starsign was different due to some
other method of determining it, then everyone else's would also be
different. What I've described above is merely an observation -
nowhere in astrology does it specify that a Gemini should be blond
with blue or green eyes, and that a Sagittarius should have darker
hair with brown eyes. This is what I've observed during my time on
Earth having had many different friends and aquaintances and comparing
them to each other - there is no way to refute it with technicalities
about starsigns. Technically, my observations wouldn't have anything
to do with starsigns if I didn't know about them - I would be
classifying them under birth months instead of starsigns.
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
11 Oct 2004 06:58:01 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> schreef in bericht
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 01:28:46 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> schreef in bericht
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5
/pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5
PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated,
conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame
the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at
a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the
cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans
and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets,
moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there
lapping
up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced
by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot
stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start
to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe.
Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize
that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for
such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big
bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
Sagittarius according to old astrology or Sagittarius according to
astrologers
who implement the precession of the Earth?
Say what? When I refer to Sagittarius or Gemini, or any of the signs,
I'm referring to the commonly accepted time frame for those signs.
It's irrelevant however - if my starsign was different due to some
other method of determining it, then everyone else's would also be
different. What I've described above is merely an observation -
nowhere in astrology does it specify that a Gemini should be blond
with blue or green eyes, and that a Sagittarius should have darker
hair with brown eyes. This is what I've observed during my time on
Earth having had many different friends and aquaintances and comparing
them to each other - there is no way to refute it with technicalities
about starsigns. Technically, my observations wouldn't have anything
to do with starsigns if I didn't know about them - I would be
classifying them under birth months instead of starsigns.
Many astrologers think that I am sagittarius due to my birthday, but when
I checked they were all wrong. When I was born the star Antares of
Scorpio was in conjunction with the sun and the sun was well within the
borders of Scorpio. Most astrologers don't correct their data with the
25,000 years cycle of the precession movement of the Earth. Which implies
that about every 2000 years the equinoxes and solstiums change from
zodiacal sign. Because most astrologers don't correct for the precession
movement their horoscopes and the rest is utter meaningless *****. At
this moment the spring-equinoxe is moving slowly towards the sign of
Aquarius and around the year 2600 AD we will enter the Aquarius era.
If I reincarnate in about 1000 years at the same date in November as I
have done now I shall not be a Scorpio but a Libra.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "WhiteWicca" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
19 Oct 2004 08:06:44 AM |
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Cuan
Judging from your relationship preferences, one can claim you sound like a
Leo. Of course, not knowing your moon or rising, one can be wrong.
WW
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping
up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
19 Oct 2004 09:02:13 AM |
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"WhiteWicca" <none@none.com> schreef in bericht
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Cuan
Judging from your relationship preferences, one can claim you sound like a
Leo. Of course, not knowing your moon or rising, one can be wrong.
WW
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5
/pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame
the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the
cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there
lapping
up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced
by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot
stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start
to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe.
Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
Selffullfillinging prophecies. You figure out the sign of a person you meet
and
you immediately, perhaps even unconsciously, produce either reservations or
enthousiasm in your own system. Does not prove a thing.
Those constellations are not for real, they are just groups of stars very
far
away from Earth. If we had to invent names for those constellations today
we would come up with names like Elvis Presley for Orion, Radiotelescope
when looking at Leo. We would have a constellation named Fridge.
If the sky has such an influence on us we can no longer convict criminals
as the sky did it. So, in the name of astrology, set all prisoners free!
Why can twins have totally different lives and meeting totally different
people and enjoying them? Why does one die young and the other
living long? The sky was the same when they were born. Twins prove
that the sky has no influence at all.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
08 Oct 2004 12:49:48 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon, sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will,
same here
not
unless you allow it to.
yep.
Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
very nice job ;)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
he he...Is that what the soothsayer charge ya ;)
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
08 Oct 2004 05:54:55 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5
/pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame
the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the
cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there
lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced
by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot
stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start
to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe.
Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will,
same here
not
unless you allow it to.
yep.
Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
You either have a free will or your life is determined by celestial objects.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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11 Oct 2004 04:33:04 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 00:54:55 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:dd3256f0.0410080949.5cf0b38e@posting.google.com...
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:<42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in
life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5
/pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted
or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some
constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame
the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles
that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the
cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people
were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon,
sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there
lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced
by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot
stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one
will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start
to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe.
Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a
lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing
utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will,
same here
not
unless you allow it to.
yep.
Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
You either have a free will or your life is determined by celestial objects.
Choices choices...
Celestial objects don't determine your life, but theoretically, they
determine your characteristics. You do have a free will. Every
decision you make is made by yourself. The type of decisions you make
depends on your characteristics or personality.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
11 Oct 2004 04:34:49 AM |
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On 8 Oct 2004 10:49:48 -0700, (Michael Johnathan
McDonald) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<42vcm0d60075uc6n688t6tkto2f0e6jkbs@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon, sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will,
same here
not
unless you allow it to.
yep.
Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
very nice job ;)
My $255.64 worth. :-)
he he...Is that what the soothsayer charge ya ;)
Maybe if she was in the USA. ;-)
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: The REAL Ascendant |
08 Oct 2004 01:28:29 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:16:10 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 03:58:10 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:BIl9d.3496$l07.2787@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
In article <41654cc0$0$14256$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Barbarossa"
<fa073505@skynet.be> wrote:
"Sedna" <sedna@arbornet.org> schreef in bericht
news:c5915b7a.0410070413.7a798290@posting.google.com...
The TRUE natal ascendant is important in your occult training,
meditation
(setting the time for meditation), as well as all occurences in life
(like
marriage). You can get to know your TRUE ASCENDANT using IAU
compatible
astrology. We corrected Nostradamus, we can guide you into true
astrology.
http://puck.dhs.org /ng.html /iau /28 /nu /extra /reports /o5 /pcs
Learn how to CHANGE future, instead of just predicting it! O5 PCS
majik.
Astrology is a fraud business. If my life is orchestrated, conducted or
determined by some planets, the moon and the sun in some constellations
why would I bother? I could do the most horrible things and blame the
sky!
Astrology is also condemned by the Bible
Well, *cough* according to Cayce, the soul chooses to incarnate at a
particular
time and place, and astrology is merely an indication of the cycles that
the
universe goes through. Free Will makes the choice, whereas the cycles
influence
us. Same as when we went through the 60s, 70s and 80s - some people were
hippies in the 60s, not all; some people lusted after label jeans and
beemers in
the 80s, but not all. See?
Free Will already implies that astrology is *****. If planets, moon, sun
and
constellation deliberately influence me then I have no free will.
Your choice of becoming a hippy or choose a type of jeans is totally
determined by biological laws. The way you are in life is determined
by your genes and your environment and has nothing to do with some
planet in some constellation on a certain time.
I mean, all you have to do is look at all the sheeple out there lapping up
all
the ads on TV and stuff to know that we're way too easily influenced by
"other"
rather than our own ideals.
Which is different from stars, constellations, planets, moon and sun.
See, the problem with a lot of people is that they actually cannot stand
being so minute like an ant and that in million years from now no one will
ever talk about them. Most people cannot live with that idea and start to
make things up to become more important in this vast universe. Astrology
is just one of those made up things. Nothing more and nothing less. It
feels good when somebody tells you that you're so important that even
Jupiter wishes to influence you. That feels better than to realize that
you're
no more than an ant. People are actually so stupid to even pay for such
utter crap as astrology, tarotreading, paranormal blah blah blah and a lot
of other nonsense.
What is even more hilarious is that many people know that other people
want to feel important, so they come with this crap and make big bucks!
Isn't it totally laughable? People are so easily fooled into believing utter
*****.
I am just minute, only my Creator is huge and vast. To think otherwise
in any way or form is just vanity and arrogance.
I don't necessarily think that astrology removes your free will, not
unless you allow it to. Real astrology (not horroscopes) is used as a
guide to determining your outlook, your self-esteem, your passion,
your romantic ideals, the nature of your imagination, sprituality etc.
Essentially, it can help you to help yourself.
Another misinterpretation is that the planets or the constellations
have deistic qualities, whereby they actually watch over you. That,
as you stated above, is *****. That is more
Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc. mythology more than astrology. I think of
it more along the lines of gravitational and electro-magnetic
influences which may have an influence on a person's personality. We
know that the Sun has an influence over comets which traverse our
local group way beyond the orbitals of our solar system's own
cellestial bodies. Therefore, one could argue too that there are
similar forces in play from foreign galaxies and stars. Indeed,
Andromeda and the Milky Way are on a collision course with each other,
yet our two galaxies are a whopping 2.5M light years apart. It should
be remembered that the human brain functions use electical impulses
too. It's all a theory (as usual), however. ;-)
Nonetheless, I've noticed over the years that people originating from
the same starsign tend to exhibit more similar qualities than people
from alternative starsigns. I've noticed that most people born in my
month tend to have similar personalities and in most cases, even
appearances (hair colour, eye colour, etc.), whereas people born in
the month after me, but still in my starsign often seem to have darker
hair, the same colour eyes and very similar personalities too. Then,
if I look at Sagittarius which is on the opposite side of the wheel to
me, I find a strikingly similar personality to my own, usually brown
eyes (unlike my own), and often dark hair unlike mine (but that isn't
always the case).
Needless to say, the people I thoroughly enjoy being around are Gemini
and Sagittarius. The people who I tend to be good friends with are
Capricorns and Taurus, and to a lesser extent, Scorpio and Cancer. My
'Ex' is a Pisces though (go figure). Important to note, however, is
that I arrived at those conclusions by befriending first, and
discovering starsigns later, as opposed to discovering starsigns first
and befriending later - the free will concept. ;-)
Hey, Cuan - I agree. So many times I've been dismissed when I talk
about how I *do* have many of the attributes described in my sign.
I'm a Capricorn .. this is what they say about me:
"Within prescribed areas, Capricorn is a resourceful, practical
manager. These folks set high standards for themselves and others.
They are self critical, and work well in a disciplined environment,
demanding equal measure from their subordinates. A careful, ambitious
planner, Capricorn moves forward with quiet, deliberate persistence.
They can be frugal, possessing the ability to achieve results with
minimum effort and expense. Highly organized, they excel in managing
several projects simultaneously.
Capricorn will often vie for a position of authority. Once attaining
control, they are demanding and exacting in leadership. Although firm,
they are usually fair to people they deal with. They value tradition,
the tried and true, more than innovation. "We always do it this way,"
was no doubt first said by a Capricorn. Their naturally pessimistic
nature explains their wry sense of humor, which some think is no humor
at all. They can spread gloom and tension in a minute and are quite
capable of depressing everyone else around them. Never really up, but
often down, they need a positive environment to enliven their spirits.
Capricorns tend to be profound thinkers. To them life is a serious
business, and the need to be in control of it is paramount.. They are
seekers after knowledge and wisdom. Rational, logical and clearheaded,
they have excellent concentration, and delight in all forms of debate.
In personal relationships they tend to be uncomfortable. Rather
self-centered, they are wary and suspicious of others. They often have
few close friends, but will maintain these bonds their entire life.
They are loyal to intimates, but indifferent and sometimes callous to
those outside their circle. Never impetuous, they consider business
and personal relationships carefully before becoming involved. These
are family people, and family usually comes first, except | | | | | |