The Real Enemy Staring Us in the Face
By BOB HERBERT
Published: July 12, 2004
Columnist Page: Bob Herbert
Justin Hunt, a young man from Wildomar, Calif., about 75 miles east of
Los Angeles, was determined to join the Marines. When recruiters
pointed out that he was grossly overweight, he spent a year losing
more than 150 pounds. Then he signed up and was promptly sent to Iraq,
where he was killed last Tuesday in an explosion. He was 22.
:{bwahahahahahahahaha!}
Three American soldiers, not yet publicly identified, were killed
yesterday in two separate attacks on military patrols north of
Baghdad. On Saturday four marines were killed in a vehicle accident
near Falluja. And five more American soldiers were killed Thursday in
a mortar attack on a base in the Sunni-dominated city of Samarra.
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Even as these brave troops were dying in the cruel and bloody environs
of Iraq, the Senate Intelligence Committee in Washington was unfurling
its damning unanimous report about the incredibly incompetent
intelligence that the Bush administration used to justify this awful
war.
The bipartisan committee, headed by Republican Senator Pat Roberts,
declared that the key intelligence assessments trumpeted by President
Bush as the main reasons for invading Iraq were unfounded.
Nearly 900 G.I.'s and more than 10,000 Iraqi civilians have already
perished, and there is no end to the war in sight. The situation is
both sorrowful and disorienting. The colossal intelligence failures
and the willful madness of the administration, which presented war as
the first and only policy option, can leave you with the terrible
feeling that you're standing at the graveside of common sense and
reasonable behavior.
A government with even a nodding acquaintance with competence and good
sense would have launched an all-out war against Al Qaeda, not Iraq,
in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11. After all, it was Al Qaeda,
not Iraq, that carried out the sneak attack on American soil that
destroyed the World Trade Center and part of the Pentagon and killed
3,000 people.
:{proof?}
You might think that would have been enough to provoke
an all-out response from the U.S. Instead we saved our best shot for
the demented and already checkmated dictator of Iraq, Saddam Hussein.
Bin Laden and Al Qaeda must have gotten a good laugh out of that. Now
they're planning to come at us again. On Thursday, the same day Iraqi
insurgents killed the five G.I.'s in Samarra, the Bush administration
disclosed that bin Laden and his lieutenants, believed to be operating
from hideouts along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, were directing an
effort by Al Qaeda to unleash an encore attack against the United
States.
According to Tom Ridge, the homeland security secretary, the latest
effort may well be timed to disrupt the fall elections.
If that happens, I wonder if we'll finally get serious about the war
we should be fighting against bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Maybe not. Based
on the impenetrable logic of the president and his advisers, a new
strike by Al Qaeda might lead us to start a war with, say, Iran, or
Syria.
If we know that bin Laden and his top leadership are somewhere along
the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, and that they're plotting an attack
against the United States, why are we not zeroing in on them with
overwhelming force? Why is there not a sense of emergency in the land,
with the entire country pulling together to stop another Sept. 11 from
occurring?
Why are we not more serious about this?
I don't know what the administration was thinking when it invaded Iraq
even as the direct threat from bin Laden and Al Qaeda continued to
stare us in the face. That threat has only intensified. The war in
Iraq consumed personnel and resources badly needed in the campaign
against bin Laden and his allies. And it has fanned the hatred of the
U.S. among Muslims around the world. Instead of destroying Al Qaeda,
we have played right into its hands and contributed immeasurably to
its support.
Most current intelligence analysts agree with Secretary Ridge that Al
Qaeda will try before long to strike the U.S. mainland once again.
We've trained most of our guns on the wrong foe. The real enemy is
sneaking up behind us. Again. The price to be paid for not recognizing
this could be devastating.
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| User: "Journey Man" |
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13 Jul 2004 04:49:05 PM |
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"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shock. You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent, and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you are
is simply mindboggling.
It was all about the oil, fool.
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| User: "Grantland" |
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13 Jul 2004 10:57:12 PM |
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"Journey Man" <dontask@shaw.ca> stuttered repeatedly:
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
Still sniffing yo momma's yeast, eh retard? <grins>
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shock.
Gee wollikkans! You mean it was nothing to do with WMD or deposing
evil dictators or tewwowist-links or democracy-dominos or simple love
for the oppress-ed Eyeracki peoples?? Golly gee! Whatever will they
come up with next? Sheesh! Oil you say? Grand Theft Imperialism?
Well *that's* a good excuse!
You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Wrong there butt. Those guys are retarded drooling morons. I speak
only the truth and nothing but.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent, and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you are
is simply mindboggling.
It was all about the oil, fool.
Ah well I see now. Stealing stuff through brutish force. Gangster
stuff. I should of knowed. Thanx.
Grantland
ps Hey why don't you lose 150 pounds so we can blow your fat pig
trotters all over the sidewalks of Baghdad? LOLOLOL!! Fucking PIGS!
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| User: "Dani" |
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14 Jul 2004 01:20:20 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 03:57:12 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
"Journey Man" <dontask@shaw.ca> stuttered repeatedly:
"Grantland" < > wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
Still sniffing yo momma's yeast, eh retard? <grins>
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shock.
Gee wollikkans!
LOL!
You mean it was nothing to do with WMD
Nothing whatsoever.
or deposing
evil dictators or tewwowist-links or democracy-dominos
Nope.
or simple love
for the oppress-ed Eyeracki peoples??
I'd love to think so.. but with all the other needy people that need
us, can't really say that's the case now can I!!!!!!!!!
Golly gee! Whatever will they
come up with next? Sheesh! Oil you say? Grand Theft Imperialism?
Well *that's* a good excuse!
You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Wrong there butt. Those guys are retarded drooling morons. I speak
only the truth and nothing but.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent, and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you are
is simply mindboggling.
It was all about the oil, fool.
Ah well I see now. Stealing stuff through brutish force. Gangster
stuff. I should of knowed. Thanx.
Grantland
ps Hey why don't you lose 150 pounds so we can blow your fat pig
trotters all over the sidewalks of Baghdad? LOLOLOL!! Fucking PIGS!
The Soldiers were the VICTIMS also Grantland.
Dani
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| User: "Grantland" |
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17 Jul 2004 04:21:39 PM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:
ps Hey why don't you lose 150 pounds so we can blow your fat pig
trotters all over the sidewalks of Baghdad? LOLOLOL!! Fucking PIGS!
The Soldiers were the VICTIMS also Grantland.
Dani
From: "Al Gui Darwin" <darwin+usenet@spamcop.net>
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:59:41 -0500, RoyDMercer
<pondscum_31NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
[..]
Actually the sentence was very poorly written. In order to be clear, the
author should have written, "American soldiers filmed young male
prisoners being sodomised." which is what he meant.
The Taguba Report refers a case where an American translator sodomized
an young Iraqi boy, while another American, a soldier girl, was
filming the act.
What is your problem accepting this?
--
-darwin-
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| User: "Dani" |
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19 Jul 2004 02:28:24 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:21:39 GMT, (Grantland)
wrote:
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:
ps Hey why don't you lose 150 pounds so we can blow your fat pig
trotters all over the sidewalks of Baghdad? LOLOLOL!! Fucking PIGS!
The Soldiers were the VICTIMS also Grantland.
Dani
From: "Al Gui Darwin" <darwin+usenet@spamcop.net>
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:59:41 -0500, RoyDMercer
<pondscum_31NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
[..]
Actually the sentence was very poorly written. In order to be clear, the
author should have written, "American soldiers filmed young male
prisoners being sodomised." which is what he meant.
The Taguba Report refers a case where an American translator sodomized
an young Iraqi boy, while another American, a soldier girl, was
filming the act.
What is your problem accepting this?
I know about the abusers and I've stated my disgust. What I mean by
they were victims too, is that they were sent over there to fight and
risk their lives over non-existant WMD. They had the good intention
in their heart, and of course felt they were doing the "right thing"
when the whole premise for war was built on a lie.
You'll find disgusting horrible people in *all* groups (those sadistic
pricks that tortured the prisoners for example..) but you can't tell
me that there weren't and aren't so many Soldiers that are determined,
and adament and impressionable and "live for the cause" and are brave
and courageous. They were victims of the administration in my eyes
too.
Dani
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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19 Jul 2004 05:44:51 AM |
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Dani
wrote:
but you can't tell
me that there weren't and aren't so many Soldiers that are determined,
and adament and impressionable and "live for the cause" and are brave
and courageous. They were victims of >the administration in my eyes too
Dani
You are so fucking clueless as to be retarded.
People like you should not be allowed to vote, you are clueless with regards to
the issues, the world, and all of its dangers.
Letting people like you vote endangers us all.
Tony
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| User: "Dani" |
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20 Jul 2004 01:00:12 PM |
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On 19 Jul 2004 10:44:51 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
wrote:
but you can't tell
me that there weren't and aren't so many Soldiers that are determined,
and adament and impressionable and "live for the cause" and are brave
and courageous. They were victims of the administration in my eyes too
Dani
You are so fucking clueless as to be retarded.
Alright simpleton.. I'll use an example since you're braindead:
Say there's a neighbor of yours that you really don't like. You make
up a story about him and get all the tough young men around you
to believe the lie that this man has all kinds of weapons that are an
imminent threat to them and their families.. you know it's a lie but
you want this man taken out no matter what it costs. So you get these
guys to do your dirty work for you and they end up getting killed.
They were victims of your lie.
People like you should not be allowed to vote, you are clueless with regards to
the issues, the world, and all of its dangers.
Thank God there are people like me who are voting. Not just for
America - but for the world.
Letting people like you vote endangers us all.
Believe me - my vote will contribute to *getting rid* of some
of the dangers currently in this world.
You on the other hand may as well be blind deaf and dumb when you cast
your vote.
Dani
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| User: "Two Trick Pony" |
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14 Jul 2004 06:54:35 PM |
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You know, for a bitter little cynic, you sure are one bloody naive one-man
freakshow.
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f4a985.422491590@ct-news.iafrica.com...
"Journey Man" <dontask@shaw.ca> stuttered repeatedly:
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
Still sniffing yo momma's yeast, eh retard? <grins>
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shock.
Gee wollikkans! You mean it was nothing to do with WMD or deposing
evil dictators or tewwowist-links or democracy-dominos or simple love
for the oppress-ed Eyeracki peoples?? Golly gee! Whatever will they
come up with next? Sheesh! Oil you say? Grand Theft Imperialism?
Well *that's* a good excuse!
You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists
blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Wrong there butt. Those guys are retarded drooling morons. I speak
only the truth and nothing but.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent,
and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you
are
is simply mindboggling.
It was all about the oil, fool.
Ah well I see now. Stealing stuff through brutish force. Gangster
stuff. I should of knowed. Thanx.
Grantland
ps Hey why don't you lose 150 pounds so we can blow your fat pig
trotters all over the sidewalks of Baghdad? LOLOLOL!! Fucking PIGS!
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| User: "Journey Man" |
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13 Jul 2004 04:49:05 PM |
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"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shocking surprise. You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent, and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you are
is simply mindboggling.
It's the oil, fool.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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14 Jul 2004 08:04:40 AM |
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Funny how "Journey man" never posted here and all of a sudden appears to
bash me. This often happen, Dr. Blunt was one of these. Of course he is
someone else who posts here.
Always the same losers who take up some new nick, and are obsessed by me
debunking their kind and pretend to be causual posters.
You can kiss my *****, loser.
J.
Journey Man a écrit:
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40f3f9d8.377518793@ct-news.iafrica.com...
For what?
:For Israel, fool.
Still spouting your anti-semitic rantings eh dipshit?
That the very notion that it was all about America securing the world's
second largest proven oil reserves never even crossed your tiny little
hateful mind comes as no great shocking surprise. You're in the very same
league as Jean Guernon and Tony Z, albeit 180 degrees opposite in
viewpoints, and that's no compliment pal. You're all blatant racists blinded
by your collective hatreds without even the remotest scintilla of
intelligence, insight or knowledge on any given subject matter.
Why ignoramuses like you even bother posting your puerile, impertinent, and
venomous diatribes to others who recognize you guys for who and what you are
is simply mindboggling.
It's the oil, fool.
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| User: "Two Trick Pony" |
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14 Jul 2004 06:51:38 PM |
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Wrong again, Guano boy. Perhaps you'll remember my similar nick
journeyman36, or twotrickpony maybe.
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:IbaJc.717963$ef4.89347@news.easynews.com...
Funny how "Journey man" never posted here and all of a sudden appears to
bash me. This often happen, Dr. Blunt was one of these. Of course he is
someone else who posts here.
Always the same losers who take up some new nick, and are obsessed by me
debunking their kind and pretend to be causual posters.
You can kiss my *****, loser.
Ooooh, somebody hold me. Maybe I ought to go drown myself now.
Dan
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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13 Jul 2004 10:25:33 AM |
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Out of all your sick posts, Grant, this one is near the top.
Tony
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| User: "Cuan" |
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15 Jul 2004 04:56:39 AM |
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On 13 Jul 2004 15:25:33 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Out of all your sick posts, Grant, this one is near the top.
is that a nod of agreement then?
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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15 Jul 2004 05:39:13 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:56:39 +0200, Cuan overjoyed me with this news:
On 13 Jul 2004 15:25:33 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Out of all your sick posts, Grant, this one is near the top.
is that a nod of agreement then?
Yeah ... Tony Al Wassabbi might have to hand over the Title Belt to him ..
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