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User: "Aidan"
Date: 15 Feb 2005 06:29:55 PM
Object: The reasoning... and the apology
First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:
I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.
That said:
How does it feel to be powerless? Being at the mercy of someone you feel is
a threat to you? You should think twice about issuing threats in public
forums... You'll find that there will be bystanders, like me, who take
offence to your brand of intimidation, even when it's not directed at them.
People have limits, and as you found out yesterday, you just never know when
someone will reach theirs. I don't expect you to apologise to the people
who have been the subject of your stand-over tactics, as it would be forced
and worth nothing (a few have already said this), but I do expect you to
treat people how you would like to be treated. Don't issue threats you
couldn't handle happening to yourself.
I could care less about my personal details being posted to this forum...
why? Because I don't feel I've alienated myself from the world... You on
the other hand have, and fear for your safety because you promote your
hateful opinions here... I don't want to infringe on your right to
free-speech, but man... you really ought to think about the consequences of
your actions before you carry them out. You obviously have a pretty good
idea of the anger you inflame, or you wouldn't be so freaked by all this...
if you were rational about expressing your views, maybe you wouldn't have
the situation you have now: everyone steadying themselves, waiting to
pounce on every blundered line you type.
To end it with a cliche: Let this be a lesson to you....
P.S. Do keep us posted on the progress of your legal recourse...
.

User: ""

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 17 Feb 2005 09:58:49 AM

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:
I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.

Apology accepted, but what have you done to reverse the damage alreay
done?

That said:
How does it feel to be powerless?

I'm not.

Being at the mercy of someone you feel is
a threat to you? You should think twice about issuing threats in public
forums... You'll find that there will be bystanders, like me, who take
offence to your brand of intimidation, even when it's not directed at them.
People have limits, and as you found out yesterday, you just never know when
someone will reach theirs. I don't expect you to apologise to the people
who have been the subject of your stand-over tactics, as it would be forced
and worth nothing (a few have already said this), but I do expect you to
treat people how you would like to be treated. Don't issue threats you
couldn't handle happening to yourself.

I never attack first, ny attacks are always done after I have been
threatened in some fashion.

I could care less about my personal details being posted to this forum...
why? Because I don't feel I've alienated myself from the world... You on
the other hand have, and fear for your safety because you promote your
hateful opinions here... I don't want to infringe on your right to
free-speech, but man... you really ought to think about the consequences of
your actions before you carry them out. You obviously have a pretty good
idea of the anger you inflame, or you wouldn't be so freaked by all this...
if you were rational about expressing your views, maybe you wouldn't have
the situation you have now: everyone steadying themselves, waiting to
pounce on every blundered line you type.
To end it with a cliche: Let this be a lesson to you....

Hmmmm, what kind of apology is that?
Tony
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 17 Feb 2005 04:59:28 PM
<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1108655881.ff67e8fec792f0cdfab4ccea9c1dcfa2@teranews...

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:


I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was
wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.


Apology accepted, but what have you done to reverse the damage alreay
done?

What's to do? The can is open, the worms are everywhere. You've made
yourself a target. Not me.

That said:


How does it feel to be powerless?


I'm not.

LOL
You sat on your chair saying (paraphrase) "I'm serious, I will have my
retribution against those who don't bow to my will"
Apart from a few auto-responded messages from Susan's ISP, telling you to
take it up with the cops and leave them alone, what power are you wielding?
I'd would say you seem to be flailing flaccidly about, issuing phsyical and
frivolous legal threats willy-nilly.

Being at the mercy of someone you feel is
a threat to you? You should think twice about issuing threats in public
forums... You'll find that there will be bystanders, like me, who take
offence to your brand of intimidation, even when it's not directed at
them.
People have limits, and as you found out yesterday, you just never know
when
someone will reach theirs. I don't expect you to apologise to the people
who have been the subject of your stand-over tactics, as it would be
forced
and worth nothing (a few have already said this), but I do expect you to
treat people how you would like to be treated. Don't issue threats you
couldn't handle happening to yourself.


I never attack first, ny attacks are always done after I have been
threatened in some fashion.

Not from my point of view... I see you, on a regular basis, claim that you
will have retribution in some real life fashion. If you can't handle some
real life retribution yourself, then you shouldn't threaten to dish it out.
Post my details here, I couldn't care less... infact I'll even give you
clues if you really want me to. I'm not threatened by what might happen.
You can claim the moral high horse all you want, but we all know what kinds
of ill ***** you promote on usenet, and if those posts have left you feeling
vulnerable, then who's fault is that?
You've made yourself a target. Not me.

I could care less about my personal details being posted to this forum...
why? Because I don't feel I've alienated myself from the world... You on
the other hand have, and fear for your safety because you promote your
hateful opinions here... I don't want to infringe on your right to
free-speech, but man... you really ought to think about the consequences
of
your actions before you carry them out. You obviously have a pretty good
idea of the anger you inflame, or you wouldn't be so freaked by all
this...
if you were rational about expressing your views, maybe you wouldn't have
the situation you have now: everyone steadying themselves, waiting to
pounce on every blundered line you type.


To end it with a cliche: Let this be a lesson to you....


Hmmmm, what kind of apology is that?

It's an apology for bringing your family into this, as they didn't deserve
it. You on the other hand, get no sympathy, as it's routine for you to
issue the kinds of threats that I carried out on you.
If you want to know, this is how I found the details:
- You spoke about the Coptic Christian murder in your area. Search for the
news item, and bam, I know you live in NJ
- You've posted your last name on several occasions
- Your first name is obvious, and I had a quick search of the google archive
to verify your wife's apparent name
- Armed with this information, I traveled over to www.whitepages.com, and
the rest is history
If anyone wanted to find you, they would have no trouble, and infact someone
truely motivated to do so could no doubt dig up MUCH MUCH more info on you,
and possibly even pay a professional to do it for them.
IMO, you're in no more danger after the incident, than you were before it.
If someone was ***** enough to physically track you, they would have
done so without my posting your details.
It would also seem that you know exactly the kinds of danger you're putting
yourself in by posting such hateful bigottry as you do, and that you have a
somewhat guilty conscience about it... otherwise, why so freaked?
You've made yourself a target. Not me.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 18 Feb 2005 10:30:18 AM

<itwill@happen.com> wrote in message
news:1108655881.ff67e8fec792f0cdfab4ccea9c1dcfa2@teranews...

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:


I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was
wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.


Apology accepted, but what have you done to reverse the damage alreay
done?


What's to do? The can is open, the worms are everywhere. You've made
yourself a target. Not me.

That said:


How does it feel to be powerless?


I'm not.


LOL

You sat on your chair saying (paraphrase) "I'm serious, I will have my
retribution against those who don't bow to my will"

Apart from a few auto-responded messages from Susan's ISP, telling you to
take it up with the cops and leave them alone, what power are you wielding?
I'd would say you seem to be flailing flaccidly about, issuing phsyical and
frivolous legal threats willy-nilly.

Being at the mercy of someone you feel is
a threat to you? You should think twice about issuing threats in public
forums... You'll find that there will be bystanders, like me, who take
offence to your brand of intimidation, even when it's not directed at
them.
People have limits, and as you found out yesterday, you just never know
when
someone will reach theirs. I don't expect you to apologise to the people
who have been the subject of your stand-over tactics, as it would be
forced
and worth nothing (a few have already said this), but I do expect you to
treat people how you would like to be treated. Don't issue threats you
couldn't handle happening to yourself.


I never attack first, ny attacks are always done after I have been
threatened in some fashion.


Not from my point of view... I see you, on a regular basis, claim that you
will have retribution in some real life fashion. If you can't handle some
real life retribution yourself, then you shouldn't threaten to dish it out.
Post my details here, I couldn't care less... infact I'll even give you
clues if you really want me to. I'm not threatened by what might happen.

You can claim the moral high horse all you want, but we all know what kinds
of ill ***** you promote on usenet, and if those posts have left you feeling
vulnerable, then who's fault is that?

You've made yourself a target. Not me.

I could care less about my personal details being posted to this forum...
why? Because I don't feel I've alienated myself from the world... You on
the other hand have, and fear for your safety because you promote your
hateful opinions here... I don't want to infringe on your right to
free-speech, but man... you really ought to think about the consequences
of
your actions before you carry them out. You obviously have a pretty good
idea of the anger you inflame, or you wouldn't be so freaked by all
this...
if you were rational about expressing your views, maybe you wouldn't have
the situation you have now: everyone steadying themselves, waiting to
pounce on every blundered line you type.


To end it with a cliche: Let this be a lesson to you....


Hmmmm, what kind of apology is that?


It's an apology for bringing your family into this, as they didn't deserve
it. You on the other hand, get no sympathy, as it's routine for you to
issue the kinds of threats that I carried out on you.

If you want to know, this is how I found the details:

- You spoke about the Coptic Christian murder in your area. Search for the
news item, and bam, I know you live in NJ
- You've posted your last name on several occasions
- Your first name is obvious, and I had a quick search of the google archive
to verify your wife's apparent name
- Armed with this information, I traveled over to www.whitepages.com, and
the rest is history

If anyone wanted to find you, they would have no trouble, and infact someone
truely motivated to do so could no doubt dig up MUCH MUCH more info on you,
and possibly even pay a professional to do it for them.

IMO, you're in no more danger after the incident, than you were before it.
If someone was ***** enough to physically track you, they would have
done so without my posting your details.

It would also seem that you know exactly the kinds of danger you're putting
yourself in by posting such hateful bigottry as you do, and that you have a
somewhat guilty conscience about it... otherwise, why so freaked?
You've made yourself a target. Not me.

yeah, good way to try to clear your conscious if anything did happen,
and to try to act as if you didn nothing wrong.
If posting an addres is such a harmless thing, I suggest you all do
it, if you all can't, then I have to assume that you all know that it
poses a danger, especially in light of recent events.
I won;t hold my breath waiting for those address postings.
Tony
.


User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 17 Feb 2005 06:36:59 PM
wrote:

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:



I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.



Apology accepted, but what have you done to reverse the damage alreay
done?

Wow. That's really big of you.
Funny, I missed the post where you apologized for posting my personal
email address without my permission and the ongoing financial expenses
that this has cost me to protect myself and my family's privacy.
Maybe it's time for some legal recourse here as well.
-ex
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 18 Feb 2005 10:31:09 AM

itwill@happen.com wrote:

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:



I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.



Apology accepted, but what have you done to reverse the damage alreay
done?


Wow. That's really big of you.
Funny, I missed the post where you apologized for posting my personal
email address without my permission and the ongoing financial expenses
that this has cost me to protect myself and my family's privacy.

You threatned me via e-mial and I made apublic plea for you to stop.
Case closed.
Tony
.
User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 18 Feb 2005 11:44:21 AM
wrote:



You threatned me via e-mial and I made apublic plea for you to stop.
Case closed.

Tony

Lie.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 19 Feb 2005 08:07:14 AM

itwill@happen.com wrote:

You threatned me via e-mial and I made apublic plea for you to stop.
Case closed.
Tony

Lie.

nope, the total truth.
Tony
.





User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 15 Feb 2005 06:53:40 PM
Aidan wrote:

First of all, I would like to extend an apology to Tony:

I do not wish any harm on your family... Bringing them into this was wrong,
and I offer my humble apology.

Well said.


That said:

How does it feel to be powerless? Being at the mercy of someone you feel is
a threat to you? You should think twice about issuing threats in public
forums... You'll find that there will be bystanders, like me, who take
offence to your brand of intimidation, even when it's not directed at them.
People have limits, and as you found out yesterday, you just never know when
someone will reach theirs. I don't expect you to apologise to the people
who have been the subject of your stand-over tactics, as it would be forced
and worth nothing (a few have already said this), but I do expect you to
treat people how you would like to be treated. Don't issue threats you
couldn't handle happening to yourself.

I could care less about my personal details being posted to this forum...
why? Because I don't feel I've alienated myself from the world... You on
the other hand have, and fear for your safety because you promote your
hateful opinions here... I don't want to infringe on your right to
free-speech, but man... you really ought to think about the consequences of
your actions before you carry them out. You obviously have a pretty good
idea of the anger you inflame, or you wouldn't be so freaked by all this...
if you were rational about expressing your views, maybe you wouldn't have
the situation you have now: everyone steadying themselves, waiting to
pounce on every blundered line you type.

To end it with a cliche: Let this be a lesson to you....

P.S. Do keep us posted on the progress of your legal recourse...

Very well said.
-A
.
User: "Aidan"

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 16 Feb 2005 04:05:49 PM
"Absolute Zero" <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cuu5dm$v3u$4@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
....

Very well said.

Thanks...
I notice Tony has conviniently skirted my post... must've made his head hurt
to try and reply :-P
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The reasoning... and the apology 17 Feb 2005 09:59:42 AM

"Absolute Zero" <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cuu5dm$v3u$4@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
...

Very well said.

Thanks...
I notice Tony has conviniently skirted my post... must've made his head hurt
to try and reply :-P

As if I'm supposed to be here 24/7
Tony
.




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