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User: "Peter K."
Date: 21 Apr 2004 05:22:29 AM
Object: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same!
Possible dangerous warning to America?
Quote from Enoch:
"These giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people
detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in
order to eat them."
In a way the giants are one group oppressing a "smaller" (minority)
group.
Substituting "group" for COUNTRIES...then say America is one country
(giant) and becomes a "Hungry" Beast then say it's hunger for oil from
the Petroleum Countries is never quenched...
America's demand for imports and oil consumption is presently
increasing at an alarmingly abnormal rate: putting pressure on it's
leaders to perhaps use un-ethical tactics on other countries (example:
to maintain the price of oil and keep increasing foreign productions).
This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries, leading
them to "REBELLION" which obviously leads to WAR between TWO
individual "groups"!
.

User: "Warhol"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 21 Apr 2004 06:44:13 PM
"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
7f35df4b.0404210222.1e401327@posting.google.com...

Possible dangerous warning to America?

Quote from Enoch:

"These giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people
detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in
order to eat them."

In a way the giants are one group oppressing a "smaller" (minority)
group.

Substituting "group" for COUNTRIES...then say America is one country
(giant) and becomes a "Hungry" Beast then say it's hunger for oil from
the Petroleum Countries is never quenched...

America's demand for imports and oil consumption is presently
increasing at an alarmingly abnormal rate: putting pressure on it's
leaders to perhaps use un-ethical tactics on other countries (example:
to maintain the price of oil and keep increasing foreign productions).

This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries, leading
them to "REBELLION" which obviously leads to WAR between TWO
individual "groups"!

You are completely right to post this. It's a war between good and bad as
Bush stated it. But the good are the bad and the bad are the good. And we
are in the final faze of the realization of an big Happening. But bad people
are trying to keep that knowledge for them self and secret, what once was
give to humanity by GOD himself.
This world has maximum 50 years to go before every life will die. The only
solution is to turn the axe of the planet back from the 7.5° now to 0° in
line with the sun. To do this there is need for nuclear war.
Europe, Russia, Asia, North America are the impact points for this
realization can become possible. That's why you Had 1666 years good life.
You killed, stole, destroyed all the world resources. And now the time is
come to pay the price of the crimes the Zionist committed. Good People will
be saved By the Lord.
Let me ad when the time is there more things who will become clear. Just
leave the city's and wait .
If you live in America you must go to Mexico. Europeans need to go to Spain
or south of France. Russians need to go to Iran or Turkey. From there they
will receive new information.
Because there is a new ICE TIME coming!!! And zionist heads will roll !!!
Be Warned
Warhol
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User: "Leigh_Bee"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 05:15:55 PM
(Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0404210222.1e401327@posting.google.com>...

Possible dangerous warning to America?

Quote from Enoch:

"These giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people
detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in
order to eat them."

In a way the giants are one group oppressing a "smaller" (minority)
group.

Substituting "group" for COUNTRIES...then say America is one country
(giant) and becomes a "Hungry" Beast then say it's hunger for oil from
the Petroleum Countries is never quenched...

America's demand for imports and oil consumption is presently
increasing at an alarmingly abnormal rate: putting pressure on it's
leaders to perhaps use un-ethical tactics on other countries (example:
to maintain the price of oil and keep increasing foreign productions).

This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries, leading
them to "REBELLION" which obviously leads to WAR between TWO
individual "groups"!

The basic reason for the study of Enoch is the part of the seventh and
eighth Millennium and of course the tour through seven levels of
heaven and hell.
But Noah well:
Reader: And the Lord said to Noah 'Where is the ark which I have
commanded thee to build?' And Noah said unto the Lord, 'Verily, I have
had three carpenters off ill; the gofer wood supplier hath let me
down; yea, even though the gofer wood hath been on order for nigh 12
months. What can I do, O Lord?' And God said unto Noah, 'I want that
ark finished even after seven days and seven nights.' And Noah said,
'It will be so'. But it was not so, and the Lord said unto Noah, 'What
seemeth to be the trouble this time?' And Noah said unto the Lord,
'Mine sub-contractor hath gone bankrupt. The pitch which thou
commandest me to put on the outside and on the inside of the ark hath
not arrived. The plumber hath gone on strike, thine shekels seem lost
in the mail. Shem, my son, who helpeth me on the ark side of the
business, hath formed a pop group with his brother, Ham and Shapeth.
Lord, I am undone.' And the Lord grew angry and said, 'And what about
the animals, the male and the female of every sort that I ordered to
come up unto thee, to keep their seed alive upon the face of the
earth?' And Noah said, 'They have been delivered to the wrong address,
but should arrive on Friday.' And the Lord said, 'How about the
unicorns, and the fowls of the air by sevens?' The unicorns are a
discontinued line, thou canst not get them for love nor money.
And Noah wrung his hands and wept, saying, 'Lord, the unicorns are a
discontinued line, thou canst not get them for love nor money; and the
fowls of the air are sold only in half-dozens. Lord, Lord, thou
knowest how it is.' And the Lord in his wisdom said, 'Noah my son, I
knowest. Why else dost thou think I am causing a flood to descend upon
the earth?'
Thunder/Whistling Wind
.
User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 26 Apr 2004 04:00:17 PM

guskz@hotmail.com (Peter K.) wrote in message news:<7f35df4b.0404210222.1e401327@posting.google.com>...

"This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries"
================================================================================
I've chucked the fable bits....well, thats about all of it really,
away.....But I am still trying to grasp how exactly anyone/thing may
be 'over-impoverished'!
The unhappy state of being 'impoverished' is not one to be quantified.
One is, or is not, impoverished.
I know, a minor and silly point...but it is bothering me more than it
should.
Ricky
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User: "u2 fan"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 22 Apr 2004 12:01:22 PM
Book of Enoch http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm
MUST be a false book since Enoch was along time before Noah, how could Noah
be named in Chp 10v2 hundreds of years before he existed AND also the book
starts with the 2nd coming of Christ ! rather than his first appearance, I'd
conclude it is a false book ! I'd say Enoch may have written a book but the
book was mostly lost and then added to carelessly.
"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0404210222.1e401327@posting.google.com...

Possible dangerous warning to America?

Quote from Enoch:

"These giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people
detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in
order to eat them."

In a way the giants are one group oppressing a "smaller" (minority)
group.

Substituting "group" for COUNTRIES...then say America is one country
(giant) and becomes a "Hungry" Beast then say it's hunger for oil from
the Petroleum Countries is never quenched...

America's demand for imports and oil consumption is presently
increasing at an alarmingly abnormal rate: putting pressure on it's
leaders to perhaps use un-ethical tactics on other countries (example:
to maintain the price of oil and keep increasing foreign productions).

This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries, leading
them to "REBELLION" which obviously leads to WAR between TWO
individual "groups"!

.
User: "Peter K."

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 23 Apr 2004 05:24:35 AM
"u2 fan" <aha@com.com> wrote in message news:<c68tp2$irg$1@titan.btinternet.com>...

Book of Enoch http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm

MUST be a false book since Enoch was along time before Noah, how could Noah
be named in Chp 10v2 hundreds of years before he existed AND also the book
starts with the 2nd coming of Christ ! rather than his first appearance, I'd
conclude it is a false book ! I'd say Enoch may have written a book but the
book was mostly lost and then added to carelessly.


Enoch is Noah's Great-Grandfather and lived over 300 years of age, in
those days they lived up to a 800-1000 years of age according to the
Bible.
They all got married according to the Bible about 35 years of age
therefore time to meet his great-grandson
.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 03:01:48 AM
Peter K. wrote:

"u2 fan" <aha@com.com> wrote in message news:<c68tp2$irg$1@titan.btinternet.com>...

Book of Enoch http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm

MUST be a false book since Enoch was along time before Noah, how could Noah
be named in Chp 10v2 hundreds of years before he existed AND also the book
starts with the 2nd coming of Christ ! rather than his first appearance, I'd
conclude it is a false book ! I'd say Enoch may have written a book but the
book was mostly lost and then added to carelessly.





Enoch is Noah's Great-Grandfather and lived over 300 years of age, in
those days they lived up to a 800-1000 years of age according to the
Bible.

According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big.
The oldest man according to the bible as Methuselah of 969 years.
Almost but not quite the one thousand.
See most of their ages in Genesis 5.
Enoch lived 365 years and God took him and he was no more.
This Enoch was not the author of the book of Enoch (the forgery).


They all got married according to the Bible about 35 years of age
therefore time to meet his great-grandson

Where does it say they got married?
In His Word,
Misty,
Ps there was a reason they could live so long back then before
the flood of Noah's time.
Can you tell us what that reason was and is not today in place?
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 03:55:38 AM
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108k7g0nvh7h3a7@corp.supernews.com...

According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big.

What has the longevity of a dinosaur got to do with its size?
The rest of your post is just as much nonsense.
--
krib
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 06:18:29 AM
How did Noah's flood compare to Dani's flooded basement?
That's what inquiring minds want to know.
Tony
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User: "Zak"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 10:32:51 AM
On 24 Apr 2004 11:18:29 GMT,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

How did Noah's flood compare to Dani's flooded basement?

That's what inquiring minds want to know.

Tony

Dimmi drowned her animals first. Hahahahaha
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 24 Apr 2004 04:54:13 PM
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:32:51 -0400, Zaaak <Zaaak@home.com> inserted
tongue:

On 24 Apr 2004 11:18:29 GMT,

(TonyZ2001) wrote:

How did Noah's flood compare to Dani's flooded basement?

Dimmi drowned her animals first. Hahahahaha

Poor Daaark will even lick Tony's ***** for a swipe at me. Pathetic.
Dani
.



User: "Misty"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 25 Apr 2004 02:07:39 AM
Krib wrote:

"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108k7g0nvh7h3a7@corp.supernews.com...

According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big.



What has the longevity of a dinosaur got to do with its size?
The rest of your post is just as much nonsense.
--
krib


I guess my post does not make much sense if you delete the post I was
replying to.
you are right.
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 25 Apr 2004 05:29:10 AM
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108momao3kgac9a@corp.supernews.com...

I guess my post does not make much sense if you delete the post I was
replying to. you are right.

If your short term memory is *that* bad then feel free to reinstate
anything I cut out, however as you quoted it in your reply I didn't
see the need to repeat it.
You still haven't answered how the size of a dinosaur equates with it's
lifeterm, why's that? here's what you posted...
"According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big."
Now apart from the fact that the phrase "literal years" makes no sense
how does a dinosaur's size equate to its age?
You also posted...
"The oldest man according to the bible as Methuselah of 969 years.
Almost but not quite the one thousand. See most of their ages in Genesis 5.
Enoch lived 365 years and God took him and he was no more.
This Enoch was not the author of the book of Enoch (the forgery)."
So according to you 969 is not quite 1000, which I would have said is
pretty obvious and shouldn't need stating. Most of the rest is redundant
and only the final line is applicable to the OP, feel better now?
--
krib
.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 26 Apr 2004 03:25:05 AM
Krib wrote:

"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108momao3kgac9a@corp.supernews.com...

I guess my post does not make much sense if you delete the post I was
replying to. you are right.



If your short term memory is *that* bad then feel free to reinstate
anything I cut out, however as you quoted it in your reply I didn't
see the need to repeat it.

Thank you for your reply,
Yes my short term memory is not all that good for I send many messages and
I can not remember every word for reference.
It is always good if you can leave the last lines for at least one round
and delete them later or let the one that posted them do the deleting of
their own messages.


You still haven't answered how the size of a dinosaur equates with it's
lifeterm, why's that? here's what you posted...

"According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big."

Now apart from the fact that the phrase "literal years" makes no sense
how does a dinosaur's size equate to its age?

FYI; literal years means in prophecy there are Prophetic years and literal
years in reference to the prophesies time periods.
Such as in prophecy it may say 1260 Days. Well this Days thing is in
prophetic code and has to be dealt with as such. In fact it means
1260 Literal years not literal days as it says. It is the bible prophetic
code God is using and is for the wise to decode for them to make any
sense or apply to any time in history.
Now later in this page of Alt.bible.prophecy it talks about God telling
Adam that in the day you eat from the tree of knowledge you shall surely
die. How ever Adam did not die in that literal day he ate from the tree,
as you may notice in the bible text if you do read a bible.
Well if we explore this we see it may be a lie in the bible at first glance.
However I the New testament and other places it says "a day with God is as
a Thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" "even as a day gone by
and done with. So if we apply one of God "Days" to what God told Adam
we see it is not a lie at all but that Adam would not live for the thousand
years but would die before that kind of time passed.
So there is no lie in that part of the bible.


You also posted...

"The oldest man according to the bible as Methuselah of 969 years.
Almost but not quite the one thousand. See most of their ages in Genesis 5.
Enoch lived 365 years and God took him and he was no more.
This Enoch was not the author of the book of Enoch (the forgery)."

So according to you 969 is not quite 1000, which I would have said is
pretty obvious and shouldn't need stating. Most of the rest is redundant
and only the final line is applicable to the OP, feel better now?

It needed stating if you did not know a Day With God is as a thousand year
as I explained above.
Now God did not mean this rule to be intended for the animals, so animals
could live longer then the 1000 years that man was restricted to live as
it was, in a time of beginning of Creation.
Some animals and plants only get so big all the time they live.
Other animals and plants just keep on growing as long as they are alive.
Now we can calculate from the bible text that there was 1656 years from
the day Adam was created to the flood of Noah.
In bible text we see no man lived to see the, God Day length of, life of 1000
years.
Now do differentiate animals from man; If any animals lived from the
day they were born or created, and did not die, it is possible that those
animals could reach the ripe old age of 1656 years, and died in the flood
of noah's time when the flood came and did away with the air breathing
animals and many of the sea creatures too.
So today when the Paleontologist dig up the bones of those animal they
call Dinosaurs and they find they are so tremendously large it could
well be that the animals may be much older then man had live at the same
time they live in the first 1656 years of Creation.
Does this satisfy you for the larger statement of the subject openers
I posted at first?
Or do you need more convincing.
Do you read the Bible at all?
I guess that question should be answered firstly.
I am your truly,
In His Word,
Misty,

--
krib




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User: "Krib"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 26 Apr 2004 06:15:26 AM
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108phj9mopvsf62@corp.supernews.com...

"According to the bible Man is not to live more then one day (1000)
literal years. but that did not pertain to the animals so that is
why dinosaurs, got to be so big."

Now apart from the fact that the phrase "literal years" makes no sense
how does a dinosaur's size equate to its age?


FYI; literal years means in prophecy there are Prophetic years and literal
years in reference to the prophesies time periods.

That may well be your opinion but the phrase as you used it was just
nonsense.

Such as in prophecy it may say 1260 Days. Well this Days thing is in
prophetic code and has to be dealt with as such. In fact it means
1260 Literal years not literal days as it says. It is the bible prophetic
code God is using and is for the wise to decode for them to make any
sense or apply to any time in history.

Ah yes, no point in saying something straightforward is there? where would
all you bible prophecy nuts be without such ways of twisting words?

However I the New testament and other places it says "a day with God is as
a Thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" "even as a day gone by
and done with. So if we apply one of God "Days" to what God told Adam
we see it is not a lie at all but that Adam would not live for the

thousand

years but would die before that kind of time passed.
So there is no lie in that part of the bible.

Weird tangent you went off here, you lose your way?

So according to you 969 is not quite 1000, which I would have said is
pretty obvious and shouldn't need stating. Most of the rest is redundant
and only the final line is applicable to the OP, feel better now?


It needed stating if you did not know a Day With God is as a thousand year
as I explained above.

Don't forget that "a thousand years is as a day" no point in you making any
sense is there? So we've established that 969<1000 and like I said It didn't
need stating.

Now God did not mean this rule to be intended for the animals, so animals
could live longer then the 1000 years that man was restricted to live as
it was, in a time of beginning of Creation.

Interesting how many of you second guess God and decide just what
He/She/It meant, what gives you the ability to do this?

Some animals and plants only get so big all the time they live.
Other animals and plants just keep on growing as long as they are alive.

Whch animal(s) grow as long as they are living?

Now we can calculate from the bible text that there was 1656 years from
the day Adam was created to the flood of Noah.
In bible text we see no man lived to see the, God Day length of, life of

1000

years.

The text being written by men and hardly renowned for its accuracy.

Now do differentiate animals from man; If any animals lived from the
day they were born or created, and did not die, it is possible that those
animals could reach the ripe old age of 1656 years, and died in the flood
of noah's time when the flood came and did away with the air breathing
animals and many of the sea creatures too.

All very nice but is there actually any point to your tale?

So today when the Paleontologist dig up the bones of those animal they
call Dinosaurs and they find they are so tremendously large it could
well be that the animals may be much older then man had live at the same
time they live in the first 1656 years of Creation.

But they don't, they're able to gauge the age of the animals from carbon
dating
and this would disagree with your little story.

Does this satisfy you for the larger statement of the subject openers
I posted at first?

Actually no, are you going to ignore that Whales are huge animals and a
newly
born blue whale can exceed 8m and can weigh more than an adult elephant?
Do you actually believe the size of dinosaurs is indicative of their age?

Or do you need more convincing.

I think you need to learn some natural history and not rely on your bible
to explain certain facts. So given you're unable to backup your opinion
with any facts what chance is there for anything else you say to be
believed?

Do you read the Bible at all?

Non sequitur

I am your truly, In His Word,

Yes, so many of you think you are, I'm sure He is most amused.
--
krib
.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 27 Apr 2004 02:26:26 AM
As long as you are not into bible reading I guess I think for you all
that is left is to scoff and argue. "SEE ABOVE" if you can? ! , .
Misty,
Krib wrote:

"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108phj9mopvsf62@corp.supernews.com...


FYI; literal years means in prophecy there are Prophetic years and literal
years in reference to the prophesies time periods.



That may well be your opinion but the phrase as you used it was just
nonsense.

Contention. No comment.



Such as in prophecy it may say 1260 Days. Well this Days thing is in
prophetic code and has to be dealt with as such. In fact it means
1260 Literal years not literal days as it says. It is the bible prophetic
code God is using and is for the wise to decode for them to make any
sense or apply to any time in history.



Ah yes, no point in saying something straightforward is there? where would
all you bible prophecy nuts be without such ways of twisting words?

Contention. No comment.



However in the New testament and other places it says "a day with God is as
a Thousand years and a thousand years is as a day" "even as a day gone by
and done with. So if we apply one of God "Days" to what God told Adam
we see it is not a lie at all but that Adam would not live for the

thousand years but would die before that kind of time passed.

So there is no lie in that part of the bible.



Weird tangent you went off here, you lose your way?

Contention. No comment.



It needed stating if you did not know a Day With God is as a thousand year
as I explained above.



Don't forget that "a thousand years is as a day" no point in you making any
sense is there? So we've established that 969<1000 and like I said It didn't
need stating.

Contention. No comment.



Now God did not mean this rule to be intended for the animals, so animals
could live longer then the 1000 years that man was restricted to live as
it was, in a time of beginning of Creation.



Interesting how many of you second guess God and decide just what
He/She/It meant, what gives you the ability to do this?

It gives me much delight in knowing My Lord is giving me the wisdom
to do the research to understand what "HIS WORD" is telling us and you
as well.



Some animals and plants only get so big all the time they live.
Other animals and plants just keep on growing as long as they are alive.



Whch animal(s) grow as long as they are living?

Elephants, Whales, sharks, snakes, alligators and crocodiles most other reptiles
and others.
I think even the Unicorn keeps on growing all the years it lives.
Oh no! Now you are going to laugh at this aren't you.
No Unicorn? Take a closer look at the Rhinoceros again.



Now we can calculate from the bible text that there was 1656 years from
the day Adam was created to the flood of Noah.
In bible text we see no man lived to see the, God Day length of, life of

1000 years.


The text being written by men and hardly renowned for its accuracy.

Contention. No comment.



Now to differentiate animals from man; If any animals lived from the
day they were born or created, and did not die, it is possible that those
animals could reach the ripe old age of 1656 years, and died in the flood
of noah's time when the flood came and did away with the air breathing
animals and many of the sea creatures too.



All very nice but is there actually any point to your tale?

Yes in many ways but I will only state one here for you.
It is to show the folly of Evolution. The bible lays it out in
very good order, not chaotic oblivion of the non proof evolutionists.
WE have the bible as a guide.
FYI Carbon dating does not work on Rocks or petrified fossils.
They can only guess at the ages because they reject the obvious of what
they are digging in. They are digging in the Flood debris.



So today when the Paleontologist dig up the bones of those animal they
call Dinosaurs and they find they are so tremendously large it could
well be that the animals may be much older then man had live at the same
time they live in the first 1656 years of Creation.



But they don't, they're able to gauge the age of the animals from carbon
dating
and this would disagree with your little story.

Carbon dating does not work on petrified substance. There is no
Carbon there to test with the tampered Carbon dating tools they
recalibrated.
They had to recalibrate them because the machines would not go back longer
then 7 or 8 thousand years.
After recalibration, now they will go back to what ever date they like.
Sorry it is only a man made machine and man can make it do what man
wants it to to do.



Does this satisfy you for the larger statement of the subject openers
I posted at first?



Actually no, are you going to ignore that Whales are huge animals and a
newly
born blue whale can exceed 8m and can weigh more than an adult elephant?

NO the wales live in an almost weightless Environment and can produce very large
offspring.
An Elephant gives birth to offspring as big as adult people. So what
does the size of the offspring have to do with the age and size of the
adults?

Do you actually believe the size of dinosaurs is indicative of their age?

I think it may.
However we do not see the Paleontologists even try to tell us how old
the animals and birds and fish were when they did and got buried in the
Flood debris.
They also do not tell us if they could swim in flood waters for 5 months
or longer.
150 days is how long the flood waters were on the earth at that time
and it was approximately the year of 2345 bc..
This is also the time of the start of the ice age.



Or do you need more convincing.



I think you need to learn some natural history and not rely on your bible
to explain certain facts. So given you're unable to backup your opinion
with any facts what chance is there for anything else you say to be
believed?

WEll we can go back to the dark ages where there was no learning going
on of any use at all except to rape pillage and burn.
But toward the end of the Dark Ages all hell broke loose and the printing
press was invented, and good learning again broke out on the world again.
NOw we have books by the millions coming off of the printing presses, and
we are able to talk around the world by the Internet.
Some have need to stay ignorant though I must say.
IN his Word,
Misty,



Do you read the Bible at all?



Non sequitur


I am your truly, In His Word,



Yes, so many of you think you are, I'm sure He is most amused.
--
krib


.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 27 Apr 2004 04:12:19 AM
"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108s2h3lkgq35eb@corp.supernews.com...

As long as you are not into bible reading I guess I think for you all
that is left is to scoff and argue. "SEE ABOVE" if you can? ! , .

So this is your way of avoiding issues you can't answer? Let's see
you write some nonsense, (perhaps English isn't you first language?
if so that's understandable), when questioned about it you resort to
metaphysical reasoning which doesn't answer the question put. Then
you make a stupid claim that the size of dinosaurs equates to their
age, again when questioned you spool out some garbage but still
can't answer.

That may well be your opinion but the phrase as you used it was just
nonsense.


Contention. No comment.

Not at all, when asked what a "literal year" is you fail to explain it but
resort to your opinion.

Ah yes, no point in saying something straightforward is there? where

would

all you bible prophecy nuts be without such ways of twisting words?


Contention. No comment.

Of course no comment, how can you answer facts when you need to pretend
that your biblical code is real?

Weird tangent you went off here, you lose your way?


Contention. No comment.

No surprise, your preaching left course and got you lost.

Don't forget that "a thousand years is as a day" no point in you making

any

sense is there? So we've established that 969<1000 and like I said It

didn't

need stating.


Contention. No comment.

Then you agree that 969<1000, good at least you have some sense.

Interesting how many of you second guess God and decide just what
He/She/It meant, what gives you the ability to do this?


It gives me much delight in knowing My Lord is giving me the wisdom
to do the research to understand what "HIS WORD" is telling us and you
as well.

Contention. I see you avoided answering the question again though. I doubt
you have the wisdom your ego likes to pretend it has.

Whch animal(s) grow as long as they are living?


Elephants, Whales, sharks, snakes, alligators and crocodiles most other

reptiles

and others.

I'll take issue on that with you, you're wrong.

I think even the Unicorn keeps on growing all the years it lives.
Oh no! Now you are going to laugh at this aren't you.
No Unicorn? Take a closer look at the Rhinoceros again.

No, no unicorn it's called a rhino, if you wish to believe that a unicorn
and rhino are the same that's up to you, it's symptomatic of your
skewed belief system anyway.

The text being written by men and hardly renowned for its accuracy.


Contention. No comment.

No answer? no of course not ;0)

It is to show the folly of Evolution. The bible lays it out in
very good order, not chaotic oblivion of the non proof evolutionists.
WE have the bible as a guide.

"Folly of evolution" how amusing, nice to meet a truly blinkered individual.

FYI Carbon dating does not work on Rocks or petrified fossils.

Wrong again. Your beliefs are your own and you're entitled to them but
hiding your hands over your eyes doesn't prevent facts.

They can only guess at the ages because they reject the obvious of what
they are digging in. They are digging in the Flood debris.

Contention. The opinion of a bible nut.

Carbon dating does not work on petrified substance. There is no
Carbon there to test with the tampered Carbon dating tools they
recalibrated.
They had to recalibrate them because the machines would not go back longer
then 7 or 8 thousand years.
After recalibration, now they will go back to what ever date they like.
Sorry it is only a man made machine and man can make it do what man
wants it to to do.

Well you need to believe what you believe, that's your problem.

Do you actually believe the size of dinosaurs is indicative of their

age?


I think it may.

Wrong again.

However we do not see the Paleontologists even try to tell us how old
the animals and birds and fish were when they did and got buried in the
Flood debris.
They also do not tell us if they could swim in flood waters for 5 months
or longer.
150 days is how long the flood waters were on the earth at that time
and it was approximately the year of 2345 bc..
This is also the time of the start of the ice age.

Blah blah blah, not a single fact in your little speech.

WEll we can go back to the dark ages where there was no learning going
on of any use at all except to rape pillage and burn.
But toward the end of the Dark Ages all hell broke loose and the printing
press was invented, and good learning again broke out on the world again.
NOw we have books by the millions coming off of the printing presses, and
we are able to talk around the world by the Internet.

More pointless pontificating.

Some have need to stay ignorant though I must say.

Yes, you have.
--
krib
.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 28 Apr 2004 04:15:13 AM
Krib wrote:

"Misty" <""yardholler\"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message
news:108s2h3lkgq35eb@corp.supernews.com...

snip> the scoffing remarks



Not at all, when asked what a "literal year" is you fail to explain it but
resort to your opinion.

If you would have asked "What a literal year is", I would have told you it is
one earth revolution around the Sun. So now you know and have already known
it unless YOU are a bit daft.



snip> the scoffing remarks



Of course no comment, how can you answer facts when you need to pretend
that your biblical code is real?

It is not my bible code it is only for me, "keys to unlock the Prophetic
code God put them in so the ignorant fools will never figure them out.
I am a fool for telling what I know. Even then you are not in line to
absorb the deep things I am telling you.
You are way to immature to listen and read what is being presented.
How ever YOU have no problem scoffing at it as if you know better what
I am telling you.




Then you agree that 969<1000, good at least you have some sense.

I only agree that 969 years is a bit short of one "God day".
If you are interested that is but I doubt YOU are interested in learning
bible Prophesy, for you are in contention at all times.
Have you reached the age when you no longer have the ability to "LEARN" anything
new?


snip> the scoffing remarks


It gives me much delight in knowing My Lord is giving me the wisdom
to do the research to understand what "HIS WORD" is telling us and you
as well.



Contention. I see you avoided answering the question again though. I doubt
you have the wisdom your ego likes to pretend it has.

Actually the answer is there but you can not see it.



Whch animal(s) grow as long as they are living?


Elephants, Whales, sharks, snakes, alligators and crocodiles most other


reptiles

and others.



I'll take issue on that with you, you're wrong.

Good let you issue flow forth.
not all animals grow bigger with age. They just divide.
Is an amoebae and animal? Is a germ an animal?
They truly are not plants.



I think even the Unicorn keeps on growing all the years it lives.
Oh no! Now you are going to laugh at this aren't you.
No Unicorn? Take a closer look at the Rhinoceros again.



No, no unicorn it's called a rhino, if you wish to believe that a unicorn
and rhino are the same that's up to you, it's symptomatic of your
skewed belief system anyway.

OH did I out guess you that time Scoffer kriby.



snip> the scoffing remarks


FYI Carbon dating does not work on Rocks or petrified fossils.



snip> the scoffing remark



Carbon dating does not work on petrified substance. There is no
Carbon there to test with the tampered Carbon dating tools they
recalibrated.
They had to recalibrate them because the machines would not go back longer
then 7 or 8 thousand years.
After recalibration, now they will go back to what ever date they like.
Sorry it is only a man made machine and man can make it do what man
wants it to to do.





Do you actually believe the size of dinosaurs is indicative of their


age?

I think it may.



Wrong again.

Wrong? Then you show the Proof if you have any.



However we do not see the Paleontologists even try to tell us how old
the animals and birds and fish were when they died and got buried in the
Flood debris.
They also do not tell us if they could swim in flood waters for 5 months
or longer.
150 days is how long the flood waters were on the earth at that time
and it was approximately the year of 2345 bc..
This is also the time of the start of the ice age.



Blah blah blah, not a single fact in your little speech.


WEll we can go back to the dark ages where there was no learning going
on of any use at all except to rape pillage and burn.
But toward the end of the Dark Ages all hell broke loose and the printing
press was invented, and good learning again broke out on the world.
NOw we have books by the millions coming off of the printing presses, and
we are able to talk around the world by the Internet.



snip> the scoffing remarks



Some have need to stay ignorant though I must say.



snip> the scoffing remarks

--
krib


.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 29 Apr 2004 02:53:24 PM

Not at all, when asked what a "literal year" is you fail to explain it

but

resort to your opinion.


If you would have asked "What a literal year is", I would have told you it

is

one earth revolution around the Sun. So now you know and have already

known

it unless YOU are a bit daft.

Really? yet according to you "Well this Days thing is in
prophetic code and has to be dealt with as such. In fact it means
1260 Literal years not literal days as it says. It is the bible prophetic
code God is using and is for the wise to decode for them to make any
sense or apply to any time in history." and yet a "literal year" is just
a year? like I said before no point in you speaking plainly when you
can resort to nonsense as in that paragraph is there?

Of course no comment, how can you answer facts when you need to pretend
that your biblical code is real?

It is not my bible code it is only for me, "keys to unlock the Prophetic
code God put them in so the ignorant fools will never figure them out.
I am a fool for telling what I know. Even then you are not in line to
absorb the deep things I am telling you.

I disagree, it is *your* code and it is *your* belief in it that makes it
real to you. Of course in your mind you are special and therefore in
receipt of God sent ability to read this code and the fact that only
you can "absorb" this knowledge is all imagination too.

You are way to immature to listen and read what is being presented.
How ever YOU have no problem scoffing at it as if you know better what
I am telling you.

I read what's presented and what I see is a huge ego masquerading
behind religion, a person that wishes divine knowledge and so invents
a "code" to find it. You believe what you want but I'm happy to discuss
your viewpoints in public when you make such ridiculous claims.

I only agree that 969 years is a bit short of one "God day".

A "God day" being a term created by a man.

If you are interested that is but I doubt YOU are interested in learning
bible Prophesy, for you are in contention at all times.

I certainly am interested but and it is in questioning such rash claims
that one discerns the true nature of them. your belief that I am in
contention is because I ask questions to see whether you, or others. have
any facts or evidence to go along with such claims.

Have you reached the age when you no longer have the ability to "LEARN"
anything new?

See my last paragraph but I am certainly able to learn still, I'm not
blinkered
by blind faith so still ask questions.

Contention. I see you avoided answering the question again though. I

doubt

you have the wisdom your ego likes to pretend it has.


Actually the answer is there but you can not see it.

No, your belief is not a fact.

Elephants, Whales, sharks, snakes, alligators and crocodiles most other
reptiles and others.


I'll take issue on that with you, you're wrong.


Good let you issue flow forth.

None of the animals you listed above grow throughout their lifespan and
you still have not provided anything other than your opinion that
Dinosaurs did so either.

not all animals grow bigger with age. They just divide.
Is an amoebae and animal? Is a germ an animal?
They truly are not plants.

Non sequitur.

No, no unicorn it's called a rhino, if you wish to believe that a

unicorn

and rhino are the same that's up to you, it's symptomatic of your
skewed belief system anyway.


OH did I out guess you that time Scoffer kriby.

You get yourself all upset by my questions don't you? so you
believe that a rhino and unicorn are one and the same? Here's
a definition of a Unicorn "A fabulous animal, with the head, neck
and body of a horse, a beard like that of a goat, the legs of a buck,
the tail of a lion, and a long tapering horn, spirally twisted, in the
middle
of the forehead" now feel free to point out these features on a Rhino.

Do you actually believe the size of dinosaurs is indicative of their

age?


I think it may.



Wrong again.


Wrong? Then you show the Proof if you have any.

No, how about you show the proof of your original claim? this debate came
about because of that claim yet you've been unable to offer anything but
your opinion since.
Oh and do try not to get so upset this is just a conversation nothing more.
--
krib
.












User: "u2 fan"

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 21 Apr 2004 01:39:57 PM
which book of enoch are you talking about, please give references !
"Peter K." <guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7f35df4b.0404210222.1e401327@posting.google.com...

Possible dangerous warning to America?

Quote from Enoch:

"These giants consumed the produce of all the people until the people
detested feeding them. So the giants turned against the people in
order to eat them."

In a way the giants are one group oppressing a "smaller" (minority)
group.

Substituting "group" for COUNTRIES...then say America is one country
(giant) and becomes a "Hungry" Beast then say it's hunger for oil from
the Petroleum Countries is never quenched...

America's demand for imports and oil consumption is presently
increasing at an alarmingly abnormal rate: putting pressure on it's
leaders to perhaps use un-ethical tactics on other countries (example:
to maintain the price of oil and keep increasing foreign productions).

This uneven trade may over-impoverish the supplying countries, leading
them to "REBELLION" which obviously leads to WAR between TWO
individual "groups"!

.
User: "Peter K."

Title: Re: The reason's for Noah's flood and Armagedon may be the same! 22 Apr 2004 12:00:00 AM
"u2 fan" <aha@com.com> wrote in message news:<c66f5t$c28$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...

which book of enoch are you talking about, please give references !


It's everywhere on the WEB, search "book of Enoch"
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