Muslims: Teddy Bear Protesters Don't Represent Us
Muslim Moderates Speak Out Against the Conviction of a British Teacher in
Sudan
Dec. 1, 2007
A Sudanese court convicted a British teacher this week of insulting Islam,
and sentenced her to 15 days in prison, followed by deportation.
Her crime was allowing her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
In Sudan, thousands of angry protestors have hit the streets, carrying clubs
and knives, calling for her execution, furious at what think is a lenient
sentence. The incident has outraged many in the West who cannot understand
the severity of her crime.
Moderate Muslims have been swift to condemn the events in Sudan. Daisy Khan,
director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, spoke to Bill Weir
on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition" about how a school project
escalated into a crisis over the Christian and Muslim cultural divide and
why it should be seen only as fringe extremism.
Heresy or 'Faux Pas'?
"What we're looking at here is a cultural 'faux pas,' and there's a
political undercurrent that's running through this furor," said Khan.
She rejected the idea that naming the Teddy Bear Muhammad was inherently
blasphemous.
"There is nothing sacred about the name Muhammad and anybody can use that,"
she said.
The teacher, Gillian Gibbons, 54, named the bear Muhammad at the request of
one of the boys in her class who wanted to name it after himself.
Muhammad is the most popular name for Muslim children. Typically, the name
is reserved for people, but protestors feel that nonetheless Gibbons took
the prophet's name in vain and have turned her into a symbol of Western
malice.
"I think that what we're looking at is a difference of cultural expression,"
Khan said, "because most Muslims revere their prophets and don't name their
prophets in vain.
Calls for Moderation
Khan rejected the idea that the protestors' actions were appropriate for
devout believers.
"The Sudanese people need to be reminded that the prophet always said that
the greatest gift you can give your children is the gift of education," Khan
said.
In the United Kingdom, Muslim leaders were horrified about the incident.
"It's very, very sad, very embarrassing for us," said Dr. Ghayasuddin
Siddiqui, leader of the Muslim Parliament in Great Britain, earlier this
week. "The Muslim community here has also expressed that this is simply
unacceptable behavior from the Sudanese government, and I think the Sudanese
have got to realize that this episode is doing immense damage to their
credibility outside."
Even in the Sudan, Islamic leaders have been speaking out.
"The greatest scholar in Sudan, Dr. Hassan al-Turabi, has himself condemned
this," Khan said. "I think that's an indication that Muslims no longer want
to remain silent and do not believe in these extremist views."
The AP contributed reporting to this article.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3940765&page=1
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Muslims: Teddy Bear Protesters Don't Represent Us
Muslim Moderates Speak Out Against the Conviction of a British Teacher in
Sudan
Dec. 1, 2007
A Sudanese court convicted a British teacher this week of insulting Islam,
and sentenced her to 15 days in prison, followed by deportation.
Her crime was allowing her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
In Sudan, thousands of angry protestors have hit the streets, carrying
clubs and knives, calling for her execution, furious at what think is a
lenient sentence. The incident has outraged many in the West who cannot
understand the severity of her crime.
Moderate Muslims have been swift to condemn the events in Sudan. Daisy
Khan, director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, spoke to
Bill Weir on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition" about how a school
project escalated into a crisis over the Christian and Muslim cultural
divide and why it should be seen only as fringe extremism.
Heresy or 'Faux Pas'?
"What we're looking at here is a cultural 'faux pas,' and there's a
political undercurrent that's running through this furor," said Khan.
She rejected the idea that naming the Teddy Bear Muhammad was inherently
blasphemous.
"There is nothing sacred about the name Muhammad and anybody can use
that," she said.
The teacher, Gillian Gibbons, 54, named the bear Muhammad at the request
of one of the boys in her class who wanted to name it after himself.
Muhammad is the most popular name for Muslim children. Typically, the name
is reserved for people, but protestors feel that nonetheless Gibbons took
the prophet's name in vain and have turned her into a symbol of Western
malice.
"I think that what we're looking at is a difference of cultural
expression," Khan said, "because most Muslims revere their prophets and
don't name their prophets in vain.
Calls for Moderation
Khan rejected the idea that the protestors' actions were appropriate for
devout believers.
"The Sudanese people need to be reminded that the prophet always said that
the greatest gift you can give your children is the gift of education,"
Khan said.
In the United Kingdom, Muslim leaders were horrified about the incident.
"It's very, very sad, very embarrassing for us," said Dr. Ghayasuddin
Siddiqui, leader of the Muslim Parliament in Great Britain, earlier this
week. "The Muslim community here has also expressed that this is simply
unacceptable behavior from the Sudanese government, and I think the
Sudanese have got to realize that this episode is doing immense damage to
their credibility outside."
Even in the Sudan, Islamic leaders have been speaking out.
"The greatest scholar in Sudan, Dr. Hassan al-Turabi, has himself
condemned this," Khan said. "I think that's an indication that Muslims no
longer want to remain silent and do not believe in these extremist views."
The AP contributed reporting to this article.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3940765&page=1
Hmmmm....contradictions in the news reports. The one I posted previously had
this paragraph --
School officials have said the students suggested names for the bear and
then voted. Their choice was Muhammad - the most popular boy's name in the
Muslim world.
But, now, in this latest news article, we're told the students didn't vote
and that only one boy requested the teddy be named after him! It reads --
The teacher, Gillian Gibbons, 54, named the bear Muhammad at the request of
one of the boys in her class who wanted to name it after himself.
Which is true? Goddamned mass media...the previous extremist-angled story
made it look like the teacher was, uh, less *guilty*, and this story on the
"moderate" Muslim angle makes her look...more to blame. Curious, ain't it?
Doc
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
[---worthless monkey snot---]
You're so frigging pathetic that you're not even
bothering to switch sock puppets before replying
to yourself.....
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02 Dec 2007 10:26:59 AM |
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
[---worthless monkey snot---]
You're so frigging pathetic that you're not even
bothering to switch sock puppets before replying
to yourself.....
Uh...yoo hoo, fairy! Yoooo hoooo! I wasn't *replying to myself*, I was
adding a postscript to my previous post.
Wake up, danisdeadlover/jtem/johnny ...
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02 Dec 2007 01:15:06 PM |
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Uh...
If you had only stopped right there, monkey, it would have
been your best post ever.... certainly the most intelligent.
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02 Dec 2007 06:28:02 PM |
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Uh...
If you had only stopped right there, monkey, it would have
been your best post ever.... certainly the most intelligent.
I'm shocked you could read and comprehend anything past it! The laboratory
language training exercises must be doing some good. Peanuts must be
tumbling down the feed chute a lot these days, eh?
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On Dec 2, 2:15 pm, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Uh...
If you had only stopped right there, monkey, it would have
been your best post ever.... certainly the most intelligent.
Uh, the Mooslums want folq to divide--don't do it.
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On Dec 1, 11:41 pm, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
Muslims: Teddy Bear Protesters Don't Represent Us
Muslim Moderates Speak Out Against the Conviction of a British Teacher in
Sudan
Dec. 1, 2007
A Sudanese court convicted a British teacher this week of insulting Islam,
and sentenced her to 15 days in prison, followed by deportation.
Her crime was allowing her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
In Sudan, thousands of angry protestors have hit the streets, carrying clubs
and knives, calling for her execution, furious at what think is a lenient
sentence. The incident has outraged many in the West who cannot understand
the severity of her crime.
Moderate Muslims have been swift to condemn the events in Sudan. Daisy Khan,
director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, spoke to Bill Weir
on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition" about how a school project
escalated into a crisis over the Christian and Muslim cultural divide and
why it should be seen only as fringe extremism.
Heresy or 'Faux Pas'?
"What we're looking at here is a cultural 'faux pas,' and there's a
political undercurrent that's running through this furor," said Khan.
She rejected the idea that naming the Teddy Bear Muhammad was inherently
blasphemous.
"There is nothing sacred about the name Muhammad and anybody can use that,"
she said.
The teacher, Gillian Gibbons, 54, named the bear Muhammad at the request of
one of the boys in her class who wanted to name it after himself.
Muhammad is the most popular name for Muslim children. Typically, the name
is reserved for people, but protestors feel that nonetheless Gibbons took
the prophet's name in vain and have turned her into a symbol of Western
malice.
"I think that what we're looking at is a difference of cultural expression,"
Khan said, "because most Muslims revere their prophets and don't name their
prophets in vain.
Calls for Moderation
Khan rejected the idea that the protestors' actions were appropriate for
devout believers.
"The Sudanese people need to be reminded that the prophet always said that
the greatest gift you can give your children is the gift of education," Khan
said.
In the United Kingdom, Muslim leaders were horrified about the incident.
"It's very, very sad, very embarrassing for us," said Dr. Ghayasuddin
Siddiqui, leader of the Muslim Parliament in Great Britain, earlier this
week. "The Muslim community here has also expressed that this is simply
unacceptable behavior from the Sudanese government, and I think the Sudanese
have got to realize that this episode is doing immense damage to their
credibility outside."
Even in the Sudan, Islamic leaders have been speaking out.
"The greatest scholar in Sudan, Dr. Hassan al-Turabi, has himself condemned
this," Khan said. "I think that's an indication that Muslims no longer want
to remain silent and do not believe in these extremist views."
The AP contributed reporting to this article.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3940765&page=1
Get with the PROGRAM - there 'DOC'
"Wolfy'" and "Wally HOOROO" have already 'PUSHED' this topic - "FRONT
& CENTER".
Running your own 'Thread' on this topic now - just makes you look like
a :
"Hey What About Me 'The Newsgroup Wannabee'. "
Get A Life (That doesn't already belong to someone ELSE).
Just A Thought.
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