http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
Tony
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10 Nov 2004 09:29:41 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
Tony
lol
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10 Nov 2004 04:47:39 PM |
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In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
Woods
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11 Nov 2004 05:42:02 AM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<fUwkd.434$qv5.294@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
Woods
Priorities it is a case of secure, one after another, strange though
the Darfur problem is partly because of the energy resources found
there, just round the corner from Iraq and Usama stayed there!
LB
Tony is coming with a "ready action force"
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11 Nov 2004 01:18:42 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:47:39 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
...exactly.
Woods
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12 Nov 2004 07:21:07 AM |
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Dani
wrote:
, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, >>Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that
is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
LOL!!!
Two completely brainwashed idiots who haven't a clue.
Yeah we're really controlling that oil, sheesh.
Tony
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13 Nov 2004 01:48:19 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
Dani
wrote:
, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, >>Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why
that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
LOL!!!
Two completely brainwashed idiots who haven't a clue.
Yeah we're really controlling that oil, sheesh.
Yep, we're not controlling much over there. Real bright idea
invading Iraq. Can you say 'Puppet Government' ? I knew you
could. The minute we turn our backs on Mosul, the police are
joining with the insurgents. When dust finally settles
whoever is left in power may be far worse than Saddam Hussein.
And before that happens there's going to be a civil war along
with a land grab along the borders.
Tony
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13 Nov 2004 10:05:31 AM |
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"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
Dani
wrote:
, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
tonyz2001@aol.com
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, >>Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why
that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
LOL!!!
Two completely brainwashed idiots who haven't a clue.
Yeah we're really controlling that oil, sheesh.
Yep, we're not controlling much over there. Real bright idea
invading Iraq. Can you say 'Puppet Government' ? I knew you
could. The minute we turn our backs on Mosul, the police are
joining with the insurgents. When dust finally settles
whoever is left in power may be far worse than Saddam Hussein.
And before that happens there's going to be a civil war along
with a land grab along the borders.
no civil war
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13 Nov 2004 10:33:34 AM |
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In article <Xns95A0831D5C4Frrfkwrantispamattbic@216.148.227.77>, "R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
Dani
wrote:
, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
tonyz2001@aol.com
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, >>Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why
that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
LOL!!!
Two completely brainwashed idiots who haven't a clue.
Yeah we're really controlling that oil, sheesh.
Yep, we're not controlling much over there. Real bright idea
invading Iraq. Can you say 'Puppet Government' ? I knew you
could. The minute we turn our backs on Mosul, the police are
joining with the insurgents. When dust finally settles
whoever is left in power may be far worse than Saddam Hussein.
And before that happens there's going to be a civil war along
with a land grab along the borders.
Well, since it wasn't costing Bush or his oil buddies a dime, and made billions
for Halliburton, it was worth a shot for them. The only cost was to the US
taxpayer and those poor soldiers who signed up to *defend* our country and lost
their lives in a land grab for US corporations.
A win-win situation for Bush and company.
Woods
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13 Nov 2004 11:04:30 AM |
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Well, since it wasn't costing Bush or his >oil buddies a dime, and made
billions for Halliburton,
Clinton owns more Halliburton stock than Bush and Cheney combined, so I guess
ole Bill must have set this all up.
it was worth a >shot for them. The only cost was to the US
taxpayer and those poor soldiers who signed up to *defend* our country and
lost their lives in a land grab for US >corporations.
LOL!!! A land grab, wheeweee, that's real funny.
Tony
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14 Nov 2004 11:28:30 AM |
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In article <20041113120430.08102.00000632@mb-m05.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Well, since it wasn't costing Bush or his >oil buddies a dime, and made
billions for Halliburton,
Clinton owns more Halliburton stock than Bush and Cheney combined, so I guess
ole Bill must have set this all up.
LOL! So, are you saying that Clinton came back into the White House just to
hand over a multi-billion dollar contract to Halliburton without any bidding
process in place? You're embarassing yourself, you fool.
it was worth a >shot for them. The only cost was to the US
taxpayer and those poor soldiers who signed up to *defend* our country and
lost their lives in a land grab for US >corporations.
LOL!!! A land grab, wheeweee, that's real funny.
You'e completely missing the point. It wold be nice if they ended up with
the land, but the attempt is what's bringing in the money. You know, that
multi-billion dollar contract that Bush and Cheney handed to them without a
bidding process. They win whether they end up with the land or not - at YOUR
expense Tony.
Woods
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12 Nov 2004 05:02:24 PM |
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In article <20041112082107.21753.00000378@mb-m12.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
wrote:
, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, >>Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that
is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
LOL!!!
Two completely brainwashed idiots who haven't a clue.
Yeah we're really controlling that oil, sheesh.
Did you know that there's a thing that people plan for, of how they'd like
things to end up. The "plan" part is what actions you expect to take in order
to accomplish what you want. The part that is what you want is referred to as a
"Goal". Getting the oil is a "Goal", and taking over Afghanistan and Iraq is
part of the "plan" to reach the "Goal".
Goals - not just for endzones anymore!
Woods
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13 Nov 2004 10:34:47 AM |
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Did you know that there's a thing that people plan for, of how they'd like
things to end up. The "plan" part is what actions you expect to take in
order
to accomplish what you want. The part that is what you want is referred to
as a
"Goal". Getting the oil is a "Goal", and >taking over Afghanistan and Iraq is
LOL!!!
You;re a deranged lunatic, if we wanted the oil, we would have taken the oil,
not pretend to take it only to fail.
You people are really short on brain power, no wonder you are so easily duped
by a fat turd like Michael Moore.
Tony
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14 Nov 2004 02:25:35 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Did you know that there's a thing that people plan for, of how they'd
like things to end up. The "plan" part is what actions you expect to
take in order
to accomplish what you want. The part that is what you want is referred
to as a
"Goal". Getting the oil is a "Goal", and >taking over Afghanistan and
Iraq is
LOL!!!
You;re a deranged lunatic, if we wanted the oil, we would have taken the
oil, not pretend to take it only to fail.
You people are really short on brain power, no wonder you are so easily
duped by a fat turd like Michael Moore.
Whew, you scared me there. For a second I thought you were going
to say 'easily duped by George Ding-a-ling Bush.'
Tony
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11 Nov 2004 01:59:59 PM |
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Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:47:39 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
Well, uranium, diamonds, gold, emeralds, etc., in Congo, why do you
think the French weasels are there?
J.
Woods
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11 Nov 2004 05:09:34 PM |
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In article <3xPkd.4290483$ic1.415094@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:47:39 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
Well, uranium, diamonds, gold, emeralds, etc., in Congo, why do you
think the French weasels are there?
Bush and his corporate buddies are into oil, not precious gems or metals. It
would be stupid for his corporate buddies to try to break into those markets
when they (1) don't know anything about it and (2)have a chance at cornering the
world oil market.
Woods
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12 Nov 2004 03:06:32 AM |
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*****.
J.
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <3xPkd.4290483$ic1.415094@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:47:39 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
Well, uranium, diamonds, gold, emeralds, etc., in Congo, why do you
think the French weasels are there?
Bush and his corporate buddies are into oil, not precious gems or metals. It
would be stupid for his corporate buddies to try to break into those markets
when they (1) don't know anything about it and (2)have a chance at cornering the
world oil market.
Woods
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12 Nov 2004 04:59:25 PM |
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In article <s2%kd.4906646$6p.800739@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
*****.
Which part, that they don't know anything about precious commodities, or that
they have a shot at cornering the world oil market?
Woods
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14 Nov 2004 08:12:04 PM |
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Woodswun a écrit:
In article <s2%kd.4906646$6p.800739@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
*****.
Which part, that they don't know anything about precious commodities, or that
they have a shot at cornering the world oil market?
Woods
***** that the president's motivation to be in Iraq are driven by his
interest for oil.
The French, who knows, they can never be trusted anymore. Even corrupted
the UN itself. But the US, your own country, is not into these petty
motivations. I don't get that everything demonstrates this. They have
simply implemented a resolution that was begging to be implemented for
12 years, they don't get one cent of the oil revenues they get nothing
from the 200 billions the betrayal of the weasels cost them on that.
There is just not any monetary or oil interest you can demonstrate. They
are there to restore democracy and you know it. Yet you adopt the
discourse of the worst weasels on this NG.
NOT nice. Very unpatriotic.
See, Woods, if one criticize their governments based on facts, it is one
thing that may be good, but when one lies about his president and cannot
provide the b beginning of a shred of evidence for anything he says
which is all based on anti-US propaganda, THAT is unpatriotic,
especially in times of war.
J.
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14 Nov 2004 11:28:05 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <s2%kd.4906646$6p.800739@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
*****.
Which part, that they don't know anything about precious commodities,
or that they have a shot at cornering the world oil market?
Woods
***** that the president's motivation to be in Iraq are driven by his
interest for oil.
The French, who knows, they can never be trusted anymore. Even corrupted
the UN itself. But the US, your own country, is not into these petty
motivations. I don't get that everything demonstrates this. They have
simply implemented a resolution that was begging to be implemented for
12 years, they don't get one cent of the oil revenues they get nothing
from the 200 billions the betrayal of the weasels cost them on that.
Most neocons freely admit, the idea all along was that Iraq's
oil revenue would pay for the cost of the war. What planet are
you posting from?
There is just not any monetary or oil interest you can demonstrate. They
are there to restore democracy and you know it. Yet you adopt the
discourse of the worst weasels on this NG.
NOT nice. Very unpatriotic.
See, Woods, if one criticize their governments based on facts, it is one
thing that may be good, but when one lies about his president and cannot
provide the b beginning of a shred of evidence for anything he says
which is all based on anti-US propaganda, THAT is unpatriotic,
especially in times of war.
J.
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15 Nov 2004 01:29:13 AM |
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R. Foreman a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <s2%kd.4906646$6p.800739@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
*****.
Which part, that they don't know anything about precious commodities,
or that they have a shot at cornering the world oil market?
Woods
***** that the president's motivation to be in Iraq are driven by his
interest for oil.
The French, who knows, they can never be trusted anymore. Even corrupted
the UN itself. But the US, your own country, is not into these petty
motivations. I don't get that everything demonstrates this. They have
simply implemented a resolution that was begging to be implemented for
12 years, they don't get one cent of the oil revenues they get nothing
from the 200 billions the betrayal of the weasels cost them on that.
Most neocons freely admit, the idea all along was that Iraq's
oil revenue would pay for the cost of the war. What planet are
you posting from?
They thought people would not betray them, yes. But this was not based
on that, but on implementing a resolution that was put off for 12 years,
and it is a lie to pretend it was.
J.
There is just not any monetary or oil interest you can demonstrate. They
are there to restore democracy and you know it. Yet you adopt the
discourse of the worst weasels on this NG.
NOT nice. Very unpatriotic.
See, Woods, if one criticize their governments based on facts, it is one
thing that may be good, but when one lies about his president and cannot
provide the b beginning of a shred of evidence for anything he says
which is all based on anti-US propaganda, THAT is unpatriotic,
especially in times of war.
J.
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16 Nov 2004 05:07:52 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
They thought people would not betray them, yes. But this was not based
on that, but on implementing a resolution that was put off for 12 years,
and it is a lie to pretend it was.
Are you talking about the UN resolutions concerning Iraq?
Bush decided he didn't need the UN and International Community.
Without these, what 'mandate' did Bush have for invading Iraq...
an 'imminent threat' ?
J.
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17 Nov 2004 06:05:56 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:07:52 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
They thought people would not betray them, yes. But this was not based
on that, but on implementing a resolution that was put off for 12 years,
and it is a lie to pretend it was.
Are you talking about the UN resolutions concerning Iraq?
Bush decided he didn't need the UN and International Community.
Without these, what 'mandate' did Bush have for invading Iraq...
an 'imminent threat' ?
45 minutes! Has this or hasn't this been the longest damn 45 minutes
of your life?! Yes, an imminent threat with WMDs deployable within
45 minutes. When that ploy failed - we got "links to Bin" - when that
ploy failed we got "Saddam involved in 9/11" - and when THAT failed..
....what did we get? Oh yes, the *liberation* of the Iraqis.
Ask the Iraqis how liberated they feel.
Dani
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18 Nov 2004 08:51:55 AM |
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Dani
wrote:
45 minutes! Has this or hasn't this been the longest damn 45 minutes
of your life?! Yes, an imminent threat with WMDs deployable within
45 minutes. When that ploy failed - we got "links to Bin" - when that
ploy failed we got "Saddam involved in 9/11" - and when THAT failed..
...what did we get? Oh yes, the *liberation* of the Iraqis.
Ask the Iraqis how liberated they feel.
Dani
You stupid little troll, most Iraqi's are very happy to have the US/UK there,
the Kurds are extremely happy.
The only ones that are not happy are those who supported Saddam Hussein and
those that are Al Qeada connected.
Tony
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17 Nov 2004 07:22:47 PM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> Spat the Words
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:07:52 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> Spat the Words
They thought people would not betray them, yes. But this was not based
on that, but on implementing a resolution that was put off for 12
years,
and it is a lie to pretend it was.
Are you talking about the UN resolutions concerning Iraq?
Bush decided he didn't need the UN and International Community.
Without these, what 'mandate' did Bush have for invading Iraq...
an 'imminent threat' ?
45 minutes! Has this or hasn't this been the longest damn 45 minutes
of your life?! Yes, an imminent threat with WMDs deployable within
45 minutes. When that ploy failed - we got "links to Bin" - when that
ploy failed we got "Saddam involved in 9/11" - and when THAT failed..
...what did we get? Oh yes, the *liberation* of the Iraqis.
Don't forget Jean's favorite argument, that we were enforcing
UN Resolutions (without the UN being with us, of course).
Iraq wasn't a danger because we knew Saddam was a kook and
we could lob Tomahawk missiles in there any time we felt like
it. The real danger is countries like N Korea and Iran who
outwardly feign peaceful intentions and won't provoke conflict
by doing stupid things, yet they secretly pursue WMD's as
fast as they can, and their history indicates they're not
really friendly.
Hopefully N Korea and Iran won't do anything stupid. We're
back to the policy of deterrance and detente, where any use
of WMD's will be met by overwhelming destruction of their
country.
Ask the Iraqis how liberated they feel.
Dani
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18 Nov 2004 08:54:50 AM |
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"R. Foreman" >eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net
wrote:
raq wasn't a danger because we knew Saddam was a kook and
we could lob Tomahawk missiles in there >any time we felt like it. The real
danger is >countries like N Korea and Iran who
outwardly feign peaceful intentions and >won't provoke conflict
by doing stupid things, yet they secretly >pursue WMD's as
fast as they can, and their history >indicates they're not really friendly.
First of all Iraq had proven itself to be an extreme danger by invading two
neighboring countries and attaking four others; or isn't that threat enough for
you?
Secondly you are proclaiming Iran and NK as the real dangers, but based on
what? The people that are telling you this are the same people that told you
about the dangers of Iraq.
Tony
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12 Nov 2004 11:19:15 AM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<OiSkd.489$zk7.181@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <3xPkd.4290483$ic1.415094@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Dani a écrit:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:47:39 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <20041110094342.12369.00000395@mb-m28.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
But not the leaders in the Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe, etc. Wonder why that is?
Oh, yeah .... no oil in Africa!
..exactly.
Well, uranium, diamonds, gold, emeralds, etc., in Congo, why do you
think the French weasels are there?
Bush and his corporate buddies are into oil, not precious gems or metals. It
would be stupid for his corporate buddies to try to break into those markets
when they (1) don't know anything about it and (2)have a chance at cornering the
world oil market.
Woods
Re: Caligula's 17th Dream...
Group: alt.poetry Date: Fri, Nov 12, 2004, 11:53am From:
evn7@webtv.net
Caligula's 17th Dream...
In faded hats, In Ancient Coats..
through the Crowd and the lines of Swords Across spread out carpets of
evening the Emperor Caesar goes..
With his fat cat and his fat dog
he goes..
He plans a painting of himself on the wall in the gallery and some on
the public halls..
His love for the exquisite face of the Queen is not well
received...... Her soft features stare upwards at Heaven's peace..
Arising from a long nap he grabs the green drapes of the Throne... and
plans to invade Britain
he likes the long legs of the queen and all the soldiers dressed in
silver and red...
he likes to give absurd orders
and likes to have people get things...
the wildly blowing sunset
outside... and he likes to dream of the topaz sea where he can sail...
he dreams of the queen in bright orange
and being nice to him...
~
j.nottingham
november 2004
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Iraq |
15 Nov 2004 04:48:19 PM |
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On 10 Nov 2004 14:43:42 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
Contains graphic images of the death
and destruction perpetrated on the Iraqi
people by Saddam Hussein, and shows
why he had to be removed.
With movie reviews from NewsMax, WorldNetDaily and FreeRepublic.
That ought to bring out the large crowds. :-)
But let's go back and take a closer look at Saddam.
Who brought Saddam to power? The U.S.
Who supported Saddam in his war with Iran? The U.S.
Who sold Saddam the kinds of germs he later used for
biological weapons? The U.S.
Who encouraged the Shiite uprising against Saddam in 1991, and then
betrayed them - an act that may have cost as many as 100,000 lives?
The U.S.
Who said Saddam could stay in power if he fully complied with UN
Security Council demands to disarm? The U.S. (Colin Powell)
I bet none of this will be mentioned in the new film "WMD - The
Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein".
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Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
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The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Iraq |
02 Mar 2005 12:34:21 PM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
But let's go back and take a closer look at Saddam.
Who brought Saddam to power? The U.S.
LOL!!! Where did you get your misinformation?
Saddam came to power within the Iraqi Baath Party and rose to the
top because of his ruthlessness.
The Baath Party at it's roots was a Communist form of government
and was backed extensively by the USSR.
Get a clue.
You are woefully ignorant. Or in denial.
NewsMax is one of your favorite websites, isn't it? You may want to
read the following article from UPI:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/10/205859.shtml
U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi
dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S.
intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him
as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S.
intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials. UPI has interviewed
almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S.
intelligence officials to piece together the following account.
....
Still not convinced? The Saddam-CIA story is out there, easy enough to
find. In order to find it, simply go to Google and enter the following
search criteria: "Saddam CIA coup." Most of the results are articles
and news items reporting how the CIA attempted to overthrow Saddam
several times since the first Gulf invasion. But Google also turns up
stories infrequently if ever reported in the mainstream press about
Saddam Hussein and the CIA - as it turns out the Iraqi dictator and
the now reviled Baath Party were once favored CIA assets serving US
interests.
Don't want to use Google, you say? Lazy *****! Here, let me help
you:
http://www.rise4news.net/Saddam-CIA.html
http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/051503a.html
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Nimmo_Saddam-CIA.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/2003/0314history.htm
Who sold Saddam the kinds of germs he later used for biological weapons?
The U.S.
Some, but we sell them to Universities all over the world for research all the
time. Other nations also sold these things to Iraq.
You are clueless. Read the following:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/globalissue/usforeignpolicy/USknowledgeIraqchemwarfare1988nf.html
Chronology of U.S./Iraqi relations: 1979-1993
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html
U.S. Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 1990
http://www.rehberg.net/Iraq-biochems-nukes.htm
Biochemical and nuclear material shipped to Iraq with U.S. knowledge
and via U.S. firms and government
http://globalsecurity.com/weapons_of/how_did.htm
How did Iraq get its weapons? We sold them
http://www.businessweek.com:/print/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2002/nf20020920_3025.htm?db
A U.S. Gift to Iraq: Deadly Viruses
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp-list_x.htm
A look at U.S. shipments of pathogens to Iraq
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm
Report: U.S. supplied the kinds of germs Iraq later used for
biological weapons
Who said Saddam could stay in power if he fully complied with UN
Security Council demands to disarm? The U.S. (Colin Powell)
But he never did comply.
Really? So tell us, where are the missing WMDs? Did the aliens take
them to Mars?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A12115-2004Oct6?language=printer
The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by
the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every
prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq.
Charles A. Duelfer, whom the Bush administration chose to complete the
U.S. investigation of Iraq's weapons programs, said Hussein's ability
to produce nuclear weapons had "progressively decayed" since 1991.
Inspectors, he said, found no evidence of "concerted efforts to
restart the program."
The findings were similar on biological and chemical weapons. While
Hussein had long dreamed of developing an arsenal of biological
agents, his stockpiles had been destroyed and research stopped years
before the United States led the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Duelfer said Hussein hoped someday to resume a chemical weapons effort
after U.N. sanctions ended, but had no stocks and had not researched
making the weapons for a dozen years.
You have been educated on the subject.
By you? Tell me, are you an unemployd stand-up comedian? I may help
you find some work. Your jokes make me laugh. Really! I'm not kidding.
--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
--
The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Iraq |
03 Mar 2005 02:56:41 AM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 19:34:21 +0100, Lone Ranger
<snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
But let's go back and take a closer look at Saddam.
Who brought Saddam to power? The U.S.
LOL!!! Where did you get your misinformation?
Saddam came to power within the Iraqi Baath Party and rose to the
top because of his ruthlessness.
The Baath Party at it's roots was a Communist form of government
and was backed extensively by the USSR.
Get a clue.
You are woefully ignorant. Or in denial.
NewsMax is one of your favorite websites, isn't it? You may want to
read the following article from UPI:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/10/205859.shtml
U.S. forces in Baghdad might now be searching high and low for Iraqi
dictator Saddam Hussein, but in the past Saddam was seen by U.S.
intelligence services as a bulwark of anti-communism and they used him
as their instrument for more than 40 years, according to former U.S.
intelligence diplomats and intelligence officials. UPI has interviewed
almost a dozen former U.S. diplomats, British scholars and former U.S.
intelligence officials to piece together the following account.
...
Still not convinced? The Saddam-CIA story is out there, easy enough to
find. In order to find it, simply go to Google and enter the following
search criteria: "Saddam CIA coup." Most of the results are articles
and news items reporting how the CIA attempted to overthrow Saddam
several times since the first Gulf invasion. But Google also turns up
stories infrequently if ever reported in the mainstream press about
Saddam Hussein and the CIA - as it turns out the Iraqi dictator and
the now reviled Baath Party were once favored CIA assets serving US
interests.
Don't want to use Google, you say? Lazy *****! Here, let me help
you:
http://www.rise4news.net/Saddam-CIA.html
http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/051503a.html
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles7/Nimmo_Saddam-CIA.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/2003/0314history.htm
Who sold Saddam the kinds of germs he later used for biological weapons?
The U.S.
Some, but we sell them to Universities all over the world for research all the
time. Other nations also sold these things to Iraq.
You are clueless. Read the following:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/globalissue/usforeignpolicy/USknowledgeIraqchemwarfare1988nf.html
Chronology of U.S./Iraqi relations: 1979-1993
http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html
U.S. Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 1990
http://www.rehberg.net/Iraq-biochems-nukes.htm
Biochemical and nuclear material shipped to Iraq with U.S. knowledge
and via U.S. firms and government
http://globalsecurity.com/weapons_of/how_did.htm
How did Iraq get its weapons? We sold them
http://www.businessweek.com:/print/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2002/nf20020920_3025.htm?db
A U.S. Gift to Iraq: Deadly Viruses
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp-list_x.htm
A look at U.S. shipments of pathogens to Iraq
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-09-30-iraq-ushelp_x.htm
Report: U.S. supplied the kinds of germs Iraq later used for
biological weapons
Who said Saddam could stay in power if he fully complied with UN
Security Council demands to disarm? The U.S. (Colin Powell)
But he never did comply.
Really? So tell us, where are the missing WMDs? Did the aliens take
them to Mars?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A12115-2004Oct6?language=printer
The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed
Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam
Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by
the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every
prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq.
Charles A. Duelfer, whom the Bush administration chose to complete the
U.S. investigation of Iraq's weapons programs, said Hussein's ability
to produce nuclear weapons had "progressively decayed" since 1991.
Inspectors, he said, found no evidence of "concerted efforts to
restart the program."
The findings were similar on biological and chemical weapons. While
Hussein had long dreamed of developing an arsenal of biological
agents, his stockpiles had been destroyed and research stopped years
before the United States led the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Duelfer said Hussein hoped someday to resume a chemical weapons effort
after U.N. sanctions ended, but had no stocks and had not researched
making the weapons for a dozen years.
You have been educated on the subject.
By you? Tell me, are you an unemployd stand-up comedian? I may help
you find some work. Your jokes make me laugh. Really! I'm not kidding.
--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
You are wasting your time on pantyboy, he only believes what his
government run media sites spew.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Iraq |
17 Nov 2004 08:19:14 PM |
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tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote in message >news:<20041117102152.05904.00000392@mb-m19.aol.com>...
Lone Ranger >snowball2002@bigfoot.com wrote:
Who sold Saddam the kinds of germs he >later used for biological weapons? The
U.S.
The chemicals used were Russian ready-made and the Americans only sold
them ingredients in which they didn't know how to put it together.
Some, but we sell them to Universities all over the world for research all the
time. Other nations also sold these things to Iraq.
Who encouraged the Shiite uprising >against Saddam in 1991, and then
betrayed them - an act that may have >cost as many as 100,000 lives?
The U.S.
And who convinced President Bush not to go into Baghdad? Your Liberal friends.
Who said Saddam could stay in power if >he fully complied with UN Security
Council demands to disarm? The U.S. >(Colin Powell)
UN (some EU) 23.3 billion Oil for food and Saddam took this money and
supplied money to suicide bombers - nice try though ;)
But he never did comply.
You have been educated on the subject.
Tony
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