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User: "jha_amin"
Date: 12 Feb 2004 07:35:20 AM
Object: The truth about the rapture
The Door Interview with Jerry B. Jenkins
or a reasonable facsimile thereof...
By Christopher Fisher
Issue #191, January/February 2004
The year 2004 saw an explosion in the Christian fiction market, due
mostly to the never-ending Left Behind series and its many parallel
and spin-off books. The high volume of sales, coupled with the recent
purchase of several Christian printing houses, have made Tim LaHaye
and Jerry B. Jenkins the most influential men in Christian publishing.
The following is from a November interview between TheDoorMagazine and
Jerry B. Jenkins, co-author of the Left Behind series.
THE DOOR MAGAZINE: Many of your readers were surprised and
disappointed upon finishing the final book of the Left Behind series
to find the story was, still, not over. What was the reason behind the
newest spin-off series Armageddon?
JERRY B JENKINS: Tim and I just felt one final book could not do
justice to the judgment that awaits unbelievers. We received thousands
of letters from readers who wanted to see more of God's wrath on
sinners. So when we neared the end of the story, we decided to milk
it, I mean stretch it into three books. That way we could really focus
in on the judgment. You know, burning flesh, birds pecking out
eyeballs, parents eating their children – stuff like that.
DOOR: This year marked the release of White Horse (The Dragon is
Bound), the final entry in the Armageddon Trilogy. Is this finally the
end of Left Behind?
JENKINS: Hardly! Tim and I have already begun work on a new extension
to the series. As you know, the devil is bound, but not yet defeated.
After a thousand years, he will be released to deceive the nations and
another war will be fought between God and man.
DOOR: So, are you saying there will be a Gog and Magog trilogy?
JENKINS: Exactly! But in the meantime, we have the whole millennial
reign to write about.
DOOR: When can we expect a book on the thousand-year reign?
JENKINS: Not just a book. A whole series! The first installation will
come out early January of next year, and the second the following
week.
DOOR: The following week?!
JENKINS: Yes. You see, with Left Behind, we originally planned on
doing seven books: one book for each year of the Great Tribulation.
We've decided to do the same with Millennium.
DOOR: You mean a 1,000-book series?!
JENKINS: If you'll remember, we couldn't stop at seven on the first
series. There was just too much story at stake.
DOOR: And too much money.
JENKINS: So we're thinking we can milk ... excuse me, amplify ...
Millennium to about 2,500 volumes. Give or take a couple hundred.
DOOR: !!!
JENKINS: Which brings me back to the weekly release date. If we want
to get all these volumes out there, it'll have to be back to back, on
a weekly basis.
DOOR: One week doesn't leave much time for proofreading and editing.
Aren't you concerned that such a short deadline might diminish the
quality of your writing?
JENKINS: What do you mean?
DOOR: Um, writing a book in one week is one thing; getting it through
editors, attorneys, printing houses, and finally to the bookstores in
that amount of time is another matter. How will you handle the
publishing demands involved?
JENKINS: Of course we'll cut out some of the unnecessary middlemen,
like the editors. As you know, Tim and I have bought up almost half
the Christian printing houses in the last few years, so there's no
problem there. With the name recognition we've gained, we won't even
worry about all that legal stuff – except the royalties and advances,
of course. No one would dare try to take credit for our work.
DOOR: Hmm. That's true. We can't think of anyone off the tops of
heads, either.
JENKINS: But the key to the whole project is the template.
DOOR: The template?
JENKINS: Yes. Since, the Millennial Reign will be a peaceful time when
Christ reigns on earth and the Devil is bound, it'll be pretty much
the same old same old, day after day. So we created a template. Each
week, Tim and I will make a few changes here and there and send them
to the printing house. They'll print the changes and send them out to
the stores.
DOOR: Do you really think your audience will buy 2,500 copies of the
same book?
JENKINS: We think the changes we make will be worth it. For instance,
Nicolae Carpathia spends the duration of the series in hell. But we'll
have him one week in a vat of boiling oil, the next week suspended
head-down in human dung, and the following week receiving a pedicure
with a belt sander. You get the point. Each week, readers will buy the
next copy to see what torment awaits the Antichrist.
DOOR: Sure, but you said yourself the Millennial Reign will be pretty
much static. Without some kind of conflict, how do you plan to develop
a plot?
JENKINS: Whoa! Hold off on the big words there.
DOOR: Sorry. You know, static: staying the same, never changing...
JENKINS: No, I meant that last word. Define that one for me.
DOOR: Uh, just look at the big picture for a moment, Jerry. I mean,
let's face it. You and Mr. LeHaye are not exactly young men. Writing
2,500 books – one every week! It'll take at least (counting on our
fingers and toes) 48 years! Even if you can pull off this rapid-fire
publishing tactic, and even if anyone out there is stupid enough to
buy the books, can you really expect to be around for the end of the
series?
JENKINS: We will definitely run into some problems there. But Tim has
it all worked out. He says that, according to prophecy, someone will
eventually get fed up with us, and I will be assassinated. But then,
just when everyone thinks Left Behind is over, the spirit of Tim
LaHaye will take possession of my body and I will rise from the dead.
Then, together we will continue our plan to subvert and control the
Christian publishing industry.
.

User: "Leigh_Bee"

Title: Re: The truth about the rapture 12 Feb 2004 04:41:00 PM
(jha_amin) wrote in message news:<33b7880.0402120535.551d9a9@posting.google.com>...

The Door Interview with Jerry B. Jenkins
or a reasonable facsimile thereof...

By Christopher Fisher
Issue #191, January/February 2004

The year 2004 saw an explosion in the Christian fiction market, due
mostly to the never-ending Left Behind series and its many parallel
and spin-off books. The high volume of sales, coupled with the recent
purchase of several Christian printing houses, have made Tim LaHaye
and Jerry B. Jenkins the most influential men in Christian publishing.
The following is from a November interview between TheDoorMagazine and
Jerry B. Jenkins, co-author of the Left Behind series.

THE DOOR MAGAZINE: Many of your readers were surprised and
disappointed upon finishing the final book of the Left Behind series
to find the story was, still, not over. What was the reason behind the
newest spin-off series Armageddon?
JERRY B JENKINS: Tim and I just felt one final book could not do
justice to the judgment that awaits unbelievers.

SNIP

JENKINS: We will definitely run into some problems there. But Tim has
it all worked out. He says that, according to prophecy, someone will
eventually get fed up with us, and I will be assassinated. But then,
just when everyone thinks Left Behind is over, the spirit of Tim
LaHaye will take possession of my body and I will rise from the dead.
Then, together we will continue our plan to subvert and control the
Christian publishing industry.

Oh yes absolutely one of the true scams a rapture, does it say I want
some spiritual insurance, or the gravy train for me?
Well here is a take from 1986 The Messianic Legacy, not much has
changed only the names:
But there are certain premises which are specifically fundamentalist.
The first of these is that the United States and the United Kingdom
today are to be identified sometimes symbolically but more often quite
literally - with the scattered 'remnants' of ancient Israel. Modern
Judaism is believed to derive from the biblical Tribe of Judah, but
the descendants of the remaining tribes are deemed to be the white
Anglo-Saxon Protestants of Britain and America - and their kindred
abroad, in places such as South Africa. These are the new 'elect', the
new 'chosen people'.
The second underlying premise of modern fundamentalism is that
biblical prophecy is of cardinal importance. Certain specific works
are repeatedly cited, notably the Book of Revelation (dating from the
late first or early second century A.D.) and the 'classical'
prophecies of the Old Testament (dating from between the eighth and
fifth centuries B.C.). These works, it is believed, were composed in
large part to predict events in the modern world - events 'scheduled'
to occur in our own time. Despite numerous documented blunders by Old
Testament prophets about their own epoch, they are held to be
infallible prognosticators about ours. Even their dire fulmination's
against each other are lifted out of the original historical context
and deemed applicable today. And yet it, is worth remembering at least
something of the historical context which fundamentalists so
cavalierly ignore. Ancient Israel, after all, was a loose-knit,
ill-defined and often ungovernable political entity smaller than the
county of Yorkshire, or the state of New jersey - with a bare fraction
of the population of either. It occupied an inconsequential fragment
of what, even then, was the known world. And yet the records of its
internal wranglings are regarded as an infallible guide to the late
twentieth century, in virtually every sphere, from personal conduct to
foreign relations. It is rather as if the vision of the future
propounded by one member of a Yorkshire council, or the New jersey
legislature, in 1986 were to be used, quite literally, as a means of
explaining friction between, say, Canada and China, or even between
earth colonies in space, in the fiftieth or sixtieth century.
The third premise underlying modern fundamentalism involves the
specific message of certain prophecies. This message, of course, is
that the apocalypse is imminent. For the fundamentalist, the world has
entered the Last Days, just as it was believed to have done in Jesus's
time. The Antichrist will shortly appear (if he has not already done
so) and wreak assorted kinds of havoc. A period of 'tribulation' will
ensue, culminating in the epic Battle of Armageddon, and the world
will be utterly destroyed in some kind of holocaust. After this
debacle, the Second Coming will occur - Jesus will descend in glory,
from the heavens, the dead will rise from their graves and the new
Kingdom will be inaugurated. Needless to say, only the 'elect' or the
'saved' will be granted residence permits.
This, in general, is the prospect envisaged by fundamentalist
preachers. At given points here and there, certain of them become more
specific. Thus, for example, the Antichrist is often identified with
the Soviet Union - the 'evil empire' castigated by Ronald Reagan. One
of the wealthiest and most powerful fundamentalist organisations,
however, identifies the menacing ten-crowned 'Beast' of the Book of
Revelation - that is, the Antichrist - quite precisely ; the EEC with
its ten member nations. 12 (That they are now twelve is presumably
some new, pernicious and previous stratagem on the part of the
'Beast'.) It is predicted that the nations of the EEC will wage war
against the United States and the United Kingdom, will defeat them and
will then enslave them. Britain and America will become satellites of
a new world power based in Europe, and this power will embark on the
Third World War ' - presumably against the Soviet union. Biblical
prophecies are invoked to forecast that ie war will last two and a
half years and cost the lives [two-thirds of the population of Britain
and America, ] in order to bring people around to God's way of
linking. 'In this fearful, awesome atomic age, World war III will
start with nuclear devastation, unleashed in London, Birmingham,
Manchester, Liverpool, New York, Washington, Philadelphia, Detroit,
Chicago, Pittsburg without warning!"' Curiously enough, the major
cities on America's West Coast, which would merely seem to qualify as
the modern world's Sodom and Gomorrah, are exempted from this
catalogue of destructive retribution. But then again, as the Old
Testament prophets never mentioned any of the cities in question,
there is probably a greater margin for error on the part of the modern
interpreter. It was inconsiderate of Jeremiah riot to have said
anything about Hollywood, thus leaving its residents uncertain of
their fate.
At the end of the Third World War, the climactic battle of Armageddon
will be fought somewhere in the middle East. The Antichrist will
appear again - or perhaps it is a different Antichrist - and contend
against the forces of God. Since the game has been fixed in advance,
God's forces, commanded by Jesus in the Age of field-marshal, will
naturally emerge triumphant - but the whole affair will have been
messy in the extreme. However, if one repents now, if one allows
oneself to be 'saved' and especially if one makes a financial
contribution to the church, one will be spared all the carnage and
removed to a place of safety until the turmoil has been resolved. In a
variation on this theme, certain fundamentalist preachers speak of a
moment in the present generation when the faithful will be 'Raptured
away'. ' Without warning, all true believers will suddenly evaporate,
dematerialise, disappear in the flicker of an eyelid from their
offices, their homes, their golf courses, their cars (left careering
driverless across streets and motorways), and will rocket upwards to a
personal interview with Jesus. From a position of shelter amidst his
celestial entourage, they will be permitted detachedly to watch the
unfolding cataclysm as if it were a football match.
It is, of course, easy enough to scoff at such convictions, compared
with which the beliefs of many so called 'primitive societies' appear
downright sophisticated. And yet an extraordinary and ever increasing
number of people in America today take them quite seriously, and are
not only resigned to an imminent apocalypse, but actually, in some
sense, look forward to it, in expectation of a blissful eternity in
the millennial Kingdom of the Second Coming. Among this number, it has
been suggested, is the President of the United States. In an article
which appeared both in the Washington Post and in the ,Guardian, for
example, Ronnie Dugger, a prominent American journalist, writes: ' . .
.. Americans could fairly wonder if their president ... is personally
predisposed by fundamentalist theology to expect some kind of
Armageddon beginning with a nuclear war in the Middle East'." And,
further: 'If a crisis arises in the Middle East and threatens to
become a nuclear confrontation, might President Reagan be predisposed
to believe that he sees Armageddon coming and that this is the will of
God `
LB
.
User: "cesar"

Title: Re: The truth about the rapture 12 Feb 2004 07:58:56 PM
"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:39cd5fe.0402121441.53401c92@posting.google.com...


Oh yes absolutely one of the true scams a rapture, does it say I want
some spiritual insurance, or the gravy train for me?
Well here is a take from 1986 The Messianic Legacy, not much has
changed only the names:

But there are certain premises which are specifically fundamentalist.

The first of these is that the United States and the United Kingdom
today are to be identified sometimes symbolically but more often quite
literally - with the scattered 'remnants' of ancient Israel. Modern
Judaism is believed to derive from the biblical Tribe of Judah, but
the descendants of the remaining tribes are deemed to be the white
Anglo-Saxon Protestants of Britain and America - and their kindred
abroad, in places such as South Africa. These are the new 'elect', the
new 'chosen people'.

The second underlying premise of modern fundamentalism is that
biblical prophecy is of cardinal importance. Certain specific works
are repeatedly cited, notably the Book of Revelation (dating from the
late first or early second century A.D.) and the 'classical'
prophecies of the Old Testament (dating from between the eighth and
fifth centuries B.C.). These works, it is believed, were composed in
large part to predict events in the modern world - events 'scheduled'
to occur in our own time. Despite numerous documented blunders by Old
Testament prophets about their own epoch, they are held to be
infallible prognosticators about ours. Even their dire fulmination's
against each other are lifted out of the original historical context
and deemed applicable today. And yet it, is worth remembering at least
something of the historical context which fundamentalists so
cavalierly ignore. Ancient Israel, after all, was a loose-knit,
ill-defined and often ungovernable political entity smaller than the
county of Yorkshire, or the state of New jersey - with a bare fraction
of the population of either. It occupied an inconsequential fragment
of what, even then, was the known world. And yet the records of its
internal wranglings are regarded as an infallible guide to the late
twentieth century, in virtually every sphere, from personal conduct to
foreign relations. It is rather as if the vision of the future
propounded by one member of a Yorkshire council, or the New jersey
legislature, in 1986 were to be used, quite literally, as a means of
explaining friction between, say, Canada and China, or even between
earth colonies in space, in the fiftieth or sixtieth century.

The third premise underlying modern fundamentalism involves the
specific message of certain prophecies. This message, of course, is
that the apocalypse is imminent. For the fundamentalist, the world has
entered the Last Days, just as it was believed to have done in Jesus's
time. The Antichrist will shortly appear (if he has not already done
so) and wreak assorted kinds of havoc. A period of 'tribulation' will
ensue, culminating in the epic Battle of Armageddon, and the world
will be utterly destroyed in some kind of holocaust. After this
debacle, the Second Coming will occur - Jesus will descend in glory,
from the heavens, the dead will rise from their graves and the new
Kingdom will be inaugurated. Needless to say, only the 'elect' or the
'saved' will be granted residence permits.

This, in general, is the prospect envisaged by fundamentalist
preachers. At given points here and there, certain of them become more
specific. Thus, for example, the Antichrist is often identified with
the Soviet Union - the 'evil empire' castigated by Ronald Reagan. One
of the wealthiest and most powerful fundamentalist organisations,
however, identifies the menacing ten-crowned 'Beast' of the Book of
Revelation - that is, the Antichrist - quite precisely ; the EEC with
its ten member nations. 12 (That they are now twelve is presumably
some new, pernicious and previous stratagem on the part of the
'Beast'.) It is predicted that the nations of the EEC will wage war
against the United States and the United Kingdom, will defeat them and
will then enslave them. Britain and America will become satellites of
a new world power based in Europe, and this power will embark on the
Third World War ' - presumably against the Soviet union. Biblical
prophecies are invoked to forecast that ie war will last two and a
half years and cost the lives [two-thirds of the population of Britain
and America, ] in order to bring people around to God's way of
linking. 'In this fearful, awesome atomic age, World war III will
start with nuclear devastation, unleashed in London, Birmingham,
Manchester, Liverpool, New York, Washington, Philadelphia, Detroit,
Chicago, Pittsburg without warning!"' Curiously enough, the major
cities on America's West Coast, which would merely seem to qualify as
the modern world's Sodom and Gomorrah, are exempted from this
catalogue of destructive retribution. But then again, as the Old
Testament prophets never mentioned any of the cities in question,
there is probably a greater margin for error on the part of the modern
interpreter. It was inconsiderate of Jeremiah riot to have said
anything about Hollywood, thus leaving its residents uncertain of
their fate.

At the end of the Third World War, the climactic battle of Armageddon
will be fought somewhere in the middle East. The Antichrist will
appear again - or perhaps it is a different Antichrist - and contend
against the forces of God. Since the game has been fixed in advance,
God's forces, commanded by Jesus in the Age of field-marshal, will
naturally emerge triumphant - but the whole affair will have been
messy in the extreme. However, if one repents now, if one allows
oneself to be 'saved' and especially if one makes a financial
contribution to the church, one will be spared all the carnage and
removed to a place of safety until the turmoil has been resolved. In a
variation on this theme, certain fundamentalist preachers speak of a
moment in the present generation when the faithful will be 'Raptured
away'. ' Without warning, all true believers will suddenly evaporate,
dematerialise, disappear in the flicker of an eyelid from their
offices, their homes, their golf courses, their cars (left careering
driverless across streets and motorways), and will rocket upwards to a
personal interview with Jesus. From a position of shelter amidst his
celestial entourage, they will be permitted detachedly to watch the
unfolding cataclysm as if it were a football match.

It is, of course, easy enough to scoff at such convictions, compared
with which the beliefs of many so called 'primitive societies' appear
downright sophisticated. And yet an extraordinary and ever increasing
number of people in America today take them quite seriously, and are
not only resigned to an imminent apocalypse, but actually, in some
sense, look forward to it, in expectation of a blissful eternity in
the millennial Kingdom of the Second Coming. Among this number, it has
been suggested, is the President of the United States. In an article
which appeared both in the Washington Post and in the ,Guardian, for
example, Ronnie Dugger, a prominent American journalist, writes: ' . .
. Americans could fairly wonder if their president ... is personally
predisposed by fundamentalist theology to expect some kind of
Armageddon beginning with a nuclear war in the Middle East'." And,
further: 'If a crisis arises in the Middle East and threatens to
become a nuclear confrontation, might President Reagan be predisposed
to believe that he sees Armageddon coming and that this is the will of
God `
LB

By now, it should be abundantly clear to the entire world that George W.
Bush sees himself as the great Crusader, first by so-called "liberating" the
oppressed women of Afghanistan from the misogynistic rule of the Taliban,
then the oppressed people of Iraq from Saddam Hussein and now he is sabre
rattling against Iran who would dare develop nu-ka-lear bombs in secret that
are surely intended to be used against America and its allies. Surprise,
surprise. What if Iran already has them? Or they don't but the CIA reports
erroneously that they do, just like it did about Saddam's WMD. The stage is
being set for a pre-emptive nuclear first strike against Iran. Why Iran
and why nuclear strike? Because Iran is the hotbed of fundamentalist Islam
and they are Shiites. If free elections were held in Iraq, it would turn
into an Islamic republic. Did Bush "liberate" Iraq from the clutches of
Saddam Hussein so it could turn into Iran #2? If the people of Iraq demand
free elections, Iran will have to be destroyed and the stage is set for
that. How else are they going to bring a nation of 66 million people to
its knees except by nuclear force, like they did to Japan?
Indeed the prophecy of the Bible is not about a small band of an
insignificant Semitic tribe who can't even agree amongst themselves, not
even about the mere 2 million or so living in Israel today. It is about the
scattered descendants of the tribe of Jacob, i.e.: the children of Israel,
which is the Western Civilization. In short, it is about the entire
civilized world as we know it today. The line is being drawn between the
West and Islam and George W. Bush intends to lead the Final Crusade, the War
of Armageddon. So who is the Antichrist? And who is the False Prophet?
Why against Islam? Are the 2 billion Muslims all fanatical terrorists?
Obviously not. So why have they been vilified by the fundamentalist
Christians since 1,000 years? The enmity between the two religions was
created by Satan. Satan hates those who worship God, especially those that
prostrate five times a day in prayer, not sitting or standing or kneeing but
prostrating with forehead to the ground. How can Satan tolerate that when
humans are supposed to worship Baal, the golden calf, mammon, money? So
Muslims are to be persecuted for their faith and this is about to happen
once again, for the last time. To the great misfortune of Muslims, Satan
plays both sides. Just as George W. Bush is the leader of the Last Crusade,
Usama bin Laden is their False Prophet, urging all his faithful to strike at
America in a Jihad. Unfortunately, we will all suffer for it as there will
be no innocent bystanders with the luxury to observe from a distance. If
America is attacked, the global economic system will collapse. It will be
the "end of the world" as we know it.
How do I know that current events have anything to do with the Prophecy?
The clues are in the Book of Revelation and the symbols have meaning only
when it is time for its revelation. That time is now. Here are the clues:
1st clue: 666, the number of the beast. There are 2 beasts, one from the
sea and one from the land. There are all kinds of theories about the
identity of 666. In fact, the number of the beast is not 666 but 3 numbers:
600, 60 and 6. These numbers correspond to the Hebrew letters U (6), S
(60), M (600). USM stands for the U.S. Military, a beast of a war machine.
"Who can make war against it?" It also stands for US[a]M[a] as in Usama bin
Laden. Who can make war against illusive terrorism? These are the two
beasts directly manipulated by the Devil. The Dragon gave his power to the
first beast, that is, America. America is the named after Amerigo, the name
of a man. Usama is the name of a man. It was the second beast, Usama,
that caused fire to come down from the sky on Sept. 11 that caused the
entire world to follow [worship] the first beast. He will also be the cause
that every man, woman and child will wear the "mark" of the beast on his
right hand or forehead. That is because once Armageddon begins and America
is under attack, a microchip will be implanted in every person for security
reasons. The reason it will be in the hand or forehead is because it will
be matched against the finger print or retina of the bearer for
authenticity. The warning in the Prophecy is to not partake of the mark,
which, if you live in America, will be sedition result in persecution and
starvation as an outcast of society.
2nd clue: The adulterous woman arrayed in scarlet and purple and decked in
gold and pearls drunken with the blood of the saints. Scarlet is a red
color. Purple is a shade of blue. Pearls are white dots. And gold is the
trim of the U.S. flag. The Statue of Liberty was modelled after the body
of a French harlot and the face of the artist's mother. Hence, mother of
harlots wearing the Stars and Stripes. New York City is Babylon the Great.
3rd clue: The seven headed beast. If America is the beast from the sea,
what are the seven heads? The seven heads are the seven living Presidents:
Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. There's only 6, you say?
That's right. The seventh great seal hasn't yet opened. The seventh
president after George W. Bush will not be Kerri, Edwards or Dean.
Yes, folks, your worst nightmare will come true. It will be ***** Cheney.
Why? Because it is written in the Book or Revelation that the seventh will
rule for only a short time and the one that was, and is not, and yet is will
be the eighth and even he is one of the seven. This is a riddle. It means
George W. Bush will die while in office, at which time Vice President Cheney
becomes
the new president. But then, we're back to 6 living presidents, so where is
the 7th and the 8th?
Well, the Book of Revelation says the beast was mortally wounded in the head
but he comes back to life, and the world marvelled after the beast. He will
be 'resuscitated' as Nostradamus puts it. It will be a miracle and he will
have amazing powers and the evangelists will call him the Christ, here to
rule the world for 1,000 years. He was once dead but will now live forever
and he will liberate Israel from the Arabs. It is written that when the
8th head comes, he comes from the Abyss and he is the god of war, named
Abaddon or Apollyon. But then, he is also one of the seven. That's because
he will be the miraculously resuscitated George W. Bush who will literally
come back to life to rule the world.
It is written in the Book of Daniel that at that time, Archangel Michael
will come and save his people (meaning the people of Daniel, aka
Belteshazzar, i.e. the people of Persia). Archangel Michael is the Lord of
Hosts, the Son of God. He is the Lord Jesus Christ.
The great deception is upon the majority of Americans, who think by calling
themselves "Christian", they will be saved. In fact, they will be trapped
and enslaved by Satan who will be the resuscitated George W. Bush and they
will be forced to live like beasts.
Nostradamus writes that at Easter, the Abyss will open. This coming Easter
perhaps? The election might never happen. It may be too late. The Seventh
Seal is about to be opened and the Seventh Trumpet is about to sound.
Cesar
.
User: " +-{:-- owd old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet"

Title: Re: The truth about the rapture 12 Feb 2004 08:04:06 PM
cesar wrote:

"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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<massive snip for brevity, see thread above>
if you are interested in the Truth about Rapture and End Time Prophecy,
see the link at bottom,
use the search tool...
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http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
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User: "Dan"

Title: Re: The truth about the rapture 12 Feb 2004 05:18:35 PM
That was, without a doubt, the most (deliberately) hilarious
newsgroup posting that I have ever read in the nine years I've
ever had the displeasure of reading them. It was almost as good
as the (non-deliberately) hilarious 'Left Behind' series of
movies (based on the comic book series) themselves. Apparently,
after the Rapture occurred, there was nobody else around who
could do a decent job of acting, except those no-talent bozos
they hired for the job. Perhaps that's being harsh, considering
what the actors had to work upon, i.e. bad script, to begin with.
I rented the original 'Left Behind' video about a year ago, and
even while laughing so hard that I had to pause it every 30
seconds in order to regain my composure, what with Buck, and the
old prophet Daniel etc. doing their thing (I brought the video
back, unfinished, btw), that the tears running down my face at
the time might have also been shed, unknowingly or otherwise,
that behind that comedy lies a tragic truth, one quite obviously
outside the grasp of understanding of those who created those
books and movies.
Like this is going to stun you (not), that there are literally
hundreds of millions of people out there who actually believe in
such ***** as what they're spouting, meaning that God will
supernaturally reach down and take these people off the planet
just before the ultimate 'test' of their faith.
And, if the inevitable deaths of these same hundreds of millions
of well-meaning but deluded followers of Jesus Christ, at the
hands of Satan, his Antichrist and False Prophet, and their own
hundreds of millions of followers weren't such an obvious
inevitability too, that the whole thing could be the finest
comedy ever made.
However, the truth dictates a different outcome, one describing a
soon-to-become tragedy that nobody seems able to prevent, no
matter how many arguments against this heresy, based upon
exegesis, hermeneutics, observation, theory, logic, ultimate
outcome, and proofs are supplied. It is a comedy about to become
the biggest tragedy in human history.
The ancient Greeks would've had a field day with this one.
With much tears,
Dan
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User: "Saint Isidore of Laytonville"

Title: Re: The truth about the rapture 13 Feb 2004 11:48:41 AM
OK that's all fine and good. But, do I still get
to wear my tie dye robe when I'm raptured?
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
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http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me

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