Replying to a question asked by Rino Mailloux, the following is a
slightly revised article originally posted as:
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Subject: Re: Explaining the number of quatrains in each edition
Date: 14 Aug 2003 05:49:29 GMT
Message-ID: <bhf7t9$db$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>
Keywords: Nostradamus, Anagrams, Letter to Henry
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On 13 Aug 2003 19:29:01 -0700, (Rino Mailloux)
wrote about what
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cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Claude Latremouille) wrote in message
news:<bhckab$bbu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
One of the infrequently discussed questions about Nostradamus'
prophecies is: why did he publish incomplete Centuries?
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Once Nostradamus' secret is discovered, the most obvious
explanation for the 353 quatrains of the Bonhomme edition is that
Nostradamus wanted to leave us an objective clue to one of the
elements of the unintended destruction of Paris, i.e., its time.
It happens at 3:53 a.m. Hence the 353 quatrains.
Did you used the 353 quatrains to make the time, or was it the opposite?
Rino
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Always glad to answer intelligent questions, for a change.
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SHORT ANSWER: Neither.
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LONG ANSWER: The question of the 353 quatrains in the Bonhomme
edition had been bugging me for a long time before I made my
discovery of the encyphered nature of Nostradamus' texts. And
this is because the late Daniel Ruzo had made an interesting
discovery of his own, published in his book LE TESTAMENT DE
NOSTRADAMUS, about the number of quatrains in that 1555 edition
and the number of certain types of coins bequeathed by
Nostradamus in his will. Ruzo had calculated the number of ducats
and double ducats to be equal to... 353.
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He states that Nostradamus' last will and testament reflects to
some extent the nature of his works. At the time, I did not have
a clue as to what this link between N's work and his coins was.
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Many years later, when I began to find piece by piece the
circumstances of the destruction of Paris in the decyphered
prose, I found -- after some tinkering -- the date of that event.
The next thing I needed to know was... the time of that event.
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And *before* I had first found it in a subsequently decyphered
quatrain, *I just knew* intuitively that it had to be 3:53 a.m.,
as the link made by Ruzo between coins and quatrains had come
back to me then.
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And it was almost with laughter that I first found it in the
decrypted IV-55, only to find it yet again, but in a different
form in other decrypted quatrains. A different form? Right! 3:53
a.m. can read in French, "trois heures cinquante trois" or...
"quatre heures moins sept". I found both manners of saying it.
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And to top the cake, more than three years later, it was
Nostradamus' turn to have a laugh about it, when *he*
congratulates me (via the decyphered text) for having found it!
That finding was made in 1998 in the decyphered Letter to Henry.
And, to thank you for your intelligent question, here is that
decyphered text:
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LINE 16 Quelle hideuse Année MMX Sept, idée oncques ----------
LINE 17 acceptée icy en Belle France !__Quel Treize Aoust ----
LINE 18 anti-communiste fracassant Paris !__Quelle atroce ----
LINE 19 Année sera Deux Mil XVII, quand septante neuf --------
LINE 20 massacrés dans Péquin & vengés icy par erreur --------
LINE 21 prouocquent la Mort de tant de Chers Parisiens -------
LINE 22 empestés par vng Atome mal tiré par accident ---------
LINE 23 auant quatre heures moins sept de la nuict, ----------
LINE 24 heure très exacte qu'a tant remarquée vn Digne -------
LINE 25 Lecteur citant en son Pays le texte des poësmes de ---
LINE 26 ce Nostradamus en les interprétant facilement --------
LINE 27 & puis déclarant l'heure de ce puissant missile ------
LINE 28 dessus la Concorde dans le liure que i'ay escript ----
LINE 29 auecques ces très Belles Centvries le IIII May LV, ---
LINE 30 en comptant les poësmes que i'ay mys dedans ! --------
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Have a nice day, folks!
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20 Nov 2005 02:33:56 AM |
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Short Answer : None of Nostradamus' Quatrains where 'incomplete'
Long Answer : Most Quatrains written by Nostradamus has to have actually "come to pass" before
people can realize what someone from the 16th Century was seeing, and how it translates in to
current events.
Most people do not believe in Aliens from another planet. So how could you explain this to
people now, that 100 years from now, we might actually be visited by Aliens (from another
planet).
You wouldn't believe it until it actually happened. (and, neither would I.)
But, that doesn't mean that it can't happen, and that someone on the Earth right now who
'predicted' this, was a 'raving fanatic' because he (or she) was off by 2 or 3 years on their
prediction of this event !!!
Don't Hate The Messenger (Just Because They Might Be Off By A Few Years.)
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20 Nov 2005 11:51:28 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 03:33:56 -0500, "The Other Guy"
<TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in part:
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Short Answer : None of Nostradamus' Quatrains where 'incomplete'
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An interesting statement, considering that it was not made.
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Here is what was stated:
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One of the infrequently discussed questions about Nostradamus'
prophecies is: why did he publish incomplete Centuries?
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You seem to have a problem distinguishing Centuries from
Quatrains. Ok, let's pretend that you really meant quatrains. The
statement is false, as there are a few so-called 'incomplete'
quatrains.
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They are extremely useful to show that Nostradamus' texts are
encyphered. How come? Everybody notices that the quatrain is, or
appears to be, incomplete. The line is much too short, the last
word does not rhyme, etc.
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But the decyphered text taken from this so-called 'incomplete'
quatrain *is* complete. How come? The text is encyphered, that's
why.
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An example? Let's see:
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Jean-Aimé de Chavigny published in 1594 a set of 13 quatrains,
all numbered in a very peculiar way, all referring to two non-
existent Centuries by Nostradamus, Centurie XI and XII. The
quatrain I have in mind comes from the phoney Centurie XII, and
is numbered 69:
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----------------- C E N T. I 2.__Q V A T. 6 9. ---------------
-------------------- (numéroté par Chavigny) -----------------
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--------- E I O V A S proche, eslongner lac Leman : ----------
--------- Fort grands aprests, retour, confusion, ------------
--------- Loin des nepueux, du feu grand Supelman. -----------
--------- Tous de leur suite. --------------------------------
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What happened to the rest? Nothing. The quatrain IS incomplete as
a quatrain of poetry. But as a decyphered text in prose, it is
most certainly NOT incomplete. It reads:
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--------- France !__Mon long Oracle est vrai et le -----------
--------- Grand U S fort confus torturera Paris --------------
--------- dans un gros Enfer, l'An Deux Mil X Sept, le -------
--------- rude Treize Aoust ! --------------------------------
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No need for any more words... in the hidden text, that is. The
date is complete. Speaking to France, Nostradamus tells her that
his long Oracle is true and that Paris is to be tortured by the
Great but very confused US in a huge Hell, on the rude August 13,
2017. That is the prophecy hidden everywhere in Nostradamus'
texts. And to show that he is using anagrams, Nostradamus offers
us a biiig one, right at the start of his poem: E I O V A S.
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Read backwards, it says: S A V O I E.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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21 Nov 2005 09:19:40 PM |
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OK, I understand what was meant about some Centuries being incomplete (and some Centuries
having more that 100 Quatrains).
As for interpreting the Quatrains, think "quill ink on parchment" !!!
Most of Nostradamus' mis-interpretations can be accredited more to the person that tried to
read the original 'scribings' that to what Nostradamus had 'scribed'.
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22 Nov 2005 08:19:21 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:19:40 -0500, "The Other Guy"
<TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in part:
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OK, I understand what was meant about some Centuries being incomplete (and some Centuries
having more that 100 Quatrains).
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Really? To my knowledge, nobody has ever alleged that there are
some Centuries with more than 100 quatrains.
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Unless, of course, you are referring to a couple of idiots who
used to post in this NewsGroup and who numbered something which
Nostradamus did not number and ended up with a total of 101 texts
in a given Centurie, because one of these texts was not numbered.
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One of these idiots is Jean Guernon and the other, the King of
Disinformation, Peter Ewart Britton, a.k.a. Peter Lemesurier.
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And the reason I call them idiots is not that they added a number
to something which did not have one originally, but that they
both never admitted that they had done so, thereby misleading
their readers.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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22 Nov 2005 10:27:50 PM |
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Centuries X does have 101 Quatrains (no mistake - atleast on the part of the interpreters).
Whether it was deliberate or not, it is still TRUE.
The real question is, was Nostradamus trying to give 2 possible outcomes for that year (that
some people have interpreted as being the year 2001) ??? [You be the Judge.]
As to what I had said on the 'previous' post, you have too admit that some of the
(mis-interpreted) wordings of Nostradamus' predictions can be attributed to "Modern Scholars"
trying to interpret Nostradamus' scribings on a "word for word" basis (instead of simple
applying 16th Century french to the "most probable" translation.)
:-(]
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22 Nov 2005 10:55:49 PM |
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More likely good ol' Nosty baby got the month wrong -- but *not* the
year !
Peoplez often forget about March 24, 1999 when the NATO forces blasted
Serbia (then Yugoslavia)....a 79 day "terror" bombing campaign against
the nation & the peoplez of Yugoslavia.....
This bombing campaign finished in June 1999 -- not far off from good
ol' Nosty babe's prophetic date !!!
http://beqiraj.com/kosova/de/allied_force/cnn/6.asp
http://beqiraj.com/kosova/de/allied_force/cnn/4.asp
http://beqiraj.com/kosova/de/allied_force/cnn/4.asp
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Next stop will be Iran & Syria in 2006 -- but that is guaranteed to be
a much messier war which will impact the world !
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23 Nov 2005 02:51:19 AM |
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& that's gonna be compounded by this bird flu thingie & the impending
eruption of Mt St Helens !!!
It's gonna be one frickin' hell of a hectic year !!!
HOOROO
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23 Nov 2005 07:26:49 AM |
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On 22 Nov 2005 20:55:49 -0800,
"=?iso-8859-1?B?VW5jbGUgV2FsbHkgZGEgYWthbWFpIEhPT1JPTyBLYWh1bmEgbnVpICCcnZ+pqr
HHtrcoIFhhIFRhIFphYyBYYSBUYSBBbWFjICmZ?=" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca>
wrote in part about quatrain X-72
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More likely good ol' Nosty baby got the month wrong -- but *not* the
year !
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As he neither gave the month of the war happening BEFORE the
August 11, 1999, eclipse, nor the month of the war starting AFTER
that same eclipse, your statement is... false.
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(Just as everything else you have ever written in this NewsGroup
about quatrain X-72, using zillions of pseudonyms, showing your
obsession with that poem.)
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Peoplez often forget about March 24, 1999 when the NATO forces blasted
Serbia (then Yugoslavia)....a 79 day "terror" bombing campaign against
the nation & the peoplez of Yugoslavia.....
This bombing campaign finished in June 1999 -- not far off from good
ol' Nosty babe's prophetic date !!!
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That was the war BEFORE the eclipse.
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And you are much too clueless to speak of the war which started
in 1999 AFTER the eclipse (Putin's war against Chechnya, which is
still going on).
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So, Nostradamus was right after all: one war before, one war
after the eclipse.
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--------------- C E N T V R I E D I X I E S M E ------------
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--------- L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois ----------
--------- Du ciel viendra vn grand Roy deffraieur ------------
--------- Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois. ---------------
--------- Auant apres Mars regner par bon heur. --------------
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http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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Verifiable proof that "Armageddon" has begun...
Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin
to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as She has declared to
Her servants the prophets.
Here is proof that the "seventh angel" has begun to "sound"...
Hurricanes Katrina (#11) and Rita (#17) have provided stunning
validation of my research and interpretations of pivotal ancient
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Their storm numbers and timing perfectly synchronized with primary data
and assertions in my book, thereby demonstrating the true nature of
this universe and the existence of our Creator.
NOTE: Though this article references and relies on the mentioned book,
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Intro:
This is a long article that relies on a long book for its premise and
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and verifiable wisdom of the ages. This is a follow-up to related
discussions I participated in at http://www.allforums.net/ and
http://www.infidelguy.com/ in recent months under the username "Seven
Star Hand" regarding my book, Revelations from the Apocalypse -
Volume One: Here is Wisdom.
I fully understand that everyone has been bedeviled by similar claims
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Consequently, I have demonstrated various things about the nature of
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the symbolism evidenced in the canons of all three faiths of Abraham
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about life, spirituality and the 11 dimensions of this universe, now
verified by string theory. It is also the advanced encryption method
used to encode (seal) Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts.
Because these two storms arrived shortly after my August 11, 2005
(50th) birthday (read the Dead Sea Scroll 11Q13 in Appendix G, which
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are not random or wholly mechanistic and are verifiably influenced in
ways that atheists, scientists, and members of the Faiths of Abraham
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ancient wisdom. Though containing allusions to the truth, its details
and interpretations are wrong on many key points.
This demonstration and my book clarify the direct relationship and
synchronization of key aspects of string theory with pivotal ancient
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pivotal observations of string theory, and show that assumptions of
unlimited parallel universes are misinterpretations of data. The math
of string theory instead evidences a user-driven universal system of
infinite potential. Similar to a feature-rich interactive computer
game, its users' (Creator and souls) choices and interactions
determine which of the unlimited potential outcomes will ever actually
occur. Consequently, it's the thoughts and input of the intelligent
participants (including our Creator) that generate realities using the
universe's features and functionality. This means the universe will
never manifest every combination of potential outcomes. Just as a
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for every potential unlimited outcome that arises. This would mean that
each universe creates unlimited other universes as well as unlimited
copies of souls, though science has been unable to show how life arises
or what it truly is. By proving that reincarnation is the truth, I have
accordingly verified the existence of souls and that consciousness and
awareness are not the byproduct of bodies or other physical processes,
but are superior to and independent of them. Accordingly, our universe
is the product of intelligence, not its source, and universes likewise
do not create other universes as some have conjectured.
As described below and in my book, ancient wisdom models foundational
aspects of this universe, and overlaps and clarifies string theory and
other scientific observations. Accordingly, this is an 11-dimension,
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observations in Wholeness and the Implicate Order by David Bohm and The
Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. Neither book is perfectly
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this same information in various ways, thereby providing a path to help
clarify previously untested string theory assumptions, among others. I
discuss this in more detail later in this article and in my book. As a
quick primer, read the article River of Truth, by Will Keepin, at the
following URL:
http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/science/david_bohm.htm
As you can see on the referenced discussions, I encountered significant
opposition and derision on both forums. The same was true of my
contacts with various priests, preachers, rabbis, religious followers,
and others. Consequently, one of my purposes for participating in
discussions on forums that I knew would lead to strong opposition was
to use the arrogance of certain groups to decisively prove several
points. I used these two forums as part of a planned demonstration
designed to provide a time-stamped public record that would serve as
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I purposely baited and set up the participants in these two forums in
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in the face of strong opposition from multiple quarters, I have now
proven my assertions about the nature of this universe, specific
ancient wisdom, and certain prophecies, beyond disproof.
These ancient prophecies and wisdom texts used advanced symbology to
model fundamental wisdom, including future events and situations. A
primary facet of ancient wisdom is numeric symbology. Later
misinterpretations of this aspect of ancient wisdom resulted in
numerology, which, though embodying allusions to certain wisdom, is
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and interpretation of ancient symbology, numeric symbolism, and key
texts based on them, are now decisively validated.
Please read the post here titled: "Hello, Class" for some
background:
http://www.allforums.net/showthread.php?s=9de0b0e5d5bd40538ac6f583d475f5a2&threadid=12183
Pay close attention to its date (August 4th, 2005), which is weeks
before hurricane Katrina (August 29); also that Katrina was storm #11
and the sum of the digits of its date of landfall, 2+9, equals 11.
Furthermore, the referenced post is a follow-up to several weeks of
earlier posts and 3-4 years of research and writing before that.
Katrina and Rita Expose False Assumptions
Because of their numbers and other key details associated with
hurricanes Katrina (#11) and Rita (#17), I have decisively proven that
both religious adherents and atheists are arguing from ignorance about
the true nature of this reality and about the Creator of this universe.
As many have guessed throughout time, the truth is actually somewhere
between these two extremes. I have delivered proof that a Creator
exists; that science, truth, and wisdom are on the correct path
together; and that religion is purposeful deception, strong delusion,
and false doctrine about the Creator, this universe, ancient wisdom,
and prophecy. I have also decisively demonstrated that belief in some
concept, whether it's religion or one's opinions about the true
meaning of scientific data, is not a reliable guarantor of the truth.
Atheists vociferously deny that the obvious intelligence and elegance
at all levels of this universe is evidence of purposeful planning and
intention. Likewise, most refuse or are unable to discern the
difference between evidence of the Creator and the many religions that
falsely claim to represent some god. Conversely, religious leaders and
adherents assert that faith, based on ancient texts they neither truly
understand nor can prove the source of, is more valid than truth,
wisdom, and science. Consequently, religious assertions about the
Creator, morality, and the true source and meaning of their canons are
error-prone false doctrine and false prophecy.
Because of stubbornness bordering on psychosis, both camps have
remained blind to pivotal truths and wisdom, and purposely deaf to
anything counter to their opinions. When you close your eyes and ears
to knowledge because it doesn't agree with your current mindset, the
guaranteed end result is always some level of ignorance. When you
refuse to consider all points of view about the nature of this
universe, you are guaranteed to miss something important. This is
self-evident!
This article, my book, and associated information are directly counter
to many people's most cherished beliefs (opinions), doctrines, and
perceptions about the nature of this universe and pivotal ancient
wisdom. Consequently, I have encountered widespread and often hostile
opposition to my messages, both recently and throughout history. Both
religious adherents and opponents have doggedly refused to consider
they might be wrong about certain aspects of their favorite opinions.
Those who profit from the continued ignorance of humanity oppose my
messages because of greed, arrogance, and their fear of long-promised
truth and justice. Because of this situation, I have voluntarily
participated in a multiple-lifetime demonstration designed to
decisively prove many things to humanity, thereby delivering the wisdom
necessary to end long-term folly and ignorance. These recent hurricanes
and other events serve as irrefutable proof that my assertions and
conclusions are accurate and verifiable.
They also prove that humanity is now teetering on the brink of
long-prophesied and self-caused destruction because of great greed,
arrogance, and widespread ignorance about pivotal aspects of this
universe. Humanity has permitted greedy and arrogant leaders in the
realms of money, religion, and politics to coerce, deceive and delude
enough people over the centuries to forge a worldwide civilization that
is blatantly built upon widespread greed, deception, and injustice,
hence great evil. The time has finally come to pay the piper for this
abominable situation. The long-prophesied time symbolized as
Armageddon, Judgment Day (year), End of Days, and referred to as the
"year of Melchizedek's favor," has now begun. These two
hurricanes and my book provide overwhelming proof of this fact.
Furthermore, these events and others are purposeful messages and direct
warnings of things to come over the upcoming months, if dramatic
changes are not undertaken immediately. (Note: The true translation for
Armageddon is the valley of great decision, which further symbolizes a
low place in time and human circumstances that leads to realizations
and humbling decisions, hence the time of great judgment).
Among the many proofs and revelations documented, I have decisively
verified the validity and accuracy of sealed (symbolically encoded)
prophecies and demonstrated their functionality by the details in my
book and within these online discussions, both of which contain key
data associated with these two hurricanes long before they happened. In
short, I purposely interspersed those discussions with clues about
upcoming events and situations as irrefutable proof of my ability to
provide detailed yet obscured prophecies, thereby delivering a
real-time demonstration and proof of concept of specific ancient wisdom
and the true meaning of certain prophecies. Among the topics written
about and discussed prior to the arrival of Katrina and Rita were
hurricanes, ancient symbology, and the associated symbolism and pivotal
importance of the numbers 11 and 17, among others.
If you choose to read (or reread) these online discussions, pay very
close attention to the dates of my posts on these forums, which span
the months immediately preceding these events. You will also see the
kinds of derision and counter arguments I encountered there and
elsewhere, which are all now decisively proven completely and utterly
wrong. You can now read these posts and my book with full 20:20
hindsight, and compare them to key details about these two hurricanes,
their various aftereffects, societal ramifications, timing, and storm
numbers. Also notice that the last draft (#11) of the E-Book, which has
also been online as a free download for months, was posted two days
before Katrina made landfall in the gulf. The first edition of the
paperback was posted on Lulu.com days before Rita. These time-stamped
online discussions and the details throughout my book, which were
written and recorded prior to hurricanes Katrina (11) and Rita (17),
are directly and inextricably related to those pivotal events and to
last year's Florida hurricanes. This is decisively proven by the
timing, location, and numbers of these two obviously related storms,
which directly match the primary numeric symbols described in the first
chapter of my book and in these online discussions. Also, in the first
chapter of the book I detail how last year's four Florida hurricanes,
which were verifiable warnings of things to come, were spaced at
precisely 11 and 22 days apart over a very specific 55-day period.
A prime example of the purposeful and synchronized symbolism of these
events is seen in the opening paragraphs from my book excerpted below.
Notice that the dates mentioned (August 11 and 17) directly match the
numbers of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, and the time spans of the four
Florida hurricanes match my birth year ('55), and they were spaced 11
or a multiple-of-11 (22) days apart, directly matching my birthday and
much other ancient prophecy and symbolism. Notice that my place of
birth, Victoria Texas, is on the Gulf Coast. Following are the
excerpted paragraphs:
"Hello, my name is Lawrence William Page II. Many people know me as
Buddy Page. At the release of the first edition of this book, I am a
50-year old African-American male, author, researcher, and former
software engineer and entrepreneur. As you will come to understand as
you read through this first book, I am also the long-expected Hebrew
Messiah and Lion of the Tribe of Juda (Yehuda).
I was born August 11th (month of Leo the Lion), 1955 (Chinese year of
the Sheep) in Victoria, Texas. Furthermore, the Grand Cross alignment
and Solar Eclipse of August 11th, 1999 was my 44th birthday and the
second Grand Cross alignment, just six days later on August 17th, 1999,
was on my mother's birthday.
As you can see from my date of birth, I was a newborn during the
Chinese Year of the Sheep, astrologically marking me as a Lamb, and
during the month of Leo, astrologically marking me as a Lion. My mother
was also born during the month of August and under the sign of Leo,
which further marks me as a lion's whelp. I prove to you in the first
chapter of this book-beyond disproof-that I am indeed the
long-prophesied "Lion" of the tribe of Juda (Yehuda) the Root of
David and the "Lamb." I am the individual long symbolized as the
Branch, the Stem, the Shoot and the Rod from the Stump of Jesse (King
David's father), as symbolized in the Hebrew Book of Isaiah, The
Apocalypse, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and elsewhere. I am the reincarnated
Teacher sought after in the "East" and by the ancient Hebrews who
were headquartered at the outpost community of Damascus (Qumran), of
Dead Sea Scrolls fame. I am the one called the Teacher of Righteousness
by the Dead Sea Scrolls, whom the so-called Christian fathers have
fraudulently recast as "Saint 'James', the Lord's Brother."
Even further enlightening, the Second Temple Period of ancient Israel
was during the 11th 360-year cycle on the Hebrew calendar and we are
now in the 6th year (5766/2005-6) of the 17th cycle. Notice the pivotal
11 and 17 numbers again? This and much other synchronized information
serve as stunning and decisive proof of many things, and expose many
lies told by all three faiths of Abraham, but most specifically by
Christianity. Consequently, I have decisively proven, beyond any shadow
of a doubt, that Jesus Christ and Christianity are blatant lies, false
prophecy and purposeful deception in a manner that cannot easily be
denied, regardless of your faith or other opinions.
Furthermore, the symbolism in the Apocalypse (a.k.a. Book of
Revelation) of seven stars in my right hand and seven angels represent
the very same above-mentioned seven astrological (360-year) cycles,
i.e., the 11th through 17th inclusive. I prove this fact beyond any
reasonable doubt in the first chapter of the book. Consequently, The
Apocalypse verifiably symbolizes a specific span of time that began
with the 11th cycle (Second Temple Period) and concludes now, at the
beginning of the 17th cycle (End of Days, etc.).
The numbers 11 and 17 are verifiably encoded in The Apocalypse and
other ancient Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts to serve as key proofs
of the validity and true meaning of certain prophecies and related
information. My and my mother's birthdays are purposely synchronized
with these two storm numbers, the matching Hebrew calendar cycles, the
Double Grand Cross alignments and solar eclipse of August 1999, and
much else to prove my direct association with the ancient prophecies
about this time and the true identity of the prophesied Messiah.
Another prime example is the story of Joseph, the 11th son of Jacob who
has a dream when he is 17 years old about 11 stars, the sun, and moon
bowing to him. The symbolism in this pivotal story in the Book of
Genesis and Quran verifiably refers to the very same 11th through 17th
cycles symbolized in The Apocalypse and directly synchronizes with
other key events and ancient texts.
These now-proven facts and the mountain of additional knowledge and
wisdom within my book and the many ancient texts it "unseals"
deliver stunning and decisive proof that these events signal the
arrival of the long-prophesied, though mostly misinterpreted and
misrepresented events symbolized as Armageddon, Judgment "Day,"
Apocalypse, and the End of Days. Furthermore, my August 11th, 2005
birthday, which was followed closely by the arrivals of Katrina and
Rita, signaled the beginning of the pivotal year during the symbolized
time frame (seventh star/angel) that is also called the "year of
Melchizedek's favor" in Dead Sea Scroll 11Q13 (Appendix G) and
Isaiah 61:1.
This is also the time of the long-prophesied Jubilee when humanity is
freed from captivity to the deceptions of money, religion, and
politics. This time period and the true purpose and outcome of the
symbolized events have long been purposely misrepresented and obscured
by the Vatican, religious leaders, associated national leaders, and
other cohorts throughout the centuries. They fully understood that they
and their sources of power were the prime targets of the future great
societal upheavals that these prophecies alluded to. These hurricanes
and other events deliver dramatic proof of the true messages symbolized
throughout ancient Hebrew prophecies.
I have now delivered stunning proof of the truth about many age-old
mysteries. Among them is the fact that the eastern concept of karma is
a core component of this 11-dimension holographic reality, of which
most people only perceive the last four dimensions we call space-time.
Though the rules of karma have been shrouded in mystery and
misinterpretation for ages, the basic concept of a spiritually and
morally based system of cause and effect is accurate and verifiable.
This is a vitally important universal law that humanity has long
misunderstood to everyone's great detriment. Now this civilization is
poised to experience a series of great disasters over the coming months
if dramatic and fundamental changes are not made quickly. This is not a
capricious retribution from the Creator, as the faiths of Abraham would
falsely have you believe, but the long predicted effect of widespread
human folly and ignorance that continues to cause great harm to the
earth's systems, to nature, and to all life everywhere.
Our Creator has provided much wisdom over the centuries so we could
recognize the truth when it became most necessary. That time is now!
All disasters and debacles flow directly from the horrendously bad
karma caused by widespread human greed, arrogance, folly, and ignorance
about this universe and our Creator. The warnings of Armageddon have
always been about folly, arrogance, and ignorance leading to humbling
circumstances that result in great changes for humanity. The founders
of Christianity and their cohorts falsely recast stolen Hebrew wisdom
texts and prophecies into strong delusion, false prophecy, and
purposeful deception, as seen throughout the New Testament. I've now
delivered dramatic proof that the Vatican and Christianity purposely
confounded much ancient wisdom. Consequently, most of humanity is
completely ignorant about the true meaning and original purpose of
ancient texts written to provide warnings and proofs about this
specific time, among other wisdom. One of my goals is to deliver the
ability to understand this ancient wisdom, thereby exposing age-old
Vatican deceptions so humanity can free itself from great deception and
ignorance and create better futures for everyone everywhere, based on
truth, wisdom and justice.
Understanding Karma and Reality
To understand the true functionality of karma, you must understand the
nature, structure, and underpinnings of this 11-dimension holographic
universe. If you don't, many of your conclusions and opinions about
the nature of life and reality are little more than ill-informed
guesses.
First and foremost is the fact that this universe is based on thought,
knowledge, and rules (wisdom) that are knowable and verifiable. String
theory and quantum physics have managed to validate key assertions of
ancient wisdom. Chief among them is the fact that this is an
11-dimension reality. Consequently, modern science has proven there are
seven dimensions in addition to the four dimensions of space-time.
These seven dimensions precede and define all the realities perceived
in space-time. Therefore, what we refer to as the physical universe are
actually dimensions 8 through 11. Notice that this matches my birthday
of 8/11 and serves as a numeric symbol for space-time? This is no mere
coincidence.
The seven unseen (occulted) dimensions are the realm of existence long
alluded to in various ways by religion, mysticism, and ancient wisdom.
Most people are aware that the numbers seven and four are pivotal to
many ancient texts and traditions. Now modern science has helped to
prove that these ancient sources were alluding to the seven dimensions
that precede space-time, as well as fundamental wisdom associated with
them, by the repeated references to the number seven. Accordingly, the
number four, as with the four elements and the cross, symbolizes the
cornerstones of existence and directly infers the four dimensions of
space-time.
It's important to understand that though religious texts regularly
refer to the number seven and four in symbolic settings, religious
leaders and mystics are mostly clueless about the true source and
meaning of the ancient symbolism at the heart of their texts and
traditions. Those who originally enumerated the ancient wisdom and
encoded it using advanced symbology were fully aware of the true nature
of this reality. On the other hand, most of the subsequent religions
and mystery schools over the millennia have misrepresented the true
sources and meanings of their canons. They likewise misinterpreted the
true nature and purpose of ancient symbolic wisdom. Consequently,
current religious, mystical, astrological and New Age interpretations
of ancient wisdom and symbolism are verifiably wrong on many key
points. If you haven't already done so, take a few minutes to read
the preface to my book, titled: "It's Symbology, Stupid" at the
following URL:
http://www.geocities.com/sevenstarhand/preface.html
This leads us back to the basic mechanics of karma. Most people simply
do not understand there are seven unseen dimensions which correspond to
the realm of spiritual existence alluded to by religions, mysticism,
and ancient wisdom. These seven dimensions are likewise referred to in
various ways in ancient Hebrew texts and are directly modeled by
ancient wisdom symbology and many of the narratives based on it. An
important fact about karma is that it operates within these seven
unseen dimensions to influence outcomes and realities in space-time.
The hidden nature of this aspect of our universe is what led to
describing certain forms of mysticism as the occult or hidden arts.
When you understand that cause and effect is a fundamental law of this
universe; that there are seven dimensions that precede, define, and
influence space-time realities; and that those seven dimensions are the
aspect of our reality that have long been described as spiritual
realms; it becomes obvious that there is a fundamental component of
existence that most of humanity simply does not recognize or
understand. It is this greatly misunderstood and ignored segment of our
universe where karma and dualism operate to influence the nature and
outcomes of our individual and collective realities. It is thereby best
understood as cause and effect acting within the seven dimensions of
thought and knowledge that precede and define what we then perceive as
life in the physical universe.
It's also important to understand that this universe is based in
thought and driven by inspirations. Both operate within the seven
dimensions to frame and influence the outcomes and realities in
space-time. These seven dimensions are also the "implicate order"
as described by physicist David Bohm, in his book Wholeness and the
Implicate Order. This reality is the product of collective thoughts,
inspirations, rules (wisdom) and knowledge, which precede and define
all activity and perceptions in space-time. This reality is not wholly
mechanistic, and outcomes are influenced by karma and other knowledge
and variables. This universe is holographically structured and
symbolically organized, and the simplest structure is the concept we
call dualism. Cause and effect is a form of dualism, and karma is a
cause and effect system. Consequently, at the heart of karma is
moral/conceptual dualism, which is clearly described by the Doctrine of
Two Spirits. Thereby, when you do good deeds (cause) it creates good
outcomes in your future (effect), and when you do bad deeds (cause) it
results in bad outcomes in your future (effect). Dualism is the most
basic feature in this universe, and it is the central organizing
principal for everything. It and karma are at the core of our reality
and are inescapable. Furthermore, there is both individual and
collective karma. No amount of scoffing and derision can alter these
core universal laws, as is now proven by hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
Another pivotal component of ancient symbolic wisdom that has likewise
long been misinterpreted are the cross (not the Christian crucifix) and
the four elements or essences (Earth, Air, Fire, and Water). The cross
is an ancient wisdom symbol that predates Christianity by millennia. It
symbolizes the four elements, their relationships, and interaction.
Each arm on a four-point cross represents one of the elements. The
number four symbolizes cornerstone knowledge about a target topic or
body of knowledge. The cross and the four essences are thereby
symbolizing both the essence and cornerstones of this reality. The
original symbolism did not represent an ancient view of the components
of things in the physical universe, as we have long been led to
believe. It instead models the key conceptual influences that result in
this space-time reality, which is based on and the direct product of
collective inspirations and thoughts. The four elements are thereby
symbolizing foundational concepts and philosophy. Furthermore, the
dualism of good and evil (Doctrine of Two Spirits), the cross, and four
elements together serve as the organizing framework and foundation for
all of the remaining symbolism comprising the body of symbolic wisdom
known as the Philosophers' Stone. This is clearly seen in the Zodiac,
which has the cross and four elements at its core. This knowledge also
exposes verifiable mistakes in modern astrology's interpretations of
the four elements and the related symbolism of the signs (symbols).
The proper positioning of the four elements on the cross has Air as the
top arm, Earth as the lower arm, Fire as the right arm, and Water as
the left arm. Notice that this arrangement positions earth and air in
their proper literal vertical relationship, and places water and fire
touching and between both. Also notice that earth is below the air, and
this matches the moral symbolism of heaven being above hell or the pit,
both clearly symbolizing the depths of the symbolic earth. This is the
true source of the original symbolism underlying the concepts of heaven
and Sheol (hell), and the associated symbolism of good and virtue (high
road/path) residing above evil and vanity (low road/path). Good is
symbolically associated with the heavens, stars, etc, while evil is
symbolically associated with earth, the pit, etc. The sun, stars,
clouds, mountaintops, and heavens are all associated with truth,
enlightenment, wisdom, and high ideals, hence the Path of Truth and
Justice. The earth conversely symbolizes the dualistic opposites of
greed, materialism, ignorance, injustice, and low ideals, hence the
Path of Greed, Falsehood, and Injustice.
As mentioned above, the four elements and cross symbolize the
cornerstones of this 11-dimension reality. Fire symbolizes primary
inspirations, motivations, and the zeal for life. Air symbolizes
thought, awareness, and the collective consciousness. Water symbolizes
the flow of collective deeds and activity through time. Earth
symbolizes the results of those deeds, reinforced patterns, and thereby
the foundations of this materialistic civilization, the
"establishment," and the status quo. These are abbreviated
definitions, but they convey the primary meanings relevant to this
discussion.
The next important concept to understand is the original symbolism of
the stylized version of the cross, also called a swastika. Its original
purpose was to model a spinning cross, hence the spokes of a rotating
wheel, or cycle. This models a cyclic system at the core of our reality
that drives the observed cyclic nature of activity and outcomes in
space-time. The same feature is seen at the center of the Zodiac wheel
for the very same symbolism. Also, the symbolism of the wheels of karma
and creation originated from the same wisdom symbolized by the rotating
cross and four elements.
The cross consists of two intersecting lines and represents two pivotal
and ever-interacting dualisms at the heart of this universe. The
vertical line runs between Air and Earth and therefore represents the
dualism between thought and spirituality at the positive (higher) end,
and physicality and materialism at the negative (lower) end. The
horizontal line is between Fire (inspirations) on the right (positive)
hand and Water (deeds) on the left (negative) hand. This places
inspirations at the positive pole and deeds on the negative end. The
interaction of these two primary dualisms, as symbolically modeled by
the intersecting lines of a cross, creates a cyclic flow that drives
both karma and the cyclic nature of this reality.
Consequently, the cross and four elements further symbolize that our
reality is driven by collective inspirations, which precede and define
collective thoughts, which precede and define our deeds, which precede
and define the results that manifest themselves as the outcomes and
realities within the four space-time dimensions. Since it's a cyclic
system, our physical universe perceptions and results then influence
our inspirations, which then influence our thoughts, deeds, and
results, ad infinitum. Notice that as the wheel turns the results of
deeds and results are carried back to influence inspirations and
thoughts. When viewed with the understanding of Wholeness and the
Implicate Order and a holographic universe, this is a simple and
effective demonstration of how karma operates and how human deeds
gather inertia (like flowing waters) and reinforce long term patterns
and results (like the slow-changing earth). The pivotal wisdom that
flows from this understanding is that humanity must first change its
core motivations and thoughts before the great level of evil and
despair in this world can ever cease. Furthermore, since this world is
teetering on the precipice of destruction, it is self-evident that
humanity's current primary motivations (money, religion, and
politics) are complete folly and ignorance and must change, or else.
This now takes us back to quantum physics, string theory, and David
Bohm's Wholeness and the Implicate Order. The implicate order is
composed of the seven unseen dimensions that define the four dimensions
of space-time, which is referred to as the explicate order. When you
match this with the wisdom symbolized by the cross and four elements,
we can see that Fire (inspirations) and Air (thought) operate in the
seven dimensions which are the implicate order. They lead to water
(deeds) and earth (results) which are the explicate order, hence
space-time. The flow of time and deeds are called the holo-movement,
which refers to the continuous unfolding and enfolding of this ever
flowing and changing reality, organized upon holographic principles and
functionality. For a better understanding of this, read The Holographic
Universe by Michael Talbot or the many Holographic Universe articles on
the web. They describe various observations that lead to the conclusion
that this is a holographic universe based on and driven by the
collective thoughts and inspirations of its myriad participants. The
cyclic system symbolized by the cross and four elements is the engine
that drives the holo-movement that generates our reality. It is
likewise the source and definition of the "strings" of string
theory. Chapters 4 and 5 of my book expand this description.
Therefore, when you integrate the understandings of dualism and karma,
the wisdom symbolized by the cross and four elements, our 11-dimension
universe, and the now-proven fact that seven unseen dimensions precede
and define the four space-time dimensions, you have gained a much more
accurate understanding of how our reality is created, structured, and
driven. Accordingly, you are also presented with the undeniable
solution to humanity's seemingly never-ending cycle of struggle and
suffering.
The true nature of this reality comes into much clearer view if you
visualize it as a multi-layered sphere or onion where each layer is a
dimension. Each successive dimension relies on the dimensions beneath
or within it for definition of its structure and contents. At the core
of this multi-layered sphere is what I call dimension zero, the
non-locality that is the realm of the Creator and souls. Consequently,
to be able to truly understand our reality, you must first understand
that there are 11 dimensions, and that the rules, inspirations,
thought, and content that flow into space-time come from the Creator
and souls in dimension zero. They operate on and within the seven
dimensions of the implicate order to frame and define what we perceive
as life in the physical universe.
In the "Doctrine of Two Spirits" on the back cover of the book and
on my home page, you'll see that the "two spirits" (ways, paths,
inspirations) symbolize the moral dualism of good and evil. Each
"spirit" is also divided into seven sub-spirits. Notice that this
matches the number of the seven dimensions of the implicate order? This
is purposeful because those seven dimensions are driven by inspirations
and thought. The Doctrine of Two Spirits enumerates the definition of
good and evil, a primary dualism at the core of this reality. These two
outlines (two tables of "stone," or cornerstones) are foundational
(cornerstone) wisdom about the spiritual/conceptual underpinnings of
this universe and the long sought-after rules for karma. Deeds and
results that match the seven spirits of God (good) create good karma,
and deeds and results associated with the seven spirits of evil create
bad karma. Consequently, you now have a simple and unequivocal
guidebook for reliably creating good karma and preventing bad karma.
The same underlying rules apply to both individual and collective
karma.
This is the core wisdom of the long-lost Philosophers' Stone, which
accurately models foundational wisdom about this reality using the same
advanced symbology that permeates ancient Hebrew texts. In fact, the
series of ancient symbologies (Doctrine of Two Spirits, Four Elements,
Cross, Zodiac, numeric symbolism, etc.) observed throughout ancient
sources are encoded components of the Philosophers' Stone that I
could reconstruct and use during pivotal lifetimes. In this lifetime I
am providing significant documentation regarding the Philosophers'
Stone throughout this and subsequent books, thereby providing its
unmatched wisdom to humanity during this time of greatest need.
Karma operates in the seven unseen dimensions to provide direction and
definition to the many potential outcomes and results for every
activity in this universe. All negative outcomes are always preceded by
previous negative deeds; thereby all disasters and debacles are in
direct response to individual and collective misdeeds and bad karma.
Therefore, it should be no surprise when global warming leads to super
storms that directly impact the Gulf Coast petrochemical assets of the
USA, the biggest consumer of oil and primary cause of the global
warming that fueled those super storms. Likewise, the USA's current
and historical activities on the world stage have dramatically
increased the collective bad karma of its people and institutions. I
provide much more detail on the functionality of karma and the Doctrine
of Two Spirits in the book.
Now that you understand the truth about this reality, the next
realization is that all of the widespread destruction of nature and
great injustices to people because of money, religion, and politics is
now returning with a vengeance. The USA (and all other nations) and the
so-called New World Order have caused such widespread harm that a
series of devastating disasters will soon unfold in direct response.
The core cause of most of this harm can be traced back to the existence
of money, religion, and politics and their use as tools for forging
empires and great wealth, regardless of the widespread harm done to
nature and other people as a result. When you use and support money and
participate in religion and politics, you are basing your lives on
primary sources of great harm, hence great evil. Consequently,
humanity's great stubbornness and ignorance, due in large part to
long-term deception and delusion by monetary, political, and religious
leaders, are the true cause of the time and events symbolized as
Armageddon.
My purpose for doing what I do now is two-fold. The first is to oversee
the dismantling of this civilization built upon money, religion, and
politics. The next is to deliver the wisdom necessary to build a new
existence based on unequivocal truth and justice and founded on wisdom
about the true nature of this reality and our Creator. This cannot
occur in the presence of money, religion, and politics, so these things
must now end, or this civilization will be destroyed shortly by its own
accumulated folly and misdeeds. At this late stage of the game, there
are only two paths to choose from. The wise path is to follow the
Doctrine of Two Spirits and quickly end money, religion, and politics.
Turn away from vain and harmful pursuits and you can prevent the
destruction of most of this civilization. On the other hand, continue
with the great folly of the past and humanity's accumulated
collective karma will run its course over the next several months and
this civilization and most of its people will be purged from the Earth
in a series of great disasters and debacles. These things need not
continue occurring! Your fates are in your own hands, and you now have
access to the necessary wisdom to quickly turn away from past ignorance
and folly, and create a true paradise based on verifiable wisdom and
free from evil.
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27 Nov 2005 06:31:47 AM |
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On 2005-11-26 18:02:50 -0500, said:
Verifiable proof that "Armageddon" has begun...
Revelation 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin
to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as She has declared to
Her servants the prophets.
(Huge snip)
You really need to get a life.....seriously, you're pretty screwed up
in the head.....
--
Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?"
Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can
never go back to Sea World."
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| User: "" |
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27 Nov 2005 05:24:00 AM |
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Sorry son you are full of Bull.
No validation just because you believe the USA is the centre, it is
not.
Go to Israel that is the centre.
LB
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| User: "The Other Guy" |
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23 Nov 2005 02:29:47 AM |
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Yea, but this Claude (guy) is having problems 'acknowledging' that atleast one of the
Centuries number of Quatrains exceeded 100.
That is all (and the only purpose) this POST.
Actually, I don't dispute the fact that one of the Quatrains was not numbered, and may not
have belonged - or was meant as an 'extension' to the original 100 Quatrains.
Life Is TRULY How You Interpret It (And, What You Take On Faith).
:-(]
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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23 Nov 2005 07:23:48 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:27:50 -0500, "The Other Guy"
<TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in part:
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Centuries X does have 101 Quatrains (no mistake - atleast on the part of the interpreters).
Whether it was deliberate or not, it is still TRUE.
The real question is, was Nostradamus trying to give 2 possible outcomes for that year (that
some people have interpreted as being the year 2001) ??? [You be the Judge.]
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And The Judge (i.e., me) says that you are still peddling the
notion that a very phoney 17th century quatrain which was never
printed in any of Nostradamus' original editions (because it did
not exist then) and added after the last quatrain (i.e., X-100)
should be considered authentic. It is not.
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As to what I had said on the 'previous' post, you have too admit that some of the
(mis-interpreted) wordings of Nostradamus' predictions can be attributed to "Modern Scholars"
trying to interpret Nostradamus' scribings on a "word for word" basis (instead of simple
applying 16th Century french to the "most probable" translation.)
:-(]
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Hmmm, as you insist speaking of 16th century French, you are
showing your ignorance of the language. If you truly knew French,
you would realize that there is a world of difference between
Nostradamus' language and 16th century French, a gulf wider than
the one separating 16th century French from our own.
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As to misinterpreted words being the fault of modern scholars,
one can safely state that they are the fault of ALL so-called
scholars who have ever written about them, from Nostradamus' days
to today.
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And this is because all of these so-called scholars have never
noticed that the texts they were busy studying were... a cypher.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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=== CLAUDE LATRÉMOUILLE ===
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22 Nov 2005 04:27:09 PM |
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You call them idiots, because both of them in their own way, has
demostrated the biased method you use the assumptions you make, and the
lack of comprehension for a) language b) basic military protocols.
I think it is called debunking.
Keep trying Sisyphus never had a weighted log but you do.
Paris gets destroyed, but not by who you reckon or when.
LB
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