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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "Grantland"
Date: 29 May 2004 11:16:02 PM
Object: They Know and Still They Lie
From:
(Abu-Alwafa)
They Know and Still They Lie
M. Salahuddin
Arab News
Observers may wonder how an American president such as George Bush,
who has had to face one crisis after another as he seeks re-election,
could hold on to an unsuccessful, reckless and extremist secretary of
defense such as Donald Rumsfeld. And even more amazing that Bush would
go to the Pentagon to visit the secretary, declare his support for him
and praise his work?
Is it loyalty or machismo? Or is it political calculation? Simply put,
if Rumsfeld goes down, so will Bush.
It is naïve to speak of loyalty and machismo in the modern political
world because they are indeed rare these days. The reason for Bush's
visit is made clear by a report on NBC Nightly News on May 10. On the
program, the American reporter, Andrea Mitchell, confirmed that the
administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer, and US Secretary of State Colin
Powell had repeatedly warned both the president and the Pentagon about
the consequences of criminal torture in American prisons in Iraq and
that both Bush and Rumsfeld had ignored the warnings.
What else? The Associated Press in a report from the Geneva
headquarters of the Red Cross on May 10 said that NATO intelligence
officers had confirmed that between 70-90 percent of Iraqi prisoners
had been wrongfully arrested. A report by the US news agency confirmed
through high-level officials in the Red Cross, that the organization
had warned the American forces a number of times, both orally and in
writing, of torture and its consequences. Officials at the Red Cross
confirmed that the torture was not an isolated act or two by a few as
Bush and Rumsfeld have said but the methodical carrying out of a
system put in place by military intelligence and known to all.
Everyone knows and most regrettably, everyone is lying to their
people, legislative authorities and to the world at large. Their talk
of American principles and high morals and the horror they feel upon
hearing the news of the tortures - for the first time! - are pure lies
and hypocrisy. We do not deny the principles and high morals on which
the United States was built nor the mass of the American people's
commitment to those principles. Bush and Rumsfeld's talk of morals and
principles, however, are cheap lies.
They have lied over and over in their war on terrorism, their invasion
of Afghanistan and in the occupation of Iraq - all on the pretext of
weapons of mass destruction. They lied in many of their their
accusations about Islamic charitable organizations around the world.
These liars are the same ones who publish projects and announce that
they will rebuild homes, clean up societies, purify school curricula
and teach us all about liberty and human rights. The very liberty and
human rights they are abusing! Perhaps they will also give us lessons
in lying, trickery and deception in which they have become adept. We
do not blame them for so much trickery and deception - we blame our
own who have been promoting these Zionist-American projects even more
than the Americans themselves and have become more strict and harsh
toward their own people, skeptical of our history and violating its
principles more than ours worst enemies.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?D57732768
.

User: "The Athiest"

Title: Re: They Know and Still They Lie 30 May 2004 01:07:12 PM
Quite a funny "Subject" as this post cites an article by the Arab News. Can
you say Pot = Kettle?
Arab News = Subject of this post
"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40b95f76.1135971420@ct-news.iafrica.com...

From:

(Abu-Alwafa)

They Know and Still They Lie

M. Salahuddin

Arab News

Observers may wonder how an American president such as George Bush,
who has had to face one crisis after another as he seeks re-election,
could hold on to an unsuccessful, reckless and extremist secretary of
defense such as Donald Rumsfeld. And even more amazing that Bush would
go to the Pentagon to visit the secretary, declare his support for him
and praise his work?

Is it loyalty or machismo? Or is it political calculation? Simply put,
if Rumsfeld goes down, so will Bush.

It is naïve to speak of loyalty and machismo in the modern political
world because they are indeed rare these days. The reason for Bush's
visit is made clear by a report on NBC Nightly News on May 10. On the
program, the American reporter, Andrea Mitchell, confirmed that the
administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer, and US Secretary of State Colin
Powell had repeatedly warned both the president and the Pentagon about
the consequences of criminal torture in American prisons in Iraq and
that both Bush and Rumsfeld had ignored the warnings.

What else? The Associated Press in a report from the Geneva
headquarters of the Red Cross on May 10 said that NATO intelligence
officers had confirmed that between 70-90 percent of Iraqi prisoners
had been wrongfully arrested. A report by the US news agency confirmed
through high-level officials in the Red Cross, that the organization
had warned the American forces a number of times, both orally and in
writing, of torture and its consequences. Officials at the Red Cross
confirmed that the torture was not an isolated act or two by a few as
Bush and Rumsfeld have said but the methodical carrying out of a
system put in place by military intelligence and known to all.

Everyone knows and most regrettably, everyone is lying to their
people, legislative authorities and to the world at large. Their talk
of American principles and high morals and the horror they feel upon
hearing the news of the tortures - for the first time! - are pure lies
and hypocrisy. We do not deny the principles and high morals on which
the United States was built nor the mass of the American people's
commitment to those principles. Bush and Rumsfeld's talk of morals and
principles, however, are cheap lies.

They have lied over and over in their war on terrorism, their invasion
of Afghanistan and in the occupation of Iraq - all on the pretext of
weapons of mass destruction. They lied in many of their their
accusations about Islamic charitable organizations around the world.
These liars are the same ones who publish projects and announce that
they will rebuild homes, clean up societies, purify school curricula
and teach us all about liberty and human rights. The very liberty and
human rights they are abusing! Perhaps they will also give us lessons
in lying, trickery and deception in which they have become adept. We
do not blame them for so much trickery and deception - we blame our
own who have been promoting these Zionist-American projects even more
than the Americans themselves and have become more strict and harsh
toward their own people, skeptical of our history and violating its
principles more than ours worst enemies.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D57732768

.
User: "R. Foreman"

Title: Re: They Know and Still They Lie 31 May 2004 12:15:53 AM
"The Athiest" <athiest.nospam@nodomain.com> Spat the Words

Quite a funny "Subject" as this post cites an article by the Arab
News. Can you say Pot = Kettle?

Actually, as long as the facts are correct (I didn't try to
verify each fact stated in the article), the tone of the
article is more or less right on target. It's much more
subdued and thoughtful than most Arabic rhetoric directed
against the west.


Arab News = Subject of this post

"Grantland" <mithril@iafrica.com> wrote in message
news:40b95f76.1135971420@ct-news.iafrica.com...

From:

(Abu-Alwafa)

They Know and Still They Lie

M. Salahuddin

Arab News

Observers may wonder how an American president such as George Bush,
who has had to face one crisis after another as he seeks re-election,
could hold on to an unsuccessful, reckless and extremist secretary of
defense such as Donald Rumsfeld. And even more amazing that Bush
would go to the Pentagon to visit the secretary, declare his support
for him and praise his work?

Is it loyalty or machismo? Or is it political calculation? Simply
put, if Rumsfeld goes down, so will Bush.

It is naïve to speak of loyalty and machismo in the modern political
world because they are indeed rare these days. The reason for Bush's
visit is made clear by a report on NBC Nightly News on May 10. On the
program, the American reporter, Andrea Mitchell, confirmed that the
administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer, and US Secretary of State Colin
Powell had repeatedly warned both the president and the Pentagon
about the consequences of criminal torture in American prisons in
Iraq and that both Bush and Rumsfeld had ignored the warnings.

What else? The Associated Press in a report from the Geneva
headquarters of the Red Cross on May 10 said that NATO intelligence
officers had confirmed that between 70-90 percent of Iraqi prisoners
had been wrongfully arrested. A report by the US news agency
confirmed through high-level officials in the Red Cross, that the
organization had warned the American forces a number of times, both
orally and in writing, of torture and its consequences. Officials at
the Red Cross confirmed that the torture was not an isolated act or
two by a few as Bush and Rumsfeld have said but the methodical
carrying out of a system put in place by military intelligence and
known to all.

Everyone knows and most regrettably, everyone is lying to their
people, legislative authorities and to the world at large. Their talk
of American principles and high morals and the horror they feel upon
hearing the news of the tortures - for the first time! - are pure
lies and hypocrisy. We do not deny the principles and high morals on
which the United States was built nor the mass of the American
people's commitment to those principles. Bush and Rumsfeld's talk of
morals and principles, however, are cheap lies.

They have lied over and over in their war on terrorism, their
invasion of Afghanistan and in the occupation of Iraq - all on the
pretext of weapons of mass destruction. They lied in many of their
their accusations about Islamic charitable organizations around the
world. These liars are the same ones who publish projects and
announce that they will rebuild homes, clean up societies, purify
school curricula and teach us all about liberty and human rights. The
very liberty and human rights they are abusing! Perhaps they will
also give us lessons in lying, trickery and deception in which they
have become adept. We do not blame them for so much trickery and
deception - we blame our own who have been promoting these
Zionist-American projects even more than the Americans themselves and
have become more strict and harsh toward their own people, skeptical
of our history and violating its principles more than ours worst
enemies.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D57732768




.



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