Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism chiefs as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than 150 law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials and the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and promotes mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states, including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report released last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" – a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its 2002 report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim clerics and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at an FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI Academy at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new special agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell. "I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine, has seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on charges he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous December, Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for financial ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to
do it through education."
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02 Dec 2004 06:09:54 PM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than 150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states, including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its 2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on from
there.
Jane
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03 Dec 2004 03:50:46 AM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f9Ord.23030$Ad3.1709068@news20.bellglobal.com...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041202050012.11425.00001382@mb-m29.aol.com...
Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam and
the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than 150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its 2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred book
of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine,
has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and
the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on from
there.
Please indicate that yor wild-arsed, paranoid, bigoted conjecture is just
that, rather than trying to present it as fact.
Thankyou.
.
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03 Dec 2004 06:29:19 PM |
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"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam and
the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred
book
of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine,
has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and
the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become
a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper
told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with
places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on from
there.
Please indicate that yor wild-arsed, paranoid, bigoted conjecture is just
that, rather than trying to present it as fact.
Thankyou.
Wait and see.
Jane
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02 Dec 2004 07:08:51 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f9Ord.23030$Ad3.1709068@news20.bellglobal.com...
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041202050012.11425.00001382@mb-m29.aol.com...
Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than 150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states, including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its 2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003 while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad, was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on from
there.
I say let's all have a toast to an Islamic Canada ;-)
Cheers,
Stat.
Jane
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03 Dec 2004 02:01:03 AM |
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"MonsieurStat" <Monsieurstat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041202050012.11425.00001382@mb-m29.aol.com...
Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam
and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which
to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on
the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured
veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred
book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For
Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer
Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous
December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas
and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States
become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper
told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with
places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on
from
there.
I say let's all have a toast to an Islamic Canada ;-)
Cheers,
Stat.
My "terrorist-loving" (LOL) buddies and I are all looking forward to an
Islamic Scandinavia, an Islamic China, an Islamic N.Korea, an Islamic
Japan, an Islamic UK, an Islamic Australia (N. Zealand, too!) and, most of
all, an Islamic Mexico and Canada. They'll be right next door and, man, oh
man, will we all party like it was 2999! Oh, Jesus, what a utopia it will
be!
ROFLMFAO !! ;D
Jane
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam
and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which
to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on
the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured
veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred
book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For
Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer
Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous
December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas
and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States
become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper
told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with
places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on
from
there.
I say let's all have a toast to an Islamic Canada ;-)
Cheers,
Stat.
My "terrorist-loving" (LOL) buddies and I are all looking forward to an
Islamic Scandinavia, an Islamic China, an Islamic N.Korea, an Islamic
Japan, an Islamic UK, an Islamic Australia (N. Zealand, too!) and, most of
all, an Islamic Mexico and Canada. They'll be right next door and, man, oh
man, will we all party like it was 2999! Oh, Jesus, what a utopia it will
be!
ROFLMFAO !! ;D
Laugh it up. Most people will deride until one day they wake up wearing
hajib (at least the women). Muslims believe we are all born islamic (you
don't "convert" to Islam, you "revert"). therefore, a world-wide caliphate
is a natural state of affairs. They are stuck where Christianity was, say,
1000 years ago.
Jane
Jane
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> Spat the Words
most of
all, an Islamic Mexico and Canada. They'll be right next door and, man, oh
man, will we all party like it was 2999! Oh, Jesus, what a utopia it will
be!
ROFLMFAO !! ;D
Laugh it up. Most people will deride until one day they wake up wearing
hajib (at least the women). Muslims believe we are all born islamic (you
don't "convert" to Islam, you "revert"). therefore, a world-wide caliphate
is a natural state of affairs. They are stuck where Christianity was, say,
1000 years ago.
I'd say we're all just a step closer to being reverted to islam
since Bush has made it a policy to attack innocent muslims in
their own country. Next step, prolonged religious war. I feel so
safe with Bush in office.
Jane
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03 Dec 2004 05:01:20 AM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby
group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI
counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group
Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on
"Islam
and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more
than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic
beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in
which
to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement
officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train
law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it
sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush
administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals
and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11,
its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64
percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily,
on
the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash"
incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and
new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting
Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of
Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations
at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the
FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured
veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the
sacred
book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and
former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For
Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism
charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison
on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and
sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone
but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks
on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer
Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer
for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous
December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of
Hamas
and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar
Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be
equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with
the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States
become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like
the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future,"
Hooper
told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that.
I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with
places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on
from
there.
I say let's all have a toast to an Islamic Canada ;-)
Cheers,
Stat.
My "terrorist-loving" (LOL) buddies and I are all looking forward to
an
Islamic Scandinavia, an Islamic China, an Islamic N.Korea, an Islamic
Japan, an Islamic UK, an Islamic Australia (N. Zealand, too!) and,
most of
all, an Islamic Mexico and Canada. They'll be right next door and,
man, oh
man, will we all party like it was 2999! Oh, Jesus, what a utopia it
will
be!
ROFLMFAO !! ;D
Laugh it up. Most people will deride until one day they wake up wearing
hajib (at least the women). Muslims believe we are all born islamic
(you
don't "convert" to Islam, you "revert"). therefore, a world-wide
caliphate
is a natural state of affairs. They are stuck where Christianity was,
say,
1000 years ago.
Jane
The evil that is overtaking the world, Jane, isn't the Muslims. It's
corporate power and greed invading the democratic governments,
compromising their constitutions of personal freedoms, and making
enormously profitable contracts with the military establishment.
In order to keep popular support for those contracts, they must generate a
perpetual state of warfare. In order to do that, they must win your hearts
and minds with hate and fear of some other group of humans on the planet.
They must overstate and manipulate that fear, that threat, to the point
the masses will mostly "buy" it, committing their young people to early
graves or life-long disabilities in wars they create, as well as wasting
huge sums of public money.
Your bigotry against Muslims, your suspicions, your fears of them are
playing directly into their plans. And so are the 51% who reelected Bush.
Ultimately, you and many like you are the military-industrial
establishment's victims, serving blindly, believing in what personally
satisfies your hatred and fear of a group of people who are culturally,
racially, religiously different.
There are l.2 billion Muslims on this planet, Jane. Will we have to kill
or oppress all, or perhaps just part? But, how many dead Muslims will
make you feel safe and secure? How many dead 18-20 year old men and women
from the USA/West will have to be unnecessarily sacrificed to corporate
global hegemony?
Pick a figure. Is it only a few thousand militants commanded by Osama, or
do you want to "cross over" and condemn all Muslims for the violent acts
of the relative few?
When Bush's WOT policy took a wrong turn at Afghanistan and Iraq, and
proceeded to turn the pursuit and punishment of a band of murdering
fanatics, who call themselves Muslims (and who Bush once called a "fringe
element," and not representative of the vast majority of the Islamic
faith, ref., 9-20-01 speech before Congress) into a series of nation-state
wars, killing many innocent civilians, he reaffirmed that the
corporate-military influence has control over our political leadership and
had destroyed any semblance of rationality or morality in its policies.
This is pure deception, greed and power-madness at work, if not abject
murderous insanity, now increasingly colluding with fanatical elements of
Christianity in making these dead-end policies.
You're being misled both by leaders and by your own myopic fears and
hatred -- which, as I said, they are exploiting, as they are with so many
folks now.
A horrendous catastrophe is in the making. And we'll all be its toll. (I'm
not laughing it up now.)
Doc
Jane
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"Doc" <goblowmoreshit@baboons.com> wrote in article:
<coph2101nd7@enews1.newsguy.com>...
The evil that is overtaking the world, Jane, isn't the Muslims. It's
corporate power and greed invading the democratic governments,
compromising their constitutions of personal freedoms, and making
enormously profitable contracts with the military establishment.
In order to keep popular support for those contracts, they must generate a
perpetual state of warfare.
A perpetual state of warfare has existed in this world for 5000 years
of recorded history. However -- if you actually believe the Islamic
terror threat is generated by corporations, do you also believe the
early Muslim wars of expansion (during the 7th through 11th centuries)
were corporately generated as well? Just curious.
http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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"Doc" <goblowmoreshit@baboons.com> wrote in article:
<coph2101nd7@enews1.newsguy.com>...
The evil that is overtaking the world, Jane, isn't the Muslims. It's
corporate power and greed invading the democratic governments,
compromising their constitutions of personal freedoms, and making
enormously profitable contracts with the military establishment.
In order to keep popular support for those contracts, they must
generate a
perpetual state of warfare.
A perpetual state of warfare has existed in this world for 5000 years
of recorded history. However -- if you actually believe the Islamic
terror threat is generated by corporations, do you also believe the
early Muslim wars of expansion (during the 7th through 11th centuries)
were corporately generated as well? Just curious.
http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html
Corporations are merely carrying on that fine tradition. Of course,
earlier power-mad greedy psychotics and sociopaths didn't have the modern
structures of corporations.
Anything else?
Doc ;D
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04 Dec 2004 05:43:40 AM |
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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2b35e99.0412032111.6d03b108@posting.google.com...
"Doc" <goblowmoreshit@baboons.com> wrote in article:
<coph2101nd7@enews1.newsguy.com>...
The evil that is overtaking the world, Jane, isn't the Muslims. It's
corporate power and greed invading the democratic governments,
compromising their constitutions of personal freedoms, and making
enormously profitable contracts with the military establishment.
In order to keep popular support for those contracts, they must
generate a
perpetual state of warfare.
A perpetual state of warfare has existed in this world for 5000 years
of recorded history. However -- if you actually believe the Islamic
terror threat is generated by corporations, do you also believe the
early Muslim wars of expansion (during the 7th through 11th centuries)
were corporately generated as well? Just curious.
http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html
I didn't say the "terrorist threat" was being generated by corporations'
global hegemony, but that WAR is. In the process of generating warfare,
exploitation of the publics' fear and hatred of a specific group is used
in propaganda efforts. The exploitation of the terrorist threat is being
used as a pre-text for global corporate expansion via military or coercive
economic means.
Obviously there is a terrorist threat. And since you said there have been
millenia of perpetual warfare, you must also already know that terrorism,
variously labeled as rebellion, revolution, militancy, insurgency, etc.,
has existed right along with the warfare. It is really how rich elitists
want to package and sell that threat to the masses.
Do they promote pursuit of terrorism as endless nation-state battles
(thereby conquering lands with rich resources and cheap labor to be had),
or promote the pursuit of it as a law-enforcement, incisive commando-type
operation? The latter would leave governments and their infrastructures
intact, saving many civilian lives, and garnering far more cooperative
international support in the war against terrorism. Bush has turned this
WOT into nation-state warfare, creating a large civilian death/injury
toll, which, in turn, feeds into counter-propaganda efforts and helps
recruit or build support for more militancy. It is essentially the wrong
policy. Israel, for decades, often cooperated with foreign governments (or
acted covertly) to pursue terrorists, bringing them back to court and
punishing them. (The use of the judicial system in a healthy democracy is
necessary to preserve that democracy's ideals of fairness and adherence to
the rule of law.) There was no reason that Bush couldn't have followed
that successful example. One would have to fairly ask why Osama hasn't
been located by now, despite seemingly herculean efforts to find him. Is
it because it serves the corporate-political-military elitists agenda
better to keep him alive and "hiding out?" One would have to also ask what
will happen after Osama is captured or killed? I would guess another
"madman" will take the helm of the terror ship, ad infinitum.
Somewhere along the line, for the survival of all human civilizations,
Americans and their allies will have to face the hard fact that, as long
as greedy power-hungry corporations (read: rich elitists) influence
nation-state political and military policies, that the resistance to the
friction it causes with people less advantaged, that terrorism will always
exist as a result. The answer is addressing the imbalances that this greed
and power madness create, and realize that the violence is an expression
of frustration and anger over those imbalances.
But, when you get crazy fanatics thinking they're on a mission from God to
smite the human evils of the world, as prophetically interpreted, the
whole mess becomes more blurred to the masses. I mean, is this a holy war
against demonic evil? Is it one religion's god pitted against the other?
Or is it just a continuation of the devious selling of animosity towards a
group of people to buy as many hearts and minds as possible in order to
support a hidden agenda of global hegemony?
It doesn't matter what vehicle rich elitists use to sell their lies. It
can be in the framework of a corporation, as it often is today, or in the
past as kingdoms.
The rich elitist sociopaths and psychopaths (probably some schizos, too)
continue playing the masses for suckers whether they're in polyester
monkey suits or adorned with satin robes and laden with gold accessories.
It's the same old game.
Doc ;D
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam
and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which
to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11, its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64 percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on
the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash" incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured
veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred
book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For
Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer
Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous
December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas
and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States
become a
Muslim
country.
"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the
government
of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," Hooper
told
the
paper. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm
going to
do it through education."
The muslim agenda is a world-wide caliphate. they will begin with
places
that were once muslim in the past, such as Spain and will carry on
from
there.
I say let's all have a toast to an Islamic Canada ;-)
Cheers,
Stat.
My "terrorist-loving" (LOL) buddies and I are all looking forward to an
Islamic Scandinavia, an Islamic China, an Islamic N.Korea, an Islamic
Japan, an Islamic UK, an Islamic Australia (N. Zealand, too!) and, most of
all, an Islamic Mexico and Canada. They'll be right next door and, man, oh
man, will we all party like it was 2999! Oh, Jesus, what a utopia it will
be!
ROFLMFAO !! ;D
Laugh it up. Most people will deride until one day they wake up wearing
hajib (at least the women).
I hope you're not one of those women who has a knee jerk reaction to the word
Hijab.
It's just a dress code. All cultures have a dress code (save a few African
and Amzonian tribes).
Say in Boston, try going out with your breasts exposed. You'll be arrested in
a heart beat.
Hijab is a bit the same. And the people who complain about it most , are
Westerners!
Muslims believe we are all born islamic (you
don't "convert" to Islam, you "revert"). therefore, a world-wide caliphate
is a natural state of affairs.
No, reversion is a Jewish concept. A lot of Orthodox Jews still believe that
Jesus and gang were just charlatons who fooled a lot of people to leave the
Good religeon. So they promote reversion, or going back.
Muslims believe that Islam already contains Christianity and Jeudism (they
believe both Jesus and Moses were prophets sent by the same God as Mohammad
was). So converting to Islam doesn't make you an un-Christian or an un-Jew.
They are stuck where Christianity was, say,
1000 years ago.
1000 years ago Christianlity was in complete darkness (Dark Ages rings a
bell?). There was nothing happening. Islam's dark ages was between 15 to 19th
century. 20th century was a great period for Islam and the trend is
continuing. Islam is regaining it's full vitality now. More and more people
world wide are finding in Islam many solutions to world problems. This
includes many born, but non-practicing muslims. What's really important is
not the number of muslims or converts per say, but how the core Islamic
philosophy is being spread. My accountant informs me if Canada was to become
an Islamic nation tomorrow, we wouldn't need to change a single thing in the
tax laws :-)
Stat.
Jane
Jane
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Read the last paragraph, that's all you
need to know.
Tony
CAIR trains FBI in 'sensitivity'
Group with radical ties teaches
counter-terror agents
Posted: December 2, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
FBI counter-terrorism agents in Florida attended a "sensitivity
training"
workshop yesterday conducted by a controversial Islamic lobby
group.
Although it has been described by two former FBI counter-terrorism
chiefs
as a
spin-off of a U.S. front for the Palestinian terrorist group
Hamas,
the
Council
on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, led the workshop on "Islam
and the
American Muslim community" at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All
Employee
Conference.
CAIR's Florida branch, CAIR-FL, said in a statement that "more
than
150
law
enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force
supervisory
personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic
beliefs
and
concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in
which
to
improve
interactions with the Muslim community."
"This type of positive interaction between law enforcement
officials
and
the
Muslim community helps break down barriers to communication and
promotes
mutual
understanding," said CAIR-FL Chairman Parvez Ahmed.
Ahmed said his group wants to expand the program to help train law
enforcement
authorities in other parts of the state.
Officers already have been trained in Miami and in other states,
including
Kentucky, where 13 FBI agents received training in Lexington in
October.
The training is part of a campaign by CAIR to counteract what it
sees
as
widespread anti-Muslim prejudice in the United States. A report
released
last
year, titled "Guilt by Association," blasted the Bush
administration
for
government policies that unfairly single out Muslim individuals
and
organizations" - a charge denied by the Justice Department.
CAIR claimed that when compared to the year preceding Sept. 11,
its
2002
report
on bias or hate-related incidents against Muslims showed a 64
percent
increase.
Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez told WorldNetDaily, on
the
contrary, he saw a vastly improving situation in "backlash"
incidents
since a
"spike" in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
'Enrichment training'
As WorldNetDaily reported last year, the FBI put its agents and
new
recruits
through a Muslim sensitivity program that included inviting Muslim
clerics
and
leaders to preach about the allegedly peaceful attributes of
Islam.
National Arab-American and Muslim leaders have made presentations
at
an
FBI
training course on civil rights in Washington D.C., and at the FBI
Academy
at
Quantico, Va., as part of "Enrichment Training Sessions" for new
special
agents
there.
In addition, the imam of a large Manhattan mosque has lectured
veteran
counterterrorism investigators at the FBI's New York field office
about
misinterpretation of the meaning of jihad in the Koran, the sacred
book of
Muslims.
The sensitivity training program, denounced by some active and
former
agents,
was mandated last year by FBI Director Robert Mueller.
FBI headquarters defends the program as a way to reach out to the
Muslim
community in America.
"I hate the word 'sensitivity' training," said FBI spokesman Ed
Cogswell.
"I
would call it an awareness training relative to cultural issues."
Organizer of holy warriors
Since 9-11, CAIR, a spin-off of the Islamic Association For
Palestine, has
seen
three of its former employees indicted on federal terrorism
charges.
Randall Todd "Ismail" Royer was sentenced to 20 years in prison on
charges
he
trained in Virginia for holy war against the United States and
sent
several
members to Pakistan to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Kashmiri terrorist
group
with
reported ties to al-Qaida.
In a plea bargain, Royer claimed he never intended to hurt anyone
but
admitted
he organized the holy warriors after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks
on
the
U.S.
After his arrest, Royer sought legal counsel from Hamas lawyer
Stanley
Cohen,
who said after 9-11 he would consider serving as a defense lawyer
for
Osama bin
Laden if the al-Qaida leader were captured.
Another CAIR figure, Bassem Khafagi, was arrested in January 2003
while
serving
as the group's director of community relations. The previous
December,
Ghassan
Elashi, the founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, was indicted for
financial
ties to
Hamas leader Musa Abu Marzook.
Current CAIR leaders also have made statements in support of Hamas
and the
domination of the U.S. by Islam.
As WorldNetDaily reported, CAIR's chairman of the board, Omar
Ahmad,
was
cited
by a California newspaper in 1998 declaring the Quran should be
America's
highest authority.
He also was reported to have said Islam is not in America to be
equal
to
any
other religion but to be dominant.
CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with
the
Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States
become a
Muslim
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