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User: "Uncle Wallys World"
Date: 03 Dec 2004 03:18:09 AM
Object: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!?
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MAJOR SEER SAYS SMALLER CHASTISEMENTS HAVE BEEN LESSENED BUT NOT THE BIG ONES
www.spiritdaily.com
A major seer from Ecuador asserts that events coming as chastisements loom
in the future and that while some smaller events have been lessened, the
"big ones" will still occur due to what she sees as the world's
deteriorating moral situation.
The stark assessment comes from Patricia Talbott Borrero of Cuenca --
whose alleged apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary began in 1988 high up
in the Andes, drawing world attention. While her local bishop has not
approved the visions, neither has a local prelate denounced them, despite
preliminary investigations and despite the negative judgment of one
committee.
According to Talbott (who goes by the name "Pachi, and who has been
scrupulously obedient to Church authorities), her former bishop had asked
her to take a "vow of silence" related to the apparitions but a new one
has altered that to a "vow of prudence" -- allowing her to speak
cautiously about events that may have dramatic significance. The diocese
also has okayed a sanctuary at the site, which is 12,000 feet up the
cloud-enshrouded mountains in a ravine known as El Cajas. There, Mary
reportedly came as "Guardian of the Faith."
As per usual, we submit these stories in the spirit of openness to
prophecy for your discernment. The comments by Pachi are noteworthy in
that she ranks as one of the world's top visionaries -- a young woman of
32 who appears to be following in the footsteps of Maria Esperanza,
another South American seer who died last August days before Florida was
first lashed by hurricanes.
Those storms, believes Pachi -- who has been visiting the Miami area --
are part of what she feels is a coming scenario of purification. Since the
early 1990s, Pachi has warned that the descent into sexual immorality,
godlessness, and materialism could lead to a nuclear event, a war in
Eurasia, and "natural disasters created by man."
The prophecies are contained in what has been characterized as a
multi-faceted "secret," parts of which, hinted at in remarks since 1988,
appear controversial. It was from 1988 to 1990 that the young woman
claimed to experience more than a hundred apparitions. In an interview
with Spirit Daily, the seer, who once aspired to a career in modeling (but
now works alongside her husband in a humble furniture business), said that
she is still receiving locutions.
"I have locutions and I see Jesus sometimes," said Pachi, who works with
the poor in third-world Ecuador. Asked if she still perceived major events
as on the way -- events that so often had been described as coming soon,
but are not yet here -- the seer replied, "They're coming. Some are
lessened. But they are the little ones. I have to be careful because I am
in a vow of prudence. What I can say is that things are coming and some
things are relieved. But they are the little ones. The world has not
changed enough."
Borrero said she still has struggles with the evil one, who "tries to put
me down," but that there is always victory in the Rosary and other means
of holiness. She perceives the evil in the world as worse than when the
apparitions first occurred. "But the plan of the evil one is going to be
over soon," she says. ""That's the reason he's desperate."
Asked if she was surprised that things have gone on so long without the
prophesied chastisements occurring, Pachi replied: "I know the time that
Our Lady announced to me, but I also see the Mercy of God in many ways.
When you see it coming, you're going to realize how soon it is.
"God is going to show you His Will. Pray for His Will always. That's the
most important thing."
Alluding to recent events, she said that "God is reaching out to Florida,
He wanted to put His eye over this place" -- an ironic expression given
the storms of last summer.
But the Ecuadoran emphasized that focusing on coming events is less
important than focusing on our own spirituality. "We can die before any of
the events," said the seer. "The most important thing is whether we are
living in the Voice of God. The big word is 'conversion.'"
Pachi said she saw a vision of Christ's Passion in 1998 during a visit to
the Holy Land. As for the Middle East and the Iraq conflict, she said that
"war is never the Will of God."
Years ago she saw destruction coming to New York because it was growing
cold to God and is instead idolizing mankind and its structures. Other
predictions have been less clear, including one that had to do with
destruction of the Vatican and another ascribed to her that foresaw the
assassination of Mikhail Gorbachev, events that of course have not
occurred.
However, those specific prophecies were related by others. The seer
herself has been more circumspect. "Live with hope and trust and when the
moment of purification arrives, abandon yourselves entirely to me and I
will give you your mission," she quotes the Blessed Mother as saying.
In an interview with Spirit Daily two years ago, Archbishop Vicente
Rodrigo Cisneros Duran of Cuenca said he is taking a wait-and-see attitude
toward apparitions and has not yet made a discernment on the apparitions
or messages. "I am still watching and waiting," he said. As for his
personal opinion of the authenticity, the archbishop commented, "Well, top
secret. I don't know that. I respect her as a person. I see her as a good
person, very pious. So, we appreciate the personality of Pachi. I think
she is very sincere. But I didn't [question] her yet because it's
difficult. There is no determination yet but maybe in the future."
A friend of Pachi's, Bernardita Jerves, was also granted a vision of what
they call the "sacred chastisement" and was allegedly told by Mary that
"one month before this circumstance happens you can notify all of my
children."
Mary allegedly made clear that conversion would "soften" the Heart of
Jesus, "and the intensity [of purification] can be diminished or be lost
forever; if not, the great trial will come."
[resources: The Final Hour]


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User: "Kim M"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 03 Dec 2004 04:22:28 AM
The 'Past Life' has haunted me with 'visions' since before I can
remember, but I personally do not believe in 'pimping it out'. After
all, I have come to learn that the 'Past Life" will show 'visions'
that do not always happen. (After all, you have to remember, that the
'Past Life' are just as obnoxious and self promoting as they where
during there 'living' years.)
It took me 35 yrs to adjust to this 'visioning', and another 9 yrs to
learn to dis-trust these 'visions'.
Don't always trust people who claim they are in touch with the 'past
life' when they are predicting future events. I (personally) have
experienced a 60% accuracy in pre-predictions and a 5 to 6 year
window on future trends. (But, that still leaves a 40% of
in-accuracy.)
--
Just A Thought !!!
Wait, I'm receiving another transmission from the great beyond.
Wouldn't you know it,
it was a 'Wrong Number' :-(
"Uncle Wally's World" <unclewallysworld@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:a7ef5981.0412030118.73866931@posting.google.com...

http://www.spiritdaily.com/pachilatest1.htm

MAJOR SEER SAYS SMALLER CHASTISEMENTS HAVE BEEN LESSENED BUT NOT

THE BIG ONES


www.spiritdaily.com

A major seer from Ecuador asserts that events coming as

chastisements loom

in the future and that while some smaller events have been

lessened, the

"big ones" will still occur due to what she sees as the world's
deteriorating moral situation.

The stark assessment comes from Patricia Talbott Borrero of

Cuenca --

whose alleged apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary began in 1988

high up

in the Andes, drawing world attention. While her local bishop has

not

approved the visions, neither has a local prelate denounced them,

despite

preliminary investigations and despite the negative judgment of one
committee.

According to Talbott (who goes by the name "Pachi, and who has been
scrupulously obedient to Church authorities), her former bishop had

asked

her to take a "vow of silence" related to the apparitions but a new

one

has altered that to a "vow of prudence" -- allowing her to speak
cautiously about events that may have dramatic significance. The

diocese

also has okayed a sanctuary at the site, which is 12,000 feet up

the

cloud-enshrouded mountains in a ravine known as El Cajas. There,

Mary

reportedly came as "Guardian of the Faith."

As per usual, we submit these stories in the spirit of openness to
prophecy for your discernment. The comments by Pachi are noteworthy

in

that she ranks as one of the world's top visionaries -- a young

woman of

32 who appears to be following in the footsteps of Maria Esperanza,
another South American seer who died last August days before

Florida was

first lashed by hurricanes.

Those storms, believes Pachi -- who has been visiting the Miami

area --

are part of what she feels is a coming scenario of purification.

Since the

early 1990s, Pachi has warned that the descent into sexual

immorality,

godlessness, and materialism could lead to a nuclear event, a war

in

Eurasia, and "natural disasters created by man."

The prophecies are contained in what has been characterized as a
multi-faceted "secret," parts of which, hinted at in remarks since

1988,

appear controversial. It was from 1988 to 1990 that the young woman
claimed to experience more than a hundred apparitions. In an

interview

with Spirit Daily, the seer, who once aspired to a career in

modeling (but

now works alongside her husband in a humble furniture business),

said that

she is still receiving locutions.

"I have locutions and I see Jesus sometimes," said Pachi, who works

with

the poor in third-world Ecuador. Asked if she still perceived major

events

as on the way -- events that so often had been described as coming

soon,

but are not yet here -- the seer replied, "They're coming. Some are
lessened. But they are the little ones. I have to be careful

because I am

in a vow of prudence. What I can say is that things are coming and

some

things are relieved. But they are the little ones. The world has

not

changed enough."

Borrero said she still has struggles with the evil one, who "tries

to put

me down," but that there is always victory in the Rosary and other

means

of holiness. She perceives the evil in the world as worse than when

the

apparitions first occurred. "But the plan of the evil one is going

to be

over soon," she says. ""That's the reason he's desperate."

Asked if she was surprised that things have gone on so long without

the

prophesied chastisements occurring, Pachi replied: "I know the time

that

Our Lady announced to me, but I also see the Mercy of God in many

ways.

When you see it coming, you're going to realize how soon it is.

"God is going to show you His Will. Pray for His Will always.

That's the

most important thing."

Alluding to recent events, she said that "God is reaching out to

Florida,

He wanted to put His eye over this place" -- an ironic expression

given

the storms of last summer.

But the Ecuadoran emphasized that focusing on coming events is less
important than focusing on our own spirituality. "We can die before

any of

the events," said the seer. "The most important thing is whether we

are

living in the Voice of God. The big word is 'conversion.'"

Pachi said she saw a vision of Christ's Passion in 1998 during a

visit to

the Holy Land. As for the Middle East and the Iraq conflict, she

said that

"war is never the Will of God."


Years ago she saw destruction coming to New York because it was

growing

cold to God and is instead idolizing mankind and its structures.

Other

predictions have been less clear, including one that had to do with
destruction of the Vatican and another ascribed to her that foresaw

the

assassination of Mikhail Gorbachev, events that of course have not
occurred.

However, those specific prophecies were related by others. The seer
herself has been more circumspect. "Live with hope and trust and

when the

moment of purification arrives, abandon yourselves entirely to me

and I

will give you your mission," she quotes the Blessed Mother as

saying.


In an interview with Spirit Daily two years ago, Archbishop Vicente
Rodrigo Cisneros Duran of Cuenca said he is taking a wait-and-see

attitude

toward apparitions and has not yet made a discernment on the

apparitions

or messages. "I am still watching and waiting," he said. As for his
personal opinion of the authenticity, the archbishop commented,

"Well, top

secret. I don't know that. I respect her as a person. I see her as

a good

person, very pious. So, we appreciate the personality of Pachi. I

think

she is very sincere. But I didn't [question] her yet because it's
difficult. There is no determination yet but maybe in the future."

A friend of Pachi's, Bernardita Jerves, was also granted a vision

of what

they call the "sacred chastisement" and was allegedly told by Mary

that

"one month before this circumstance happens you can notify all of

my

children."

Mary allegedly made clear that conversion would "soften" the Heart

of

Jesus, "and the intensity [of purification] can be diminished or be

lost

forever; if not, the great trial will come."

[resources: The Final Hour]



=====================================================================
=========
.
User: "Uncle Wallys World"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 03 Dec 2004 08:58:57 PM
For six months (from April to September, 2001 I had many visions of
which I shared with other peoples on a now defunct discussion
group....
Something much bigger is on the way - I can feel the negative karma
that is
building up to a final crescendo - & at some time within the next few
months
-- this tension will give way & manifest itself in a tumultuous event
or series of events.......
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
"Kim M" <MILLER#K,2@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<84Xrd.24760$Ad3.1858931@news20.bellglobal.com>...

The 'Past Life' has haunted me with 'visions' since before I can
remember, but I personally do not believe in 'pimping it out'. After
all, I have come to learn that the 'Past Life" will show 'visions'
that do not always happen. (After all, you have to remember, that the
'Past Life' are just as obnoxious and self promoting as they where
during there 'living' years.)

It took me 35 yrs to adjust to this 'visioning', and another 9 yrs to
learn to dis-trust these 'visions'.

Don't always trust people who claim they are in touch with the 'past
life' when they are predicting future events. I (personally) have
experienced a 60% accuracy in pre-predictions and a 5 to 6 year
window on future trends. (But, that still leaves a 40% of
in-accuracy.)

--
Just A Thought !!!

Wait, I'm receiving another transmission from the great beyond.

Wouldn't you know it,
it was a 'Wrong Number' :-(


"Uncle Wally's World" <unclewallysworld@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:a7ef5981.0412030118.73866931@posting.google.com...

http://www.spiritdaily.com/pachilatest1.htm

MAJOR SEER SAYS SMALLER CHASTISEMENTS HAVE BEEN LESSENED BUT NOT

THE BIG ONES


www.spiritdaily.com

A major seer from Ecuador asserts that events coming as

chastisements loom

in the future and that while some smaller events have been

lessened, the

"big ones" will still occur due to what she sees as the world's
deteriorating moral situation.

The stark assessment comes from Patricia Talbott Borrero of

Cuenca --

whose alleged apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary began in 1988

high up

in the Andes, drawing world attention. While her local bishop has

not

approved the visions, neither has a local prelate denounced them,

despite

preliminary investigations and despite the negative judgment of one
committee.

According to Talbott (who goes by the name "Pachi, and who has been
scrupulously obedient to Church authorities), her former bishop had

asked

her to take a "vow of silence" related to the apparitions but a new

one

has altered that to a "vow of prudence" -- allowing her to speak
cautiously about events that may have dramatic significance. The

diocese

also has okayed a sanctuary at the site, which is 12,000 feet up

the

cloud-enshrouded mountains in a ravine known as El Cajas. There,

Mary

reportedly came as "Guardian of the Faith."

As per usual, we submit these stories in the spirit of openness to
prophecy for your discernment. The comments by Pachi are noteworthy

in

that she ranks as one of the world's top visionaries -- a young

woman of

32 who appears to be following in the footsteps of Maria Esperanza,
another South American seer who died last August days before

Florida was

first lashed by hurricanes.

Those storms, believes Pachi -- who has been visiting the Miami

area --

are part of what she feels is a coming scenario of purification.

Since the

early 1990s, Pachi has warned that the descent into sexual

immorality,

godlessness, and materialism could lead to a nuclear event, a war

in

Eurasia, and "natural disasters created by man."

The prophecies are contained in what has been characterized as a
multi-faceted "secret," parts of which, hinted at in remarks since

1988,

appear controversial. It was from 1988 to 1990 that the young woman
claimed to experience more than a hundred apparitions. In an

interview

with Spirit Daily, the seer, who once aspired to a career in

modeling (but

now works alongside her husband in a humble furniture business),

said that

she is still receiving locutions.

"I have locutions and I see Jesus sometimes," said Pachi, who works

with

the poor in third-world Ecuador. Asked if she still perceived major

events

as on the way -- events that so often had been described as coming

soon,

but are not yet here -- the seer replied, "They're coming. Some are
lessened. But they are the little ones. I have to be careful

because I am

in a vow of prudence. What I can say is that things are coming and

some

things are relieved. But they are the little ones. The world has

not

changed enough."

Borrero said she still has struggles with the evil one, who "tries

to put

me down," but that there is always victory in the Rosary and other

means

of holiness. She perceives the evil in the world as worse than when

the

apparitions first occurred. "But the plan of the evil one is going

to be

over soon," she says. ""That's the reason he's desperate."

Asked if she was surprised that things have gone on so long without

the

prophesied chastisements occurring, Pachi replied: "I know the time

that

Our Lady announced to me, but I also see the Mercy of God in many

ways.

When you see it coming, you're going to realize how soon it is.

"God is going to show you His Will. Pray for His Will always.

That's the

most important thing."

Alluding to recent events, she said that "God is reaching out to

Florida,

He wanted to put His eye over this place" -- an ironic expression

given

the storms of last summer.

But the Ecuadoran emphasized that focusing on coming events is less
important than focusing on our own spirituality. "We can die before

any of

the events," said the seer. "The most important thing is whether we

are

living in the Voice of God. The big word is 'conversion.'"

Pachi said she saw a vision of Christ's Passion in 1998 during a

visit to

the Holy Land. As for the Middle East and the Iraq conflict, she

said that

"war is never the Will of God."


Years ago she saw destruction coming to New York because it was

growing

cold to God and is instead idolizing mankind and its structures.

Other

predictions have been less clear, including one that had to do with
destruction of the Vatican and another ascribed to her that foresaw

the

assassination of Mikhail Gorbachev, events that of course have not
occurred.

However, those specific prophecies were related by others. The seer
herself has been more circumspect. "Live with hope and trust and

when the

moment of purification arrives, abandon yourselves entirely to me

and I

will give you your mission," she quotes the Blessed Mother as

saying.


In an interview with Spirit Daily two years ago, Archbishop Vicente
Rodrigo Cisneros Duran of Cuenca said he is taking a wait-and-see

attitude

toward apparitions and has not yet made a discernment on the

apparitions

or messages. "I am still watching and waiting," he said. As for his
personal opinion of the authenticity, the archbishop commented,

"Well, top

secret. I don't know that. I respect her as a person. I see her as

a good

person, very pious. So, we appreciate the personality of Pachi. I

think

she is very sincere. But I didn't [question] her yet because it's
difficult. There is no determination yet but maybe in the future."

A friend of Pachi's, Bernardita Jerves, was also granted a vision

of what

they call the "sacred chastisement" and was allegedly told by Mary

that

"one month before this circumstance happens you can notify all of

my

children."

Mary allegedly made clear that conversion would "soften" the Heart

of

Jesus, "and the intensity [of purification] can be diminished or be

lost

forever; if not, the great trial will come."

[resources: The Final Hour]



=====================================================================
=========

.
User: "Tadapope"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 05 Dec 2004 01:04:59 AM
Hairless Chia pets.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
Oh Joy!
Tom
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
.


User: "Tadapope"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 03 Dec 2004 05:53:38 PM
Most certainly! The BIGGIES are about to erupt on this planet in accordance
with the regular 600,000 year cycle of disasters.
***** the little *****. Mother nature is going
to take a mega dump and clean things up again.
BTW, 2005 = 7
The seventh seal is about to be broken.
My Home button doesn't wor any more.
Thus -- the end is surely near.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
Oh Joy!
Tom
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
.
User: "Uncle Wallys World"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 03 Dec 2004 08:13:12 PM
(Tadapope) wrote in message news:<20041203185338.08102.00001678@mb-m05.aol.com>...

Most certainly! The BIGGIES are about to erupt on this planet in accordance
with the regular 600,000 year cycle of disasters.

***** the little *****. Mother nature is going
to take a mega dump and clean things up again.

BTW, 2005 = 7
The seventh seal is about to be broken.
My Home button doesn't wor any more.
Thus -- the end is surely near.



Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *

Oh Joy!
Tom

The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet


http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/

Yeppers ;-) The roosters are surely coming home to roost, the FAT LADY
is warming up her lungs *BIG TIME* & the proverbial fan is so over-clogged
with the brown stuff -- it short-circuted........
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle wALLY qwq ESQ.
=========================================================================
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User: "Tadapope"

Title: Re: Things to come ?!?!?!?!??!? 05 Dec 2004 01:06:18 AM
I'm gonna spray it all down with Lysol and hot water and get things back in
proper shape.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
Oh Joy!
Tom
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
.





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