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Topic: Science > Prophecies-Of-Nostradamus
User: "TonyZ2001"
Date: 10 Jun 2004 09:33:23 AM
Object: Think he could say this in an Arab country?
Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews
Contends Islam's book decrees land is for people of Moses
Posted: June 10, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A contrarian Muslim professor claims the Quran actually teaches Israel belongs
to the Jews.
Khaleel Mohammed, assistant professor of religious studies at San Diego State
University, said in an interview with Frontpage Magazine the person most
mentioned in Islam's holy book is Moses, the great Old Testament prophet and
leader of the Israelites.
Mohammed says the Quran presents Moses "as God's revolutionary" who "leads a
people despised and tormented for no other reason than that they worshipped
God, out of the land of bondage to the Promised Holy Land."
The professor quotes from Chapter 5: 20-21, which says Moses declared, "O my
people! Remember the bounty of God upon you when He bestowed prophets upon you,
and made you kings and gave you that which had not been given to anyone before
you amongst the nations. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written
for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers."
Mohammed points specifically to the reference to the Holy Land as a place God
has "written" for the Israelites, a term that conveys, in Jewish and Islamic
understandings, a "meaning of finality, decisiveness and immutability."
"So the simple fact is then," he says, "from a faith-based point of view: If
God has 'written' Israel for the people of Moses, who can change this?"
The professor describes himself as a scholar "interested in a moderate Islam,
one that is inclusive and is concerned about all human rights."
"My mission is to help reclaim the beauty that once was practiced in Islam, a
message not currently in fashion amongst more traditional or fundamentalist
Muslims," he told Frontpage.
Mohammed said while Muslims may argue the present state of Israel was "not
created in the most peaceful means, and that many were displaced," this, for
him, is not the issue.
"The issue," says Mohammed, "is that when the Muslims entered that land in the
7th century, they were well aware of its rightful owners, and when they failed
to act according to divine mandate (at least as perceived by followers of all
Abrahamic faiths), they aided and abetted in a crime. And the present situation
shows the fruits of that action -- wherein innocent Palestinians and Israelis
are being killed on a daily basis."
He says medieval scholars, "without any exception known to me," interpreted the
Quran to recognize Israel as belonging to the Jews.
According to Mohammed, the idea that Israel does not belong to the Jews is a
modern one, "probably based on the Mideast rejection of European colonialism,
etc., but certainly not having anything to do with the Quran."
Most Muslims, he laments, do not read the Quran for themselves and instead rely
on imams and preachers to do the reading and interpreting for them.
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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Think he could say this in an Arab country? 10 Jun 2004 06:43:28 PM
In article <20040610103323.07875.00000892@mb-m06.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews
Contends Islam's book decrees land is for people of Moses

Could he say the opposite here?
Woods
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Think he could say this in an Arab country? 11 Jun 2004 09:51:41 AM

woodswun@tepidmail.com wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:

Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews
Contends Islam's book decrees land is >>for people of Moses

Could he say the opposite here?
Woods

LOL!!! They do every day.
But this post shows one thing, that you truely think badly about the nation
that you live in, it proves what I have said, that you are a self loathing
American.
Tony
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Think he could say this in an Arab country? 11 Jun 2004 10:02:38 AM
In article <20040611105141.05486.00000879@mb-m17.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com wrote:


(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews
Contends Islam's book decrees land is >>for people of Moses


Could he say the opposite here?


Woods


LOL!!! They do every day.

With plenty of heavy-duty grief.


But this post shows one thing, that you truely think badly about the nation
that you live in, it proves what I have said, that you are a self loathing
American.

You should check some of your previous posts, not to mention the
demonstrations/boycotts that have occurred when an American has dared to express
a minority opinion here or oversees. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites the
neocons are in thinking it's okay to support the right of someone to be in the
minority in other countries (so long as they're Christian or pro-Israel), but
you don't believe anyone should have that same right in America if they don't
happen to agree with you.
Woods
.

User: "ig"

Title: Re: Think he could say this in an Arab country? 11 Jun 2004 01:20:12 PM
Just a sec, comming down to your level....
......
.....
......
....... all you have is ***** between your ears!
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040611105141.05486.00000879@mb-m17.aol.com...


But this post shows one thing, that you truely think badly about the

nation

that you live in, it proves what I have said, that you are a self loathing
American.

Tony

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