"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I understand your point, and I understood when you suggested to some
members of the group that they just ignore Tony -- but did you
notice
what happened as soon as Tony posted his Tale of the Tape? Who,
other
than you, were the first three posters to respond in that thread?

Don't

worry about the women here -- they give as good as they get -- and

then

some.

That is exactly how I feel about it. The women do not need anyone to

*save*

them from Tony...this is not a rl case of battering, where Tony would
have

a

physical advantage just by virtue of his sex...this is just written

sparring

and everyone is equal (or should be).

Jane

We'll have a sane and friendly moment here. :-)

Can either of you two provide a cite where Dani, for example, made Tony
feel
physically threatened? Dani should be able to provide you with a
number
of
cites where she felt threatened by Tony. Enough so to file complaints.

All this happened well before you two started posting on apn, I
believe.

I was around for the "late night knocks on the door" post. I don't like
anything that implies a threat to anyone in rl, so I considered that way

out

of line (but stayed out of it, rather than commenting, as Dani has plenty

of

supporters). I don't like the impersonations a la Grantland, either,
because not everyone thinks to check the header. However, it would not
matter to me if the victim were male or female; that is my point. It was
just as wrong to post Tony's details here, whether you like the guy or

not.

Jane

Did you catch the ones where Tony was "fantasizing" about going up to
Boston
with some of his friends, picking up Dani in a bar and doing some unsavory
things to her?

There is a difference, in my mind, between "bluster" between males and
putting fear into a woman's heart.

Not to justify Aiden's original posting of Tony's "details"here. I believe
Aiden stated that if Tony did experience fear by that posting that it
should
make him able to relate what he'd done to some of the women in the group.
I
think it was a vain attempt to plant empathy in what is basically a
sociopathic heart.

Far be it from me to speak authoritatively on any fear Tony planted in
some
girl's heart. They can speak for themselves if they choose to do so.

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"Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in message
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I understand your point, and I understood when you suggested to some
members of the group that they just ignore Tony -- but did you notice
what happened as soon as Tony posted his Tale of the Tape? Who, other
than you, were the first three posters to respond in that thread?

Don't

worry about the women here -- they give as good as they get -- and

then

some.

That is exactly how I feel about it. The women do not need anyone to

*save*

them from Tony...this is not a rl case of battering, where Tony would
have

a

physical advantage just by virtue of his sex...this is just written

sparring

and everyone is equal (or should be).

Jane

We'll have a sane and friendly moment here. :-)

Can either of you two provide a cite where Dani, for example, made Tony
feel
physically threatened? Dani should be able to provide you with a number
of
cites where she felt threatened by Tony. Enough so to file complaints.

All this happened well before you two started posting on apn, I believe.

I was around for the "late night knocks on the door" post. I don't like
anything that implies a threat to anyone in rl, so I considered that way

out

of line (but stayed out of it, rather than commenting, as Dani has plenty

of

supporters). I don't like the impersonations a la Grantland, either,
because not everyone thinks to check the header. However, it would not
matter to me if the victim were male or female; that is my point. It was
just as wrong to post Tony's details here, whether you like the guy or

not.

Jane

Did you catch the ones where Tony was "fantasizing" about going up to Boston
with some of his friends, picking up Dani in a bar and doing some unsavory
things to her?

There is a difference, in my mind, between "bluster" between males and
putting fear into a woman's heart.
Not to justify Aiden's original posting of Tony's "details"here. I believe
Aiden stated that if Tony did experience fear by that posting that it should
make him able to relate what he'd done to some of the women in the group. I
think it was a vain attempt to plant empathy in what is basically a
sociopathic heart.
Far be it from me to speak authoritatively on any fear Tony planted in some
girl's heart. They can speak for themselves if they choose to do so.

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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That is exactly how I feel about it. The women do not need anyone to

*save*

them from Tony...this is not a rl case of battering, where Tony would
have

a

physical advantage just by virtue of his sex...this is just written

sparring

and everyone is equal (or should be).

I suppose in that case we shoudl all be sticking up for MacDonut and

Tony

then.. the poor sods are borderline illiterates.

Well, Michael can be, when he is upset...when he is not upset, he writes
quite lucidly.

Ah.. I only tend to see read him when he's upset though. I fully expect
him
to start posting in Wingdings one day...

I wouldn't call Tony "illiterate". Whether you like him or
not, that is just a cheap shot, :)

OK, substitute "utterly unable to respond to or form a coherent argument
with supporting evidence" then..

Jane