Didn't Edgar Cayce predict something like this would happen ?!?
I'm surprised that DJM hasn't chimed in on this one yet ;-)
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Friday, September 26, 2003
Hundreds injured in Japan quake
Hundreds of people have been injured after the strongest earthquake so
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26 Sep 2003 01:09:09 PM |
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(World War Three 2003) wrote in message news:<c6cdac60.0309260052.245a4212@posting.google.com>...
Didn't Edgar Cayce predict something like this would happen ?!?
I'm surprised that DJM hasn't chimed in on this one yet ;-)
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Friday, September 26, 2003
Hundreds injured in Japan quake
Hundreds of people have been injured after the strongest earthquake so
far this year shook the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido.
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How come the great sollog didn't see that one comming?
His direct hotline to his god must be down due to those nasty terrorists.
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| User: "R.Evans" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:00:47 PM |
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Gee, an earthquake in Japan.....go figure........
World War Three 2003 wrote:
Didn't Edgar Cayce predict something like this would happen ?!?
I'm surprised that DJM hasn't chimed in on this one yet ;-)
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Friday, September 26, 2003
Hundreds injured in Japan quake
Hundreds of people have been injured after the strongest earthquake so
far this year shook the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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26 Sep 2003 07:41:08 AM |
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In article <c6cdac60.0309260052.245a4212@posting.google.com>, (World War Three 2003) wrote:
Didn't Edgar Cayce predict something like this would happen ?!?
He merely stated that the greater portion of Japan would go into the sea,
with no time frame given. Since Japan sits on a plate in a subduction zone
for 3 major plates, and the one it's on is not on the top layer, this is
something that any geologist would be able to "predict".
Just about all of Cayce's earth predictions were supposed to take a very long
period of time - they were more statements on the eventual changes that would
come along naturally than anything else. (Of course, the waking Cayce
evidently didn't know much about science at all, so that would be the only
really "impressive" aspect of the statement on that).
Woods
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| User: "taluga" |
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27 Sep 2003 03:33:49 AM |
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i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea
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| User: "World War Three 2003" |
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28 Sep 2003 12:09:45 AM |
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"taluga" <spitfire@premier1.net> wrote in message news:<vnairfcnvsrv4d@corp.supernews.com>...
i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea....
Geeeeeez ;-)
Well, I'd better say Sayonara to my Northern Oriental friends now }:-(
And Domo arigato gozaimasu for the great culture and wonderful seafood !
}:-(
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:56:26 AM |
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In article <vnairfcnvsrv4d@corp.supernews.com>, "taluga" <spitfire@premier1.net> wrote:
i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea
Well, what I'm saying is that while there may have been some predictive facets
to his earth changes readings, they were not so much predicting catastrophies
in particular but explaining how things would be going along.
He also mentioned the use of light that bends (we know it as fiber optics),
light energy passed through a crystal to burn things (we know it as laser),
and other things that I can't think of off the top of my head.
No culture remains constant over aeons, you know, so we will have lost all of
the cultures of our current time by the time Japan is entirely subducted, I
would imagine.
Woods
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27 Sep 2003 05:24:04 PM |
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<uyhdb.5025$pe7.4854@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <vnairfcnvsrv4d@corp.supernews.com>, "taluga" <spitfire@premier1.net> wrote:
i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea
Well, what I'm saying is that while there may have been some predictive facets
to his earth changes readings, they were not so much predicting catastrophies
in particular but explaining how things would be going along.
He also mentioned the use of light that bends (we know it as fiber optics),
light energy passed through a crystal to burn things (we know it as laser),
and other things that I can't think of off the top of my head.
Seems to me Mr Cayce is credited with more credibility than his healing, after all what did he predict where is the War and continental Houdini of 98-99?
No culture remains constant over aeons, you know, so we will have lost all of
the cultures of our current time by the time Japan is entirely subducted, I
would imagine.
Woods
Perhaps but if Japan washes istelf to the floor The other side of the
Pacific would also get washed.
LB
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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27 Sep 2003 05:03:41 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:33:49 -0700, "taluga" <spitfire@premier1.net>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:58:45 AM |
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In article <01oanvka21egc732tlr67g553jkmfar8hd@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 01:33:49 -0700, "taluga" <spitfire@premier1.net>
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
i'm not sure woods, but it do i read it right that you believe cayce was
stating the obvious? the science of plate tectonics was founded well after
his death. during his time, his predictions had no basis in science. science
knows it all though. but they were sure surprised when they discovered the
remains of a forest as seabed off the oregon coast. don't remember how far
out it went, but the geniuses discovered that land does disappear in one
quick drop beneath the waves. too bad about japan. they really are a
fantastic people. maybe they can swim to korea
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
I'd have to look that up. I don't recall the term being used, but that
doesn't mean anything, human memory being what it is (selective)
;-)
Woods
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| User: "Peter Lemesurier" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:30:52 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:58:45 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
I'd have to look that up. I don't recall the term being used, but that
doesn't mean anything, human memory being what it is (selective)
It wouldn't have been that exact term, merely the idea of Japan going
into the sea...
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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27 Sep 2003 01:24:13 PM |
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In article <79bbnvouiqerlq3uueve6h3div3a03s2oa@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:58:45 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
I'd have to look that up. I don't recall the term being used, but that
doesn't mean anything, human memory being what it is (selective)
It wouldn't have been that exact term, merely the idea of Japan going
into the sea...
Oh, yes. In fact, I apparently recalled the quote almost exactly - pretty
scary to be wasting brain cells on remembering that! 0-0
Also, a portion of northern Europe will (supposedly) change "as in the
twinkling of an eye". I've always assumed this had to do with the ocean level
possibly rising and breaching all the dikes, but maybe not.
Woods
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27 Sep 2003 10:45:01 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:30:52 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> either wrote or (if
so marked) quoted:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:58:45 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
I'd have to look that up. I don't recall the term being used, but that
doesn't mean anything, human memory being what it is (selective)
It wouldn't have been that exact term, merely the idea of Japan going
into the sea...
OK, got it:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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27 Sep 2003 01:21:30 PM |
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In article <e0cbnv8t56a8beke912g059ursh8atepqm@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:30:52 +0100, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> either wrote or (if
so marked) quoted:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:58:45 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Wegener's hypothesis was published in 1915. Cayce was born in 1877 and
died in 1945. His 'readings' started in around 1910. Woods will no
doubt tell you when the 'plate tectonics' idea came up in his
readings...
I'd have to look that up. I don't recall the term being used, but that
doesn't mean anything, human memory being what it is (selective)
It wouldn't have been that exact term, merely the idea of Japan going
into the sea...
OK, got it:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
Yes, I've looked that up and that's correct. However, Wegener's hypothesis
was not accepted by the scientific community until the 1960s. (See
http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/henke/160/160Lec2.html - there are other links,
but felt that an academic source would be most reliable).
Woods
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28 Sep 2003 04:49:46 AM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:21:30 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
Yes, I've looked that up and that's correct. However, Wegener's hypothesis
was not accepted by the scientific community until the 1960s. (See
http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/henke/160/160Lec2.html - there are other links,
but felt that an academic source would be most reliable).
So the question, then, is 'what was Cayce in touch with, and via what
route' -- the source, or the later acceptance? He did rather tend to
'tap in' to the latest 'crazy fad', whether about the pyramids
(pyramidology), health (spinal work particularly) or anything else --
whether because he had recently read about it, or because it was 'in
the ether'...
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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28 Sep 2003 08:45:10 AM |
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In article <l9bdnvoeiacbd2bqmibaelpq5t366t77f0@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:21:30 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
Yes, I've looked that up and that's correct. However, Wegener's hypothesis
was not accepted by the scientific community until the 1960s. (See
http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/henke/160/160Lec2.html - there are other links,
but felt that an academic source would be most reliable).
So the question, then, is 'what was Cayce in touch with, and via what
route' -- the source, or the later acceptance? He did rather tend to
'tap in' to the latest 'crazy fad', whether about the pyramids
(pyramidology), health (spinal work particularly) or anything else --
whether because he had recently read about it, or because it was 'in
the ether'...
Yes, that is the question, isn't it? ;-)
According to those who knew him and his wife, it was Gertrude who was the
big reader, not Edgar. So, I would tend to doubt that he made any effort to
keep up on geological or health theories, although he could very well have
been influenced by those around him. Theories on the pyramids may have been
something he'd have an interest in, as that was mixed up with religious
thought at the turn of the 20th century, but much of the rest doesn't seem
likely (IMHO, of course).
According to the readings, Cayce got his information from the minds of those
around him, and occasionaly from "the Akashic Records" (or, the Book of
Life), both of which I would put into the category of Jung's (theoretical)
collective unconscious. As to whether this was actually the case, I don't
think anyone can say for sure - certainly there is no mechanism for proving or
disproving either at this point.
I think it all probably boils down to whether or not one believes that there
may be a mechanism whereby people may get some kind of foreknowledge of
possible events, or inner guidance/urges in choices, so as to help them or
prepare them for events that are to come. I think that those who believe in or
accept such a sense would fall into 3 categories - those who have experienced
it firsthand, either themselves or via observation in family/friends; those
who want to believe, but have no experiences to support such a belief; and
those who are willing to take other's word for it, but have no particular
interest or experience with it.
Woods
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28 Sep 2003 10:57:37 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:45:10 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
In article <l9bdnvoeiacbd2bqmibaelpq5t366t77f0@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:21:30 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
Yes, I've looked that up and that's correct. However, Wegener's hypothesis
was not accepted by the scientific community until the 1960s. (See
http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/henke/160/160Lec2.html - there are other links,
but felt that an academic source would be most reliable).
So the question, then, is 'what was Cayce in touch with, and via what
route' -- the source, or the later acceptance? He did rather tend to
'tap in' to the latest 'crazy fad', whether about the pyramids
(pyramidology), health (spinal work particularly) or anything else --
whether because he had recently read about it, or because it was 'in
the ether'...
Yes, that is the question, isn't it? ;-)
According to those who knew him and his wife, it was Gertrude who was the
big reader, not Edgar. So, I would tend to doubt that he made any effort to
keep up on geological or health theories, although he could very well have
been influenced by those around him. Theories on the pyramids may have been
something he'd have an interest in, as that was mixed up with religious
thought at the turn of the 20th century, but much of the rest doesn't seem
likely (IMHO, of course).
According to the readings, Cayce got his information from the minds of those
around him, and occasionaly from "the Akashic Records" (or, the Book of
Life), both of which I would put into the category of Jung's (theoretical)
collective unconscious. As to whether this was actually the case, I don't
think anyone can say for sure - certainly there is no mechanism for proving or
disproving either at this point.
I think it all probably boils down to whether or not one believes that there
may be a mechanism whereby people may get some kind of foreknowledge of
possible events, or inner guidance/urges in choices, so as to help them or
prepare them for events that are to come. I think that those who believe in or
accept such a sense would fall into 3 categories - those who have experienced
it firsthand, either themselves or via observation in family/friends; those
who want to believe, but have no experiences to support such a belief; and
those who are willing to take other's word for it, but have no particular
interest or experience with it.
Sure. However, being the old skeptic that I nowadays seem to have
become, I find myself rather wondering whether these weren't actually
all themes that he had previously discussed with his wife! ;)
Similar thing, oddly enough, with Sri Aurobindo...
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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28 Sep 2003 05:14:44 PM |
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In article <a11envogfvigm2g7bani1c26sp0r5l8l2i@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier <lemesur@bengalliftyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:45:10 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
In article <l9bdnvoeiacbd2bqmibaelpq5t366t77f0@4ax.com>, Peter Lemesurier
<lemesur@bengalstripyethisoutvillas.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:21:30 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
"The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea." (given January
19, 1934 -- well *after* Wegener had published his hypothesis).
Yes, I've looked that up and that's correct. However, Wegener's hypothesis
was not accepted by the scientific community until the 1960s. (See
http://www.uky.edu/AS/Geology/henke/160/160Lec2.html - there are other
links,
but felt that an academic source would be most reliable).
So the question, then, is 'what was Cayce in touch with, and via what
route' -- the source, or the later acceptance? He did rather tend to
'tap in' to the latest 'crazy fad', whether about the pyramids
(pyramidology), health (spinal work particularly) or anything else --
whether because he had recently read about it, or because it was 'in
the ether'...
Yes, that is the question, isn't it? ;-)
According to those who knew him and his wife, it was Gertrude who was the
big reader, not Edgar. So, I would tend to doubt that he made any effort to
keep up on geological or health theories, although he could very well have
been influenced by those around him. Theories on the pyramids may have been
something he'd have an interest in, as that was mixed up with religious
thought at the turn of the 20th century, but much of the rest doesn't seem
likely (IMHO, of course).
According to the readings, Cayce got his information from the minds of those
around him, and occasionaly from "the Akashic Records" (or, the Book of
Life), both of which I would put into the category of Jung's (theoretical)
collective unconscious. As to whether this was actually the case, I don't
think anyone can say for sure - certainly there is no mechanism for proving or
disproving either at this point.
I think it all probably boils down to whether or not one believes that there
may be a mechanism whereby people may get some kind of foreknowledge of
possible events, or inner guidance/urges in choices, so as to help them or
prepare them for events that are to come. I think that those who believe in or
accept such a sense would fall into 3 categories - those who have experienced
it firsthand, either themselves or via observation in family/friends; those
who want to believe, but have no experiences to support such a belief; and
those who are willing to take other's word for it, but have no particular
interest or experience with it.
Sure. However, being the old skeptic that I nowadays seem to have
become, I find myself rather wondering whether these weren't actually
all themes that he had previously discussed with his wife! ;)
Oh, that's certainly possible. I wouldn't know, not having been there, and
all.
Similar thing, oddly enough, with Sri Aurobindo...
Never heard of him before that I recall, just looking at a site about him now.
Woods
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29 Sep 2003 04:04:22 AM |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:14:44 GMT, (Woodswun)
either wrote or (if so marked) quoted:
Similar thing, oddly enough, with Sri Aurobindo...
Never heard of him before that I recall, just looking at a site about him now.
Married French wife. Curiously, thereafter, all his writings (to me at
least) seem to have a distinct French flavour about them! ;0
--
Peter
http://www.nostradamus500.com
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