January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Filed at 8:00 a.m. ET
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of people streamed into Hong
Kong streets on New Year's Day to demand greater democracy in the
biggest march since huge protests in July shocked local leaders and
Beijing.
Shouting ``We demand more democracy,'' ``Return power to the people''
and ``One man, one vote,'' political activists, workers and families
filed slowly from a park in the busy Causeway Bay shopping district to
government offices in central Hong Kong.
Organizers said 100,000 people had joined the march by 6 p.m. (1000
GMT), five times more than expected, while a Reuters photographer
estimated the number at 70,000 to 80,000. Police said they would not
provide a total figure.dispersing in the former British colony after
tying yellow ribbons to the gate of the government office to symbolize
their demands.
Before they set off, religious groups prayed that Hong Kong voters
would be allowed to elect their own leaders.
``We want full democracy -- the right to elect our own chief executive
and all members of the Legislative Council,'' said Richard Tsoi, a
spokesman for the organizers who also led the July 1 march, which drew
half a million people into the streets.
``China's new leaders have shown they are willing to listen to
people's views so it is important for Hong Kong people to stand up and
voice their demands strongly and clearly,'' Tsoi said.
TUNG'S POLICY SPEECH
Tsoi said Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa must address calls
for more democracy when he delivers his annual policy speech on
January 7 or face more protests.
``The size of the turnout was very encouraging. It sends a clear
message that Hong Kong people want full democracy and that is building
momentum.''
Hong Kong's first mass demonstration of the new year was widely seen
as a test of whether public anger at the deeply unpopular Tung has
cooled in recent months and was expected to be closely watched by
China's communist leaders.
Already fearful that Taiwan could move toward formal independence,
China is worried that calls for more democracy could loosen its grip
on Hong Kong and spread to the mainland.
Some pro-China politicians had warned that a large turnout Thursday
could increase anxiety in Beijing.
China largely controls Hong Kong, even though the city was promised a
high degree of autonomy after Britain handed it back in 1997. It
selects the city's leader and has devised a system that ensures many
law-makers are pro-government.
Hong Kong's constitution says its leader and all law-makers can be
directly elected from 2007 but gives no details.
After years of avoiding the issue, Tung's government has promised to
release soon a timetable for consultation. But many doubt Beijing will
allow direct elections for chief executive.
In a statement, the Hong Kong government said it would start
collecting views on democratic development as soon as possible.
NO BIG CHANGES
It also said it would move forward on reforms in a gradual and orderly
manner as stipulated in Hong Kong's constitution, wording which many
critics interpret as meaning that neither it nor Beijing want to see
any significant changes soon.
Tung has been fiercely criticized for a string of policy decisions
since he took office. His insistence on trying to push through a tough
anti-subversion bill sparked the July protest and triggered Hong
Kong's biggest political crisis in years.
Democracy parties, capitalizing on the growing frustration, dealt a
heavy blow to pro-China forces in local elections in November and are
gearing up for a September bid to wrest control of Hong Kong's top
legislative body.
Tung fueled fresh public anger Saturday by appointing 102 people to
district councils, snubbing demands that ordinary people be given more
say in choosing local leaders.
``The government didn't heed the voice of the people on July 1. They
still do whatever they want,'' said Anna Yip as she prepared to march.
Wary of inflaming public opinion further, the government has withdrawn
the security bill and backed down on other contentious plans. Two
unpopular ministers have resigned.
Beijing has also showered economic favors on the city since July in a
bid to boost public confidence.
While the economy has since improved, dissatisfaction with the
government continues to grow, feeding calls for reform.
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(Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message news:<7e4bfa4a.0401010658.1ca11a66@posting.google.com>...
January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Filed at 8:00 a.m. ET
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of people streamed into Hong
Kong streets on New Year's Day to demand greater democracy in the
biggest march since huge protests in July shocked local leaders and
Beijing.
Shouting ``We demand more democracy,'' ``Return power to the people''
and ``One man, one vote,'' political activists, workers and families
filed slowly from a park in the busy Causeway Bay shopping district to
government offices in central Hong Kong.
Organizers said 100,000 people had joined the march by 6 p.m. (1000
GMT), five times more than expected, while a Reuters photographer
estimated the number at 70,000 to 80,000. Police said they would not
provide a total figure.dispersing in the former British colony after
tying yellow ribbons to the gate of the government office to symbolize
their demands.
Before they set off, religious groups prayed that Hong Kong voters
would be allowed to elect their own leaders.
``We want full democracy -- the right to elect our own chief executive
and all members of the Legislative Council,'' said Richard Tsoi, a
spokesman for the organizers who also led the July 1 march, which drew
half a million people into the streets.
``China's new leaders have shown they are willing to listen to
people's views so it is important for Hong Kong people to stand up and
voice their demands strongly and clearly,'' Tsoi said.
TUNG'S POLICY SPEECH
Tsoi said Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa must address calls
for more democracy when he delivers his annual policy speech on
January 7 or face more protests.
``The size of the turnout was very encouraging. It sends a clear
message that Hong Kong people want full democracy and that is building
momentum.''
Hong Kong's first mass demonstration of the new year was widely seen
as a test of whether public anger at the deeply unpopular Tung has
cooled in recent months and was expected to be closely watched by
China's communist leaders.
Already fearful that Taiwan could move toward formal independence,
China is worried that calls for more democracy could loosen its grip
on Hong Kong and spread to the mainland.
Some pro-China politicians had warned that a large turnout Thursday
could increase anxiety in Beijing.
China largely controls Hong Kong, even though the city was promised a
high degree of autonomy after Britain handed it back in 1997. It
selects the city's leader and has devised a system that ensures many
law-makers are pro-government.
Hong Kong's constitution says its leader and all law-makers can be
directly elected from 2007 but gives no details.
After years of avoiding the issue, Tung's government has promised to
release soon a timetable for consultation. But many doubt Beijing will
allow direct elections for chief executive.
In a statement, the Hong Kong government said it would start
collecting views on democratic development as soon as possible.
NO BIG CHANGES
It also said it would move forward on reforms in a gradual and orderly
manner as stipulated in Hong Kong's constitution, wording which many
critics interpret as meaning that neither it nor Beijing want to see
any significant changes soon.
Tung has been fiercely criticized for a string of policy decisions
since he took office. His insistence on trying to push through a tough
anti-subversion bill sparked the July protest and triggered Hong
Kong's biggest political crisis in years.
Democracy parties, capitalizing on the growing frustration, dealt a
heavy blow to pro-China forces in local elections in November and are
gearing up for a September bid to wrest control of Hong Kong's top
legislative body.
Tung fueled fresh public anger Saturday by appointing 102 people to
district councils, snubbing demands that ordinary people be given more
say in choosing local leaders.
``The government didn't heed the voice of the people on July 1. They
still do whatever they want,'' said Anna Yip as she prepared to march.
Wary of inflaming public opinion further, the government has withdrawn
the security bill and backed down on other contentious plans. Two
unpopular ministers have resigned.
Beijing has also showered economic favors on the city since July in a
bid to boost public confidence.
While the economy has since improved, dissatisfaction with the
government continues to grow, feeding calls for reform.
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelandet
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January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
EEM The brits "borrowed" Hong Kong for 99 years. It was never a permanent
solution.
WH
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January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Yes, the desire to be free and controlling one's own destiny
seems to be universal. The life-term dictators of china should
take note of this.
Of course, hong kong was 'given back' due to a long term
lease agreement.
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:03:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
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abookoflife@yahoo.com (Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message
news:<7e4bfa4a.0401010658.1ca11a66@posting.google.com>...
January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Yes, the desire to be free and controlling one's own destiny
seems to be universal. The life-term dictators of china should
take note of this.
And what happens when you American pond scum lose all your
rights....real soon now?
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Spat the Words
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:03:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
abookoflife@yahoo.com (Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
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January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Yes, the desire to be free and controlling one's own destiny
seems to be universal. The life-term dictators of china should
take note of this.
And what happens when you American pond scum lose all your
rights....real soon now?
We're all waiting for your 'predictions' to come true,
darksheist. When exactly are these going to take place?
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:23:56 GMT, "R. Foreman"
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DaarkSyde@everywhere.com Spat the Words
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:03:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
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abookoflife@yahoo.com (Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message
news:<7e4bfa4a.0401010658.1ca11a66@posting.google.com>...
January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Yes, the desire to be free and controlling one's own destiny
seems to be universal. The life-term dictators of china should
take note of this.
And what happens when you American pond scum lose all your
rights....real soon now?
We're all waiting for your 'predictions' to come true,
darksheist. When exactly are these going to take place?
Ask your government. They will be the ones causing them.
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Pond scum to be discovered in Laytonville, California will become the cure all
for all mental and physical disorders and be distributed freely through the
world.
Then the world population will multiply by a factor of 5 and the wisdom of
mother nature will thus erupt and
shake herself in a thinning out and planatary cleansing
convulsion and then everything will be all good again.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Seville
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http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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R. Foreman a écrit:
DaarkSyde@everywhere.com Spat the Words
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:03:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
abookoflife@yahoo.com (Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
arnold_holbrook@mailcity.com (Arnold Holbrook) wrote in message
news:<7e4bfa4a.0401010658.1ca11a66@posting.google.com>...
January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Look what happened when the west gave back Hong Kong to Chinese
control? They screw it up and the people want democracy back..
Yes, the desire to be free and controlling one's own destiny
seems to be universal. The life-term dictators of china should
take note of this.
And what happens when you American pond scum lose all your
rights....real soon now?
We're all waiting for your 'predictions' to come true,
darksheist. When exactly are these going to take place?
hehehe
J.
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January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Filed at 8:00 a.m. ET
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Yep, that's the way to do it. Post it twice and double your readership.
Ricky
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Arnold Holbrook a écrit:
January 1, 2004
Thousands in Hong Kong Streets Demand Democracy
By REUTERS
Filed at 8:00 a.m. ET
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of people streamed into Hong
Kong streets on New Year's Day to demand greater democracy in the
biggest march since huge protests in July shocked local leaders and
Beijing.
Nice article.
The synchronization of the transition from the old China that is
rocketing towards the new, and the Newe China that is crumbling toweards
the old doesn't get easier in 2004 it appears...
Won't help much to sway Tawain towards more subjection and less
autonomy, at least, apparently... But it is not cast in stone, the
future could appear to be brighter to them if China evolves a lot.
Indeed Hong Kong is key. But it is hard to conciliate the need to invest
in the impressive infrastructure there with the means available to the
rest of the emerging China. (Coincidently, my brother flies back there
tomorrow morning.)
Anyway, in short, with this kind of difficulty of adaptation for this
turned over colony, the Tawain dilemma is not about resolved easily...
J.
Shouting ``We demand more democracy,'' ``Return power to the people''
and ``One man, one vote,'' political activists, workers and families
filed slowly from a park in the busy Causeway Bay shopping district to
government offices in central Hong Kong.
Organizers said 100,000 people had joined the march by 6 p.m. (1000
GMT), five times more than expected, while a Reuters photographer
estimated the number at 70,000 to 80,000. Police said they would not
provide a total figure.dispersing in the former British colony after
tying yellow ribbons to the gate of the government office to symbolize
their demands.
Before they set off, religious groups prayed that Hong Kong voters
would be allowed to elect their own leaders.
``We want full democracy -- the right to elect our own chief executive
and all members of the Legislative Council,'' said Richard Tsoi, a
spokesman for the organizers who also led the July 1 march, which drew
half a million people into the streets.
``China's new leaders have shown they are willing to listen to
people's views so it is important for Hong Kong people to stand up and
voice their demands strongly and clearly,'' Tsoi said.
TUNG'S POLICY SPEECH
Tsoi said Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa must address calls
for more democracy when he delivers his annual policy speech on
January 7 or face more protests.
``The size of the turnout was very encouraging. It sends a clear
message that Hong Kong people want full democracy and that is building
momentum.''
Hong Kong's first mass demonstration of the new year was widely seen
as a test of whether public anger at the deeply unpopular Tung has
cooled in recent months and was expected to be closely watched by
China's communist leaders.
Already fearful that Taiwan could move toward formal independence,
China is worried that calls for more democracy could loosen its grip
on Hong Kong and spread to the mainland.
Some pro-China politicians had warned that a large turnout Thursday
could increase anxiety in Beijing.
China largely controls Hong Kong, even though the city was promised a
high degree of autonomy after Britain handed it back in 1997. It
selects the city's leader and has devised a system that ensures many
law-makers are pro-government.
Hong Kong's constitution says its leader and all law-makers can be
directly elected from 2007 but gives no details.
After years of avoiding the issue, Tung's government has promised to
release soon a timetable for consultation. But many doubt Beijing will
allow direct elections for chief executive.
In a statement, the Hong Kong government said it would start
collecting views on democratic development as soon as possible.
NO BIG CHANGES
It also said it would move forward on reforms in a gradual and orderly
manner as stipulated in Hong Kong's constitution, wording which many
critics interpret as meaning that neither it nor Beijing want to see
any significant changes soon.
Tung has been fiercely criticized for a string of policy decisions
since he took office. His insistence on trying to push through a tough
anti-subversion bill sparked the July protest and triggered Hong
Kong's biggest political crisis in years.
Democracy parties, capitalizing on the growing frustration, dealt a
heavy blow to pro-China forces in local elections in November and are
gearing up for a September bid to wrest control of Hong Kong's top
legislative body.
Tung fueled fresh public anger Saturday by appointing 102 people to
district councils, snubbing demands that ordinary people be given more
say in choosing local leaders.
``The government didn't heed the voice of the people on July 1. They
still do whatever they want,'' said Anna Yip as she prepared to march.
Wary of inflaming public opinion further, the government has withdrawn
the security bill and backed down on other contentious plans. Two
unpopular ministers have resigned.
Beijing has also showered economic favors on the city since July in a
bid to boost public confidence.
While the economy has since improved, dissatisfaction with the
government continues to grow, feeding calls for reform.
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Rumor has it that they are putting it on sale this coming Monday for $1.99 a
pound.
The Psychedelick Pope
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http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
All I want to do is WOMP WOMP!!!!!
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