"DavidK" <noreply@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<wFsrc.5455
$Ly.595864@attbi_s51>...
Tony here is another one of your compulsive fans (See thread link
below). Also, not much of a posting history to this one - sounds
suspicious though.
Repeat post: See original thread 'Below'
---
Do you know Dani by any chance? Sure sounds like her politics, her
writing skills, definitely compulsive, and brutal attacks on Tony's
politics, with a different name attached of course, but same area and
ISP ;) However, I cannot be sure because I do not know these things.
However, you supplied no historical evidence to back up your
accusation, which amounts to you being nothing but hot-wind.
point: Simply if you do not know history then you cannot argue
anything, which seems to be the case in your response.
Have a nice day.
--Fan Section:--
DavidK
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.20.74.97
X-Complaints-To:
Dani:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.151.235
X-Complaints-To:
Note: Compulsion of Tony. Lol.
"You are a fool and a danger to all Americans Tony and people like you
will bring about the death of our Democracy, which hangs by a thin
thread at this momnent."
"She said she was ashamed of
America Tony and she deserves to have a strong"
"Tony you make a fool out of yourself and shame all your countymen at
the
same time."
"You're a fool Tony and you should apologize to America and to the
world...
and then grow a heart and maybe even a brain.
"
Source: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:noreply%40comcast.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=E0trc.5422%24ny.1017753%40attbi_s53&rnum=2
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original thread section:
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Wow... there is some really sick stuff in this guy's reply. If anyone is
hurting America it's the sick bastards that are trying to rewrite history
for the ill-informed and justify/excuse sadistic acts of torture. He says
"Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years." but it's obvious he has no grasp on
history at all.
See response above and history for confirmation.
In fact it seems that today knowledge of history is
worthless if it doesn't support your particular agenda, like the Republican
Senator who said the US Constitution was "quaint" and irrelevant. Ironically
the same words were used by Enron's lawyer in counseling the Bush Whitehouse
on how to get around the Geneva Convention.
The abuse and torture being committed in Iraq, by Americans, goes every bit
as far as any historical example you'd care to examine. First of all, saying
they are only torturing bad people or trying to change the subject to talk
about some unrelated event is a ***** and totally chickenshit response.
The women, young boys and journalists whose stories we have been told were
not terrorists or murderers. If these people are so bad why did the Red
Cross point out that up to 90% of the "detainees" are law-abiding, innocent
Iraqi citizens? You who would justify or excuse these atrocities bring shame
of a biblical proportion on America.
The latest revelations of force-feeding pork and alcohol to the prisoners,
beating them mercilessly until they renounce their God and their Religion,
and the statements from the ranking General in charge of setting up the
prison "interrogation" techniques, General Boykin, that the Muslims worship
a false god, prove that America is the current domain of the same mental
illness that was the Third Reich and the sickest manifestations of the Roman
Empire. It sounds remarkably like the stuff I was taught in school about the
persecution of early Christians who were beat mercilessly, tortured and
killed if they wouldn't renounce their religion.
The silence (and in some cases expressed support for the atrocities) of the
religious "right", the fundamentalists and spiritual advisors to the Bush
administration and so-called evangelical leaders of the Christians in
America only proves that they are complete hypocrites. Phonies who cannot
lead or consul anyone in a time of such desperate need for moral guidance.
Islam teaches its followers that Jesus was not an ordinary man but was in
fact the son of God. They are the only religion besides Christianity that
observes the divinity of Christ and believes in the Virgin birth. They
rervere Mary as the most exalted and holy of all women. Sure, they have
problems too, mostly stemming from the greed of the people who took over the
institution after Mohamed's death, exactly as "Christianity" suffers from
the incredible atrocities committed throughout history in the name of
Christianity because of greed and power-mad leaders. Anyone who thinks Jesus
would be ok with his brothers being treated badly is just plain stupid.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own
desicions. The people who would commit acts of degredation, humiliation,
rape, torture and murder I believe have a predictable fate. I'm surprised by
the others who don't commit these acts but try to minimize and excuse them,
the vast complicit majority who are the only reason such acts can be
committed. They are the most guilty because they guarantee that such acts
will occur again and again in the name of some seemingly justified cause.
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0405210834.4cbe827@posting.google.com...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
news:<aeb81$40ad8977$40762817$25944@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>...
I'm pretty disgusted after reading about the latest pictures coming from
abu garaib prison.
Should be.
If these allegations are true, then I'm sorry to say
that the current White House administration needs to go.
I do not think it is the White House administration's fault. But, as
poli. goes they get the blame, right?
As much as it
pains me to say it, Bush and Rummy are toast.
So are you changing your support? The Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years. You think your supporting of them
will make them stop killing the westerners?
I have a feeling you have been suck in to the left-wing Bush-bashing
and not seen a balanced view. Yes, it's bad, but is not the whole
military, and those involved are getting prison sentences, as well.
Also, I don't think Bush or Rumy said do this either.
What the hell happened to military discipline since 1991? This doesn't
look anything like the military is served.
I see you complain about our military of today. I would suspect you
are making a comparison to the WWII group, like so many others in the
street. If the WWII group was here, those prisoners would be dead and
many Iraqi cities leveled without regard for innocents. Those Iraqi
prisoners are alive, yet the civilians that were killed by the
dragging, the burning and the suspending seem to be OK because you
have not mentioned that this insurgent group in Iraq is worse to our
prisoners - they torture then kill them.
I suspect you are hoodwinked by lefty media. Stop watching the news
and began to read many papers on what is really going on. The TV will
only tell you what the Lefty wants you to know - that America is evil
and must fall.
I also have a feeling that you do not know too much history of how
these problems were treated in the past, because this is not the first
time either.
WASH TIMES: Press can't let abuse story go; Ignores positive
developments...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040520-115221-2362r.htm
Also, WTF is this attack by the GOP powerbase against Sen McCain? McCain
is one of my heros. He's a man with both integrity and honor. I so
fucking disgusted tonight I could scream.
Why is the GOP mad at him?
McCain was mentally damaged in war, and he has a propensity to change
parties, and / or party dialogs. There are good and bad aspects of
this. The bad is that everyone will alienate you form their parties,
and the good side (Perceptibly) is that you can become a mediator and
form a third party ( That is your own charisma - like Clinton)
playing off the two other party's to be the leader. [Sometimes called
a moderate, or Tony Blair's version " the Third Way".]
.
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: Tony another one of your compulsive fans. |
22 May 2004 04:07:06 PM |
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On 22 May 2004 12:54:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"DavidK" <noreply@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<wFsrc.5455
$Ly.595864@attbi_s51>...
Tony here is another one of your compulsive fans (See thread link
below). Also, not much of a posting history to this one - sounds
suspicious though.
Repeat post: See original thread 'Below'
Do you know Dani by any chance? Sure sounds like her politics, her
writing skills, definitely compulsive, and brutal attacks on Tony's
politics, with a different name attached of course, but same area and
ISP ;)
Ah.. what are you on about now, mental?
However, I cannot be sure because I do not know these things.
However, you supplied no historical evidence to back up your
accusation, which amounts to you being nothing but hot-wind.
point: Simply if you do not know history then you cannot argue
anything, which seems to be the case in your response.
Have a nice day.
--Fan Section:--
DavidK
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.20.74.97
X-Complaints-To:
Ah.. these are not the "same" (as you say above) ISP's, mental.
I have no idea who David K is.
Why am I not surprised that you would inadvertently condone what
Tony has done. Guess I can't say you're a male chauvinist, sexist pig
though, now can I?
Dani:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.151.235
X-Complaints-To:
Note: Compulsion of Tony. Lol.
"You are a fool and a danger to all Americans Tony and people like you
will bring about the death of our Democracy, which hangs by a thin
thread at this momnent."
"She said she was ashamed of
America Tony and she deserves to have a strong"
"Tony you make a fool out of yourself and shame all your countymen at
the
same time."
"You're a fool Tony and you should apologize to America and to the
world...
and then grow a heart and maybe even a brain.
"
Source: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:noreply%40comcast.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=E0trc.5422%24ny.1017753%40attbi_s53&rnum=2
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original thread section:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=40af4e72.476241839%40ct-news.iafrica.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.prophecies.nostradamus%26start%3D25
Wow... there is some really sick stuff in this guy's reply. If anyone is
hurting America it's the sick bastards that are trying to rewrite history
for the ill-informed and justify/excuse sadistic acts of torture. He says
"Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years." but it's obvious he has no grasp on
history at all.
See response above and history for confirmation.
In fact it seems that today knowledge of history is
worthless if it doesn't support your particular agenda, like the Republican
Senator who said the US Constitution was "quaint" and irrelevant. Ironically
the same words were used by Enron's lawyer in counseling the Bush Whitehouse
on how to get around the Geneva Convention.
The abuse and torture being committed in Iraq, by Americans, goes every bit
as far as any historical example you'd care to examine. First of all, saying
they are only torturing bad people or trying to change the subject to talk
about some unrelated event is a ***** and totally chickenshit response.
The women, young boys and journalists whose stories we have been told were
not terrorists or murderers. If these people are so bad why did the Red
Cross point out that up to 90% of the "detainees" are law-abiding, innocent
Iraqi citizens? You who would justify or excuse these atrocities bring shame
of a biblical proportion on America.
The latest revelations of force-feeding pork and alcohol to the prisoners,
beating them mercilessly until they renounce their God and their Religion,
and the statements from the ranking General in charge of setting up the
prison "interrogation" techniques, General Boykin, that the Muslims worship
a false god, prove that America is the current domain of the same mental
illness that was the Third Reich and the sickest manifestations of the Roman
Empire. It sounds remarkably like the stuff I was taught in school about the
persecution of early Christians who were beat mercilessly, tortured and
killed if they wouldn't renounce their religion.
The silence (and in some cases expressed support for the atrocities) of the
religious "right", the fundamentalists and spiritual advisors to the Bush
administration and so-called evangelical leaders of the Christians in
America only proves that they are complete hypocrites. Phonies who cannot
lead or consul anyone in a time of such desperate need for moral guidance.
Islam teaches its followers that Jesus was not an ordinary man but was in
fact the son of God. They are the only religion besides Christianity that
observes the divinity of Christ and believes in the Virgin birth. They
rervere Mary as the most exalted and holy of all women. Sure, they have
problems too, mostly stemming from the greed of the people who took over the
institution after Mohamed's death, exactly as "Christianity" suffers from
the incredible atrocities committed throughout history in the name of
Christianity because of greed and power-mad leaders. Anyone who thinks Jesus
would be ok with his brothers being treated badly is just plain stupid.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own
desicions. The people who would commit acts of degredation, humiliation,
rape, torture and murder I believe have a predictable fate. I'm surprised by
the others who don't commit these acts but try to minimize and excuse them,
the vast complicit majority who are the only reason such acts can be
committed. They are the most guilty because they guarantee that such acts
will occur again and again in the name of some seemingly justified cause.
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" < > wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0405210834.4cbe827@posting.google.com...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
news:<aeb81$40ad8977$40762817$25944@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>...
I'm pretty disgusted after reading about the latest pictures coming from
abu garaib prison.
Should be.
If these allegations are true, then I'm sorry to say
that the current White House administration needs to go.
I do not think it is the White House administration's fault. But, as
poli. goes they get the blame, right?
As much as it
pains me to say it, Bush and Rummy are toast.
So are you changing your support? The Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years. You think your supporting of them
will make them stop killing the westerners?
I have a feeling you have been suck in to the left-wing Bush-bashing
and not seen a balanced view. Yes, it's bad, but is not the whole
military, and those involved are getting prison sentences, as well.
Also, I don't think Bush or Rumy said do this either.
What the hell happened to military discipline since 1991? This doesn't
look anything like the military is served.
I see you complain about our military of today. I would suspect you
are making a comparison to the WWII group, like so many others in the
street. If the WWII group was here, those prisoners would be dead and
many Iraqi cities leveled without regard for innocents. Those Iraqi
prisoners are alive, yet the civilians that were killed by the
dragging, the burning and the suspending seem to be OK because you
have not mentioned that this insurgent group in Iraq is worse to our
prisoners - they torture then kill them.
I suspect you are hoodwinked by lefty media. Stop watching the news
and began to read many papers on what is really going on. The TV will
only tell you what the Lefty wants you to know - that America is evil
and must fall.
I also have a feeling that you do not know too much history of how
these problems were treated in the past, because this is not the first
time either.
WASH TIMES: Press can't let abuse story go; Ignores positive
developments...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040520-115221-2362r.htm
Also, WTF is this attack by the GOP powerbase against Sen McCain? McCain
is one of my heros. He's a man with both integrity and honor. I so
fucking disgusted tonight I could scream.
Why is the GOP mad at him?
McCain was mentally damaged in war, and he has a propensity to change
parties, and / or party dialogs. There are good and bad aspects of
this. The bad is that everyone will alienate you form their parties,
and the good side (Perceptibly) is that you can become a mediator and
form a third party ( That is your own charisma - like Clinton)
playing off the two other party's to be the leader. [Sometimes called
a moderate, or Tony Blair's version " the Third Way".]
.
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| User: "christisdore" |
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| Title: Re: Tony another one of your compulsive fans. |
23 May 2004 04:32:18 PM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<lifva01skhsnsetkdlcm6h5rq2b9ou5llt@4ax.com>...
On 22 May 2004 12:54:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"DavidK" <noreply@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<wFsrc.5455
$Ly.595864@attbi_s51>...
Tony here is another one of your compulsive fans (See thread link
below). Also, not much of a posting history to this one - sounds
suspicious though.
Repeat post: See original thread 'Below'
Do you know Dani by any chance? Sure sounds like her politics, her
writing skills, definitely compulsive, and brutal attacks on Tony's
politics, with a different name attached of course, but same area and
ISP ;)
Ah.. what are you on about now, mental?
However, I cannot be sure because I do not know these things.
However, you supplied no historical evidence to back up your
accusation, which amounts to you being nothing but hot-wind.
point: Simply if you do not know history then you cannot argue
anything, which seems to be the case in your response.
Have a nice day.
--Fan Section:--
DavidK
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.20.74.97
X-Complaints-To:
Ah.. these are not the "same" (as you say above) ISP's, mental.
I have no idea who David K is.
Why am I not surprised that you would inadvertently condone what
Tony has done. Guess I can't say you're a male chauvinist, sexist pig
though, now can I?
You are not a lily pure victim. That is mean bait. Not that others
haven't brought up the topic though.
.....................
Dani:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.151.235
X-Complaints-To:
Note: Compulsion of Tony. Lol.
"You are a fool and a danger to all Americans Tony and people like you
will bring about the death of our Democracy, which hangs by a thin
thread at this momnent."
"She said she was ashamed of
America Tony and she deserves to have a strong"
"Tony you make a fool out of yourself and shame all your countymen at
the
same time."
"You're a fool Tony and you should apologize to America and to the
world...
and then grow a heart and maybe even a brain.
"
Source: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:noreply%40comcast.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=E0trc.5422%24ny.1017753%40attbi_s53&rnum=2
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original thread section:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=40af4e72.476241839%40ct-news.iafrica.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.prophecies.nostradamus%26start%3D25
Wow... there is some really sick stuff in this guy's reply. If anyone is
hurting America it's the sick bastards that are trying to rewrite history
for the ill-informed and justify/excuse sadistic acts of torture. He says
"Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years." but it's obvious he has no grasp on
history at all.
See response above and history for confirmation.
In fact it seems that today knowledge of history is
worthless if it doesn't support your particular agenda, like the Republican
Senator who said the US Constitution was "quaint" and irrelevant. Ironically
the same words were used by Enron's lawyer in counseling the Bush Whitehouse
on how to get around the Geneva Convention.
The abuse and torture being committed in Iraq, by Americans, goes every bit
as far as any historical example you'd care to examine. First of all, saying
they are only torturing bad people or trying to change the subject to talk
about some unrelated event is a ***** and totally chickenshit response.
The women, young boys and journalists whose stories we have been told were
not terrorists or murderers. If these people are so bad why did the Red
Cross point out that up to 90% of the "detainees" are law-abiding, innocent
Iraqi citizens? You who would justify or excuse these atrocities bring shame
of a biblical proportion on America.
The latest revelations of force-feeding pork and alcohol to the prisoners,
beating them mercilessly until they renounce their God and their Religion,
and the statements from the ranking General in charge of setting up the
prison "interrogation" techniques, General Boykin, that the Muslims worship
a false god, prove that America is the current domain of the same mental
illness that was the Third Reich and the sickest manifestations of the Roman
Empire. It sounds remarkably like the stuff I was taught in school about the
persecution of early Christians who were beat mercilessly, tortured and
killed if they wouldn't renounce their religion.
The silence (and in some cases expressed support for the atrocities) of the
religious "right", the fundamentalists and spiritual advisors to the Bush
administration and so-called evangelical leaders of the Christians in
America only proves that they are complete hypocrites. Phonies who cannot
lead or consul anyone in a time of such desperate need for moral guidance.
Islam teaches its followers that Jesus was not an ordinary man but was in
fact the son of God. They are the only religion besides Christianity that
observes the divinity of Christ and believes in the Virgin birth. They
rervere Mary as the most exalted and holy of all women. Sure, they have
problems too, mostly stemming from the greed of the people who took over the
institution after Mohamed's death, exactly as "Christianity" suffers from
the incredible atrocities committed throughout history in the name of
Christianity because of greed and power-mad leaders. Anyone who thinks Jesus
would be ok with his brothers being treated badly is just plain stupid.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own
desicions. The people who would commit acts of degredation, humiliation,
rape, torture and murder I believe have a predictable fate. I'm surprised by
the others who don't commit these acts but try to minimize and excuse them,
the vast complicit majority who are the only reason such acts can be
committed. They are the most guilty because they guarantee that such acts
will occur again and again in the name of some seemingly justified cause.
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" < > wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0405210834.4cbe827@posting.google.com...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
news:<aeb81$40ad8977$40762817$25944@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>...
I'm pretty disgusted after reading about the latest pictures coming from
abu garaib prison.
Should be.
If these allegations are true, then I'm sorry to say
that the current White House administration needs to go.
I do not think it is the White House administration's fault. But, as
poli. goes they get the blame, right?
As much as it
pains me to say it, Bush and Rummy are toast.
So are you changing your support? The Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years. You think your supporting of them
will make them stop killing the westerners?
I have a feeling you have been suck in to the left-wing Bush-bashing
and not seen a balanced view. Yes, it's bad, but is not the whole
military, and those involved are getting prison sentences, as well.
Also, I don't think Bush or Rumy said do this either.
What the hell happened to military discipline since 1991? This doesn't
look anything like the military is served.
I see you complain about our military of today. I would suspect you
are making a comparison to the WWII group, like so many others in the
street. If the WWII group was here, those prisoners would be dead and
many Iraqi cities leveled without regard for innocents. Those Iraqi
prisoners are alive, yet the civilians that were killed by the
dragging, the burning and the suspending seem to be OK because you
have not mentioned that this insurgent group in Iraq is worse to our
prisoners - they torture then kill them.
I suspect you are hoodwinked by lefty media. Stop watching the news
and began to read many papers on what is really going on. The TV will
only tell you what the Lefty wants you to know - that America is evil
and must fall.
I also have a feeling that you do not know too much history of how
these problems were treated in the past, because this is not the first
time either.
WASH TIMES: Press can't let abuse story go; Ignores positive
developments...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040520-115221-2362r.htm
Also, WTF is this attack by the GOP powerbase against Sen McCain? McCain
is one of my heros. He's a man with both integrity and honor. I so
fucking disgusted tonight I could scream.
Why is the GOP mad at him?
McCain was mentally damaged in war, and he has a propensity to change
parties, and / or party dialogs. There are good and bad aspects of
this. The bad is that everyone will alienate you form their parties,
and the good side (Perceptibly) is that you can become a mediator and
form a third party ( That is your own charisma - like Clinton)
playing off the two other party's to be the leader. [Sometimes called
a moderate, or Tony Blair's version " the Third Way".]
.
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| User: "christisdore" |
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| Title: Re: Tony another one of your compulsive fans. |
23 May 2004 07:56:04 PM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<lifva01skhsnsetkdlcm6h5rq2b9ou5llt@4ax.com>...
On 22 May 2004 12:54:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"DavidK" <noreply@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<wFsrc.5455
$Ly.595864@attbi_s51>...
Tony here is another one of your compulsive fans (See thread link
below). Also, not much of a posting history to this one - sounds
suspicious though.
Repeat post: See original thread 'Below'
Do you know Dani by any chance? Sure sounds like her politics, her
writing skills, definitely compulsive, and brutal attacks on Tony's
politics, with a different name attached of course, but same area and
ISP ;)
Ah.. what are you on about now, mental?
However, I cannot be sure because I do not know these things.
However, you supplied no historical evidence to back up your
accusation, which amounts to you being nothing but hot-wind.
point: Simply if you do not know history then you cannot argue
anything, which seems to be the case in your response.
Have a nice day.
--Fan Section:--
DavidK
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.20.74.97
X-Complaints-To:
Ah.. these are not the "same" (as you say above) ISP's, mental.
I have no idea who David K is.
Maybe Michael has a great amount of info in his head, but has a
learning disability like dyslexia. But you implied he wasn't making
sense, is "mental" or crazy, and below you imply he's gay. Though
these allegations have been made before by others; those have been
based on supposition, and flimsy evidence. You hate it when people
make suppositions about you based on flimsy evidence. Or maybe you
like it. Can apn stop playing Daniworld games? Apparently not.
........
Why am I not surprised that you would inadvertently condone what
Tony has done. Guess I can't say you're a male chauvinist, sexist pig
though, now can I?
Dani:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.151.235
X-Complaints-To:
Note: Compulsion of Tony. Lol.
"You are a fool and a danger to all Americans Tony and people like you
will bring about the death of our Democracy, which hangs by a thin
thread at this momnent."
"She said she was ashamed of
America Tony and she deserves to have a strong"
"Tony you make a fool out of yourself and shame all your countymen at
the
same time."
"You're a fool Tony and you should apologize to America and to the
world...
and then grow a heart and maybe even a brain.
"
Source: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:noreply%40comcast.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=E0trc.5422%24ny.1017753%40attbi_s53&rnum=2
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original thread section:
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Wow... there is some really sick stuff in this guy's reply. If anyone is
hurting America it's the sick bastards that are trying to rewrite history
for the ill-informed and justify/excuse sadistic acts of torture. He says
"Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years." but it's obvious he has no grasp on
history at all.
See response above and history for confirmation.
In fact it seems that today knowledge of history is
worthless if it doesn't support your particular agenda, like the Republican
Senator who said the US Constitution was "quaint" and irrelevant. Ironically
the same words were used by Enron's lawyer in counseling the Bush Whitehouse
on how to get around the Geneva Convention.
The abuse and torture being committed in Iraq, by Americans, goes every bit
as far as any historical example you'd care to examine. First of all, saying
they are only torturing bad people or trying to change the subject to talk
about some unrelated event is a ***** and totally chickenshit response.
The women, young boys and journalists whose stories we have been told were
not terrorists or murderers. If these people are so bad why did the Red
Cross point out that up to 90% of the "detainees" are law-abiding, innocent
Iraqi citizens? You who would justify or excuse these atrocities bring shame
of a biblical proportion on America.
The latest revelations of force-feeding pork and alcohol to the prisoners,
beating them mercilessly until they renounce their God and their Religion,
and the statements from the ranking General in charge of setting up the
prison "interrogation" techniques, General Boykin, that the Muslims worship
a false god, prove that America is the current domain of the same mental
illness that was the Third Reich and the sickest manifestations of the Roman
Empire. It sounds remarkably like the stuff I was taught in school about the
persecution of early Christians who were beat mercilessly, tortured and
killed if they wouldn't renounce their religion.
The silence (and in some cases expressed support for the atrocities) of the
religious "right", the fundamentalists and spiritual advisors to the Bush
administration and so-called evangelical leaders of the Christians in
America only proves that they are complete hypocrites. Phonies who cannot
lead or consul anyone in a time of such desperate need for moral guidance.
Islam teaches its followers that Jesus was not an ordinary man but was in
fact the son of God. They are the only religion besides Christianity that
observes the divinity of Christ and believes in the Virgin birth. They
rervere Mary as the most exalted and holy of all women. Sure, they have
problems too, mostly stemming from the greed of the people who took over the
institution after Mohamed's death, exactly as "Christianity" suffers from
the incredible atrocities committed throughout history in the name of
Christianity because of greed and power-mad leaders. Anyone who thinks Jesus
would be ok with his brothers being treated badly is just plain stupid.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own
desicions. The people who would commit acts of degredation, humiliation,
rape, torture and murder I believe have a predictable fate. I'm surprised by
the others who don't commit these acts but try to minimize and excuse them,
the vast complicit majority who are the only reason such acts can be
committed. They are the most guilty because they guarantee that such acts
will occur again and again in the name of some seemingly justified cause.
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" < > wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0405210834.4cbe827@posting.google.com...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
news:<aeb81$40ad8977$40762817$25944@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>...
I'm pretty disgusted after reading about the latest pictures coming from
abu garaib prison.
Should be.
If these allegations are true, then I'm sorry to say
that the current White House administration needs to go.
I do not think it is the White House administration's fault. But, as
poli. goes they get the blame, right?
As much as it
pains me to say it, Bush and Rummy are toast.
So are you changing your support? The Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years. You think your supporting of them
will make them stop killing the westerners?
I have a feeling you have been suck in to the left-wing Bush-bashing
and not seen a balanced view. Yes, it's bad, but is not the whole
military, and those involved are getting prison sentences, as well.
Also, I don't think Bush or Rumy said do this either.
What the hell happened to military discipline since 1991? This doesn't
look anything like the military is served.
I see you complain about our military of today. I would suspect you
are making a comparison to the WWII group, like so many others in the
street. If the WWII group was here, those prisoners would be dead and
many Iraqi cities leveled without regard for innocents. Those Iraqi
prisoners are alive, yet the civilians that were killed by the
dragging, the burning and the suspending seem to be OK because you
have not mentioned that this insurgent group in Iraq is worse to our
prisoners - they torture then kill them.
I suspect you are hoodwinked by lefty media. Stop watching the news
and began to read many papers on what is really going on. The TV will
only tell you what the Lefty wants you to know - that America is evil
and must fall.
I also have a feeling that you do not know too much history of how
these problems were treated in the past, because this is not the first
time either.
WASH TIMES: Press can't let abuse story go; Ignores positive
developments...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040520-115221-2362r.htm
Also, WTF is this attack by the GOP powerbase against Sen McCain? McCain
is one of my heros. He's a man with both integrity and honor. I so
fucking disgusted tonight I could scream.
Why is the GOP mad at him?
McCain was mentally damaged in war, and he has a propensity to change
parties, and / or party dialogs. There are good and bad aspects of
this. The bad is that everyone will alienate you form their parties,
and the good side (Perceptibly) is that you can become a mediator and
form a third party ( That is your own charisma - like Clinton)
playing off the two other party's to be the leader. [Sometimes called
a moderate, or Tony Blair's version " the Third Way".]
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: Tony another one of your compulsive fans. |
23 May 2004 04:01:05 PM |
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Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<lifva01skhsnsetkdlcm6h5rq2b9ou5llt@4ax.com>...
On 22 May 2004 12:54:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
"DavidK" <noreply@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<wFsrc.5455
$Ly.595864@attbi_s51>...
Tony here is another one of your compulsive fans (See thread link
below). Also, not much of a posting history to this one - sounds
suspicious though.
Repeat post: See original thread 'Below'
Do you know Dani by any chance? Sure sounds like her politics, her
writing skills, definitely compulsive, and brutal attacks on Tony's
politics, with a different name attached of course, but same area and
ISP ;)
Ah.. what are you on about now, mental?
Your wining Mental. That all you are and your leftist idiot friends.
However, I cannot be sure because I do not know these things.
However, you supplied no historical evidence to back up your
accusation, which amounts to you being nothing but hot-wind.
point: Simply if you do not know history then you cannot argue
anything, which seems to be the case in your response.
Have a nice day.
--Fan Section:--
DavidK
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.20.74.97
X-Complaints-To:
Ah.. these are not the "same" (as you say above) ISP's, mental.
There are the not the same ISPs? Are you saying comcast.net and
comcast.net Are different ISPs?
Are you the mentalist ever retard.
Finally someone of this board that knows less about Computers than me.
Phew!
I have to admit I do not know computers and I see the same ISP and
same first digit two numbers and I think they are coming from the same
location, but not necessarily the same computer.
But I never accused you outright. However, your reflective lie makes
me think either you are as dumb as me on computers or a lying mental
case as the other criminals here who steal others IDs and use computer
trickery to make vile-filthy posts against me. Since you didn’t
defend me than I don’t believe you are against this type of
behavior. It is just you now have had it done to you ( I think - not
for sure) and feeling bad that you have to deal with the fallout, but
you never took others in consideration when it was them.
So Tant pis Mental. ;)
I have no idea who David K is.
Why am I not surprised that you would inadvertently condone what
Tony has done.
Maybe your attacks on me! Ever think about that? Or our you too
mental?
Guess I can't say you're a male chauvinist, sexist pig
though, now can I?
That is what I thought. Live with it then!
Dani:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.128.151.235
X-Complaints-To:
Note: Compulsion of Tony. Lol.
"You are a fool and a danger to all Americans Tony and people like you
will bring about the death of our Democracy, which hangs by a thin
thread at this momnent."
"She said she was ashamed of
America Tony and she deserves to have a strong"
"Tony you make a fool out of yourself and shame all your countymen at
the
same time."
"You're a fool Tony and you should apologize to America and to the
world...
and then grow a heart and maybe even a brain.
"
Source: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:noreply%40comcast.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=E0trc.5422%24ny.1017753%40attbi_s53&rnum=2
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original thread section:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=40af4e72.476241839%40ct-news.iafrica.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.prophecies.nostradamus%26start%3D25
Wow... there is some really sick stuff in this guy's reply. If anyone is
hurting America it's the sick bastards that are trying to rewrite history
for the ill-informed and justify/excuse sadistic acts of torture. He says
"Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years." but it's obvious he has no grasp on
history at all.
See response above and history for confirmation.
In fact it seems that today knowledge of history is
worthless if it doesn't support your particular agenda, like the Republican
Senator who said the US Constitution was "quaint" and irrelevant. Ironically
the same words were used by Enron's lawyer in counseling the Bush Whitehouse
on how to get around the Geneva Convention.
The abuse and torture being committed in Iraq, by Americans, goes every bit
as far as any historical example you'd care to examine. First of all, saying
they are only torturing bad people or trying to change the subject to talk
about some unrelated event is a ***** and totally chickenshit response.
The women, young boys and journalists whose stories we have been told were
not terrorists or murderers. If these people are so bad why did the Red
Cross point out that up to 90% of the "detainees" are law-abiding, innocent
Iraqi citizens? You who would justify or excuse these atrocities bring shame
of a biblical proportion on America.
The latest revelations of force-feeding pork and alcohol to the prisoners,
beating them mercilessly until they renounce their God and their Religion,
and the statements from the ranking General in charge of setting up the
prison "interrogation" techniques, General Boykin, that the Muslims worship
a false god, prove that America is the current domain of the same mental
illness that was the Third Reich and the sickest manifestations of the Roman
Empire. It sounds remarkably like the stuff I was taught in school about the
persecution of early Christians who were beat mercilessly, tortured and
killed if they wouldn't renounce their religion.
The silence (and in some cases expressed support for the atrocities) of the
religious "right", the fundamentalists and spiritual advisors to the Bush
administration and so-called evangelical leaders of the Christians in
America only proves that they are complete hypocrites. Phonies who cannot
lead or consul anyone in a time of such desperate need for moral guidance.
Islam teaches its followers that Jesus was not an ordinary man but was in
fact the son of God. They are the only religion besides Christianity that
observes the divinity of Christ and believes in the Virgin birth. They
rervere Mary as the most exalted and holy of all women. Sure, they have
problems too, mostly stemming from the greed of the people who took over the
institution after Mohamed's death, exactly as "Christianity" suffers from
the incredible atrocities committed throughout history in the name of
Christianity because of greed and power-mad leaders. Anyone who thinks Jesus
would be ok with his brothers being treated badly is just plain stupid.
Ultimately everyone is responsible for their own actions and their own
desicions. The people who would commit acts of degredation, humiliation,
rape, torture and murder I believe have a predictable fate. I'm surprised by
the others who don't commit these acts but try to minimize and excuse them,
the vast complicit majority who are the only reason such acts can be
committed. They are the most guilty because they guarantee that such acts
will occur again and again in the name of some seemingly justified cause.
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" < > wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0405210834.4cbe827@posting.google.com...
"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message
news:<aeb81$40ad8977$40762817$25944@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>...
I'm pretty disgusted after reading about the latest pictures coming from
abu garaib prison.
Should be.
If these allegations are true, then I'm sorry to say
that the current White House administration needs to go.
I do not think it is the White House administration's fault. But, as
poli. goes they get the blame, right?
As much as it
pains me to say it, Bush and Rummy are toast.
So are you changing your support? The Arabs have been battling the
west for many thousands of years. You think your supporting of them
will make them stop killing the westerners?
I have a feeling you have been suck in to the left-wing Bush-bashing
and not seen a balanced view. Yes, it's bad, but is not the whole
military, and those involved are getting prison sentences, as well.
Also, I don't think Bush or Rumy said do this either.
What the hell happened to military discipline since 1991? This doesn't
look anything like the military is served.
I see you complain about our military of today. I would suspect you
are making a comparison to the WWII group, like so many others in the
street. If the WWII group was here, those prisoners would be dead and
many Iraqi cities leveled without regard for innocents. Those Iraqi
prisoners are alive, yet the civilians that were killed by the
dragging, the burning and the suspending seem to be OK because you
have not mentioned that this insurgent group in Iraq is worse to our
prisoners - they torture then kill them.
I suspect you are hoodwinked by lefty media. Stop watching the news
and began to read many papers on what is really going on. The TV will
only tell you what the Lefty wants you to know - that America is evil
and must fall.
I also have a feeling that you do not know too much history of how
these problems were treated in the past, because this is not the first
time either.
WASH TIMES: Press can't let abuse story go; Ignores positive
developments...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040520-115221-2362r.htm
Also, WTF is this attack by the GOP powerbase against Sen McCain? McCain
is one of my heros. He's a man with both integrity and honor. I so
fucking disgusted tonight I could scream.
Why is the GOP mad at him?
McCain was mentally damaged in war, and he has a propensity to change
parties, and / or party dialogs. There are good and bad aspects of
this. The bad is that everyone will alienate you form their parties,
and the good side (Perceptibly) is that you can become a mediator and
form a third party ( That is your own charisma - like Clinton)
playing off the two other party's to be the leader. [Sometimes called
a moderate, or Tony Blair's version " the Third Way".]
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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| Title: Re: Tony another one of your compulsive fans. |
22 May 2004 07:24:42 PM |
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Fresh from an Iraqi prisoner interrogation Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> smirked:
Ah.. what are you on about now, mental?
He probably isn't on anything, I'd bet it's genetic.
To reply by email, remove the XYZ.
Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.
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