http://tinyurl.com/yvrcrw
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Wed May 30, 10:17 PM ET
WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop
presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
the White House said Wednesday.
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31 May 2007 07:51:40 PM |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:11:21 -0500, Perseid wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yvrcrw
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Wed May 30, 10:17 PM ET
WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop
presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
the White House said Wednesday.
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I saw that. Un.real.
Woods
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On May 31, 8:51 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:11:21 -0500, Perseid wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yvrcrw
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Wed May 30, 10:17 PM ET
WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop
presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
the White House said Wednesday.
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I saw that. Un.real.
Woods
"President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop presence in
Iraq similar to the one in
South Korea where American forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for
more than 50 years, the White House said Wednesday."
They didn't say he was envisioning this as he was cracking his second
fifth of Dewars of the night.
Will the troops be stationed on non-permanent bases 50 years from
now? Weren't the neocons and their spin jockeys saying we weren't
going to build permanent bases in Iraq?
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04 Jun 2007 09:23:53 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words
On May 31, 8:51 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:11:21 -0500, Perseid wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yvrcrw
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Wed May 30, 10:17 PM ET
WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop
presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
the White House said Wednesday.
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I saw that. Un.real.
Woods
"President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop presence in
Iraq similar to the one in
South Korea where American forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for
more than 50 years, the White House said Wednesday."
They didn't say he was envisioning this as he was cracking his second
fifth of Dewars of the night.
Will the troops be stationed on non-permanent bases 50 years from
now? Weren't the neocons and their spin jockeys saying we weren't
going to build permanent bases in Iraq?
Recent Congressional spending bill for Iraq not only banned
funding of permanent bases but also outlawed control of Iraqi
oil resources.
SEC. 3301. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by
this or any other Act shall be obligated or expended by the United States
Government for a purpose as follows:
(1) To establish any military installation or base for the purpose of
providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in
Iraq.
(2) To exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/04/time-for-congressional-oversight-
on-permanent-bases-in-iraq/
http://tinyurl.com/yw2mlk
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04 Jun 2007 10:44:54 PM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9945CF8074EBFrrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words
On May 31, 8:51 pm, Woodswun <woods...@tepidmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:11:21 -0500, Perseid wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yvrcrw
Bush sees South Korea model for Iraq
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Wed May 30, 10:17 PM ET
WASHINGTON - President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop
presence in Iraq similar to the one in South Korea where American
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
the White House said Wednesday.
.....
I saw that. Un.real.
Woods
"President Bush envisions a long-term U.S. troop presence in
Iraq similar to the one in
South Korea where American forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for
more than 50 years, the White House said Wednesday."
They didn't say he was envisioning this as he was cracking his second
fifth of Dewars of the night.
Will the troops be stationed on non-permanent bases 50 years from
now? Weren't the neocons and their spin jockeys saying we weren't
going to build permanent bases in Iraq?
Recent Congressional spending bill for Iraq not only banned
funding of permanent bases but also outlawed control of Iraqi
oil resources.
SEC. 3301. None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by
this or any other Act shall be obligated or expended by the United States
Government for a purpose as follows:
(1) To establish any military installation or base for the purpose of
providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in
Iraq.
(2) To exercise United States control over any oil resource of Iraq.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/04/time-for-congressional-oversight-
on-permanent-bases-in-iraq/
http://tinyurl.com/yw2mlk
I don't think this legality matters to the Bush Administration and his
Establishment anymore than the introduction of private armies into Iraq or
no-bid contracts given to Haliburton mattered.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/05/31/BL2007053101144_pf.html
Well, there's no telling what they're going to do. For a number of reasons.
Chief among them being that they've never known what the ***** to do in the
first place. I think they have their own agenda, a rough plan they'll cling
to but have zero competence in terms of making anything work. You'll have
ongoing attempts at establishing control in the Middle East via influence in
Iraq in one form or another that will continue beyond Bush's exit from
office.
It's not "our" country anymore. They think it's theirs. And until "we" rise
up and change the socio/economic and political structure of this country
"the Company" is going to continue it's agenda. And they're going to do
that by leading us by the bullring in our noses. Anyone seen how they've
done that in the past?
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05 Jun 2007 09:53:23 AM |
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On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
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05 Jun 2007 10:32:58 PM |
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Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
You know,
I don't think there's any danger of someone saying
this to you.
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05 Jun 2007 10:27:31 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1181055203.963297.283180@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
It may not seem that long to us yet, Ricky. Many of us are having out eyes
opened to the truth. I'm thinking that during the next election cycle here
it's going to get pretty intense. Especially as we get closer to election
day.
You and Chris and Eric and Marv will probably get a kick out of the
drama/circus. I expect things to get pretty raw as Bush begins to
experience the repudiation that impeachment would have spared him.
Though I'm sure others would like to see Democrats past and present share
Mr. Bush's blame it simply won't work out that way. He led us into this
current mess regardless of what anyone else did or didn't do. No one else
will care who voted how or why some other president bombed Iraq.
I expect Bush to leave office as wild eyed and beaten as Nixon did.
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05 Jun 2007 10:31:02 PM |
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On Jun 5, 8:27 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1181055203.963297.283180@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
It may not seem that long to us yet, Ricky. Many of us are having out eyes
opened to the truth. I'm thinking that during the next election cycle here
it's going to get pretty intense. Especially as we get closer to election
day.
You and Chris and Eric and Marv will probably get a kick out of the
drama/circus. I expect things to get pretty raw as Bush begins to
experience the repudiation that impeachment would have spared him.
Yeah, you also expected impeachment.
Though I'm sure others would like to see Democrats past and present share
Mr. Bush's blame it simply won't work out that way. He led us into this
current mess regardless of what anyone else did or didn't do. No one else
will care who voted how or why some other president bombed Iraq.
I expect Bush to leave office as wild eyed and beaten as Nixon did.
Well, you expected impeachment and didn't get it, so now you expect
this. What else do you expect that won't happen?
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05 Jun 2007 10:43:02 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jun 5, 8:27 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1181055203.963297.283180@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
It may not seem that long to us yet, Ricky. Many of us are having out
eyes
opened to the truth. I'm thinking that during the next election cycle
here
it's going to get pretty intense. Especially as we get closer to
election
day.
You and Chris and Eric and Marv will probably get a kick out of the
drama/circus. I expect things to get pretty raw as Bush begins to
experience the repudiation that impeachment would have spared him.
Yeah, you also expected impeachment.
Though I'm sure others would like to see Democrats past and present
share
Mr. Bush's blame it simply won't work out that way. He led us into
this
current mess regardless of what anyone else did or didn't do. No one
else
will care who voted how or why some other president bombed Iraq.
I expect Bush to leave office as wild eyed and beaten as Nixon did.
Well, you expected impeachment and didn't get it, so now you expect
this. What else do you expect that won't happen?
Leaders with big failures and only a few positive moments are
usually remembered for their failure. The thing is, it's almost
impossible to fail as a US leader since you have so much going
for you going into the job, but somehow Bush managed to screw
the pooch. Even the large majority of Republicans hate his guts.
They're all (except stevie) looking for a face-saving way to
disown the ugly red-headed ***** of a step-child that is Georgie
Bush.
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
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06 Jun 2007 06:23:24 AM |
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9946DCEB640CErrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting to find WMD.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting my troops to be greeted as
liberators and therefore didn't send enough to get the job done.
Pretty horrific results because of the above, eh?
I don't recall expecting impeachment. I recall saying on a number of
occasions that I'd expect it if the people got angry and got behind it.
Besides, Bush's repudiation is a fact. It's already begun. It's going to
continue. It's understood by 70% of the American people. Stevie's clearly
too stupid to grasp simple numbers.
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06 Jun 2007 06:29:54 AM |
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"John Lemke" <jflemke@locallink.net> wrote in message
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"Perseid" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9946DCEB640CErrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting to find WMD.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting my troops to be greeted as
liberators and therefore didn't send enough to get the job done.
Pretty horrific results because of the above, eh?
I don't recall expecting impeachment. I recall saying on a number of
occasions that I'd expect it if the people got angry and got behind it.
Besides, Bush's repudiation is a fact. It's already begun. It's going to
continue. It's understood by 70% of the American people. Stevie's clearly
too stupid to grasp simple numbers.
Ah, yes. then there was the election last fall that swept the Republicans
from control of Congress.
R-E-P-U-D-I-A-T-I-O-N
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06 Jun 2007 08:39:21 AM |
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On Jun 6, 4:29 am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:4666992d@nocnews001.allthesites.org...
"Perseid" <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9946DCEB640CErrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting to find WMD.
I don't know that I went into Iraq expecting my troops to be greeted as
liberators and therefore didn't send enough to get the job done.
Pretty horrific results because of the above, eh?
I don't recall expecting impeachment. I recall saying on a number of
occasions that I'd expect it if the people got angry and got behind it.
Besides, Bush's repudiation is a fact. It's already begun. It's going to
continue. It's understood by 70% of the American people. Stevie's clearly
too stupid to grasp simple numbers.
Ah, yes. then there was the election last fall that swept the Republicans
from control of Congress.
R-E-P-U-D-I-A-T-I-O-N
Yes, two-term presidents almost always experience an election like
that in the sixth year of their presidency.
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05 Jun 2007 10:54:04 PM |
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On Jun 5, 8:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jun 5, 8:27 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1181055203.963297.283180@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
It may not seem that long to us yet, Ricky. Many of us are having out
eyes
opened to the truth. I'm thinking that during the next election cycle
here
it's going to get pretty intense. Especially as we get closer to
election
day.
You and Chris and Eric and Marv will probably get a kick out of the
drama/circus. I expect things to get pretty raw as Bush begins to
experience the repudiation that impeachment would have spared him.
Yeah, you also expected impeachment.
Though I'm sure others would like to see Democrats past and present
share
Mr. Bush's blame it simply won't work out that way. He led us into
this
current mess regardless of what anyone else did or didn't do. No one
else
will care who voted how or why some other president bombed Iraq.
I expect Bush to leave office as wild eyed and beaten as Nixon did.
Well, you expected impeachment and didn't get it, so now you expect
this. What else do you expect that won't happen?
Leaders with big failures and only a few positive moments are
usually remembered for their failure. The thing is, it's almost
impossible to fail as a US leader since you have so much going
for you going into the job, but somehow Bush managed to screw
the pooch. Even the large majority of Republicans hate his guts.
You've made this statement before, and it's just as false now as it
was then.
They're all (except stevie) looking for a face-saving way to
disown the ugly red-headed ***** of a step-child that is Georgie
Bush.
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
You've got it backwards, Randy. Most Republicans still approve of
Bush's job performance, while I don't.
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06 Jun 2007 07:53:30 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jun 5, 8:43 pm, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Jun 5, 8:27 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Werewolfy" <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1181055203.963297.283180@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 5, 4:44?am, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
forces have helped keep an uneasy peace for more than 50 years,
You know, John, this business seems to already have been going on
for
at least 50 years!
Yes, I know, time is deceitful, but it does feel that way!!
Werewolfy
It may not seem that long to us yet, Ricky. Many of us are having
out
eyes
opened to the truth. I'm thinking that during the next election
cycle
here
it's going to get pretty intense. Especially as we get closer to
election
day.
You and Chris and Eric and Marv will probably get a kick out of the
drama/circus. I expect things to get pretty raw as Bush begins to
experience the repudiation that impeachment would have spared him.
Yeah, you also expected impeachment.
Though I'm sure others would like to see Democrats past and present
share
Mr. Bush's blame it simply won't work out that way. He led us into
this
current mess regardless of what anyone else did or didn't do. No
one
else
will care who voted how or why some other president bombed Iraq.
I expect Bush to leave office as wild eyed and beaten as Nixon did.
Well, you expected impeachment and didn't get it, so now you expect
this. What else do you expect that won't happen?
Leaders with big failures and only a few positive moments are
usually remembered for their failure. The thing is, it's almost
impossible to fail as a US leader since you have so much going
for you going into the job, but somehow Bush managed to screw
the pooch. Even the large majority of Republicans hate his guts.
You've made this statement before, and it's just as false now as it
was then.
They're all (except stevie) looking for a face-saving way to
disown the ugly red-headed ***** of a step-child that is Georgie
Bush.
The fact that stevie still likes the man who embodies the 'failure
of intelligence' is really a monument and testament to the magnitude
of stevie's stupidity.
You've got it backwards, Randy. Most Republicans still approve of
Bush's job performance, while I don't.
Oops. Sorry stevie. If I had known I was responding to your post
I would have insulted you with a little more tact. 8>|
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07 Jun 2007 01:54:10 PM |
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:31:02 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
What else do you expect that won't happen?
That you'll eventually grow-up to be a rational, mature adult rather
than a whining, irritating snot-nosed little brat?
...lol.
Dani
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07 Jun 2007 07:10:23 PM |
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On Jun 7, 11:54 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:31:02 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
What else do you expect that won't happen?
That you'll eventually grow-up to be a rational, mature adult rather
than a whining, irritating snot-nosed little brat?
Well, you know, since you've already told me you don't have the
ability to have actual debate with me, I suppose your only two
alternatives are to praise me and tell me how much you respect me --
or to engage in silly, immature personal attacks such as the one
above. Apparently you've chosen the latter. Congratulations.
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11 Jun 2007 07:15:08 PM |
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:10:23 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 7, 11:54 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:31:02 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
What else do you expect that won't happen?
That you'll eventually grow-up to be a rational, mature adult rather
than a whining, irritating snot-nosed little brat?
Well, you know, since you've already told me you don't have the
ability to have actual debate with me,
What I actually said is that I *choose* not to have a political debate
with you. And I also said that you more than likely are better at
History than I am (not my best subject). And I also said that I know
when to pick my battles. But does that mean what you're insinuating
is correct? That I *couldn't* debate you politically if I wanted to?
I wouldn't say so.. I'm sure I could if the desire came over me.
There's a few reasons I won't, though - the top of the list being that
I absolutely do not have anywhere near the endless amount of time that
you seem to have to religiously come back here everyday (sometimes
multiple times a day), to have an ongoing debate.
And I also see absolutely no point in it since neither of us will
change our views.
I suppose your only two
alternatives are to praise me and tell me how much you respect me --
or to engage in silly, immature personal attacks such as the one
above. Apparently you've chosen the latter. Congratulations.
I'd much rather analyze your bizarre behavior (if you've forgotten,
Psychology is my thing) and dissect your persona than have some boring
political debate with you anyday.
Oh and speaking of that - the massive amount of time that you spend
here isn't healthy, Steven. My newsreader shows the times that the
person sends off his/her posts next to every one of their posts.
I can't *believe* you're here so much!
What are you running away from in your REAL life, Steven? See, you've
chosen to spend much (much) more time in your apn life than you are in
your everyday life, so there must be a reason.
Maybe you should take a little break, Steven.. spend a day or two away
from the Internet - or even just away from this group.
Someone who spends the amount of time that you spend here *can't* be
healthy.
Dani
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11 Jun 2007 08:49:11 PM |
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"Dani" <d.b737@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1or63126qdcasu1o93ajikeqbci202pd6@4ax.com...
What are you running away from in your REAL life, Steven? See, you've
chosen to spend much (much) more time in your apn life than you are in
your everyday life, so there must be a reason.
He obviously hasn't been finding the nurture, the success, the ego
gratification he needs in the real world.
Maybe you should take a little break, Steven.. spend a day or two away
from the Internet - or even just away from this group.
I don't think he's capable of doing that anymore.
But it is kind of you to take him under your wing here, darlin'. You're
gonna make a great mom someday.
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11 Jun 2007 09:02:26 PM |
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On Jun 11, 6:49 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Dani" <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What are you running away from in your REAL life, Steven? See, you've
chosen to spend much (much) more time in your apn life than you are in
your everyday life, so there must be a reason.
He obviously hasn't been finding the nurture, the success, the ego
gratification he needs in the real world.
So what's your excuse? You seem to be here every morning, and every
night. And sometimes (like Sunday) all day long. Talk about Pot/Kettle/
Black!
Maybe you should take a little break, Steven.. spend a day or two away
from the Internet - or even just away from this group.
I don't think he's capable of doing that anymore.
What's your excuse?
But it is kind of you to take him under your wing here, darlin'. You're
gonna make a great mom someday.
That's a scary thought -- only a few weeks ago she was praising my
tenacity, and telling me how much she respects me for taking on the
disagreements of several posters at once. Then she went into her
Jekyll and Hyde stage and did a complete 180 -- so I have no further
interest in reading her erratic posting style.
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
14 Jun 2007 07:45:33 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:02:26 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 6:49 pm, "John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
"Dani" <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1or63126qdcasu1o93ajikeqbci202pd6@4ax.com...
What are you running away from in your REAL life, Steven? See, you've
chosen to spend much (much) more time in your apn life than you are in
your everyday life, so there must be a reason.
He obviously hasn't been finding the nurture, the success, the ego
gratification he needs in the real world.
So what's your excuse? You seem to be here every morning, and every
night. And sometimes (like Sunday) all day long. Talk about Pot/Kettle/
Black!
Maybe you should take a little break, Steven.. spend a day or two away
from the Internet - or even just away from this group.
I don't think he's capable of doing that anymore.
What's your excuse?
But it is kind of you to take him under your wing here, darlin'. You're
gonna make a great mom someday.
That's a scary thought -- only a few weeks ago she was praising my
tenacity, and telling me how much she respects me for taking on the
disagreements of several posters at once. Then she went into her
Jekyll and Hyde stage and did a complete 180 -- so I have no further
interest in reading her erratic posting style.
Not quite. I was *initially* wrong about you, Steven. And I only
changed my view of you ONCE - so how could that possibly be erratic?
Don't worry about it...I'm quite sure I'm right about you now so what
you consider "erratic" won't be happening again.
Dani
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
14 Jun 2007 10:54:45 PM |
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Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time, but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
16 Jun 2007 12:05:22 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time, but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
How many times do I have to tell you that my view of you has CHANGED
since I wrote that and I don't respect you anymore?
Sorry, Steven - I saw a different side of you after I wrote that. Get
over it.
Dani
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
16 Jun 2007 10:59:42 AM |
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On Jun 15, 10:05 pm, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time, but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
What, exactly, has changed?
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
17 Jun 2007 08:58:57 AM |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:59:42 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:05 pm, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time, but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
What, exactly, has changed?
Wow, you can't really be serious, can you? I never quite got your
age, Steven - is Alzheimer's an issue with you? Forgive me if the
answer is yes, and/or if you have some other disability that effects
your memory. But if your memory is fine then as I said...you can't
possibly be serious. How many times have I gone over "what changed'
with you already? Too many.
You don't remember when you called a poster here a moron, then another
you called ignorant? And after you called them that, I told you that
I didn't think you were into the personal stuff seeing as you yourself
had just posted to me shortly before that about some of the others
here getting personal with you. And then things just escalated from
there.
If you can't remember all of this, Steven - maybe it's time for a
check-up with your family doc, eh?
Dani
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
18 Jun 2007 03:00:45 AM |
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"Dani" <d.b737@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jfea731niq2669mij23tnqk8da27l1c9bv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:59:42 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:05 pm, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time,
but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal
fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
What, exactly, has changed?
Wow, you can't really be serious, can you? I never quite got your
age, Steven - is Alzheimer's an issue with you? Forgive me if the
answer is yes, and/or if you have some other disability that effects
your memory. But if your memory is fine then as I said...you can't
possibly be serious. How many times have I gone over "what changed'
with you already? Too many.
You don't remember when you called a poster here a moron, then another
you called ignorant? And after you called them that, I told you that
I didn't think you were into the personal stuff seeing as you yourself
had just posted to me shortly before that about some of the others
here getting personal with you. And then things just escalated from
there.
If you can't remember all of this, Steven - maybe it's time for a
check-up with your family doc, eh?
Dani
I think you meant the vet, didn't ya?
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
17 Jun 2007 09:13:55 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Dani <d.b737@yahoo.com> Spat the
Words
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:59:42 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:05 pm, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time,
but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal
fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
What, exactly, has changed?
Wow, you can't really be serious, can you? I never quite got your
age, Steven - is Alzheimer's an issue with you? Forgive me if the
answer is yes, and/or if you have some other disability that effects
your memory. But if your memory is fine then as I said...you can't
possibly be serious. How many times have I gone over "what changed'
with you already? Too many.
You don't remember when you called a poster here a moron, then another
you called ignorant? And after you called them that, I told you that
I didn't think you were into the personal stuff seeing as you yourself
had just posted to me shortly before that about some of the others
here getting personal with you. And then things just escalated from
there.
If you can't remember all of this, Steven - maybe it's time for a
check-up with your family doc, eh?
... except that Stephen's Republican Family Doctor probably suffers from
the same Selective Memory Loss that Stephen does. It's like that whole
Nazi Mass Group-Think problem all over again.
Dani
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
17 Jun 2007 03:00:43 PM |
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On Jun 17, 6:58 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:59:42 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:05 pm, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:54:45 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
.. but I do respect the fact that you're outnumbered here, you're
in the minority, but you don't give up. Normally you're taking on
*five* people at once!
I don't agree with what you write the vast majority of the time, but
it's your tenacity and your ability to stay cool under pressure and
stick to the topic at hand rather than indulge in the personal fights
that I acknowledge about you and respect.
Cheers,
Dani
Thank you, Dani.
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
What, exactly, has changed?
Wow, you can't really be serious, can you? I never quite got your
age, Steven - is Alzheimer's an issue with you? Forgive me if the
answer is yes, and/or if you have some other disability that effects
your memory. But if your memory is fine then as I said...you can't
possibly be serious. How many times have I gone over "what changed'
with you already? Too many.
Yet your more recent posts to me have had nothing to do with your
previous complaint, have they?
You don't remember when you called a poster here a moron, then another
you called ignorant? And after you called them that, I told you that
I didn't think you were into the personal stuff seeing as you yourself
had just posted to me shortly before that about some of the others
here getting personal with you.
I accepted your challenge some time ago. I told you I would no longer
use the terminology that had you so upset, and you replied, "Fair
enough." Maybe "fair enough" is not what you actually meant?
And then things just escalated from there.
The only things that escalated from there were the number of posts
that actually *were* personal attacks, to me, from other posters
(including you).
If you can't remember all of this, Steven - maybe it's time for a
check-up with your family doc, eh?
Thanks for your concern, but I just had a complete physical exam a
little more than a month ago, and I'm in excellent health. Thank God,
I've been blessed with good health.
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
16 Jun 2007 09:40:52 AM |
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On Jun 16, 1:05 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
No, there's nothing physically wrong with Steven's head. There's
something, now blatantly obvious, wrong with Steven's mental state.
Very sad.
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
How many times do I have to tell you that my view of you has CHANGED
since I wrote that and I don't respect you anymore?
I guess that says it for everyone.
Ten days ago in Iraq a local soldier, a special forces airman, was
killed in a roadside bomb explosion. It was supposed to be his last
mission in Iraq. His tour was almost over. He was supposed to be
home in time for his daughter's first birthday party this week.
They ended up burying him instead and that innocent little girl will
never know her father. Another tragedy visiting an innocent child,
marking her for life. Innocent.
It was a group of scumbag liars that took us down this road. They're
all criminals that deserve to be hung and their bodies left out for
buzzards to feast on.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
16 Jun 2007 11:12:28 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, John Lemke
<jflemke@locallink.net> Spat the Words
On Jun 16, 1:05 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Uhm, Steven? Are you feeling okay? Did you fall and hit your head
recently?
No, there's nothing physically wrong with Steven's head. There's
something, now blatantly obvious, wrong with Steven's mental state.
Very sad.
I ask because I wrote the above to you... what, back in April?
And here you are trying to pass it off as if nothing has changed since
I wrote that till now.
How many times do I have to tell you that my view of you has CHANGED
since I wrote that and I don't respect you anymore?
I guess that says it for everyone.
Ten days ago in Iraq a local soldier, a special forces airman, was
killed in a roadside bomb explosion. It was supposed to be his last
mission in Iraq. His tour was almost over. He was supposed to be
home in time for his daughter's first birthday party this week.
They ended up burying him instead and that innocent little girl will
never know her father. Another tragedy visiting an innocent child,
marking her for life. Innocent.
All because GWB is too stupid to know that he's too stupid to run
this country.
It was a group of scumbag liars that took us down this road. They're
all criminals that deserve to be hung and their bodies left out for
buzzards to feast on.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Tony Snow: We're staying in Iraq 50 years |
11 Jun 2007 10:26:21 PM |
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"Dani" <d.b737@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1or63126qdcasu1o93ajikeqbci202pd6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:10:23 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 7, 11:54 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:31:02 -0700, Steven Douglas
<dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
What else do you expect that won't happen?
That you'll eventually grow-up to be a rational, mature adult rather
than a whining, irritating snot-nosed little brat?
Well, you know, since you've already told me you don't have the
ability to have actual debate with me,
What I actually said is that I *choose* not to have a political debate
with you. And I also said that you more than likely are better at
History than I am (not my best subject). And I also said that I know
when to pick my battles. But does that mean what you're insinuating
is correct? That I *couldn't* debate you politically if I wanted to?
I wouldn't say so.. I'm sure I could if the desire came over me.
There's a few reasons I won't, though - the top of the list being that
I absolutely do not have anywhere near the endless amount of time that
you seem to have to religiously come back here everyday (sometimes
multiple times a day), to have an ongoing debate.
And I also see absolutely no point in it since neither of us will
change our views.
I suppose your only two
alternatives are to praise me and tell me how much you respect me --
or to engage in silly, immature personal attacks such as the one
above. Apparently you've chosen the latter. Congratulations.
I'd much rather analyze your bizarre behavior (if you've forgotten,
Psychology is my thing) and dissect your persona than have some boring
political debate with you anyday.
Oh and speaking of that - the massive amount of time that you spend
here isn't healthy, Steven. My newsreader shows the times that the
person sends off his/her posts next to every one of their posts.
I can't *believe* you're here so much!
What are you running away from in your REAL life, Steven? See, you've
chosen to spend much (much) more time in your apn life than you are in
your everyday life, so there must be a reason.
Maybe you should take a little break, Steven.. spend a day or two away
from the Internet - or even just away from this group.
Someone who spends the amount of time that you spend here *can't* be
healthy.
Dani
*gulp* .... LOL ! How sick am I, Dani, do you suppose? heeheehee...
Look, I've known that Stevie's a mentally ill man a long time ago and told
him numerous times that his behaviour smacks of a severe personality
disorder. I don't know what kind of fuckin' mental disorder exactly,
because there are so damned many, obviously. I can only give a few
possibilities, but that really isn't important. I don't need to pinpoint
the problem to know there is a big problem. But, there's no doubt left in
my mind he's got a therapy-level mental illness.
I mean, if he were having the usual relationships offline and getting the
usual benefit from them, he'd be here much less time. It just stands to
reason. The constant denials that he just pops in and out, spends only a
very brief time online, have come intermittently from him for a long time.
When confronted on this issue, each time he accuses me or others of having
no life outside the internet, then denies his frequent presence here and
then comically (but perhaps tragically, too) puts us into a surreality
where we're experiencing some form of hallucination...yep, he thinks we
don't know how to count his posts, nor calculate the time he spent making
'em, nor see his repetitive obsessed behaviour, etc. LOL!
It's just one more sure indication or evidence of a disturbed
personality -- the regular denials, then hypocritical counter-accusations.
I've seen him hang around for a long time, waiting for a reply, and
responding almost immediately...and then getting visibly irritated when he
doesn't get the instant interaction he obviously impatiently awaits with
great anticipation.
I told the poor sucker a long tiem ago that his chronic presence here was
never going to be a transformative experience -- that bantering and
dodging, playing games, scoring lil' debate points, etc. would ever make
him feel wholly good about himself. It's enver been the issues, IMO, for
him -- it's been his personality troubles. The issues could be anything,
really. The REAL issue is his terrible egotism and why he's chosen this
venue to try to keep it pumped up, repaired when damaged (in real life),
etc. What personality issues or deficiencies would drive a person to keep
nitpicking away at such minor points in a conversation? Hmmm? I mean,
really long nitpicking, argumentational dissection, demands for
*documentation*, weaving, dodging, denials, etc. -- you all know his modus
operandi all too well here, like I do.
When you look at the sum total of posts at APN, you see that a HUGE amount
of real estate is taken up concentrating on either (or both) Stevie's
behaviour or the long tedious points of discussion he engages us in. And
he actively seeks to engage, if we don't -- he surely will! He pursues
people from thread to thread when suitably aroused, like a dog in heat.
He says it's all for his *entertainment* and verifies this justification
for his presence here quite often...yep, we're supposed to believe he's a
gifted intellectual just entertaining himself with the lesser intellects
here. We're to imagine he's smirking and spinning on his ergo chair in
glee as he thinks he's popped another liberal's noggin with his
penetrating, superior debate skills and social interactions. LOL!
My impression of the neoconic personality that still stubbornly supports
Bush and his doctrine, strangely conjures up old newsreel footage-type
images of 30's-style Nazi's arrogantly, creepily pie-faced and
glossy-eyed, lost in insane adoration of an insane leadership, and deluded
into thinking a utopia is about to emerge in the world -- which they will
be the founders and center of. I keep getting those strong comparative
images when I see the behaviour, hear the words, see the faces of people
like Ann Coulter, for example. Coulter typifies the neoconic personality
for me -- cold, calculating, power mad, authority crazed, intolerant,
manipulative, lying, immature, impetuous at times, and dangerous like a
deadly cobra. Ol' cobra-eyed Cheney in his bizarre confrontation with Wolf
Blitzer earlier this year, helped cement an image in my mind of the neocon
era we're living in. It may be fading, but these folks are now desperate,
angry, frustrated people. Hence, for example, the recent undue neoconic
glorification of Bush's visit to a *****-ant of a nation, Albania, or to
Bulgaria -- like Stevie, they love pageantry, glory, mass adulation of
their heroes, and have desperately seized on this tiny historical (non)
moment to boast about, slam back at their detractors, help bolster their
disastrously flailing positions politically.
Oh, jeez, it's an ugly scary America these days. Overseas, folks are only
right to be very worried, shocked, and saddened at our behaviour as a
government, and as a people. Many of us here feel the same despair and
fear and disgust. The extreme right fanatics have nearly brought the roof
down on us, and Stevie is but one lil' participant in helping destroy our
house. He's a house wrecker ... and he apparently has no clue!
So sad, so scary...I don't know what future we face, but my intuition
tells me it's a nightmare.
Doc :))~
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