Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:21 a.m. EDT
Kuby: Berger's 9/11 Paper Pilfer No Accident
Noted civil rights attorney and regular defender of the Clinton administration
Ron Kuby said Tuesday that it's hard to believe former National Security
Advisor Sandy Berger took top secret terrorism documents from a 9/11 Commission
reading room by accident.
"Nobody, nobody inadvertently picks up classified information and walks out
with it. It isn't done," Kuby told his WABC Radio partner Curtis Sliwa.
Berger, who now serves as a key adviser to the Kerry-Edwards campaign on
national security issues, told FBI probers that his own "sloppiness" caused him
to begin stuffing his pockets and briefcase with the top secret papers.
But the perpetrator-friendly New York lawyer wasn't buying his excuses.
"You cannot do this accidentally," he told Sliwa. "You can do it arrogantly,
being so used to your top security clearance that you figure the rules don't
apply to you - and I've seen that in Republican and Democratic administrations
alike. But you don't do it accidentally."
Kuby insisted that even if Berger had simply removed the notes he made while
viewing the secret Clinton administration terror documents, it would still be a
crime.
"If you're taking notes about classified information, those notes are now
classified. They're placed in a secure area. You can have access to them only
while being viewed by a security officer. Nothing gets removed."
"It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it in a manner
that potentially compromises it," he said.
Kuby said he learned about the security procedures first hand, when he was
permitted to view classified information during his involvement in the trial of
the first World Trade Center bombers.
"The rules are very strict," he said. "There's somebody monitoring you. The
notes that you take on classified material themselves are deemed to be
classified. You leave everything there."
"You're not permitted to remove anything from that room - period," he
emphasized. "It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it
in a manner that potentially compromises it."
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| User: "Grantland" |
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21 Jul 2004 07:23:46 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote:
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:21 a.m. EDT
Kuby: Berger's 9/11 Paper Pilfer No Accident
Noted civil rights attorney and regular defender of the Clinton administration
Ron Kuby said Tuesday that it's hard to believe former National Security
Advisor Sandy Berger took top secret terrorism documents from a 9/11 Commission
reading room by accident.
"Nobody, nobody inadvertently picks up classified information and walks out
with it. It isn't done," Kuby told his WABC Radio partner Curtis Sliwa.
Berger, who now serves as a key adviser to the Kerry-Edwards campaign on
national security issues, told FBI probers that his own "sloppiness" caused him
to begin stuffing his pockets and briefcase with the top secret papers.
But the perpetrator-friendly New York lawyer wasn't buying his excuses.
"You cannot do this accidentally," he told Sliwa. "You can do it arrogantly,
being so used to your top security clearance that you figure the rules don't
apply to you - and I've seen that in Republican and Democratic administrations
alike. But you don't do it accidentally."
Kuby insisted that even if Berger had simply removed the notes he made while
viewing the secret Clinton administration terror documents, it would still be a
crime.
"If you're taking notes about classified information, those notes are now
classified. They're placed in a secure area. You can have access to them only
while being viewed by a security officer. Nothing gets removed."
"It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it in a manner
that potentially compromises it," he said.
Kuby said he learned about the security procedures first hand, when he was
permitted to view classified information during his involvement in the trial of
the first World Trade Center bombers.
"The rules are very strict," he said. "There's somebody monitoring you. The
notes that you take on classified material themselves are deemed to be
classified. You leave everything there."
"You're not permitted to remove anything from that room - period," he
emphasized. "It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it
in a manner that potentially compromises it."
LOL! Just another treasonous Jew, as are they all, whatever "Party". Why am I not
surprised?
Grantland
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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21 Jul 2004 10:31:43 AM |
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He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a dumb ***** can on gets.
This is like tw, dumber than that, one dies (vegetable brain).
Another fucking traitor.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:21 a.m. EDT
Kuby: Berger's 9/11 Paper Pilfer No Accident
Noted civil rights attorney and regular defender of the Clinton administration
Ron Kuby said Tuesday that it's hard to believe former National Security
Advisor Sandy Berger took top secret terrorism documents from a 9/11 Commission
reading room by accident.
"Nobody, nobody inadvertently picks up classified information and walks out
with it. It isn't done," Kuby told his WABC Radio partner Curtis Sliwa.
Berger, who now serves as a key adviser to the Kerry-Edwards campaign on
national security issues, told FBI probers that his own "sloppiness" caused him
to begin stuffing his pockets and briefcase with the top secret papers.
But the perpetrator-friendly New York lawyer wasn't buying his excuses.
"You cannot do this accidentally," he told Sliwa. "You can do it arrogantly,
being so used to your top security clearance that you figure the rules don't
apply to you - and I've seen that in Republican and Democratic administrations
alike. But you don't do it accidentally."
Kuby insisted that even if Berger had simply removed the notes he made while
viewing the secret Clinton administration terror documents, it would still be a
crime.
"If you're taking notes about classified information, those notes are now
classified. They're placed in a secure area. You can have access to them only
while being viewed by a security officer. Nothing gets removed."
"It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it in a manner
that potentially compromises it," he said.
Kuby said he learned about the security procedures first hand, when he was
permitted to view classified information during his involvement in the trial of
the first World Trade Center bombers.
"The rules are very strict," he said. "There's somebody monitoring you. The
notes that you take on classified material themselves are deemed to be
classified. You leave everything there."
"You're not permitted to remove anything from that room - period," he
emphasized. "It's a crime to remove classified information or to deal with it
in a manner that potentially compromises it."
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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22 Jul 2004 04:44:39 AM |
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Jean Guernon
wrote:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a >dumb ***** can on gets.
This is like tw, dumber than that, one >dies (vegetable brain).
Another fucking traitor.
Yep, a traitor working under orders from Bill Clinton.
Tony
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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22 Jul 2004 11:53:55 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20040722054439.19503.00001986@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Jean Guernon
wrote:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a >dumb ***** can on gets.
This is like tw, dumber than that, one >dies (vegetable brain).
Another fucking traitor.
Yep, a traitor working under orders from Bill Clinton.
- My sentiments as well.
Tony
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| User: "Dr. Blunt" |
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23 Jul 2004 08:58:02 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0407220853.7784bd47@posting.google.com...
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote in message
news:<20040722054439.19503.00001986@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Jean Guernon
wrote:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in
under
his underwear!!! How much more of a >dumb ***** can on gets.
This is like tw, dumber than that, one >dies (vegetable brain).
Another fucking traitor.
Yep, a traitor working under orders from Bill Clinton.
- My sentiments as well.
Tony
That unidentified witness to the alleged stuffing under the clothes is
being investigated by the FBI/Justice Dept., as are all other aspects of
this media report. Nothing has been nailed down as to Berger's contention
it was an honest mistake or deliberate. If you want to try 'em in the
media, then fry 'em, you support vigilantism and not due process.
Since it comes so perfectly timed just before the 9/11 Report and before
the Democratic Convention, I'm sure people are looking into the odd
coincidence of the timing politically, as well as scrutinizing any witness
for possible political motivation.
Do you want to go back to the other election year media orgasms say,
maybe, the Niger uranium - Iraq connection stories, or is this one gettin'
you neocon knuckledraggers' dicks off for now?
LOL...wait till next month just before the Republican Convention. No
noticeable change in the pollls in Kerry's popularity from this incident.
The public's apparently not thrashing the flora like you two apes.
Dr. Blunt ---------------------------------------------
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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24 Jul 2004 12:53:42 AM |
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Dr. Blunt a écrit:
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0407220853.7784bd47@posting.google.com...
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote in message
news:<20040722054439.19503.00001986@mb-m17.aol.com>...
Jean Guernon
wrote:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in
under
his underwear!!! How much more of a >dumb ***** can on gets.
This is like tw, dumber than that, one >dies (vegetable brain).
Another fucking traitor.
Yep, a traitor working under orders from Bill Clinton.
- My sentiments as well.
Tony
That unidentified witness to the alleged stuffing under the clothes is
being investigated by the FBI/Justice Dept., as are all other aspects of
this media report. Nothing has been nailed down as to Berger's contention
it was an honest mistake or deliberate. If you want to try 'em in the
media, then fry 'em, you support vigilantism and not due process.
Since it comes so perfectly timed just before the 9/11 Report and before
the Democratic Convention, I'm sure people are looking into the odd
coincidence of the timing politically, as well as scrutinizing any witness
for possible political motivation.
Do you want to go back to the other election year media orgasms say,
maybe, the Niger uranium
True according to the Buttler report
- Iraq connection stories,
True according to the 9-11 report
or is this one gettin'
you neocon knuckledraggers' dicks off for now?
You have to do better. LOL
The election won't be loss on your neo-libs lies.
LOL...wait till next month just before the Republican Convention. No
noticeable change in the pollls in Kerry's popularity from this incident.
The public's apparently not thrashing the flora like you two apes.
Dr. Blunt ---------------------------------------------
The public may vote on your herewith proven lies, but it would be their
loss.
J.
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| User: "AK" |
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24 Jul 2004 05:20:59 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 05:53:42 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
- Iraq connection stories,
True according to the 9-11 report
The 9/11 reports says (1) there was no Iraqi link to 9/11, and (2) there were no
operational links between Al Queda and Sadam.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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24 Jul 2004 06:45:18 PM |
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AK <someoneNasty@hotmails.com> wrote in message news:<dv74g0p8669qh5uhcsrftem3io4hn8n95u@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 05:53:42 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
- Iraq connection stories,
True according to the 9-11 report
The 9/11 reports says (1) there was no Iraqi link to 9/11, and (2) there were no
operational links between Al Queda and Sadam.
That doesn't mean ***** especially to a lefty criminal, terrorist
supporter like you ;)
The 9/11 implies that intelligence was so bad that it was useless to
find the truth. What that means idiot, is that they will never know.
All that they really know is that : Sept. 11 commission's final report
cites al-Qaida contacts with Iran and Iraq ;)
But you are too stupid to understand this and have to resort to
criminal activities.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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01 Aug 2004 03:47:15 AM |
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AK a écrit:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 05:53:42 GMT, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
wrote:
- Iraq connection stories,
True according to the 9-11 report
The 9/11 reports says (1) there was no Iraqi link to 9/11, and (2) there were no
operational links between Al Queda and Sadam.
1. We knew a long time ago that Binny organized t9-11 by himself, this
is not new, his team didn't even know until the day it happened, he was
not going top tell his allies, besides, he said it himself in his tape.
http://www.michelnostradamus.org/multimedia/osamatape.rm
2. the 9-11 report is very clear as to the link between saddam and
AlQaeda, and they say that you are a liar, and/or an idiot.
I'll bet you are prouder to be the former.
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/US/resources/9.11.report/911Report_Ch2.pdf
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Bin Ladin had in fact been sponsoring anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi
Kurdistan, and sought to attract them into his Islamic army.53
To protect his own ties with Iraq,Turabi reportedly brokered an
agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against
Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time,
although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in
part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad’s control. In the late
1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces.
In 2001, with Bin Ladin’s help they re-formed into an organization
called Ansar al Islam.There are indications that by then the Iraqi
regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the
common Kurdish enemy.54
With the Sudanese regime acting as intermediary, Bin Ladin himself met
with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or
early 1995.
Bin Ladin is said to have asked for space to establish training camps,
as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but there is no evidence
that Iraq responded to this request.55 As described below, the ensuing
years saw additional efforts to establish connections.
(...)
There is also evidence that around this time Bin Ladin sent out a number
of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation. None are
reported to have received a significant response.According to one
report, Saddam Hussein’s efforts at this time to rebuild relations with
the Saudis and other Middle Eastern regimes led him to stay clear of Bin
Ladin.74
In mid-1998, the situation reversed; it was Iraq that reportedly took
the initiative.
In March 1998, after Bin Ladin’s public fatwa against the United States,
two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraqi
intelligence.
In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with
the Taliban and then with Bin Ladin. Sources reported that one, or
perhaps both, of these meetings was apparently arranged through Bin
Ladin’s Egyptian deputy, Zawahiri, who had ties of his own to the
Iraqis. In 1998, Iraq was under intensifying U.S. pressure, which
culminated in a series of large air attacks in December.75
Similar meetings between Iraqi officials and Bin Ladin or his aides may
have occurred in 1999 during a period of some reported strains with the
Taliban. According to the reporting, Iraqi officials offered Bin Ladin a
safe haven in Iraq. Bin Ladin declined, apparently judging that his
circumstances in Afghanistan remained more favorable than the Iraqi
alternative. The reports describe friendly contacts and indicate some
common themes in both sides’ hatred of the United States. But to date we
have seen no evidence that these or the earlier contacts ever developed
into a collaborative operational relationship. Nor have we seen evidence
indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing or carrying
out any attacks against the United States.76
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J.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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21 Jul 2004 07:36:42 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:31:43 GMT, Jean Guernon overjoyed me with this news:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a dumb ***** can on gets.
Hard to say with the neocons in my NG here constantly pushing the envelope.
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21 Jul 2004 10:40:12 PM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:31:43 GMT, Jean Guernon overjoyed me with this news:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a dumb ***** can on gets.
Hard to say with the neocons in my NG here constantly pushing the envelope.
The worst is that he thinks that by giving the reasons for his act, he
feels it is a justification.
But since I have heard that maybe he is not really as wicked as this
makes him look like...
The thing is that they pick on insignificant details, disregard the big
picture, they would have done exactly the same things, including the
mistakes, if they had been at their place, but for electoral purposes
they go to illegal lengths to discredit their peers instead of looking
at what really could has been done. They don't want to know what could
prove to be the best humanly possible, they want to see blood. And they
cheat to get it. It is not for nothing that these things are classified.
It is not for political reasons if you wonder. Anyway.
J.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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21 Jul 2004 11:13:30 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 03:40:12 GMT, Jean Guernon overjoyed me with this news:
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:31:43 GMT, Jean Guernon overjoyed me with this news:
He said "oups I accidentally took them". The guy hid them down in under
his underwear!!! How much more of a dumb ***** can on gets.
Hard to say with the neocons in my NG here constantly pushing the envelope.
The worst is that he thinks that by giving the reasons for his act, he
feels it is a justification.
But since I have heard that maybe he is not really as wicked as this
makes him look like...
The thing is that they pick on insignificant details, disregard the big
picture, they would have done exactly the same things, including the
mistakes, if they had been at their place, but for electoral purposes
they go to illegal lengths to discredit their peers instead of looking
at what really could has been done. They don't want to know what could
prove to be the best humanly possible, they want to see blood. And they
cheat to get it. It is not for nothing that these things are classified.
It is not for political reasons if you wonder. Anyway.
J.
Yep ... the American political process is run by a bunch of cheap whores
caught in a life-or-death cat fight.
Finally! We agree ... lets do beers!!
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