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Date: 02 Dec 2005 10:55:09 PM
Object: TOTAL WAR 2006
Last update - 01:28 03/12/2005
Israel test-fires Arrow missile as Iran nuclear threat looms
By Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and Reuters
Israel carried out a successful test of its Arrow anti-missile system
Friday morning, which Defense Ministry officials called a response to
the increasing threat of ballistic missiles in the region.
The test launch came as a Russian newspaper reported that Iran has
signed a deal to buy Russian tactical surface-to-air missile systems.
The reports comes one day after Prime Minister Ariel Sharon warned of
the dangers of a nuclear Iran.
"The success of the test will improve the operational capabilities that
already exist today in the Arrow system, which will be able to
successfully cope with future threats," said Defense Ministry director
general Yaakov Toran.
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The simulated enemy missile used in the test resembles the Iranian
Shahab-3 and is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. The test enemy
missile was fired from an airplane over the Mediterranean Sea, from the
west. The Arrow anti-missile missile was fired at 10:28 A.M. from an
Israel Air Force base in the center of the country, and hit the target.
Friday's test is the 14th test of the Arrow system, which is being
developed with the United States, and the ninth test of the missile
itself.
Foreign Ministry condemns missile deal with Tehran
Also Friday the Foreign Ministry condemned an agreement reported by a
Russian newspaper on a missile transaction between Moscow and Iran.
"The regime in Iran is extreme, supports radical terrorist groups and
has articulated only recently its opposition to peace and
reconciliation in the Middle East," spokesman Mark Regev said.
"When a country hopes to strengthen the military potential of Iran,
they are serving to strengthen the most negative elements in the
region," he added.
The Russian Vedomosti daily reported Friday that Iran is to buy 29
TOR-M1 systems, designed to bring down aircraft and guided missiles at
low altitudes, citing Russian defense sources close to the deal.
The deal is the biggest sale of Russian defense hardware to Iran for
about five years, the newspaper said. It did not say how much the order
was worth.
Russian defense industry officials could not immediately be reached for
comment.
The United States said Friday it was looking into reports that Russia
and Iran had signed an agreement for Russia to provide Tor M-1 air
defense systems to Iran.
The newspaper cited an unidentified manager at a military-industrial
enterprise.
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said "we are at this point
evaluating these reports" and that he could not validate them.
Tehran is under intense international pressure after failing to
convince the United States and others its nuclear scientists are
working on fuel for power stations rather than bombs.
Russia is helping Iran build a nuclear power station at Bushehr.
Sharon: A nuclear Iran endangers many countries
Sharon said Thursday that Israel is watching with growing concern
Iran's efforts to achieve nuclear capabilities, and that Israel cannot
accept the current situation.
However, Sharon added that "Israel is not spearheading the
international struggle against Iran's nuclear arming," although he said
it is working with the countries that are at the forefront.
The danger posed by Iran "does not relate only to Israel," Sharon told
the editors convention at Sokolov House in Tel Aviv. "It puts at risk
Israel, Middle Eastern countries and many other countries around the
world. Therefore the efforts led by the U.S. today must include free
countries that understand this grave danger."
Earlier this week, Military Intelligence chief Major General Aharon
Ze'evi (Farkash) said diplomacy would have failed if Iran was still
working on producing nuclear weapons by March.
"If by the end of March 2006, the international community does not
manage to use diplomatic means to block Iran's effort to produce a
nuclear bomb, there will no longer be any reason to continue diplomatic
activity in this field, and it will be possible to say that the
international attempts to thwart [Iran's efforts] have failed," Ze'evi
told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.
Several MKs said they thought Ze'evi was saying military efforts would
become necessary by April.
"The comments by the head of Military Intelligence convey a harsh,
worrying and dark picture," said committee chairman MK Yuval Steinitz
(Likud). "Iran is going to become a nuclear power in the region and the
world is helpless."

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User: ""

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 02 Dec 2005 11:54:04 PM
"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE" *WROTE*:
*FOR* "YOUR" *SAKE* "UNCLE" *WALLY* "THERE" *BETTER* "NOT" *BE* "AN"
*ALL* "OUT" *WAR* "DOWN" *HERE* "IN" *2006* "AS" *THE* "GENTILES"
*HAVE* "NO" *ESTABLISHED* "COVENANT" *WITH* "GOD" *AND* "THE"
*GENTILES* "WILL" *DESTROY* "MANY" *LIVES* "IF" *GOD* "HAS" *TO* "COME"
*DOWN* "HERE" *AND* "ADDRESS" *THIS* "SITUATION"!!!
*LET* "THERE" *BE* "NO" *DOUBT*...
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature
the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law
unto themselves:
*IF* "THE" *GENTILES* "ARE" *NOT* "CAREFUL" *THEY* "COULD" *END* "UP"
*GETTING* "ALL" *THESE* "PEOPLE" *KILLED* "AND" *DESTROYED* "BECAUSE"
*THEY* "HAVE" *LIED* "THRU" *THEIR* "TEETH" *FOR* "YEARS" *AND* "NOW"
*THEY* "ARE" *FACED" *WITH* "CERTAIN" *DESTRUCTION* "IF" *THEY* "DO"
*NOT* "GET" *AN* "ESTABLISHED" *AGREEMENT* "WITH" *GOD* "TO" *FOLLOW*
"THE" *LAWS*!!!
"YOU" *AND* "MANY" *OTHER* "PEOPLE" *HAVE* "SCOFFED" *AND* "SCORNED"
*ME* "FOR" *BEING* "OBJECTIONABLE" *WITH* "YOUR" *LIVES* "YET" *I*
"KNOW" *THE* "GENTILES" *TO* "BE" *GOING* "TO" *THE* "PITS" *WHEN*
"THEY" *DEPART* "THE" *EARTH* "AND *NOT* "INTO* "HEAVEN" *AS* "THEY"
*MUST* "HAVE" *A* "REPRESENTATIVE" *TO* "THEIR" *SINS* "BE" *ATONED*
"FOR" *TO* "GOD"!!!
"HAVE" *A* "NICE" *DAY*...
"THEE" *ELECT* "ONE"
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User: "The Other Guy"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 03 Dec 2005 02:33:32 AM
Not sure if it will be "Total War" in 2006, but I (personally) wouldn't be surprised it the
"Second Shoe Drops" sometime in the middle of that year.
Canada could elect a 'moron' in January and the Dutch could finally give 'The Big Middle
Finger' to the U.N. leaving them without a 'neutral' Peacekeeping Force. That would pretty
much "Let Loose The Dogs Of War" and there would be no one left to mind the kennels !!!
Just A Thought.
:-(]
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User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 03 Dec 2005 06:49:54 AM
The Other Guy wrote on 2005.12.03 3:33 AM:

Canada could elect a 'moron' in January

No matter who we vote for, the government will still get in.
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User: "The Other Guy"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 03 Dec 2005 10:57:44 PM
Its not who we vote-in in the next election, its how capable this person is to work with Nato
(and maintain Canada's Peacekeeper Status).
:-(]
"Half-Mad" wrote in message

The Other Guy wrote on 2005.12.03 3:33 AM:
Canada could elect a 'moron' in January

No matter who we vote for, the government will still get in.

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User: "Half-Mad"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 02:10:04 AM
I just hope that whoever gets in backs out of NAFTA.
I suspect that the NDP are the only party that is at all likely to do
that. And I also rather doubt that they will get in... unless everybody
decides they are fed up with both Liberal and Conservative parties, as I am.
Go NDP! You don't have a chance in hell, but you're better than the
alternatives.
The Other Guy wrote on 2005.12.03 11:57 PM:

Its not who we vote-in in the next election, its how capable this person is to work with Nato
(and maintain Canada's Peacekeeper Status).

:-(]


"Half-Mad" wrote in message


The Other Guy wrote on 2005.12.03 3:33 AM:
Canada could elect a 'moron' in January



No matter who we vote for, the government will still get in.




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User: "The Other Guy"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 04:33:48 AM
You know (as well as I know) the next Party to be elected in Canada will be either Liberal or
Conservative (it TRULY is nice to see Layton finally have the 'Gonads' to make him an
"Honourably Opposition") but it grew on him too late !!!
As someone that had to live thru those 'Wannabee Mayor of Toronto' years of Layton's 'growth',
it took me a few years to finally see that he has grown beyond that Phase !!!
He may have 'evolved' beyond Harper as a 'capable' favourite for Southern Ontario (and
southern British Columbia), but he is still a long way off as Prime Minister potential for
Canada.
The 'Major' mistake would be for "Fence Sitters" to give their vote to Layton just because
they want to bring down the 'Martin' Government over mistakes made by the "Chretien Regime".
Hargrove was right in 'Backing' the Liberals. Layton's NDP is still Too Green, and Harper's
Conservatives have not yet 'abandoned the "Win At All Costs" attitude' (which translates to: -
lie at all 'costs' - just so I can be Prime Minister.)
Another Conservative (in recent years) 'Promised The World" for his election, and all we got
for that was [U.S. "Controlled"] 'Free Trade'. (Thanks for nothing Mr.Mulroney !!! )
Serious Thoughts.
:- |]
PS: Imagine if Harper, the Guy that thought joining the U.S. 'Invasion' of Iraq was Canada's
"calling" had been Prime Minister at the time.
How many Canadian Soldiers would be 'Pushing Up Daisies" now through 'Insurgents' (and
American "Friendly Fire") right about now ???
Again, Just A Thought.
:-(]
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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 06:54:46 AM
"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:Pyzkf.23$kt5.1320@news20.bellglobal.com...

You know (as well as I know) the next Party to be elected in Canada will
be either Liberal or
Conservative (it TRULY is nice to see Layton finally have the 'Gonads' to
make him an
"Honourably Opposition") but it grew on him too late !!!

As someone that had to live thru those 'Wannabee Mayor of Toronto' years
of Layton's 'growth',
it took me a few years to finally see that he has grown beyond that Phase
!!!

He may have 'evolved' beyond Harper as a 'capable' favourite for Southern
Ontario (and
southern British Columbia), but he is still a long way off as Prime
Minister potential for
Canada.

The 'Major' mistake would be for "Fence Sitters" to give their vote to
Layton just because
they want to bring down the 'Martin' Government over mistakes made by the
"Chretien Regime".

Hargrove was right in 'Backing' the Liberals. Layton's NDP is still Too
Green, and Harper's
Conservatives have not yet 'abandoned the "Win At All Costs" attitude'
(which translates to: -
lie at all 'costs' - just so I can be Prime Minister.)

Another Conservative (in recent years) 'Promised The World" for his
election, and all we got
for that was [U.S. "Controlled"] 'Free Trade'. (Thanks for nothing
Mr.Mulroney !!! )

Are you serious??? NAFTA has been far better for Canada than it has been
for the US, especially with our dollar so low these past years. The
softwood lumber problem is because the Americans are IGNORING NAFTA on this
particular issue.
Do you think Toyota would have chosen Ontario for its next plant over the
southern US if NAFTA hadn't been in place?
Jane


Serious Thoughts.

:- |]

PS: Imagine if Harper, the Guy that thought joining the U.S. 'Invasion' of
Iraq was Canada's
"calling" had been Prime Minister at the time.

How many Canadian Soldiers would be 'Pushing Up Daisies" now through
'Insurgents' (and
American "Friendly Fire") right about now ???

Again, Just A Thought.

:-(]


.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 07:27:21 AM
Jane wrote:

"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:Pyzkf.23$kt5.1320@news20.bellglobal.com...

You know (as well as I know) the next Party to be elected in Canada will
be either Liberal or
Conservative (it TRULY is nice to see Layton finally have the 'Gonads' to
make him an
"Honourably Opposition") but it grew on him too late !!!

As someone that had to live thru those 'Wannabee Mayor of Toronto' years
of Layton's 'growth',
it took me a few years to finally see that he has grown beyond that Phase
!!!

He may have 'evolved' beyond Harper as a 'capable' favourite for Southern
Ontario (and
southern British Columbia), but he is still a long way off as Prime
Minister potential for
Canada.

The 'Major' mistake would be for "Fence Sitters" to give their vote to
Layton just because
they want to bring down the 'Martin' Government over mistakes made by the
"Chretien Regime".

Hargrove was right in 'Backing' the Liberals. Layton's NDP is still Too
Green, and Harper's
Conservatives have not yet 'abandoned the "Win At All Costs" attitude'
(which translates to: -
lie at all 'costs' - just so I can be Prime Minister.)

Another Conservative (in recent years) 'Promised The World" for his
election, and all we got
for that was [U.S. "Controlled"] 'Free Trade'. (Thanks for nothing
Mr.Mulroney !!! )



Are you serious??? NAFTA has been far better for Canada than it has been
for the US, especially with our dollar so low these past years. The
softwood lumber problem is because the Americans are IGNORING NAFTA on this
particular issue.

Do you think Toyota would have chosen Ontario for its next plant over the
southern US if NAFTA hadn't been in place?

Jane

I thought cars had been getting special dispensation for years, which is
why GM put plants there in the first place (years before NAFTA)?
Woods


Serious Thoughts.

:- |]

PS: Imagine if Harper, the Guy that thought joining the U.S. 'Invasion' of
Iraq was Canada's
"calling" had been Prime Minister at the time.

How many Canadian Soldiers would be 'Pushing Up Daisies" now through
'Insurgents' (and
American "Friendly Fire") right about now ???

Again, Just A Thought.

:-(]





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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 08:30:07 AM
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:Z8Ckf.61081$uC3.2777@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Jane wrote:

"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:Pyzkf.23$kt5.1320@news20.bellglobal.com...

You know (as well as I know) the next Party to be elected in Canada will
be either Liberal or
Conservative (it TRULY is nice to see Layton finally have the 'Gonads' to
make him an
"Honourably Opposition") but it grew on him too late !!!

As someone that had to live thru those 'Wannabee Mayor of Toronto' years
of Layton's 'growth',
it took me a few years to finally see that he has grown beyond that Phase
!!!

He may have 'evolved' beyond Harper as a 'capable' favourite for Southern
Ontario (and
southern British Columbia), but he is still a long way off as Prime
Minister potential for
Canada.

The 'Major' mistake would be for "Fence Sitters" to give their vote to
Layton just because
they want to bring down the 'Martin' Government over mistakes made by the
"Chretien Regime".

Hargrove was right in 'Backing' the Liberals. Layton's NDP is still Too
Green, and Harper's
Conservatives have not yet 'abandoned the "Win At All Costs" attitude'
(which translates to: -
lie at all 'costs' - just so I can be Prime Minister.)

Another Conservative (in recent years) 'Promised The World" for his
election, and all we got
for that was [U.S. "Controlled"] 'Free Trade'. (Thanks for nothing
Mr.Mulroney !!! )



Are you serious??? NAFTA has been far better for Canada than it has been
for the US, especially with our dollar so low these past years. The
softwood lumber problem is because the Americans are IGNORING NAFTA on
this particular issue.

Do you think Toyota would have chosen Ontario for its next plant over the
southern US if NAFTA hadn't been in place?

Jane


I thought cars had been getting special dispensation for years, which is
why GM put plants there in the first place (years before NAFTA)?

Yes, and I was the one that told you about it, :). The Autopact of 1965.
(Mind you, GM has been in Canada for 100 years as of 2008. I remember we
got a 75th anniversary book in'83) However, it did not apply to Japanese
makers, hence their complaint to the WTO...
Anyway, the Autopact IS a free trade agreement, like NAFTA. My point was
that Canada and Mexico have benefited more from free trade than the US has.
Canada because of our low dollar and healthcare, Mexico because of its low
wages and low environmental standards.
Because the softwood lumber dispute is in the news so much up here, folks
assume that everything about NAFTA is bad. (Not to mention that everyone
loves to hate Mulroney)
Jane


Woods


Serious Thoughts.

:- |]

PS: Imagine if Harper, the Guy that thought joining the U.S. 'Invasion'
of Iraq was Canada's
"calling" had been Prime Minister at the time.

How many Canadian Soldiers would be 'Pushing Up Daisies" now through
'Insurgents' (and
American "Friendly Fire") right about now ???

Again, Just A Thought.

:-(]




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User: "Binder Dundat"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 05 Dec 2005 10:09:13 PM

Because the softwood lumber dispute is in the news so much up here, folks
assume that everything about NAFTA is bad. (Not to mention that everyone
loves to hate Mulroney)

Jane

It's obvious that you have never read Stevie Cameron's book 'On The Take' an
expose' of Brian Mulroney's government. The most corrupt bunch of scum to
ever govern Canada. Not one statement made in that book which named names
amounts of bribes and extortions etc, has never been challenged in a court
of law. They obviously felt it was better to let it pass than to have the
added publicity of a court case and lawsuit. I am personally ashamed that I
voted for the ***** in two elections and once shook the mother
f*ckers hand at a campaign rally. I am cured of the Conservative Party and
had hoped that it would be wiped out permanently.
Since Canada ceases to exist outside of the borders of Ontario it would
stand to reason that NAFTA is good. Even if it cost some 14,000 jobs in the
last ten years in the forest industry in BC and has laid to waste many one
industry small towns that were solely dependant on it. With ford and GM's
plant closings and lay off's coming down the pipe I hope that Ontario get a
generous taste of what BC has gone through for the last ten years.
Regards,
Binder
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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 06 Dec 2005 03:38:21 AM
"Binder Dundat" <bdundat@lostmail.com> wrote in message
news:J98lf.54448$Gd6.41922@pd7tw3no...



Because the softwood lumber dispute is in the news so much up here, folks
assume that everything about NAFTA is bad. (Not to mention that everyone
loves to hate Mulroney)

Jane


It's obvious that you have never read Stevie Cameron's book 'On The Take'
an expose' of Brian Mulroney's government.

Why would I? The excerpts were enough.
Don't believe everything you read.
The most corrupt bunch of scum to

ever govern Canada. Not one statement made in that book which named names
amounts of bribes and extortions etc, has never been challenged in a court
of law. They obviously felt it was better to let it pass than to have the
added publicity of a court case and lawsuit. I am personally ashamed that
I voted for the ***** in two elections and once shook the mother
f*ckers hand at a campaign rally. I am cured of the Conservative Party
and had hoped that it would be wiped out permanently.

The Liberals are soooo much better! Tell me why Cretin oops Chretien is not
in jail.


Since Canada ceases to exist outside of the borders of Ontario it would
stand to reason that NAFTA is good. Even if it cost some 14,000 jobs in
the last ten years in the forest industry in BC and has laid to waste many
one industry small towns that were solely dependant on it. With ford and
GM's plant closings and lay off's coming down the pipe I hope that Ontario
get a generous taste of what BC has gone through for the last ten years.
Regards,

Why the salutation? You don't mean it.

Binder


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User: "The Other Guy"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 08 Dec 2005 12:46:30 AM
'Jane' I can't believe you are still going on about NAFTA.
Whether you like "Free Trade" or "Not" - we are on the 'verge' of World War III (and in two
years, who will care about NAFTA (unless it means 'cut-rate' prices on U.S. Missiles) !!!
As soon as Canada (under Harper) withdraws from Nato (as a 'Peackeeper' Force) so will The
Netherlands.
There will be no one left to play "Linesmen" between the "Super Powers". - do you know what
that MEANS ???
If 'Martin" is not re-elected, you might as well take the 'Osterag Stance' right now. - "Put
You Head Between You Legs, And Kiss Your ***** 'Goodbye' !!!'"
Just A Very Serious Thought.
:-(]
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User: "Jane"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 08 Dec 2005 03:37:15 AM
"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:rBQlf.8556$kt5.608649@news20.bellglobal.com...

'Jane' I can't believe you are still going on about NAFTA.

Whether you like "Free Trade" or "Not" - we are on the 'verge' of World
War III (and in two
years, who will care about NAFTA (unless it means 'cut-rate' prices on
U.S. Missiles) !!!

As soon as Canada (under Harper) withdraws from Nato (as a 'Peackeeper'
Force) so will The
Netherlands.

There will be no one left to play "Linesmen" between the "Super Powers". -
do you know what
that MEANS ???


If 'Martin" is not re-elected, you might as well take the 'Osterag Stance'
right now. - "Put
You Head Between You Legs, And Kiss Your ***** 'Goodbye' !!!'"

Others were going on about Nafta; I was just adding my 2 cents.
I've said before that I believe WWIII started Sept 11, 2001. Haven't
changed my mind on that...but we won't know for sure until we look back.
I also have my worries re the peak oil situation...however, in the meantime,
life does go on.
BTW, we haven't really been a leader in peacekeeping in many years and we
will not withdraw from NATO, under Harper or anyone else.
Jane



Just A Very Serious Thought.

:-(]


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User: "RAY S. ELIZONDO"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 11 Dec 2005 09:38:01 PM
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:89Tlf.8567$kt5.610784@news20.bellglobal.com...


"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:rBQlf.8556$kt5.608649@news20.bellglobal.com...

'Jane' I can't believe you are still going on about NAFTA.

Whether you like "Free Trade" or "Not" - we are on the 'verge' of World
War III (and in two
years, who will care about NAFTA (unless it means 'cut-rate' prices on
U.S. Missiles) !!!

As soon as Canada (under Harper) withdraws from Nato (as a 'Peackeeper'
Force) so will The
Netherlands.

There will be no one left to play "Linesmen" between the "Super
Powers". - do you know what
that MEANS ???


If 'Martin" is not re-elected, you might as well take the 'Osterag
Stance' right now. - "Put
You Head Between You Legs, And Kiss Your ***** 'Goodbye' !!!'"


Others were going on about Nafta; I was just adding my 2 cents.

I've said before that I believe WWIII started Sept 11, 2001. Haven't
changed my mind on that...but we won't know for sure until we look back.

I also have my worries re the peak oil situation...however, in the
meantime, life does go on.

{
Just wait until the US Armies, start fighting a real enemy army, with tanks,
planes, etc. just like in WWII, right now is only an Army against civilians,
exploding themselves, (which the US is not used to)
That is why the WAR in Iraq will never end, just like Isreal and Palestine.


BTW, we haven't really been a leader in peacekeeping in many years and we
will not withdraw from NATO, under Harper or anyone else.

Jane



Just A Very Serious Thought.

:-(]





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User: "The CO"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 12 Dec 2005 11:28:46 AM
RAY S. ELIZONDO wrote:

Just wait until the US Armies, start fighting a real enemy army, with tanks,
planes, etc.

Disregarding the politics for the time being, let's consider the
mechanics of this shall we.
Actually, the US already have. I expect the Iranians would fight harder
and probably better but the end result would very likely be
the same as happened to Saddams much vaunted armies. God fights on the
side of the best gunnery.

just like in WWII,

Mmmm, no. Not going to happen. You are going to have high tech tanks
with very accurate weapons against relatively ordinary tanks with only
relatively ordinary accuracy. Iran will not be able to get air
supremacy - in fact it's far more likely the US would achieve that very
rapidly - so no close air support for the Iranians and lots of it for
the US.

right now is only an Army against civilians,
exploding themselves, (which the US is not used to)

Hard to deal with, agreed. That said their indescriminate nature and
their targeting of their own countrymen and government is not helping
them.

That is why the WAR in Iraq will never end, just like Isreal and Palestine.

They've been throwing sharp objects at each other in that region since
they were chipped from flint.
Realistically there will always be some terrorist activity there,
but it has long since lost the ability to overthrow the government by
force, (if it ever had it) so no matter how long they continue, they
have already lost. The only thing that is keeping it going this long is
the AQ types who see it as a convenient stage for their Anti-US agenda
and the support of the Shiites by the Iranians. A stable Iraq that is
friendly to the US (and perhaps with US bases) is a worry to them...
--
The CO
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User: "The Other Guy"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 08 Dec 2005 10:25:18 PM
(Personally) I'm not sure if the Real War [as referred to by the many prophets] has started
just yet, but your 2 cents has been acknowledged. ;-)
:-(]
"Jane" wrote in message


"The Other Guy" wrote in message

'Jane' I can't believe you are still going on about NAFTA.

Whether you like "Free Trade" or "Not" - we are on the 'verge' of World
War III (and in two
years, who will care about NAFTA (unless it means 'cut-rate' prices on
U.S. Missiles) !!!

As soon as Canada (under Harper) withdraws from Nato (as a 'Peackeeper'
Force) so will The
Netherlands.

There will be no one left to play "Linesmen" between the "Super Powers". -
do you know what
that MEANS ???


If 'Martin" is not re-elected, you might as well take the 'Osterag Stance'
right now. - "Put
You Head Between You Legs, And Kiss Your ***** 'Goodbye' !!!'"


Others were going on about Nafta; I was just adding my 2 cents.

I've said before that I believe WWIII started Sept 11, 2001. Haven't
changed my mind on that...but we won't know for sure until we look back.

I also have my worries re the peak oil situation...however, in the meantime,
life does go on.

BTW, we haven't really been a leader in peacekeeping in many years and we
will not withdraw from NATO, under Harper or anyone else.

Jane



Just A Very Serious Thought.

:-(]




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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 05 Dec 2005 07:22:25 PM
Jane wrote:

"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:Z8Ckf.61081$uC3.2777@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

Jane wrote:

"The Other Guy" <TheOtherGuy@NewWorldsBeyond.com> wrote in message
news:Pyzkf.23$kt5.1320@news20.bellglobal.com...


You know (as well as I know) the next Party to be elected in Canada will
be either Liberal or
Conservative (it TRULY is nice to see Layton finally have the 'Gonads' to
make him an
"Honourably Opposition") but it grew on him too late !!!

As someone that had to live thru those 'Wannabee Mayor of Toronto' years
of Layton's 'growth',
it took me a few years to finally see that he has grown beyond that Phase
!!!

He may have 'evolved' beyond Harper as a 'capable' favourite for Southern
Ontario (and
southern British Columbia), but he is still a long way off as Prime
Minister potential for
Canada.

The 'Major' mistake would be for "Fence Sitters" to give their vote to
Layton just because
they want to bring down the 'Martin' Government over mistakes made by the
"Chretien Regime".

Hargrove was right in 'Backing' the Liberals. Layton's NDP is still Too
Green, and Harper's
Conservatives have not yet 'abandoned the "Win At All Costs" attitude'
(which translates to: -
lie at all 'costs' - just so I can be Prime Minister.)

Another Conservative (in recent years) 'Promised The World" for his
election, and all we got
for that was [U.S. "Controlled"] 'Free Trade'. (Thanks for nothing
Mr.Mulroney !!! )



Are you serious??? NAFTA has been far better for Canada than it has been
for the US, especially with our dollar so low these past years. The
softwood lumber problem is because the Americans are IGNORING NAFTA on
this particular issue.

Do you think Toyota would have chosen Ontario for its next plant over the
southern US if NAFTA hadn't been in place?

Jane


I thought cars had been getting special dispensation for years, which is
why GM put plants there in the first place (years before NAFTA)?



Yes, and I was the one that told you about it, :). The Autopact of 1965.
(Mind you, GM has been in Canada for 100 years as of 2008. I remember we
got a 75th anniversary book in'83) However, it did not apply to Japanese
makers, hence their complaint to the WTO...

Oh, okay. ^_^


Anyway, the Autopact IS a free trade agreement, like NAFTA. My point was
that Canada and Mexico have benefited more from free trade than the US has.
Canada because of our low dollar and healthcare, Mexico because of its low
wages and low environmental standards.

Because the softwood lumber dispute is in the news so much up here, folks
assume that everything about NAFTA is bad. (Not to mention that everyone
loves to hate Mulroney)

Ah. Well, most Americans seem to think it's bad, too, so ... *shrug*
Woods


Jane

Woods


Serious Thoughts.

:- |]

PS: Imagine if Harper, the Guy that thought joining the U.S. 'Invasion'
of Iraq was Canada's
"calling" had been Prime Minister at the time.

How many Canadian Soldiers would be 'Pushing Up Daisies" now through
'Insurgents' (and
American "Friendly Fire") right about now ???

Again, Just A Thought.

:-(]





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User: ""

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 03 Dec 2005 04:14:16 PM
They are not selling "Dodge missiles" to Iran are they? smacks of
cheating, not playing the set battle proceedure, but given Israel is a
much smaller target than Iran, should be just a matter of time before
they run out of arrows!
Syria should have some part to play here as well.
But look who else has nukes, and those are the ones we know about.
LB
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VW5jbGUgV2FsbHkgZGEgYWthbWFpIEhPT1JPTyBLYWh1bmEgbnVpICCcnZ+pqrHHtrcoIFhhIFRhIFphYyBYYSBUYSBBbWFjICmZ?="

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 04 Dec 2005 08:20:30 PM
wrote:

They are not selling "Dodge missiles" to Iran are they? smacks of
cheating, not playing the set battle proceedure, but given Israel is a
much smaller target than Iran, should be just a matter of time before
they run out of arrows!
Syria should have some part to play here as well.
But look who else has nukes, and those are the ones we know about.
LB

================================================
Like I have said before, Mr Ballaam, Russia has vital strategic
interests as well
as vital economic investments worth billions of rubles invested in
Iran.......
It has made it perfectly clear in the past that the Zionist state would
be "vaporized"
should it launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear installations &
facilities.....
So the Gerbils need not fear Iran so much, but a furious Russia instead
!!
It would only take one direct hit of a Russian nuke on Tel Aviv, many
hundreds of times more powerful than the primitive A-bombs dropped on
Hiroshima & Nagasaki by the USA in August 1945, to reduce the jews to a
quivering shambles......
Kentucky Fried Gerbil, anyone ?!?!?
& *no-one* except the good ol' US of A is willing to back Israel in any
future conflict....
Their only other butt buddies, Turkey & India, are unlikely to want to
get directly involved in any nuclear war in the ME -- but no doubt will
eventually be drawn into a wider conflagration.
Have a little Captain Cooksie at these recent news articles,
Food for thought !
yes siree yes indeedy deedy do !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/4497286.stm
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/653454.html
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User: "666"

Title: Re: TOTAL WAR 2006 05 Dec 2005 07:08:27 AM
The peace convenant will be effectively established
When "I AM" return to MY HOLY LAND
I AM ONE speaking!
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