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23 Sep 2004 07:54:28 AM |
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Toutatis Toutorial - All You Care to Know...if you even care ;) |
The asteroid Toutatis is shaped like a bowling pin and has one of the
most erratic orbits of any near Earth object. On September 29, Toutatis
will come within about 1 million miles of Earth, the closest it has been
to the planet since 1353 and the closest it will be until 2562.
As a result, there are two schools of thought as to what might happen:
Scientists at NASA and elsewhere say there's no need to worry about an
impact with Earth, yet warnings about an impending impact are zipping
around the Internet faster than you can say World Wide Web.
Writing in Sky & Telescope magazine, Alan M. MacRoberts reports the
asteroid will make it closest approach to Earth yet. You can read his
article here.
http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/asteroids/article_1336_1.asp
From measuring Toutatis, NASA says it knows the tumbling asteriod will
not hit the Earth for the next 65 years. However, with its odd shape and
erratic tumbling motion Toutatis' movements are hard to predict. A lot
of information on the asteroid can be found at NASA's website here.
http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis.html
A graphic depiction of Toutatis' orbit can be found here.
http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis_orbit.gif
Intellpuke: "I hope NASA is correct and
Toutatis will miss the Earth. A million miles, however, is a very short
distance, astronomically speaking, and given the asteroid's erratic
orbit and the difficulty in predicting its movements, hoping NASA is
correct is the best I can give it at this point. In six days, we will
all find out which school of thought on Toutatis is accurate. "
http://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2105
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23 Sep 2004 02:37:20 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<16897-4152C784-220@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
The asteroid Toutatis is shaped like a bowling pin and has one of the
most erratic orbits of any near Earth object. On September 29, Toutatis
will come within about 1 million miles of Earth, the closest it has been
to the planet since 1353 and the closest it will be until 2562.
As a result, there are two schools of thought as to what might happen:
Scientists at NASA and elsewhere say there's no need to worry about an
impact with Earth, yet warnings about an impending impact are zipping
around the Internet faster than you can say World Wide Web.
Writing in Sky & Telescope magazine, Alan M. MacRoberts reports the
asteroid will make it closest approach to Earth yet. You can read his
article here.
http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/asteroids/article_1336_1.asp
From measuring Toutatis, NASA says it knows the tumbling asteriod will
not hit the Earth for the next 65 years. However, with its odd shape and
erratic tumbling motion Toutatis' movements are hard to predict. A lot
of information on the asteroid can be found at NASA's website here.
http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis.html
A graphic depiction of Toutatis' orbit can be found here.
http://echo.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroids/4179_Toutatis/toutatis_orbit.gif
Intellpuke: "I hope NASA is correct and
Toutatis will miss the Earth. A million miles, however, is a very short
distance, astronomically speaking, and given the asteroid's erratic
orbit and the difficulty in predicting its movements, hoping NASA is
correct is the best I can give it at this point. In six days, we will
all find out which school of thought on Toutatis is accurate. "
http://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2105
Thanks Susan. I have also read that it will be making another round
on that fateful year 2012. And that it is actually made up of two
large rocks moving in tandom. Just a gentle nudge (astronomically
speaking) would radically change the tragictory and double the odds of
an earth impact.
What the heck, we need an apocalypse every now and then for a fresh
start.
Seems to be a pretty popular religous theme. Could there be a better
time than now? ;)
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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| Title: Re: Toutatis Toutorial - All You Care to Know...if you even care ;) |
24 Sep 2004 06:00:13 PM |
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jha_amin wrote:
Thanks Susan. I have also read that it
will be making another round on that
fateful year 2012.
If all goes well with this one. he he!
And that it is actually made up of two
large rocks moving in tandom.
Like two large dice rolling? ;)
Just a gentle nudge (astronomically
speaking) would radically change the
tragictory and double the odds of an
earth impact.
There is so much of our space rubbish orbiting around......How much of a
nudge exactly?
What the heck, we need an apocalypse
every now and then for a fresh start.
Seems to be a pretty popular religous
theme. Could there be a better time
than now? ;)
Nope! 2004 has been very active for the end times.
SuZanne
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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24 Sep 2004 07:58:25 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, (Su Zanadu) on Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:00:13 -0400 spoke:
Just a gentle nudge (astronomically
speaking) would radically change the
tragictory and double the odds of an
earth impact.
There is so much of our space rubbish orbiting around......How much of a
nudge exactly?
One HELL of a nudge. A piece of 10 pound earth space debris
is NOT going to affect several million tons of orbital asteroid .
Nope! 2004 has been very active for the end times.
We are NOT in the end times. Not even CLOSE.
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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24 Sep 2004 09:21:46 PM |
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Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
One HELL of a nudge. A piece of 10
pound earth space debris is NOT going
to affect several million tons of orbital
asteroid .
Nope! 2004 has been very active for the
end times.
We are NOT in the end times. Not even
CLOSE.
Bud, I notice you hardly EVER smile and live solely to debunk in this
ng........but you really should be able to recognize when two posters
are displaying that famous "winking smiley" emoticon at each other
because they are mostly pulling each others leg amid the seriousness of
it all.
<WINK!> :)
SuZanne
(I'm SOooooo misunderstood!)
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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24 Sep 2004 10:24:39 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, (Su Zanadu) on Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:21:46 -0400 spoke:
Bud, I notice you hardly EVER smile and live solely to debunk in this
ng...
I only debunk the stupid, the ridiculous, and the clearly wrong.
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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23 Sep 2004 05:14:34 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<16897-4152C784-220@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
The asteroid Toutatis is shaped like a bowling pin and has one of the
most erratic orbits of any near Earth object. On September 29, Toutatis
will come within about 1 million miles of Earth, the closest it has been
to the planet since 1353 and the closest it will be until 2562.
As a result, there are two schools of thought as to what might happen:
a) it will hit and Christmas is not a problem.
b) It won't hit and NASA has to find another suspect to worry about.
Talk about asteroid angst, one would think we are threatened by an
erratic asteroid, which may be two asteroids clinging together, hence
the funny shape!
LB
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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24 Sep 2004 05:47:38 PM |
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And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
SuZanne
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| User: "Uncle Wallys World" |
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25 Sep 2004 12:13:49 AM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<16897-4154A40A-512@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
SuZanne
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooh, Goody goody goody ;-)
Looking forward to it !!!!
Now, *don't* let me down, sweetums ;-)
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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25 Sep 2004 06:09:50 PM |
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On 24 Sep 2004 22:13:49 -0700, (Uncle
Wally's World) wrote:
tugbertswife@webtv.net (Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<16897-4154A40A-512@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
Don't be so freaking stupid, chicken little.
Toutatis is further than the Moon.
SuZanne
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Oooooooooooooooooooooooh, Goody goody goody ;-)
Looking forward to it !!!!
Don't worry, pretty soon another rock or comet will be winging it's
way past for you to get twitterpated about.
Now, *don't* let me down, sweetums ;-)
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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25 Sep 2004 07:42:37 PM |
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Wally wrote:
Don't be so freaking stupid, chicken little.
Toutatis is further than the Moon.
SuZanne
Yes, Chicken big head.
I am fully aware that it is 4 lunar distances away....
What *really* get's us twitterpatted is watching you and Bud break your
necks to hurry here and think that you have debunked something :)
hahahahhahahhhh!
You see....nobody here in apn *really* believes that Toutatis is going
to impact the earth. Not even our happy-go-lucky Grim Reaper on Prozac
believes that.
It is indeed an event for backyard stargazers and astronomers....
But unlike *some*.....we are easily *awed*.
SuZanne
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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26 Sep 2004 01:14:25 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 20:42:37 -0400, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
Wally wrote:
Don't be so freaking stupid, chicken little.
Toutatis is further than the Moon.
SuZanne
Yes, Chicken big head.
I am fully aware that it is 4 lunar distances away....
What *really* get's us twitterpatted is watching you and Bud break your
necks to hurry here and think that you have debunked something :)
hahahahhahahhhh!
You see....nobody here in apn *really* believes that Toutatis is going
to impact the earth. Not even our happy-go-lucky Grim Reaper on Prozac
believes that.
It is indeed an event for backyard stargazers and astronomers....
But unlike *some*.....we are easily *awed*.
No, you are easily twitterpated.
*YOU* are the idiot who thinks a small rock 4 lunar distances away is
going to affect the earths weather.
Do tell us where you got that amazing idea
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"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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26 Sep 2004 02:44:08 AM |
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With his ***** on his shoulders as usual, Wahhhhh-ly wrote:
*YOU* are the idiot who thinks a small
rock 4 lunar distances away is going to
affect the earths weather.
Um.........NO, I do not think any such thing.
Do tell us where you got that amazing
idea
Um......SciFi movies.....I made it up? :)
If you had been paying *attention*......and not let your boner for
debunking take over your feeble mind, you would have known that was
added to what Leigh wrote in a joking manner.
It was a monotony breaker hoping for a smile, and to take our minds off
of beheadings, bombings and depleted uranium. We do things like that in
here occasionally. Nothing you can do about it either. :)
Now there is a chain mail circulating that has claimed there is a 63%
chance that Toutatis will hit the earth and the government is covering
it up.
If you hurry......you can go and debunk it. That feat could possibly top
this one. ;)
ta ta canteen boy!
:)
SuZanne
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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26 Sep 2004 04:11:36 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:44:08 -0400, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
With his ***** on his shoulders as usual, Wahhhhh-ly wrote:
*YOU* are the idiot who thinks a small
rock 4 lunar distances away is going to
affect the earths weather.
Um.........NO, I do not think any such thing.
No, that true, you said, and I quote:
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
So, now that we have corrected my claim, please tell us how a little
rock will do such a thing. Do try to be at least a little bit honest
with yourself, chicken little.
Do tell us where you got that amazing
idea
Um......SciFi movies.....I made it up? :)
If you had been paying *attention*......and not let your boner for
debunking take over your feeble mind, you would have known that was
added to what Leigh wrote in a joking manner.
Ahh, so I can take it that every time you get all twitterpated over a
comet, a cloud, a hurricane, a rock in space, or a planetary alignment
(as well as all the times you've done so in the past, including the
stupid posts you made to alt.astronomy - that was you, wasn't it?),
you are just joking. You are a debunker too, just you use humour?
It was a monotony breaker hoping for a smile, and to take our minds off
of beheadings, bombings and depleted uranium. We do things like that in
here occasionally. Nothing you can do about it either. :)
Now there is a chain mail circulating that has claimed there is a 63%
chance that Toutatis will hit the earth and the government is covering
it up.
If you hurry......you can go and debunk it. That feat could possibly top
this one. ;)
ta ta canteen boy!
Chicken littles of the world don't like their nonsense being countered
by a little bit of critical thinking. Too bad.
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"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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27 Sep 2004 01:24:39 PM |
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Wahhhh-lly wrote:
Um.........NO, I do not think any such
thing.
No, that true, you said, and I quote:
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the
natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
So, now that we have corrected my
claim, please tell us how a little rock will
do such a thing. Do try to be at least a
little bit honest with yourself, chicken
little.
YOU haven't corrected anything and only continue to make an ***** out of
yourself.
Now I will correct you because it is YOU who is wrong.
Leigh wrote:
a) it will hit and Christmas is not a problem.
b) It won't hit and NASA has to find another suspect to worry about.
and I added:
c) It's approach will greatly effect the
natural forces within earth's atmosphere.
And I don't believe that will happen any more than Leigh believes what
he wrote:
a) it will hit and Christmas is not a problem.
I sure hope you understand *now*.
Do tell us where you got that amazing
idea
Um......SciFi movies.....I made it up? :)
If you had been paying
*attention*......and not let your boner for >>debunking take over your
feeble mind,
you would have known that was added
to what Leigh wrote in a joking manner.
Ahh, so I can take it that every time you
get all twitterpated over a comet, a
cloud, a hurricane, a rock in space, or a
planetary alignment (as well as all the
times you've done so in the past,
including the stupid posts you made to
alt.astronomy - that was you, wasn't it?),
you are just joking. You are a debunker
too, just you use humour?
If you had thoroughly read any of the articles that I posted about
Toutatis.....you would know that NONE of them claim that Toutatis is
going to hit the earth!
No, I AM NOT a debunker....that's YOU! *lol*!
I do not have the need, the time, nor the energy for that sort of thing
and I think it just silly when I see people go *on* and *on*
endlessly......in their debunking mode, telling people how stupid they
are, trying to force them to believe things to which they may or may not
have the mental capacity to perceive.
That's YOU Wally.....not me.
Let people believe and think what they want or need to. Why should
everybody have to think the way you do?
Why do you need to insult people if they are not as intelligent as you
or are a little on the nutty side?
Do you have an ego problem or other issues? Are you some sort of Control
freak? :)
Also.....
I don't know what you are talking about as far as posting in
alt.astronomy. I went over there and checked it out and didn't see
anything that you may be referring to.
Did somebody duplicate one of my posts over there? If so...it wasn't me
I assure you.
That's twice you are wrong and you are definitely out of line here.
You can reply... if you *want* to...but as far as I'm concerned we are
finished here.
That's all the energy I care to waste on the debunking of "Wally
Anglese"....whoever the *F* that is. maybe you are somebody in
AU.....you mean nothing to me over here.
good bye!
SuZanne
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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26 Sep 2004 05:12:02 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, Wally Anglesea™ <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>> on Sun, 26
Sep 2004 21:11:36 GMT spoke:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:44:08 -0400, (Su Zanadu)
wrote:
With his ***** on his shoulders as usual, Wahhhhh-ly wrote:
*YOU* are the idiot who thinks a small
rock 4 lunar distances away is going to
affect the earths weather.
Um.........NO, I do not think any such thing.
No, that true, you said, and I quote:
When posted it didn't sound, to me, like she was joking.
But she says she was, and I'm inclined to believe her,
based on her previous history
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| User: "Leigh_Bee" |
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28 Sep 2004 05:19:49 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<16897-4154A40A-512@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>...
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
SuZanne
Not even a Whoosh, or just maybe a glow moving quickly away!
LB
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| User: "Su Zanadu" |
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28 Sep 2004 10:39:40 PM |
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Leigh wrote:
Not even a Whoosh, or just maybe a
glow moving quickly away! LB
Any EARTHQUAKES or HURRICANES or RAGING HUMANS at this time of the
approach are *purely* coincidental.
I am going to just sit at home and watch the old 80's flick "Night of
the Comet". Gawsh, but I *love* that movie! :)
(Has Kelly Maroney and flesh eating zombies in it.)
And then....it's back to the Christmas list I suppose.
SuZanne
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30 Sep 2004 05:37:34 PM |
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(Su Zanadu) wrote in message news:<19814-415A2E7C-208@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net>...
Leigh wrote:
Not even a Whoosh, or just maybe a
glow moving quickly away! LB
Any EARTHQUAKES or HURRICANES or RAGING HUMANS at this time of the
approach are *purely* coincidental.
I am going to just sit at home and watch the old 80's flick "Night of
the Comet". Gawsh, but I *love* that movie! :)
(Has Kelly Maroney and flesh eating zombies in it.)
And then....it's back to the Christmas list I suppose.
SuZanne
California is all that's left?
LB
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24 Sep 2004 07:41:31 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:47:38 -0400, Su Zanadu wrote:
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
SuZanne
Nonsense but of coarse you haven't a clue in your head anyway....
It's a non-event disaster wise, sorry to disappoint you...
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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25 Sep 2004 06:20:24 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:41:31 GMT, Fredrick Garvin <Garv@elaborate.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:47:38 -0400, Su Zanadu wrote:
And I'd like to add to Leigh's list:
C. It's approach will greatly effect the natural forces within earth's
atmosphere.
SuZanne
Nonsense but of coarse you haven't a clue in your head anyway....
It's a non-event disaster wise, sorry to disappoint you...
Astronomy wise, there's a few million amateur astronomers anticipating
the "close" approach, many with sophisticated computer controlled
scopes and imagers (myself included). So we are all tracking this
object, similar in the way we track comets. With things called
ephemerides.
Now the cool thing about all this, is all us amateurs (and a few
professionals too), all over the world, enter our GPS co-ordinates,
the ephemerides of the object we are looking for (in this case
Toutatis), and the time. So our computers KNOW where to point, and
how to track.
What's cool, is even those without computer controlled scopes know
where to look on each and every night.
Yet the chicken littles of the world don't understand that.
I guess millions of amateur astronomers must be part of an
international conspiracy, and only the chicken littles of the world
know the TRVTH, huh?
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"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
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26 Sep 2004 06:07:35 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:20:24 +0000, Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
I guess millions of amateur astronomers must be part of an
international conspiracy, and only the chicken littles of the world
know the TRVTH, huh?
Ummm, Wally...didn't you get the memo???
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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23 Sep 2004 03:33:28 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, (Su Zanadu) on Thu, 23 Sep 2004 08:54:28 -0400 spoke:
The asteroid Toutatis is shaped like a bowling pin and has one of the
most erratic orbits of any near Earth object.
*****.
It has an erratic ROTATION, it's orbit is not erratic!
On September 29, Toutatis
will come within about 1 million miles of Earth, the closest it has been
to the planet since 1353 and the closest it will be until 2562.
As a result, there are two schools of thought as to what might happen:
No, there is NO doubt among educated rational people.
Toutatis will pass us. That's all.
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