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Toward Atheists & Other Anti-Christians: No Hard Feelings... |
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With the end of the world at the doors, I've noticed an increasing
number of Anti-Christian Atheists responding to Christian messages
over the past several weeks, as if to bargain with the Grim Reaper.
As if complaining to Christians is going to save them from Death &
Hell, Judgment and the lake of Fire--any more than it will save us
from the same. Death is the great equalizer. Judgment comes to ALL.
Realize that the great tribulation, Armageddon and the end of the
world is not a negotiation. No matter how much you complain about
the end of the world, with its inconveniences and assuredly worse
that goes with it, there's nothing you nor I nor anyone can do to
stop it. Personally, I have learned to accept it even as the five
stages of grief lead us to acceptance. Christians know that death
must precede the second coming of Christ. Thus we look forward to
our own predestined physical death according to God's divine will,
toward the universal purging of the earth, which clears the path
for Jesus' return with the Dark clouds, like our Holy Bible says.
It's what I pray for incessantly. And I feel very good about that.
Christians appreciate that Atheists believe differently from what
we believe, very differently indeed, but nonetheless that is what
Christians believe, that Armageddon and the end of the Antichrist-
empire is foreordained by the crucifixion of Christ. It MUST come
before Christ can return to reign over the earth with his armies,
his faithful, his Ecclesia. You may not believe that, but we do.
Therefore, may I suggest learning to recognize the five general
stages of grief, as enumerated in the late E. Kubler-Ross' best-
seller 'On Death and Dying' (Simon & Schuster/Touchstone, 1969):
1) Denial, 2) Anger, 3) Bargaining, 4) Depression, 5) Acceptance.
The first two stages Anger & Denial are an insidious mobius loop
of ego-centric subjectivity. Once you graduate to bargaining, or
negotiation, you'll quickly realize that there is no bargaining
with the Grim Reaper. Thus it doesn't take a rocket scientist to
proceed to stage four, Depression. How you handle this is up to
you, depending on how close you are in touch with your emotions.
You may cry rivers, wailing in funeral sorrow, and mourning for
months on end, seeing no end in sight. Or you may see the Light
at the end of the tunnel. If, and when, you do see the Light (if
not before death, then eventually afterwards you assuredly will)
you'll have reached the refined, perfected, state of acceptance.
You'll know when you have reached it, because you'll no longer
fear your own ego-death (the human ego being part of the brain).
It doesn't make you much less afraid of dying, but it helps to
comfort your immortal soul (regardless of what you may believe).
Acceptance helps you to see your own ego-self objectively. See?
The end of the world is imminent. May I suggest you be prepared
for it, however it is you Atheists prepare, or not prepare, for
your own inevitable death. Christians prepare through practicing
unconditional surrender to the will of God (by whatever name one
calls God the Creator, our heavenly father, Jehovah, Allah, etc.)
I don't frankly know what Atheists do, if anything, but you might
consider getting your house in order. Armageddon is imminent, and
no mortal human being on earth, no government, no agency, is able
to do much of anything to stop it. So you might as well accept it.
I know I have, and I feel happier now than I ever have in my life.
The bible calls this the holy spirit, the comforter, or third part
of the trinity. Believing in Jesus fills you with the holy spirit.
May you find happiness, however it is you find it, in the several
years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, however long
or short remains before the grand King of terror strikes the HOUR
approaching the seventh grand revolution. The Scythe is unchained...
No hard feelings, to anyone, no matter how Anti-Christian you are.
God has said He shall repay, and I believe His Word over all else.
Happy Thanksgiving,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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09 Nov 2007 10:27:40 PM |
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"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in message
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May you find happiness, however it is you find it, in the several
years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, however long
or short remains before the grand King of terror strikes the HOUR
approaching the seventh grand revolution. The Scythe is unchained...
No hard feelings, to anyone, no matter how Anti-Christian you are.
God has said He shall repay, and I believe His Word over all else.
You have an eternity of smugness to listen to the dammed screaming in
eternal torment while you sip tea and biscuits with Jesus to look forward
to. Atheist just die - deal with it.
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09 Nov 2007 09:28:49 PM |
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And I've seen a lot of arrogant Christains posting in groups that have
nothing to do with pisstianity trying to convert its members (hehehe
members)
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09 Nov 2007 11:26:29 PM |
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George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> writes:
With the end of the world at the doors, I've noticed an increasing
number of Anti-Christian Atheists responding to Christian messages
over the past several weeks, as if to bargain with the Grim Reaper.
As if complaining to Christians is going to save them from Death &
Hell, Judgment and the lake of Fire--any more than it will save us
from the same. Death is the great equalizer. Judgment comes to ALL.
So have about 50 gallons of Shut The ***** Up and kill yourself first, Minkook.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2007-08 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Quad City 4, Houston 1 (November 9)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 10 vs. Worcester, 7:35
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09 Nov 2007 09:16:29 PM |
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George Orwell wrote:
No hard feelings, to anyone, no matter how Anti-Christian you
are. God has said He shall repay, and I believe His Word over
all else.
Then tell your pitiful god to get off it's ***** and stand up like
a god. I'll take on the little twerp myself.
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Dave
You measure a democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents,
not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
- Abbie Hoffman
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George Orwell wrote:
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With the end of the world at the doors,
Give up, Danny.
http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html
A favorite subject of prophets has always been the end of mankind and/
or the demise of our planet and/or the collapse of the entire
universe. Part of the technique, for some, is to place the date far
enough ahead that when The End fails to arrive, the oracle is no
longer around to have to explain why. Others, often to encourage the
surrender of property and other worldly chattels by the Believers,
prepare excuses well in advance and manage to survive the great
disappointment that often follows a failed prediction. In any case,
the resilient fans never discredit the notion; they merely redesign
the details and settle back once more to confidently await doom.
Here is a short list of some rather interesting end-of-the-world
prognostications, beginning with biblical references and ending with
some contemporary seers and their doomsayings. Judging from the record
earned by the soothsayers in this matter, we may safely assume that
our planet will continue very much the same as it is for some
considerable period into the future.
B.C.-A.D. According to the New Testament, The End should have occurred
before the death of the last Apostle. In Matthew 16:28, it says:
Verily, I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not
taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
One by one, all the apostles died. And the world rolled on for
everyone else. . . .
A.D. 992 In the year 960, scholar Bernard of Thuringia caused great
alarm in Europe when he confidently announced that his calculations
gave the world only thirty-two more years before The End. His own end,
fortunately for him, occurred before that event was to have taken
place.
December 31, A.D. 999 The biblical Apocrypha says that the Last
Judgment (and therefore, one supposes, the end of the world) would
occur one thousand years after the birth of Jesus Christ. When the day
arrived, though it is doubtful that there was all the panic that was
reported by later accounts, a certain degree of apprehension was
probably experienced. It was said that land was left uncultivated in
that final year, since there would obviously be no need for crops.
According to the Encyclopedia of Superstitions, public documents of
that era began, "As the world is now drawing to a close . . ." Modern
authorities suspect that historians Voltaire and Gibbon may have
created or at least embellished this tale to prove the credulous
nature of medieval Christians.
Significantly, Pope Sylvester II and Emperor Otto III momentarily
mended their considerable political differences in anticipation of a
certain leveling of those matters.
A.D. 1033 Theorists pressed to explain the A.D. 999 bust decided that
the 1,000 years should have been figured from the death of Christ
rather than from his birth. Bust number two followed.
September 1186 An astrologer known as John of Toledo in 1179
circulated pamphlets advertising the world's end when all the (known)
planets were in Libra. (If the sun was included in this requirement,
this should have occurred on September 23 at 16:15 GMT, or at that
same hour on October 3 in the new calendar.) In Constantinople, the
Byzantine Emperor walled up his windows, and in England the Archbishop
of Canterbury called for a day of atonement. Though the alignment of
planets took place, The End did not.
A.D. 1260 Joaquim of Flore worked out a splendid calculation that
definitely pinpointed A.D. 1260 as The Date. Joaquim had a bent pin.
February 1, 1524 This was one of the most pervasive Doomsday-by-Flood
expectations ever recorded. In June of 1523, astrologers in London
predicted that The End would begin in London with a deluge. Some
20,000 persons left their homes, and the Prior of St. Bartholomew's
built a fortress in which he stocked enough food and water for a two-
month wait. When the dreaded date failed to provide even a rain shower
in a city where precipitation is very much to be expected, the
astrologers recalculated and discovered they'd been a mere one hundred
years off. (On the same day in 1624, astrologers were again
disappointed to discover that they were still dry and alive.)
The year 1524 was full of predicted disaster. Belief in this date was
very strong throughout Europe. An astrologer impressively named
Nicolaus Peranzonus de Monte Sancte Marie, found that a coming
conjunction of major planets would occur in Pisces (a water sign) that
year, and this strengthened the general belief in a universal final
deluge.
George Tannstetter, another astrologer/mathematician at the University
of Vienna, was one of very few at that time who denied The End would
occur as predicted. He drew up his own horoscope, discovered that he
would live beyond 1524, and denied the other calculations were
correct. But George was considered a spoilsport, and was ignored.
A "giant flood" was prophesied for February 20 (some say February 2)
of 1524 by astrologer Johannes Stoeffler, who employed his skill to
establish that date in 1499. Such was the belief in his ability that
more than one hundred pamphlets were written and published on his
prediction.
The planets involved in this dire conjunction were Mercury, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, along with the sun. Neptune, unknown then,
was also in the sign Pisces. Other major influences, Uranus and the
moon, were not. Nor was Pluto, also unknown then. But the date of this
conjunction was February 23 (old calendar), not the twentieth.
In response to the 1524 prophecies, in Germany, people set about
building boats, while one Count von Iggleheim, obviously a devout
believer in Stoeffler's ability, built a three-story ark. In Toulouse,
French President Aurial also built himself a huge ark. In some
European port cities, the populace took refuge on boats at anchor.
When it only rained lightly on the predicted date where von Iggleheim
had his ark, the crowd awaiting the deluge ran amok and, with little
better to do, stoned the count to death. Hundreds were killed in the
resultant stampede. Stoeffler, who had survived the angry mob, re-
examined his data and came up with a new date of 1528. This time there
was no reaction to his declaration. Sometimes people actually get
smart.
Incidentally, the 1878 Encyclopaedia Britannica described 1524 as "a
year, as it turned out, distinguished for drought."
1532. A bishop of Vienna, Frederick Nausea, decided a major disaster
was "near" when various strange events were reported to him. He was
told that bloody crosses had been seen in the skies along with a
comet, that black bread had fallen from midair, and that three suns
and a flaming castle had been discerned in the heavens. The story of
an eight-year-old girl of Rome whose breasts, he was told, spouted
warm water, finally convinced this scholar that the world was due to
end, and he so declared to the faithful.
October 3, 1533, at Eight A.M. Mathematician and Bible student Michael
Stifel (known as Stifelius) had calculated an exact date and time for
Doomsday from scholarly perusal of the Book of Revelation. When they
did not vaporize, the curiously ungrateful citizens of the German town
of Lochau, where Stifel had announced the dreaded day, rewarded him
with a thorough flogging. He also lost his ecclesiastical living as a
result of his prophetic failure.
1533 Anabaptist Melchior Hoffmann announced in Strasbourg, France, a
city which had been chosen by him as the New Jerusalem, that the world
would be consumed by flames in 1533. He believed that in New Jerusalem
exactly 144,000 persons would live on while two characters named Enoch
and Elias would blast flames from their mouths over the rest of the
world. The rich and pious who hoped to be included in that number
saved destroyed their rent records, forgave their debtors, and gave
away their money and goods to the poor. How those commodities were to
be used among the flames was not explained, nor did anyone point out
that such sacrifices so near The End were hardly meritorious.
The time of cataclysm by fire came and went, and a new apostle named
Matthysz arose to encourage those who now expressed slight doubts,
telling them it had been slightly postponed. Thus, in February 1534,
more than one hundred persons were baptized in Amsterdam in
anticipation of the still-expected event. As it turned out, the years
1533 and 1534 were noted for their lack of conflagrations, a fact that
might be explained by the public's suddenly increased awareness of
danger from fire.
1537 (And also in 1544, 1801, and 1814) In Dijon, France, a list of
prophecies by astrologer Pierre Turrel was published posthumously. His
predictions of The End were spread over a period of 277 years, but all
were fortunately wrong. He had used four different methods of
computation to arrive at the four dates, while assuring his readers
that he had strictly orthodox religious beliefs----a very wise move in
his day.
1544 See 1537.
1572 In Britain, a total solar eclipse and a few impressive novas
seemed to signal something important. Considerable panic ensued, to no
avail.
1584 Astrologer Cyprian Leowitz, who had the distinction in 1559 of
being included in the official Index of prohibited writers by Pope
Paul IV, predicted the end of the world for 1584. Taking no chances,
however, he then issued a set of astronomical tables covering
celestial events all the way to the year 1614, in the unlikely event
that the world would survive. It did.
1588 The sage Regiomontanus (Johann M=FCller, 1436-1476), posthumously a
victim of enthusiastic crackpots who delighted in attributing occult
and magical powers to him, was said to have predicted The End for the
year 1588 in an obscure quatrain, but in 1587 Norfolk physician John
Harvey reassured his readers that the calculations ascribed to the
master were faulty, and the resulting prophecy false. Harvey was
right.
1624 See 1524.
1648 Rabbi Sabbati Zevi, in Smyrna, interpreted the kabala to show
that he was the promised Messiah and that his advent, accompanied by
spectacular miracles, was due in 1648. By 1665, regardless of the
failure of the wonders to appear, Zevi had a huge following, and his
date was now changed to 1666. Citizens of Smyrna abandoned their work
and prepared to return to Jerusalem, all on the strength of reported
miracles by Zevi. Meeting a sharp reversal when arrested by the Sultan
for an attempted coup and brought in fetters to Constantinople, the
new Messiah sat in prison while followers as far away as Holland,
Germany and Hungary began packing up in anticipation of Armageddon.
Unfortunately for these faithful, the Sultan converted the capricious
Zevi to Islam, and the movement ended.
1654 Consulting his ephemeris and considering the nova of 1572,
physician Helisaeus Roeslin of Alsace decided in 1578 that the world
would surely terminate in flames in another seventy-six years. He did
not survive to see his prophecy fail. That should have been an evil
year indeed. An eclipse of the sun was predicted for August 12 (it
actually occurred on the 11th) and that was also widely believed to
bring about The End. Many conversions to the True Faith took place,
physicians prescribed staying indoors, and the churches were filled.
1665 With the Black Plague in full force, Quaker Solomon Eccles
terrorized the citizens of London yet further with his declaration
that the resident pestilence was merely the beginning of The End. He
was arrested and jailed when the plague began to abate rather than
increasing. Eccles fled to the West Indies upon his release from
prison, whereupon he once again exercised his zeal for agitation by
inciting the slaves there to revolt. The Crown fetched him back home
as a troublemaker, and he died shortly thereafter.
1666 See 1648.
1704 Cardinal Nicholas de Cusa, without Vatican endorsement, declared
The End was to arrive in 1704.
May 19, 1719 Jacques (also Jakob I) Bernoulli, the first of a famous
line of Swiss mathematicians who made their home in Berne, predicted
the return of the comet of 1680 and earth-rending results therefrom.
The comet did not come back, perhaps for astronomical reasons, but
Bernoulli went on to discover a mathematical series now called the
Bernoulli Numbers. He is renowned for this and for the eight
exceptional mathematicians his line produced in three generations, but
not for Doomsday nor for his astronomical calculations.
October 13, 1736 London was once again targeted for the "beginning of
the end," this time by William Whiston. The Thames filled with waiting
boatloads of citizens, but it didn't even rain. Another setback.
1757 Mystic/theologian/spiritist and supreme egocentric Emmanuel
Swedenborg, ever willing to be a center of attention for one reason or
another, decided after one of his frequent consultations with angels
that 1757 was the terminating date of the world. To his chagrin, he
was not taken too seriously by anyone, including the angels.
April 5, 1761 When religious fanatic and soldier William Bell noticed
that exactly twenty-eight days had elapsed between a February 8 and a
March 8 earthquake in 1761, he naturally concluded that the entire
world would crumble in another twenty-eight days, that is, on April
5th. Most suggested that the date should have been four days earlier,
in tune with the probability, but many credulous Londoners believed
him and snapped up every available boat, taking to the Thames or
scurrying out of town as if those actions would save them. History
records nothing more of Bell after April 6, when he was tossed into
London's madhouse, Bedlam, by a disappointed public.
1774 English sect leader Joanna Southcott (1750-1814) had the notion
that she was pregnant with the New Messiah, whom she proposed to name
Shiloh. History records that her pregnancy "came to nothing," nor did
the world end as she had prophesied. She left behind a box of mystical
notes that were to be opened only after her death with twenty-four
bishops present. Perhaps because of a failure to interest that many
ecclesiastics of high rank to attend the occasion, the box was not
opened and vanished somewhere. She was succeeded by several minor
would-be prophets, all of whom tried other End-of-the-World
predictions, with the same result. One successor, John Turner, we will
meet up ahead.
1801 Astrologer Pierre Turrel (see 1537) chose this date, along with
three others, for The End. His first two had already failed by this
time. Again, no luck.
1814 Astrologer Pierre Turrel (remember him?) chose this last date for
The End. His three others had already failed, and, again no luck! As
author Charles Mackay wryly noted, "the world wagged as merrily as
before."
October 14, 1820 Prophet John Turner was leader of the Southcottian
movement in Bradford, England. The specialty of this sect was End-of-
the-World prophecies, the first one having been made by the founder of
the group, Joanna Southcott, whom we have already met back in 1774.
His failed prediction turned his congregation against him, and John
Wroe (see 1977, up ahead) took over the movement.
April 3, 1843 (And also July 7, 1843, March 21 and October 22, 1844)
William Miller, founder of the Millerite church, spent fifteen years
in careful study of the scriptures and determined that the world would
conclude sometime in 1843. He announced this discovery of what he
called "the midnight cry" in 1831. When there was a spectacular meteor
shower in 1833, it seemed to his followers that his prediction was
close to being fulfilled, and they celebrated their imminent demise.
Then, as each date he named failed to produce Armageddon, Miller moved
it up a bit. The faithful continued to gather by the thousands on
hilltops all over America each time one of the new dates would dawn.
Finally, on October 22, 1844, the last day that Miller had calculated
for The End, the Millerites relaxed their vigils. Five years later,
Miller died, still revered and not at all concerned at his failed
prophecies.
The movement eventually changed its name and broke up into a number of
modern-day churches, among them the Seventh-Day Adventist Church,
which today has over three million members.
1874 A date calculated by Charles Taze Russell of the Jehovah's
Witnesses (which see) for The End.
1881 Those who delighted in measuring the various passages of the
Great Pyramid of Giza, presumed to be the tomb of Cheops, calculated
that all would be over in 1881. Careful remeasuring and some
imagination gave a better (but not much better) date of 1936. That was
improved upon by other students who decided upon 1953 as the terminal
year. Further refinements and improvements of technique are still
being made. If we get a new date, we'll let you know.
1881 Mother Shipton is supposed to have written:
The world to an end will come
In eighteen hundred and eighty-one.
The prediction, as well as the rhyme, are faulted. A book titled, The
Life and Death of Mother Shipton, written in 1684 by Richard Head, was
reprinted in a garbled and freely "improved" version in 1862 by
Charles Hindley. In 1873 Hindley admitted having forged that rhyme and
many others, but his confession caused no lessening of the great alarm
in rural England when 1881 arrived.
The world not having ended in that year, the above spurious verse has
since been published in a refreshed version which substitutes
"nineteen" for "eighteen" and "ninety" for "eighty." The world,
according to most authorities, did not end then, either.
1936 One set of Great Pyramid measurers came up with this date.
1914 One of three dates the Jehovah's Witnesses promised The End. The
others were 1874 and 1975.
1947 In 1889, "America's Greatest Prophet," John Ballou Newbrough,
said that for sure in 1947:
all the present governments, religions and all monied monopolies are
to be overthrown and go out of existence. . . . Our present form of so-
called Christian religion will overrun America, tear down the American
flag, and trample it underfoot. In Europe the disaster will be even
more terrible. . . . Hundreds of thousands of people will be
killed. . . . All nations will be demolished and the earth be thrown
open to all people to go and come as they please.
It wasn't a great year, but it wasn't all that bad.
1953 Again, a group of Great Pyramid nuts with their tape-measures
figured out this year as the last. Back to the King's Chamber, guys.
1974 Interestingly enough, the conjunction of heavenly bodies that
occurred back in 1524 was far, far more powerful than the more recent
one described in a silly book titled The Jupiter Effect, written by
two otherwise sensible astronomers who, in 1974, predicted dreadful
effects on our planet as a result of a March 10, 1982, "alignment" of
planets. Other astronomers denied that any effect would be felt, and
when the date came and went, as you may have noticed, no one noticed.
One of the authors reported that some earthquakes which had occurred
in 1980 had been the "premature result of The Jupiter Effect," and the
public yawned in amazement.
1975 One of the several dates promised by the Jehovah's Witnesses as
The Date. Wrong.
1977 John Wroe, who is described by the kindliest historian we can
find as a "foul-mouthed, ugly, dirty lecher," in 1823 inherited the
leadership of the Southcottian sect in England when an End-of-the-
World prophecy by John Turner failed. Learning from the example, Wroe
took no chances. He made his Armageddon prophecy for 1977. A 1971
book, Prophets Without Honor, says of Wroe:
At a time when thermo-nuclear powers face each other across the Iron
and Bamboo Curtains, it is well to remember that----as far as can be
judged from the scanty records----John Wroe, indeed, was a true prophet!
1980 A very old Arabic astrological presage of doom specified that
when the planets Saturn and Jupiter would be in conjunction in the
sign Libra at 9 degrees, 29 minutes of that sign, we could kiss a big
bye-bye to everything----camels, sand, mosques, the whole bag. That
astronomical configuration almost took place at midnight of December
31 (new calendar), 1980, a date calculated by astrologers many years
ago as the one spoken of. Jupiter was at 9 degrees, 24 minutes, and
Saturn was at 9 degrees, 42 minutes, so the calculation was close to
correct. However, nary a camel blinked an eye.
1980s The unsinkable Jeane Dixon, ever optimistic and daring,
predicted in 1970 that a comet would strike the earth in the
"mid-80's" at a place that she knew, but did not deign to tell. That
information was to be held until a "future date." Perhaps she is now
prepared to tell us? She said of this event that it "may well become
known as one of the worst disasters of the 20th century." But then
Jeane also said that, "I feel it will surely be in the 1980's that [an
un-named person] will become the first woman president in the United
States." Back to that ephemeris, Jeane.
1996 It has been reasoned by biblical scholars that since one day with
God equals one thousand years for Man, and that God labored at the
creation of the universe for six days, Man should labor for six
thousand years and then take a rest. Thus, using other scripturally
derived numbers, the world should end sometime in 1996. It didn't.
July 1999 In Quatrain X-72, Nostradamus declared:
L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
Du ciel viendra grand Roy deffraieur
Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
Auant apres Mars regner par bon heur.
The year 1999, seven months,
=46rom the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.
Sure.
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With the end of the world at the doors,
Hm? Oh, I am not worried... Bring it on.
I've noticed an increasing
number of Anti-Christian Atheists responding to Christian messages
over the past several weeks,
If they post to alt.atheism, sure we respond.
as if to bargain with the Grim Reaper.
Oh, you mean DEATH (as in Pratchett)? Actually a nice fellow.
As if complaining to Christians
Complaining? Only that they should not expect that their posts in
alt.atheism will go through uncommented.... and taken apart.
is going to save them from Death &
Hell, Judgment and the lake of Fire
Nah. Actually, if I was to choose between heaven and hell (that is, if
there were such a thing) I would chose hell. Hands down, no contest.
Imagine all eternity with you buggers. I'll take brimstone any day.
--any more than it will save us
from the same.
Oh bugger. PLEASE behave? So that you can end up in heaven and I can
spend eternity without you?
Death is the great equalizer. Judgment comes to ALL.
if you say so....
Realize that the great tribulation, Armageddon and the end of the
world is not a negotiation.
I am still not worried...
No matter how much you complain about
the end of the world,
Oh, I am not. Nowhere in sight.
with its inconveniences and assuredly worse
that goes with it, there's nothing you nor I nor anyone can do to
stop it.
Why stop something that is nowhere in sight?
Personally, I have learned to accept it even as the five
stages of grief lead us to acceptance. Christians know that death
must precede the second coming of Christ.
Oh please? Jump of a cliff then?
Thus we look forward to
our own predestined physical death according to God's divine will,
I'd rather take care of myself, if its all the same to you, thanks.
toward the universal purging of the earth, which clears the path
for Jesus' return with the Dark clouds, like our Holy Bible says.
Oooh.... your book... See here, I have lots of books. And for some, I
can even ASK the author.... (Sadly, Heinlein is dead, Bradley is
dead.... so many good ones...)
It's what I pray for incessantly.
You PRAY for the end of the world? You should be locked up... and
someone should throw the key away.
And I feel very good about that.
Even more so... Use cement on the cell, like they did in Tschernobyl. A
nice big coffin of cement...
Christians appreciate that Atheists believe differently from what
we believe, very differently indeed,
Nope. We DON'T believe, that is the whole point.
but nonetheless that is what
Christians believe, that Armageddon and the end of the Antichrist-
empire is foreordained by the crucifixion of Christ.
Which is fiction to begin with...
It MUST come
before Christ can return to reign over the earth with his armies,
his faithful, his Ecclesia. You may not believe that, but we do.
Oh, well. What you believe is your piece of cake. Why are you posting
this crap to alt.atheism again?
Therefore, may I suggest learning to recognize the five general
stages of grief, as enumerated in the late E. Kubler-Ross' best-
seller 'On Death and Dying' (Simon & Schuster/Touchstone, 1969):
1) Denial, 2) Anger, 3) Bargaining, 4) Depression, 5) Acceptance.
Oh, I know them. But what do they have to do with it?
[snip this]
The end of the world is imminent.
Any hints? You got your chief honchos phone number and asked him?
May I suggest you be prepared
for it, however it is you Atheists prepare, or not prepare, for
your own inevitable death.
Oh, death. Well. Everyone realizes at some point that life is finite.
Well, I'd rather say, atheists see this.... theists think that it is NOT
finite.... so who is the deluded one?
Christians prepare through practicing
unconditional surrender to the will of God
Oh! Masochists, are they?
(by whatever name one
calls God the Creator, our heavenly father, Jehovah, Allah, etc.)
I don't frankly know what Atheists do, if anything, but you might
consider getting your house in order.
Huh? IF the end of the world is coming, why clean up my house? It will
be rubble anyway...
Armageddon is imminent,
Oh. We heard that before....
and
no mortal human being on earth, no government, no agency, is able
to do much of anything to stop it. So you might as well accept it.
I know I have, and I feel happier now than I ever have in my life.
The bible calls this the holy spirit, the comforter, or third part
of the trinity. Believing in Jesus fills you with the holy spirit.
Oh. Must be that "olibanum"... psychedelic drug, you know?
May you find happiness, however it is you find it, in the several
years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, seconds, however long
or short remains before the grand King of terror strikes the HOUR
approaching the seventh grand revolution. The Scythe is unchained...
Yep. Must be this stuff... Pretty unhinged, though not the scythe, your
brain, I would say...
No hard feelings, to anyone, no matter how Anti-Christian you are.
Hell, if you post this junk to alt.atheism, you certainly MUST know what
to expect... Namely, be ridiculed.
God has said He shall repay, and I believe His Word over all else.
hehe... at least he pays his debts....
So, Conclusion.... Another christian basket case.....
Tokay
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The truth is out there? Anyone knows the URL?
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10 Nov 2007 11:01:40 AM |
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George Orwell wrote:
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With the end of the world at the doors, I've noticed an increasing
number of Anti-Christian Atheists responding to Christian messages
over the past several weeks, as if to bargain with the Grim Reaper.
As if complaining to Christians is going to save them from Death &
Hell, Judgment and the lake of Fire--any more than it will save us
from the same. Death is the great equalizer. Judgment comes to ALL.
Look at that. Danny thinks lying and changing identities to get
around killfiles is okay. Why is that, Danny?
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| User: "Kenneth Doyle" |
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10 Nov 2007 02:04:56 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:54:33 +0100, George Orwell wrote:
Christians appreciate that Atheists believe differently from what we
believe
Liar! If you really appreciated that, you wouldn't come here spouting
crap. Am I bargaining yet?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Nov 2007 07:59:05 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:54:33 +0100, George Orwell wrote:
With the end of the world at the doors, I've noticed an increasing
number of Anti-Christian Atheists responding to Christian messages over
the past several weeks,
Translation:
"I'm a schizophrenic loon who trolls atheist newsgroups."
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The men the American people admire most
extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men
they detest most violently are those who try to
tell them the truth.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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10 Nov 2007 12:05:06 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> bloodied
us up with this:
With the end of the world at the doors,
Your "end of the world" has been at the doors for thousands of years. It
just can't seem to break through to reality.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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