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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
True-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
While we know there were probably minor errors
in copying and translating the bible, its inte-
grity has survived. It's truly the word of God,
and is likely better than 99.99% verbatim what
was originally intended by its ancient authors.
2) Jesus Christ is everything and much, much more
than the bible says he was, is and will always
be. Is he truly the son of the almighty God of
of the universe? True-Xians know to answer Yes.
Is Jesus one with God the father? Indeed he is.
Did he die for our sins? God knows that he did.
Is Jesus God? Indeed, you have said that he is.
3) There are divine laws of superconscious origin,
meaning God all-knowingly, all-intelligently &
all-presently created the entire universe with
divine purpose infinitely exceeding every mans
ability to fully comprehend it. God is smarter
than we are. True-Xians are humble before YHWH,
the ancient Hebrew name for the God of Abraham;
said to be unpronounceable, though some say it
is pronounced "YaoHu'WaH", "YaHWeH" or Jehovah.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical Muslim jihadists-terrorists
around the globe. This is shaping up to be our
Xian Crusade against Anti-Judeo-Xian militants.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are fighting world war three, and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
For one to be Anti-American is to be Anti-Xian.
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The loving mother MUST be willing to sacrifice
her life to save the life of a child. A father
must be similarly willing to sacrifice himself
to save a child's life. As for first-trimester
abortions, a pregnant woman ultimately decides,
although both mother and father must recognize
that there'll be hell to pay for such iniquity.
Is it as evil as late-term abortion? Maybe not,
but preventing pregnancy is the best way to go.
In other words DON'T put God to a foolish test.
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't respect the sanctity of Family
is Anti-Xian. A True-Xian roundly condemns all
forms of sodomy and homosexuality, and we must
fight against same-sex "marriage" to the death
if need be. We'll NEVER sanction homosexuality.
______________________________________________
False-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is only par-
tially correct. You can reject any part of the
bible which you don't understand or agree with.
Part of it says to love your enemy while other
parts instruct us to punish and kill the enemy.
Just because the bible clearly states that you
can love -AND- kill the enemy, we'll simply ig-
nore the bible verses that we don't agree with.
2) Jesus Christ was an extraordinary man, but was
nevertheless just a man. The "resurrection" of
Jesus is only a metaphor for spiritual healing.
To believe that Jesus or anybody else actually
rose from the dead is preposterous, impossible
and just as ludicrous as Jesus' "virgin birth".
3) Man made "God" in his own image. We came first,
thus "God" is but a figment of our imagination.
There's no illimitable omnipresent, omniscient
and omnipotent conscious creator of the entire
universe anywhere in corporeal existence. What
we call "God" should only be referred to as an
"it", not a "he". But if you want to call it a
"she", then that's okay, since it's "shocking"
to true-Xians who believe in a heavenly father
of the whole universe, one God who is aware of
every atom and molecule, every star and galaxy,
every form of matter, from nothing to infinity.
That is merely absurd to believe in such a God.
4) False-Xians, at least here in America, are sel-
dom very zealous, but we're mostly honest with
those who we trust. We are pretty hard working,
but our patriotism is lukewarm. We like to pro-
test against war no matter what its cause. And
we do NOT want true-Xian values in politics or
science, in law or education. But it's okay if
true-Xians want to worship hidden away from so-
ciety in a church somewhere...just stay out of
public view and stay away from our White House!
Let's dismantle our military, and surrender to
foreign UN control. Return Saddam to Iraq, and
let's bring all of our troops home to stay. We
have no business meddling in foreign countries,
and we're worried about what Anti-Xian foreign
nations think about the United States. If they
hate us, it's strictly the fault of true-Xians
who are giving America such a "bad" name. This
is why we need to ban true-Xians from entering
American law and politics. That's the solution.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical true-Xians around the globe.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are trying to hurt and kill nothing but
innocent civilians. The USA has lied to us and
they lie about Saddam. False-Xians are all for
peace, prosperity, rights, and privileges, but
we reject responsibility and any laws we don't
agree with. Also, let's stop supporting Israel.
Anti-Xians understand True-Xians are the enemy,
those in foreign lands and patriotic Americans.
To be Anti-American is to be a real False-Xian.
6) Late-term, or even partial-birth abortions are
NOT murder! The mother can sacrifice her child
to save her own life. The father can sacrifice
the child to save his own life at any time. As
for first-trimester abortions a pregnant woman,
its father or even the abortion doctor needn't
worry about "sinning", because there's no such
thing. No reason to feel guilty about abortion.
7) The cornerstone of secular society is absolute
tolerance for any sort of behavior--as long as
it doesn't adversely affect me personally. All
forms of sex, including sodomy & homosexuality,
are condoned in the bible. Only true-Xians are
claiming that it is actually sinful or immoral.
There's nothing wrong with same-sex "marriage",
except that it makes true-Xians declare war on
those of us who're willing to tolerate it. The
true-Xians should be quiet. We don't like them
to get involved in law and politics. So let us
teach our children to become false-Xians, lest
they grow up to be true-Xians. That's about it.
Very Truly Yours,
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's Call To Arms For God-Fearing Xian Americans:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4c9bf03a8fb8f8d90bdfc51f3f190ab3@dizum.com
*Homosexual Disease Rampant Among Anti-Xian Homos:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=D2G5U00M37968.7085763889@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Job Description for Criminal Defense Attorneys:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3YKZLSYF38021.8175925926@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Job Description for Scientists:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XSWKT6X38021.2873958333@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's $10,000,000 Reward For Astronomers:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 1:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=72R8L7KE38011.2446412037@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 2:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=C81HWW2F38027.8326851852@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 3:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=KRAXAOOW38036.8795949074@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Interlinear Translation of the Apocalypse:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=N8G8XLYW37986.0680439815@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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"Adivdicator" <Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in
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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
True-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
While we know there were probably minor errors
in copying and translating the bible, its inte-
grity has survived. It's truly the word of God,
and is likely better than 99.99% verbatim what
was originally intended by its ancient authors.
Amen.
2) Jesus Christ is everything and much, much more
than the bible says he was, is and will always
be. Is he truly the son of the almighty God of
of the universe? True-Xians know to answer Yes.
Is Jesus one with God the father? Indeed he is.
Did he die for our sins? God knows that he did.
Is Jesus God? Indeed, you have said that he is.
Amen.
3) There are divine laws of superconscious origin,
meaning God all-knowingly, all-intelligently &
all-presently created the entire universe with
divine purpose infinitely exceeding every mans
ability to fully comprehend it. God is smarter
than we are. True-Xians are humble before YHWH,
the ancient Hebrew name for the God of Abraham;
said to be unpronounceable, though some say it
is pronounced "YaoHu'WaH", "YaHWeH" or Jehovah.
Amen.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
A-Hem...
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical Muslim jihadists-terrorists
around the globe. This is shaping up to be our
Xian Crusade against Anti-Judeo-Xian militants.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are fighting world war three, and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
For one to be Anti-American is to be Anti-Xian.
<more phlegm, coughed up with blood spots>
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The loving mother MUST be willing to sacrifice
her life to save the life of a child. A father
must be similarly willing to sacrifice himself
to save a child's life. As for first-trimester
abortions, a pregnant woman ultimately decides,
although both mother and father must recognize
that there'll be hell to pay for such iniquity.
Is it as evil as late-term abortion? Maybe not,
but preventing pregnancy is the best way to go.
In other words DON'T put God to a foolish test.
Amen. You're thinking again...
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't respect the sanctity of Family
is Anti-Xian. A True-Xian roundly condemns all
forms of sodomy and homosexuality, and we must
fight against same-sex "marriage" to the death
if need be. We'll NEVER sanction homosexuality.
______________________________________________
False-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is only par-
tially correct. You can reject any part of the
bible which you don't understand or agree with.
Part of it says to love your enemy while other
parts instruct us to punish and kill the enemy.
Just because the bible clearly states that you
can love -AND- kill the enemy, we'll simply ig-
nore the bible verses that we don't agree with.
So long as it is in harmony with the wishes of the 'authorities'
in power. It passes both tests. Going over to Europe in the
1940's was truly as righteous cause as can be defined. What is
happening now in Iraq is questionable, by way of example.
2) Jesus Christ was an extraordinary man, but was
nevertheless just a man. The "resurrection" of
Jesus is only a metaphor for spiritual healing.
To believe that Jesus or anybody else actually
rose from the dead is preposterous, impossible
and just as ludicrous as Jesus' "virgin birth".
You're right, He was, and is as much God Himself as much as the
Father Is, always was always will be. He lived, and He died.
Satan wanted him dead, but His Father wanted Him *resurrected*.
He obeyed, and now He is Judge over us all. Jesus, our brother,
gave us the 'eucharist', the 'mass', the partaking of His very
Body to eat, and Blood to drink, actually transformed during
religious ceremony, until He returns. He said it, I believe it.
All of it.
3) Man made "God" in his own image. We came first,
thus "God" is but a figment of our imagination.
There's no illimitable omnipresent, omniscient
and omnipotent conscious creator of the entire
universe anywhere in corporeal existence. What
we call "God" should only be referred to as an
"it", not a "he". But if you want to call it a
"she", then that's okay, since it's "shocking"
to true-Xians who believe in a heavenly father
of the whole universe, one God who is aware of
every atom and molecule, every star and galaxy,
every form of matter, from nothing to infinity.
That is merely absurd to believe in such a God.
I don't think it's important how we conceive of the Father, since
except through Jesus, He is Unknowable. There's no possible way
we can insult Him unless we knew Him in the first place. And
there lies the most terrible rub. And that is by blaspheming the
Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Trinity. Unless you have
already known Him, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, there is NO
possibility of committing that ONE unforgivable sin. But, if you
have experienced Him in your life, and *continue* to disobey Him
while walking upon this earth, and up and until you happen to die
before you give yourself the chance to repent, etc., you're a
'walking dead'. We toy around with our sins so much, I myself as
much as anyone, playing musical chairs with our sins and faith
itself, and it's wrong. Lethally wrong.
My point there is that we can insult the Father and the Son as
much as we want, and it truly will be forgiven as promised, but
unless we didn't have the Holy Spirit to know Who They actually
were in the first place, there's no chance that they 'could' be
insulted. It's when God enters into your life, and you know as
much, that the recording angels truly set their indelible ink to
paper. After that point, we must govern ourselves..accordingly.
So go ahead and call God a woman, He's got broad shoulders, He
doesn't care the least bit what you call Him, I would suspect.
Just beware of what you call Him *after* He sends His Throne
Partner, the Holy Spirit. After that, you have no excuse, or
recourse, but to *obey*, and understand, the best you possibly
can. And it will be by what lies in your heart, not your mind,
that you will be judged upon-- make no mistake. Either you love
Him and his creation, your neighbours, both, or you do not, by
hating your neighbours, you necessarily betray your love for God.
There is no compromise in that ONE Prime Directive as a
Christian, as to handle others in this world. Sometimes we become
certain things, more lowly than we ought to be, in order to reach
those whom the Lord continually, and obviously put 'in your face'
at any given time, and you never know what will come of it.
Perhaps we need to continually wear sunglasses with WWJD
emblazoned on them to get the picture. The challenge and the race
never ends, ever. Even in Heaven, I would imagine, in the pursuit
to become as God-like as we can, we would still have so much to
learn, which He encourages always, but only in our sense of
humility, not pride. God-like in every single way but His 'power'
and ability to influence others with said abilities.
I have too much beer, and some pizza. I must sleep now.
4) False-Xians, at least here in America, are sel-
dom very zealous, but we're mostly honest with
those who we trust. We are pretty hard working,
but our patriotism is lukewarm. We like to pro-
test against war no matter what its cause. And
we do NOT want true-Xian values in politics or
science, in law or education. But it's okay if
true-Xians want to worship hidden away from so-
ciety in a church somewhere...just stay out of
public view and stay away from our White House!
Let's dismantle our military, and surrender to
foreign UN control. Return Saddam to Iraq, and
let's bring all of our troops home to stay. We
have no business meddling in foreign countries,
and we're worried about what Anti-Xian foreign
nations think about the United States. If they
hate us, it's strictly the fault of true-Xians
who are giving America such a "bad" name. This
is why we need to ban true-Xians from entering
American law and politics. That's the solution.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical true-Xians around the globe.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are trying to hurt and kill nothing but
innocent civilians. The USA has lied to us and
they lie about Saddam. False-Xians are all for
peace, prosperity, rights, and privileges, but
we reject responsibility and any laws we don't
agree with. Also, let's stop supporting Israel.
Anti-Xians understand True-Xians are the enemy,
those in foreign lands and patriotic Americans.
To be Anti-American is to be a real False-Xian.
6) Late-term, or even partial-birth abortions are
NOT murder! The mother can sacrifice her child
to save her own life. The father can sacrifice
the child to save his own life at any time. As
for first-trimester abortions a pregnant woman,
its father or even the abortion doctor needn't
worry about "sinning", because there's no such
thing. No reason to feel guilty about abortion.
7) The cornerstone of secular society is absolute
tolerance for any sort of behavior--as long as
it doesn't adversely affect me personally. All
forms of sex, including sodomy & homosexuality,
are condoned in the bible. Only true-Xians are
claiming that it is actually sinful or immoral.
There's nothing wrong with same-sex "marriage",
except that it makes true-Xians declare war on
those of us who're willing to tolerate it. The
true-Xians should be quiet. We don't like them
to get involved in law and politics. So let us
teach our children to become false-Xians, lest
they grow up to be true-Xians. That's about it.
Very Truly Yours,
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's Call To Arms For God-Fearing Xian Americans:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4c9bf03a8fb8f8d90bdfc51f3f190ab3@dizum.com
*Homosexual Disease Rampant Among Anti-Xian Homos:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=D2G5U00M37968.7085763889@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Job Description for Criminal Defense Attorneys:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3YKZLSYF38021.8175925926@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Job Description for Scientists:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3XSWKT6X38021.2873958333@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's $10,000,000 Reward For Astronomers:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ZZ5B1I2037855.1969907407@Gilgamesh-frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 1:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=72R8L7KE38011.2446412037@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 2:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=C81HWW2F38027.8326851852@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Concise Commentary on the Apocalypse Chapter 3:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=KRAXAOOW38036.8795949074@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Interlinear Translation of the Apocalypse:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=N8G8XLYW37986.0680439815@Gilgamesh-Frog.org
*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5YTK57VH37948.6355092593@Gilgamesh-frog.org
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23 Feb 2004 06:37:06 PM |
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"Adivdicator" <Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in message
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Ahhh .. numb nuts .. you cross posted to a firearms discussion group .. what
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23 Feb 2004 05:28:52 PM |
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My Darling Professor Min,
That was such a moving and robust post I
sent a copy of it to each of the following
for their review and action:
Rev. Billy Graham
Rev. Pat Roberts
Rev. Wally Goldman
Rev. Jerry Farwell
Rev.Jim Baker
and finally...the entire original
Cockettes.
The Psychedelick Pope
Saint Isidore of Laytonville
^Ö^ Patron Saint of the Internet ^Ö^
°°^Ö^ °°
http://apple2.org.za/gswv/me
AOXOMOXOA and ENESSA QUA ONNICA
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23 Feb 2004 06:10:12 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2004 23:47:42 +0100, Adivdicator
<Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote:
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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
With all due respect to Mr. Min, one has to ask: Who died and made him
Pope? Mind you, I'm not a Christian at all, but who, unless he is an
actual prophet, which Min does not claim to be here, has the right to
define Christianity for other Christians?
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
Very convenient belief! It relieves you from having to explain
inconsistancies.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
Jesus said: Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's and give to God that
which is God's. From my own relatively innocent reading of the NT I
gather that Jesus would not encourage people to follow an illegitimate
or corrupt government. Perhaps you have "Christians" and "Republican"
mixed up.
5) . . . . and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
LOL. Or it could just be about the oil. 8^)
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
That's the spririt! Dissent, internal or external, will not be
tolerated.
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The message here keeps changing. Before 1980 the anti-abortion forces
in the US were mostly Roman Catholic. During the Reagan campaign it
was decided that life begins where the sperm meets the egg and
abortion was exploited as an issue to bring Christians into the GOP
(remember, in 1976 they had voted for Carter). At that time, incest,
rape or a threat to the health of the mother were allowed as
exceptions. After a few years these exceptions were eliminated,
figuring even a child conceived or rape or incest was human--and
besides if there were exceptions at all they would be up to the woman
and her doctor to decide, not the government.
Now Christians seem to have fallen back to the late-term abortion.
That ban is easier to pass but the laws are deliberately written so
vaguely as to be found unconstitutional.
I ask Christian friends of mine to consider a hypothetical situation.
If your wife was pregnant and relatively late in her pregnancy she
found that the child she was carrying was so severely defective that
it couldn't live after birth for more than a few hours, and by bearing
the child she might damage her reproductive system to the point that
she could have no more children, would you allow a late -term abortion
in that case? They all say they would. Late term abortions are
extremely rare to begin with, and nearly all of them are performed in
just such dire circumstances.
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't respect the sanctity of Family
is Anti-Xian. A True-Xian roundly condemns all
forms of sodomy and homosexuality, and we must
fight against same-sex "marriage" to the death
if need be. We'll NEVER sanction homosexuality.
Would you like to explain to me how allowing gay people to live
together and form civil partnerships threatens the whole institution
of marriage and family?
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False-Xians believe:
One of the things I find annoying about the Right Wing is that they
never allow those with whom they disagree to have a say, instead they
tell you themselves what those who disagree with them think.
If you really want to know that False Christians believe--or
non-Christians for that matter--ask one!
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23 Feb 2004 06:43:13 PM |
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So why state the obvious? That's like the pope saying
he's Catholic, or a bear saying he shits in the woods,
or like you saying you're a fudge-packin peter-puffin
Anti-Xian diseased maggot who enjoys felching gerbils
and molesting innocent little boys for fun and profit.
You and your butt-buddy Wacko-Jackoff can take a hike.
I write for Xians, not for fudge-packin perverts like
you. Why don't you pick out some more gerbils down at
your local pet store? Them gerbils breed like rabbits,
thank God. They can't keep in stock with you around ;)
"Blazing Laser" trolled:
I'm not a Christian (duh?)
"I LOVE children"
-Michael Jackson
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23 Feb 2004 07:00:57 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 16:10:12 -0800, Blazing Laser <blazinglaser@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2004 23:47:42 +0100, Adivdicator
<Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote:
There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
With all due respect to Mr. Min, one has to ask: Who died and made him
Pope? Mind you, I'm not a Christian at all, but who, unless he is an
actual prophet, which Min does not claim to be here, has the right to
define Christianity for other Christians?
Most so-called 'Christians' basically ignore everything Jesus said and
use the Old Testament as their authority, which isn't even a Christian
document, and against the teachings of Jesus, who said that most of the
Old Law was no more with His coming.
Even when they wander to the New Testament, they mostly ignore the Gospels,
where some of the words of Jesus can be found, and focus on Paul and John
(the Revelations).
And their alleged 'Christianity' is mostly lip-service anyway: Do they
go to their priest or just pray when they are sick?
No. They go to healers that think their faith is hogwash, as a rule.
Americans worship money and technology. Jesus threw the money-changers
from the temple and certainly would have thrown out anyone trying to
teach that technology (sophisticated toolmaking) was the path to salvation.
Americans are Economic Fundamentalists, and such people are every bit as
nasty as Moslem Fundamentalists.
Witness their behavior in the world....WASPS have killed one hell of a lot
more Moslems than the other way around. And repeatedly invade their
countries.
AC
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| User: "Don Staples" |
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23 Feb 2004 07:20:24 PM |
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Trim your damn groups, this has nothing to do with guns.
"Blazing Laser" <blazinglaser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3g4l3057vri6j9b4n7vuscict34b3g7hhf@4ax.com...
On 23 Feb 2004 23:47:42 +0100, Adivdicator
<Adivdicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote:
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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
With all due respect to Mr. Min, one has to ask: Who died and made him
Pope? Mind you, I'm not a Christian at all, but who, unless he is an
actual prophet, which Min does not claim to be here, has the right to
define Christianity for other Christians?
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
Very convenient belief! It relieves you from having to explain
inconsistancies.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
Jesus said: Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's and give to God that
which is God's. From my own relatively innocent reading of the NT I
gather that Jesus would not encourage people to follow an illegitimate
or corrupt government. Perhaps you have "Christians" and "Republican"
mixed up.
5) . . . . and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
LOL. Or it could just be about the oil. 8^)
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
That's the spririt! Dissent, internal or external, will not be
tolerated.
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The message here keeps changing. Before 1980 the anti-abortion forces
in the US were mostly Roman Catholic. During the Reagan campaign it
was decided that life begins where the sperm meets the egg and
abortion was exploited as an issue to bring Christians into the GOP
(remember, in 1976 they had voted for Carter). At that time, incest,
rape or a threat to the health of the mother were allowed as
exceptions. After a few years these exceptions were eliminated,
figuring even a child conceived or rape or incest was human--and
besides if there were exceptions at all they would be up to the woman
and her doctor to decide, not the government.
Now Christians seem to have fallen back to the late-term abortion.
That ban is easier to pass but the laws are deliberately written so
vaguely as to be found unconstitutional.
I ask Christian friends of mine to consider a hypothetical situation.
If your wife was pregnant and relatively late in her pregnancy she
found that the child she was carrying was so severely defective that
it couldn't live after birth for more than a few hours, and by bearing
the child she might damage her reproductive system to the point that
she could have no more children, would you allow a late -term abortion
in that case? They all say they would. Late term abortions are
extremely rare to begin with, and nearly all of them are performed in
just such dire circumstances.
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't respect the sanctity of Family
is Anti-Xian. A True-Xian roundly condemns all
forms of sodomy and homosexuality, and we must
fight against same-sex "marriage" to the death
if need be. We'll NEVER sanction homosexuality.
Would you like to explain to me how allowing gay people to live
together and form civil partnerships threatens the whole institution
of marriage and family?
______________________________________________
False-Xians believe:
One of the things I find annoying about the Right Wing is that they
never allow those with whom they disagree to have a say, instead they
tell you themselves what those who disagree with them think.
If you really want to know that False Christians believe--or
non-Christians for that matter--ask one!
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| User: "Alan Connor" |
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| Title: Re: True-Xians vs. False-Xians - Checklist |
23 Feb 2004 09:02:47 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:20:24 -0600, Don Staples <dstaples@livingston.net> wrote:
Trim your damn groups, this has nothing to do with guns.
Sure it does. Most gundamentalists also call themselves 'Christians' and
can justify their violence, latent or real, with incredibly amusing
tortured logic involving carefully selected quotes from Scripture taken
completely out of context.
They have so much power (and are such phonies) that they have actually
managed to edit the Bible:
It used to say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."
Now it sayss "Thou Shalt Not Murder."
And who decides the difference? Why THEY do. Fancy that. What a surprise.
And Patriots, the other big faction in the gundamentalist cult, are always
going on about "God and Country" and believe that God is on their side
because Americans are God's Chosen People, and for them, He suspends all
of His Commandments.
Of course, these "Christians" avoid the teachings of Jesus like the plague.
AC
--
I reserve the right to keep and arm bears
What's the difference between a thrown rock and a shot bullet?
None, really. They are both the tools of primitive savages.
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| User: "stogiestork" |
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| Title: Re: True-Xians vs. False-Xians - Checklist |
23 Feb 2004 09:27:46 PM |
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Alan Connor wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:20:24 -0600, Don Staples <dstaples@livingston.net>
wrote:
Trim your damn groups, this has nothing to do with guns.
Sure it does. Most gundamentalists also call themselves 'Christians' and
can justify their violence, latent or real, with incredibly amusing
tortured logic involving carefully selected quotes from Scripture taken
completely out of context.
They have so much power (and are such phonies) that they have actually
managed to edit the Bible:
It used to say "Thou Shalt Not Kill."
Now it sayss "Thou Shalt Not Murder."
And who decides the difference? Why THEY do. Fancy that. What a surprise.
And Patriots, the other big faction in the gundamentalist cult, are always
going on about "God and Country" and believe that God is on their side
because Americans are God's Chosen People, and for them, He suspends all
of His Commandments.
Of course, these "Christians" avoid the teachings of Jesus like the
plague.
AC
allan has a new buzzword.
--
Known forces of Evil:
Chas Sockpuppet Army
The Witches
The Pest Horde
Spinics United
The Speilberg Conspiracy
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