"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message

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http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Thank you for that link. Excellent article that all fans of Michael
Moore (I am NOT one!) should read

Why? it's as much propaganda as Moore's film. It's like saying "All fans of
Bush should watch Moore's movie!" They're unlikely too, and they won't be
swayed by it if they did.

...with an open mind, of course!

Only way to approach anything.. though of course you want to be careful your
mind isn't so your brain falls out..

TW (not a fan of Bush or Moore)

"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net> wrote in message

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http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Thank you for that link. Excellent article that all fans of Michael
Moore (I am NOT one!) should read

Why? it's as much propaganda as Moore's film.

J.

Just proves what I have said about this fat punk all along.

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Dr. Blunt a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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dreamwalker a écrit:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

If Michael Moore had had his way, Slobodan Milosevic would still be

the

big man

in a starved and tyrannical Serbia. Bosnia and Kosovo would have been

cleansed

and annexed. If Michael Moore had been listened to, Afghanistan would

still be

under Taliban rule, and Kuwait would have remained part of Iraq. And

Iraq itself

would still be the personal property of a psychopathic crime family,

bargaining

covertly with the slave state of North Korea for WMD. You might hope

that a

retrospective awareness of this kind would induce a little modesty. To

the

contrary, it is employed to pump air into one of the great sagging

blimps of our

sorry, mediocre, celeb-rotten culture. Rock the vote, indeed.

J.

If Jean Guernon has his fantasies fulfilled, the USA will continue to

be

the predominant hegemonious power on the planet, militarily assaulting
nations for feigned humanitarian and self-defensive motives, while
secretly carrying out an agenda of right-wing Xtian fanatics to make

as

much wealth as humanly possible off Third World cheap labor and lower
operating costs.

If Jean Guernon has his dreams realized, the right of

self-determination

of sovereign peoples will end--to be replaced with a self-righteous,
illegal and immoral interference, whether through economic sanctions

or

military invasions and occupations, or both.
Behind this desire, is the mistaken belief that the USA is a vastly
superior moral authority and has the right to take unilateral actions
against the world community represented by the UN. Behind this desire

for

world domination, is the mistaken belief that the USA is not lead by a
horribly corrupted authority, which lies, schemes, and mass murders to
attain its egocentric goal.
.
If Jean Guernon has his fantasies converted to reality, the right of
oppressed people to throw off any form of tyranny, and to make the
ultimate sacrifice to gain more control over their personal lives,

more

freedoms and rights, can only be exercised with the might of the USA
military and/or economic sanctions (which usually hurt the common

people

more than their leaderships).

If Jean Guernon has his way, ultimately, the USA would become a clone

of

other (failed) domineering empires, be hated and feared, increasingly
attacked, and because of the increased confrontations, have its own
freedoms and rights severely compromised by its own authority for the
propagandized reason of increased security to protect itself.

If Jean Guernon's sick world came into existence, we'd have to take

our

places with other tyrannical, crazy notables, such as Rome, Napoleonic
Europe, Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, etc. After that occurs, our
"sorry, mediocre, celeb-rotten culture" will "advance" to a form of
tyrannical theocracy, with military, police and security ape-asses

cruelly

enforcing it.

Jean Guernon is literally insane, suffering from multiple psychoses,
including delusions of grandeur and paranoia. He needs to seek
professional help immediately and I call on all concerned to urge Jean

to

submit to a two-week hospital evaluation as a first step towards the

road

to recovery. With our guidance and support, poor Guernon may have a
chance to re-enter the world of the relatively sane.
Hee, hee, hee....
Dr. Blunt ----------------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since

1998.

You of course have nothing to do with the medical profession, you are an
anti-American anti-semite fraud who merely parasite NG where your sorry

*****

doesn't belong just to spread lies, deceit, and pro-terrorist

propaganda.

So what you say I think or do is really irrelevant given that you make

it all

up. I must say that your actual perception that I would make a big

brother world

shows one thing, how effective I am against the lies that you

anti-western

idiots promote. To make up an elaborate affair, and here to make up

"news", and

now to make a very elaborate psychological demonstration, albeit all

*****,

just for little "moi", is really the proof that I do make a difference

and get

through to people and make them see that you little trolls are frauds.

I could indeed tell you that I am merely an exegete who interprets a

prophet who

conveys what God Almighty revealed of the future... But what would that

do for

you who come on this NG disrespecting it as if it was one of your own

filthy

lies NG? You would turn it around...

Yes, the best world exegetes will tell you that Nostradamus (4,50) does

tell us

that the West reigns supreme, that they US holds the monarchy of heaven

and

earth right now (as the quatrain goes on to quote the event of the G-7

becoming

the G-8 when the Asian markets fell). But this is stuff that people who

belong

on this NG know do not come from exegetes themselves, but from higher

up. We

don't make up the world we want, we speak of the world that is, or else

those

who don't, don't get result(s).

No one convince anyone who is a true exegete by using the word of the

Seer and

making up stuff. This is a process that has been going on for half a

millennium,

and it is impossible to fool those who do belong here that have

dedicated their

lives to the Seer's truly prophetic work.

What would a fraud like you know about this NG? Better try to troll some

other

NG where you are not debunked to the bone the minute you open your

filthy lying

mouth. Here you only make the point that people like you are the main

part of

the totalitarianism that you pretend to denounce, which is yours in

fact, and is

really Anarchy/Islamic Totalitarianism.

You fool no one here. But there are many who are debunked by your

extreme actions.

J.

I find it highly amusing, this argument you present to me. It's been
presented repeatedly by you for years to many who venture into this snake
pit, "your" NG.

You think totalitarianism is the goal of the Left, while the Left thinks
its the goal of the Right. Welcome to irony.

I'll go one step up. It's the intrinsic nature of human beings to want to
impose their particular (and often peculiar) "blueprint" on the reality
around them, the globe and all its diverse cultures.

I've discovered that prophecy is just another tool to impose their favored
"blueprint" on the destiny of nations and their reality. Its' a highly
interpretative swamp of poetry and prose, constantly being adjusted,
re-interpreted, to fit any author's preconceptions about the world they
will face in the future. Nostradamus doesn't deliver the world as it is,
but as his quatrains are subjectively interpreted. They are then revised
to suit one's own taste, or just to sell another book.

If I truly believed, as you seemingly do, that this world faced an
apocalyptic near-future, with much of the population killed, [snip]

If Jean Guernon has his fantasies fulfilled, the USA will continue to

be

the predominant hegemonious power on the planet, militarily assaulting
nations for feigned humanitarian and self-defensive motives, while
secretly carrying out an agenda of right-wing Xtian fanatics to make

as

much wealth as humanly possible off Third World cheap labor and lower
operating costs.

If Jean Guernon has his dreams realized, the right of

self-determination

of sovereign peoples will end--to be replaced with a self-righteous,
illegal and immoral interference, whether through economic sanctions

or

military invasions and occupations, or both.
Behind this desire, is the mistaken belief that the USA is a vastly
superior moral authority and has the right to take unilateral actions
against the world community represented by the UN. Behind this desire

for

world domination, is the mistaken belief that the USA is not lead by a
horribly corrupted authority, which lies, schemes, and mass murders to
attain its egocentric goal.
.
If Jean Guernon has his fantasies converted to reality, the right of
oppressed people to throw off any form of tyranny, and to make the
ultimate sacrifice to gain more control over their personal lives,

more

freedoms and rights, can only be exercised with the might of the USA
military and/or economic sanctions (which usually hurt the common

people

more than their leaderships).

If Jean Guernon has his way, ultimately, the USA would become a clone

of

other (failed) domineering empires, be hated and feared, increasingly
attacked, and because of the increased confrontations, have its own
freedoms and rights severely compromised by its own authority for the
propagandized reason of increased security to protect itself.

If Jean Guernon's sick world came into existence, we'd have to take

our

places with other tyrannical, crazy notables, such as Rome, Napoleonic
Europe, Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, etc. After that occurs, our
"sorry, mediocre, celeb-rotten culture" will "advance" to a form of
tyrannical theocracy, with military, police and security ape-asses

cruelly

enforcing it.

Jean Guernon is literally insane, suffering from multiple psychoses,
including delusions of grandeur and paranoia. He needs to seek
professional help immediately and I call on all concerned to urge Jean

to

submit to a two-week hospital evaluation as a first step towards the

road

to recovery. With our guidance and support, poor Guernon may have a
chance to re-enter the world of the relatively sane.
Hee, hee, hee....
Dr. Blunt ----------------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since

1998.

You of course have nothing to do with the medical profession, you are an
anti-American anti-semite fraud who merely parasite NG where your sorry

*****

doesn't belong just to spread lies, deceit, and pro-terrorist

propaganda.

So what you say I think or do is really irrelevant given that you make

it all

up. I must say that your actual perception that I would make a big

brother world

shows one thing, how effective I am against the lies that you

anti-western

idiots promote. To make up an elaborate affair, and here to make up

"news", and

now to make a very elaborate psychological demonstration, albeit all

*****,

just for little "moi", is really the proof that I do make a difference

and get

through to people and make them see that you little trolls are frauds.

I could indeed tell you that I am merely an exegete who interprets a

prophet who

conveys what God Almighty revealed of the future... But what would that

do for

you who come on this NG disrespecting it as if it was one of your own

filthy

lies NG? You would turn it around...

Yes, the best world exegetes will tell you that Nostradamus (4,50) does

tell us

that the West reigns supreme, that they US holds the monarchy of heaven

and

earth right now (as the quatrain goes on to quote the event of the G-7

becoming

the G-8 when the Asian markets fell). But this is stuff that people who

belong

on this NG know do not come from exegetes themselves, but from higher

up. We

don't make up the world we want, we speak of the world that is, or else

those

who don't, don't get result(s).

No one convince anyone who is a true exegete by using the word of the

Seer and

making up stuff. This is a process that has been going on for half a

millennium,

and it is impossible to fool those who do belong here that have

dedicated their

lives to the Seer's truly prophetic work.

What would a fraud like you know about this NG? Better try to troll some

other

NG where you are not debunked to the bone the minute you open your

filthy lying

mouth. Here you only make the point that people like you are the main

part of

the totalitarianism that you pretend to denounce, which is yours in

fact, and is

really Anarchy/Islamic Totalitarianism.

You fool no one here. But there are many who are debunked by your

extreme actions.

J.

I find it highly amusing, this argument you present to me. It's been
presented repeatedly by you for years to many who venture into this snake
pit, "your" NG.

You think totalitarianism is the goal of the Left, while the Left thinks
its the goal of the Right. Welcome to irony.

I'll go one step up. It's the intrinsic nature of human beings to want to
impose their particular (and often peculiar) "blueprint" on the reality
around them, the globe and all its diverse cultures.

I've discovered that prophecy is just another tool to impose their favored
"blueprint" on the destiny of nations and their reality. Its' a highly
interpretative swamp of poetry and prose, constantly being adjusted,
re-interpreted, to fit any author's preconceptions about the world they
will face in the future. Nostradamus doesn't deliver the world as it is,
but as his quatrains are subjectively interpreted. They are then revised
to suit one's own taste, or just to sell another book.

If I truly believed, as you seemingly do, that this world faced an
apocalyptic near-future, with much of the population killed, and the
reappearance of Jesus to spiritually unite humanity into one glowing glob
of goodness for a millenium, then I honestly wouldn't be so damned
concerned about the day-to-day geopolitics with which you're so obviously
obsessed. I'd say the hell with it, and let the prophecies do their
transformational work. I wouldn't be hammering the hell out of liberals,
calling anyone who disagrees with you ugly names, hypocritically accusing
folks of lying and chicanery here, nor would I especially make quick
assessments of character, when your abusive behavior towards posters here
seems to be a self-enjoyable "trademark" that affords you "popularity."

If anyone is seeking "fame," this little NG would be a *****-poor place to
start for significant results. I do not seek notoriety, fella. That's why
I don't use my real name, and keep changing alias, which is a familiar
practice in chat groups. The egocentric, egomaniac features of your
personality are bolstered by the continual use of your real name, or at
least your published name. I doubt that you'd want to change names for
fear of losing your "status."

I make this a point because egomania is common among those who entertain
the public, It is a mainstay of writers, actors, artists, etc. Your
egomania doesn't have to be analyzed by a medical authority. It is clearly
projected by you every day here. And the above statements congratulating
yourself for accomplishing something extraordinary, is more evidence
you're a megalomaniac, albeit dwelling in smaller quarters.

Illusions of self-importance pours out of you every day here, but in a
huge ocean of chat groups, it hardly giving you widespread notoriety..
Nostradamus fans make up a small amount of the larger interest in Biblical
prophecy, and other religious doctrinal prophecy.

You are quite incorrect if you think I spend my time solely here. I'm in
lots of other groups under different aliases and have been for years. If I
wanted notoreity, I'd go elsewhere where there's more opportunities and
I'd certainly use my real name for a genuine big ego booster!

Don't need much ego massage, fella, but you certainly do. All I have to do
is post a satiric piece here that has you as its subject, and it draws a
lot of smoke and fire from you. I do this only to reinforce what is
already generally known by most posters here--
YOU AN *****, JEAN!

And if it wasn't for those "contemptible" little annoyances like me, what
else would you be using your time and energy on? Obviously, not responding
to "wacko" posts would be a logical step in avoiding getting into running
battles. But, that's part of your modus operandi. You feed off the
negativity thrown at you. And that part of you that can't admit it, is the
part that's twisted.
Hee, hee, hee...(annoying isn't it?)...
Dr. Blunt ----------------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.