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tw wrote:
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Note due to google site down ( Where I'm at) I had to reply in a
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of
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From: Tom (parris_k@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: I take it Mikey and Tony have given up on TWA800?
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Date: 2005-03-22 00:49:31 PST
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So which thread did I run away from then Mikey?
the original thread:
Nope
Yep...
Ahh. .you lie again, unsurprisingly. Here it is:
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookofl...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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tw wrote:
I also remember the State department saying that they thought
10
stingers were smuggled into the country across the Mexican
boarder -
THIS WAS about a week before the fatal F800 episode.
Possibly they
were leftovers from Afghanistan/Russia war.
Michael, TWA800 was 14 miles off shore at 13,700 feet. There is
NO WAY
a
stinger fired from the shore coudl have got anywhere near it.
It woudl
be an
incredible flujke if someone stood in a boat directly
underneath
TWA800
could hit it.
According the the FBI the missile range was plausible.
"""" begin TW: Nope,. or do you have a cite? The FBI TREATED it as
a
missile attack
from the beginning, and coached the witnesses accordingly.
Of course, what the witnesses described was not any known MANPAD
missile because every witness who mentions a "flare", "streak of
light" etc says they saw it rise, then come down as a fireball.
Now,
WE KNOW TWA800 was at 13,700 feet, and in order for what teh
witnesses
saw to have been a missile, itwoul have to have been a missile in
boost at 13,700 feet. Only very big missiles are still in boost
(i.e.
produceing a "flare" or "streak of light" at that altitude.
Hence, it was not a stinger. Or do you have a rational argument
against that?
///TW
Also, EXPLAIN the * graph below.
""""Why? It's from a KOOKSITE. But anyway - the FBI though it was a
missile from day one - that's why they wer involved, you see. What
that "graph" is, is an attempt to plot possible missile engagements
zones ON THE SEA! NOT from the land."""--tw
Are you going to tell that for a few
minuets, that hundred + of people whom didn't know each other and
never
meet even afterwards all made up simultaneously eye witnessed-
stories
to something that looked like missiles that shot down the plane?
"""Most peope have never seen a missile launch, therfore they don't
knwo
what it looks like. I believe they saw what they saw, the trouble
is,
as I have been patiently trying to explain to you for a while now,
is
that what they saw is not consistent with any missile attack other
than by a very large missile requiring a very large launch platfom
which would produce a launch event SEVERAL TIMES more obvious than
the
flight of the missile itself."""-TW [ NOTE see conclusions]
I have
seen some of the people testify on video and their eyes showed
horror
of their remembrance. This was not a plane that just blew it self
up
out of the sky.
""""Unfortunately, that's exactly what it is. That you choose to
not
believe this because you'd rather blame Clinton puts you firmly in
teh
same camp as Zal and his WTC kooks.'''-tw
FBI: possible missle launch zone 5
http://twa800.com/dredge/launchzone.gif
http://twa800.com/dredge/search.gif
Also according the report
""The kook report..""--TW
the some 'other FBI' people lied about stuff.
Why would they lie?
""""Again, what teh ***** do the FBI have to do with accident
investigations? It was the NTSB who examined the wreckage, foudn no
evidence of a missile strike, identified where the airframe failed
after the initail explosion etc etc."""--TW
When you overlay the FBI trawling area of 2.7 NM, (gif format),
to
recover parts of the aircraft and on the larger Search Area
Diagram you
can clearly see the purpose of the trawling effort was not bodies
as
claimed by the NTSB and FBI. It was focused only on the 2.7 NM
radius
of a possible MANPADS missile. Most of the search area was north
and
west of the flight path, areas where there was no expected .....
""As I said, the FBI were working on the probability of it being a
missile, hence they looked for evidence for it. One the wreckage
had
been recovered, however, ot became obvious it wasn't a missile, due
to
the lack of shrapnel damage."""--TW
The China Lake Naval Warfare Center report on the possibility of
a
MANPADS missile impact is inconclusive with respect to whether or
not a
shoulder-fired missile could have penetrated the wing tank
adjacent to
the CWT and exploded in the fuel. However, all of the damage to
the
left wing and left CWT side wall is consistent with this type of
impact.
"""That is an interpretation from a kook site. Same as Zak and his
WTC
*****..."""--TW
Nope his is garbage stuff.
It is, no different from the TWA 800 "It was a clinton coverup" kook
screed..
A Thermal Imaging photograph provided by military experts shows
that a
MANPADS missile would guide on the three Air Packs located
directly
below the Center Fuel Tank.
""That is an interpretation from a kook site. Same as Zak and his
WTC
*****..."" --Nope you cannot refute this. ;) Are ya a broken
record?
Are you?
I know I'm not a terrorist supporting ***** like ya - you Al ' Qaeda
loving mutha facka.
Are you sniffing glue`, Mikey?
Go ahead ask me to back it - there are so many of your posts that
affirm this that you cannot deny this.
I see you are bringing your masochist tendencies to the newsgroup (As
well as trying as hard as your tiny brain will allow to defelct from
the issue you are being battered on)
Yep, please provide cites where I express support for Al Qaida. ¨
Now, bakc to the issue at hand. Those quotes you supplied from
Donaldson's Kook-site were his own interpretation of the data - whic
puts it in exactly the same league as Zak's "WTC was brought down by
explosives" *****.
The Stinger Man Portable Air Defense System (MANPADS) is
representative
of many such systems available to terrorists groups.
"""Hello, Mikey?! It has a ceiling of 10,000 feet, TWA800 was at
13,700
feet, Stingers aren't in boost at 13,700 feet, what the
eyewitnesses
kooks like you always bang on about saw is NOT CONSISTENT WITH A
MANPAD MISSILE. How many mroe times?"""--TW
Check out triangulation of witnesses to the missile[s]:
"""That is an interpretation from a kook site. Same as Zak and his
WTC
*****... -TW
THREE TIMES
Well it's true you see. The "evidence" yo uare presenting is an
INTERPRETATION of teh evidence done by kooks.
That statement came from a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
I take it you can't argue with the actual evidence, which is why you
you have chosen the tactic of telling outrageous, easily refutable
lies about me?
Exactly teh same as Zak*s
"evidence" about the WTC:
NOTE: The below link is only a small sample of the information
collected from hundreds of witnesses
"""That is an interpretation from a kook site. Same as Zak and his
WTC
*****...""""
Nope. iT is well documented.
So find another source apart from the kook site. Read the ACTUAL
witness
statemenst at www.ntsb.gov
Only five witnesses are used as I debunked on one of your many run-away
threads.
You couldn't debunk your way out of wet tuissue paper, Mikey. THe
witnesses I quoted proved Tony's claim that "no witness said the
"flare" was at the same height as TWA800" to be false. In fact, I only
needed ONE witness to prove his statement wrong..
Lets recap who you are:
Ahh.. deflecting again, I see.
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
...and Mikey is a liar.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
What?
I know you called the history channel a
kook site too. But this is your opinion, just like no one sues over
a
terrorist attack in the US as you state below.
I said an AIRLINE can't be sued because terrorists shot their plane
down. At
least TRY and stay honest.
That is what you said: I just reposted it in full!
No, you claimed I said "no one sues over a terrorist attack", which is
not the same thing, Mikey.
can't get more
honest than that?;)
Apparently you can't get honest at all.
http://twa800.com/images/triangulation_update.gif
you said:
""read the trhead, I point out several time staht the
FBO
WERE - 'TW' ""
That is a KOOK sentence if I ever saw one ;)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.prophecies.nostradamus/msg/9accc5037
e5005fd?dmode=source
Againm, That is a KOOK sentence if I ever saw one ;)
"Againm"`! LOL. Nice dodge, BTW.
*
107 witnesses on 4 aircraft, 19 boats, and 31 locations ashore.
They
were located in a 360=B0 circle around the missile engagement.
Their
live testimony alone will prove the aircraft was shot down. This
is why
the Justice Department has kept air crash investigators away from
witnesses for 2 1/2 years and also one reason they are conducting
a
malicious show-trial prosecution of author and outside
investigator
James Sanders and his wife. We now believe there is sufficient
evidence
for a Grand Jury to bring indictments for a cover-up of the
Felony
Murder of 230 innocent people.
Kook site yeah? So these are not the facts.
Correct.
Lets recap who you are again:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
For a start, he uses the term "missile engagement"
save it for the "FBO" you peice of crap! ;)
It's easy to see when youäve been soundly beaten in an argument, isn't
it?
I like how you posted only
five or so witnesses who took the stand and the rest were purposely
not called.
I posted five witnesse who contradicted Tony's claim that the "flare"
wasn't
at the same height as the aircraft.
No you didn't
It was three, but even just ONE woudl still have proven Tony's claim
that "nobody said the flare was at teh same height as teh aircraft"
was false
I posted ALL the wits. from the invest. that had anything
to do with regards to missile's seen.
No you didn't, you posted Donaldson's kooky interpretations of what
they saw. The witness statements can be found here:
http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/exhibits/Ex_4B.pdf
The invest. never called the
other 100s -WHY? - what did they use about five potential wits -
that's all? That was my point. That too me is not a complete invest. It
is called a cover up.
...I'd rather trust the FBI than a kook like you, pissboy.
Again that is my whole point in all of this!!!
So, you believe TWA800 was shot down by a missile because there were a
load of eyewitnesse (who didn't say it was shot down by a missile)
weren't called to the NTSB investigation, even though teh NTSB
investigation found no evidence of missile damage on the airframe and
identified the probable igntion source for the CWT explosion. Right?
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
Yes this is relevent
How?!
TRY and keep up, slowboy..
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
This is a fact and not a kook *****, but heah, your a kook
What the...?
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
;)
Note: Sounds like money issues to me. Billions in cash pay-outs
not a
desired thing by the government.
"""""BWAHAHAHAHAHA! YOu fucking utter, total incredible idiot. If
it
WAS a
terrorist attack, who woudl get sued? No one, """" -Tw
Did people sue over 9/11? Does this mean you made the " fucking
utter,
total incredible idiot" kook medal, yet again, eh?
NOw listen very carefully, you *****-swigging dullard
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
- which scenario would
leave TWA800 more liable to damages?
1) A random terrorist attack against their aircraft
2) A crash caused by insufficient maintenance/bad operating practice.
Think reaaaaaall hard mikey.
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
I see the question was too hard for your little brain..
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
conclusions: conclusions: conclusions: conclusions
FBI vs. tw:
fact 1: Day one FBI and other agencies begin to look for missile
parts,
Correct
they cite reasons that are plausable for the range within the
debris field:
Do you have such a cite? It was in range if it had been fired withing
range.
No answer Mikey?
fact 2: tw laughs at the FBI while calling them the FBO and tw
seems
to say he is the authority brain power that determines all.
That's an opinion, not a fact.
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
"Which would [sic] have been 14 miles away and 13,700 feet lower
than
TWA 800.
That must have been one hell of a big MANPAD! LOL -Kooky TW" (
original thread)
Indeed. What MANPADS do YOU know of with a 14 (ior even 7) mile range
and a
14,000 foot ceiling?
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
So you don't know of any possible Man Portable Air Defence missile
that could have hit TWA800? Doesn't that rather undermine your case?
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
Take your time..
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
It's easy to see when you've lost an argument isn't it?
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
........LOOK HERE.....you show yourself the kook even more: Here
you
stated, as implied, that no missile could have been the cause.
LOL! YOU really are dense. I stated a MANPAD missile could not have
been the
cause.
You inadvertently implied the FBI are the kooks
yo really do put the "*****" in assertion, don't you?
You should read the post before you reply MR. terrorist supporting
*****
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
Lets recap who you are AGAIN:
*tw is a legit Fuckin' terrorist supporting *****.
Al'Qaeda and your terrorist buddies are included ;)
Evasion (and preposterous lie) noted.
and you are somehow some type of authority
Opinion again - all the info I quoted is on te hweb, yo ucan find it
yourself.
- Now that is another indication you are a REAL
KOOK!
Nice meltdown, Mikey.
"How on earth does a missile with a maximum range of 5 miles hit
something 8
miles away and 14,00 feet up? LOL" -TW the real KOOK! ( Original
thread)
I notice you still can't answer that one...
...land you STILL can't answer this rather important point...*snigger*
;)
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