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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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04 Nov 2004 02:16:38 AM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au> wrote in message
news:newscache$pwfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God
I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture of Chirac's face when he
heard the news? I want it
framed. ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages. Physically
I'm not up to the task of
heavy infantry. The Army found a nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently
with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait.
<*SNIP*>
That aint what the headers of your post say... LYING FRAUD
Not unless his wife sent Wisconsin along with the laptop ....
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 08:58:11 AM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Aidan" <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au> wrote in message
news:newscache$pwfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God
I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture of Chirac's face when he
heard the news? I want it
framed. ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages. Physically
I'm not up to the task of
heavy infantry. The Army found a nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently
with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait.
<*SNIP*>
That aint what the headers of your post say... LYING FRAUD
Not unless his wife sent Wisconsin along with the laptop ....
You are ignorant fucks. How can such imbecility be uttered on the net is
beyond me. Of course you can log on to any US news server from anywhere
in the world. You don't need to be there. All you need is a line and a
server. And I'm sure that they have plenty of that.
I post from Canada, yet I use easynews. It doesn't mean I am in the US.
All I need is access to the net and from there I could use a Japanese
news server and read&post here. You losers have no clue as usual.
J.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 08:29:44 AM |
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Aidan a écrit:
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a
picture of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages.
Physically I'm not up to the task of heavy infantry. The Army found a
nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait.
<*SNIP*>
That aint what the headers of your post say... LYING FRAUD
nah, it is you aidan who is one, as you just snipped the following
sentence of his post on purpose. It clearly said: " My wife sent a
laptop so I can remote connect."
You are here only to stir *****, and the only ones who like you are of
the same kind of mindset. They, like you, bring nothing here, just
buffoonery and fraud.
J.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 08:47:40 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:s1rid.4473279$6p.735903@news.easynews.com...
Aidan a écrit:
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a
picture of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages.
Physically I'm not up to the task of heavy infantry. The Army found a
nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait.
<*SNIP*>
That aint what the headers of your post say... LYING FRAUD
nah, it is you aidan who is one, as you just snipped the following
sentence of his post on purpose. It clearly said: " My wife sent a
laptop so I can remote connect."
You are here only to stir *****, and the only ones who like you are of
the same kind of mindset. They, like you, bring nothing here, just
buffoonery and fraud.
J.
Yeah but compare the headers from this past Sept to the one he's posting
with here. They're frickin' identical. What's he doing? Dialling into his
ISP in Wisconsin from his 'base' in Kuwait?
Hehehehehe ... ugh .... *c'mon* Jean ... it's time we had a little talk ...
you know the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, the Great Pumpkin and, yes, even
Santa Claus, Jean .... well, they're just *make believe*. And dw and his
'military' experience are part of that group.
OK? I know you're upset, but I think you're old enough now to know.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 10:11:21 AM |
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Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:s1rid.4473279$6p.735903@news.easynews.com...
Aidan a écrit:
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a
picture of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages.
Physically I'm not up to the task of heavy infantry. The Army found a
nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait.
<*SNIP*>
That aint what the headers of your post say... LYING FRAUD
nah, it is you aidan who is one, as you just snipped the following
sentence of his post on purpose. It clearly said: " My wife sent a
laptop so I can remote connect."
You are here only to stir *****, and the only ones who like you are of
the same kind of mindset. They, like you, bring nothing here, just
buffoonery and fraud.
J.
Yeah but compare the headers from this past Sept to the one he's posting
with here. They're frickin' identical. What's he doing? Dialling into his
ISP in Wisconsin from his 'base' in Kuwait?
Hehehehehe ... ugh .... *c'mon* Jean ... it's time we had a little talk ...
you know the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, the Great Pumpkin and, yes, even
Santa Claus, Jean .... well, they're just *make believe*. And dw and his
'military' experience are part of that group.
OK? I know you're upset, but I think you're old enough now to know.
Connecting to his news server from Iraq, as anyone can from anywhere in
the world, all one need is access from any local ISP, a user name and a
password. Anyone could post from his news server if one had that, from
anywhere in the world. I don't get you don't understand that. Are you
THAT dumb?
J.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 03:42:37 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
nah, it is you aidan who is one, as you just snipped the following
sentence of his post on purpose. It clearly said: " My wife sent a
laptop so I can remote connect."
Remote connect? So he's using a virtual desktop, that is conveniently
left on 24/7 for him to access from the other side of the world... seems
like overkill, since he could do what you say and just post through a US
news server if he liked...
Unfortunately, this header tells all:
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net
That's certainly not the news server host name... it's the dynamically
allocated host name his ISP had assigned the computer he posted from...
You are here only to stir *****, and the only ones who like you are of
the same kind of mindset. They, like you, bring nothing here, just
buffoonery and fraud.
You can continue on with the fantasy that dimwanker is infact posting
from an airport in Kuwait, or you can analyze the headers for yourself,
then come back and tell me that I'm wrong, and present why.
The smarter thing to do is the latter... but I expect you to maintain
your crazy line, because you can't read and understand the headers, can you?
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| User: "Cardinal Chunder" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
05 Nov 2004 04:29:25 AM |
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dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the Bushman for 4 more years. God
I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it
framed. ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages. Physically I'm not up to the task of
heavy infantry. The Army found a nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait. My wife sent a laptop so I can remote connect.
This place is a fucking armpit. We're handling air drop supplies for a small contigent of troops and
Kurdish "whatevers" to the north. Their duties are to guard the oil pipeline into Turkey. Life
sucks. The Army sucks.
Liar.
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| User: "The Doctor Is In" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
06 Nov 2004 05:19:24 AM |
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"Cardinal Chunder" <cc@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
news:cmfkm302c69@news4.newsguy.com...
dreamwalker wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:TBfid.2341406$yk.378581@news.easynews.com...
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God
I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture of Chirac's face when he
heard the news? I want it
framed. ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
J.
Training didn't go very well. Being 44 has it's disadvantages.
Physically I'm not up to the task of
heavy infantry. The Army found a nice ***** hole for me. I'm currently
with a small group of Army
reservist at Ali Al Salem Air Force base in Kuwait. My wife sent a
laptop so I can remote connect.
This place is a fucking armpit. We're handling air drop supplies for a
small contigent of troops and
Kurdish "whatevers" to the north. Their duties are to guard the oil
pipeline into Turkey. Life
sucks. The Army sucks.
Liar.
Fatigues on fire...
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 02:45:12 AM |
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:29:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture
of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
Gullible nitwit.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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04 Nov 2004 09:04:02 AM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:29:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture
of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
Gullible nitwit.
Not at all. It was from iraq, nitwit yourself.
J.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 09:42:42 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Cxrid.4474618$6p.736133@news.easynews.com...
Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:29:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture
of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
Gullible nitwit.
Not at all. It was from iraq, nitwit yourself.
J.
Jean, he's posting from Wisconsin.
Traceroute his NNTP ip ... Iraq's not in the hops *dude*. Make sure to
replace the '-' with a period '.'. The headers are absolutely identical to
those prior to his 'call-up'.
He's a liar and a fraud. Sorry, but it's true.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 07:12:32 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message news:<T5sid.23697$OD3.1139883@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Sitting on your ivory tower again Moron the Pathetic *****? ;)
He's a liar and a fraud. Sorry, but it's true.
Coming from you spastic we know it is a lie, eh crappy?
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 07:21:47 PM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0411041712.2457983e@posting.google.com...
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:<T5sid.23697$OD3.1139883@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Sitting on your ivory tower again Moron the Pathetic *****? ;)
He's a liar and a fraud. Sorry, but it's true.
Coming from you spastic we know it is a lie, eh crappy?
Hi Michelle !
Learn how to read headers instead of giving it and you'd see that dickwanker
is still sittin' in his trailer on the reserve.
You must feel pretty stoopid these days knowing you just voted for your own
draft notice eh 'tard ? ;-)
Cheers!
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
05 Nov 2004 07:09:56 PM |
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"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message news:<SAAid.24268$OD3.1223364@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0411041712.2457983e@posting.google.com...
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marvin@galaxy.com> wrote in message
news:<T5sid.23697$OD3.1139883@news20.bellglobal.com>...
Sitting on your ivory tower again Moron the Pathetic *****? ;)
He's a liar and a fraud. Sorry, but it's true.
Coming from you spastic we know it is a lie, eh crappy?
Hi Michelle !
Burp!
Learn how to read headers instead of giving it and you'd see that dickwanker
is still sittin' in his trailer on the reserve.
You are nuts; you do not know. :(
You must feel pretty stoopid these days knowing you just voted for your own
draft notice eh 'tard ? ;-)
"stoopid? " you mean 'Stupid', and No I do not.
Cheers!
Seems you had too many ;)
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 11:36:44 AM |
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You are the fraud here, and an idiot. I could post from there and be on
Canada, all I need is a user name and a password. I have done that many
times, when I was in Montreal, access through an internet café my email
and newsgroups, all that need to be done is change the server and input
the user name and password (and delete and clean out the recycling
bin/caches afterwards of course).
You have no clue or you lie through your teeth on purpose. Either way
you are the fraud here.
J.
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Cxrid.4474618$6p.736133@news.easynews.com...
Cuan a écrit:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:29:23 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
dreamwalker a écrit:
Bush, Bush, Bush. All you screaming libs need to deal with with the
Bushman for 4 more years. God I love it. BTW, did any one get a picture
of Chirac's face when he heard the news? I want it framed.
ROTFLMAO
dw-neocon of the great white north.
Oh yes........I told you he would win. 4,000,000 votes. America...I
love ya!
Welcome back... Are you writing from Iraq or from training?
Gullible nitwit.
Not at all. It was from iraq, nitwit yourself.
J.
Jean, he's posting from Wisconsin.
Traceroute his NNTP ip ... Iraq's not in the hops *dude*. Make sure to
replace the '-' with a period '.'. The headers are absolutely identical to
those prior to his 'call-up'.
He's a liar and a fraud. Sorry, but it's true.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 05:01:19 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com...
You are the fraud here, and an idiot. I could post from there and be on
Canada, all I need is a user name and a password. I have done that many
times, when I was in Montreal, access through an internet café my email
and newsgroups, all that need to be done is change the server and input
the user name and password (and delete and clean out the recycling
bin/caches afterwards of course).
You have no clue or you lie through your teeth on purpose. Either way you
are the fraud here.
J.
Lets try this again, shall we?
First, let's look at some of the headers of one of my posts:
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From: Aidan <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au>
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21
Message-ID: <newscache$8yfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au>
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OK, so the 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21' header shows the news server I
posted through, and if you can be bothered looking you'll notice that that
IP address resolves to the host shown in the Message-ID. The
'X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au' header shows the host name from
which I posted. Now let's look at DW's headers:
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From: "dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net>
Message-ID: <5a074$4189a3ff$407626f5$24982@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net
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OK, so they are a bit different, but that's to be expected, since he's
probably using a differnt news reader, and his news server probably runs
different server software... but the evidence is still undisputable.
Unlike my headers, DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net' is
pointing to the computer he posted from... how can I tell? Because the
server he posted through is always listed in his Message-ID, and it doesn't
resolve to the same IP/hostname as that in the 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header.
So yes, he is posting through a news server in the US, but we can also see
that the computer he used to post to the server, was connected from
somewhere within the US.
Jean, this kind of thing is my job... I'm employed at an ISP... I know
exactly what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, have displayed
complete ineptiude when it comes to analyzing Internet communications
(remember when you claimed an article was an opinion peice because of a
filename in the URL?... I rest my case)
Do you feel gullible now?
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
04 Nov 2004 05:20:24 PM |
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"Aidan" <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au> wrote in message
news:newscache$hslo6i$eq2$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com...
You are the fraud here, and an idiot. I could post from there and be on
Canada, all I need is a user name and a password. I have done that many
times, when I was in Montreal, access through an internet café my email
and newsgroups, all that need to be done is change the server and input
the user name and password (and delete and clean out the recycling
bin/caches afterwards of course).
You have no clue or you lie through your teeth on purpose. Either way you
are the fraud here.
J.
Lets try this again, shall we?
First, let's look at some of the headers of one of my posts:
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From: Aidan <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au>
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21
Message-ID: <newscache$8yfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au>
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OK, so the 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21' header shows the news server
I posted through, and if you can be bothered looking you'll notice that
that IP address resolves to the host shown in the Message-ID. The
'X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au' header shows the host name
from which I posted. Now let's look at DW's headers:
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From: "dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net>
Message-ID: <5a074$4189a3ff$407626f5$24982@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net
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OK, so they are a bit different, but that's to be expected, since he's
probably using a differnt news reader, and his news server probably runs
different server software... but the evidence is still undisputable.
Unlike my headers, DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net' is
pointing to the computer he posted from... how can I tell? Because the
server he posted through is always listed in his Message-ID, and it
doesn't resolve to the same IP/hostname as that in the 'NNTP-Posting-Host'
header.
So yes, he is posting through a news server in the US, but we can also see
that the computer he used to post to the server, was connected from
somewhere within the US.
Jean, this kind of thing is my job... I'm employed at an ISP... I know
exactly what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, have displayed
complete ineptiude when it comes to analyzing Internet communications
(remember when you claimed an article was an opinion peice because of a
filename in the URL?... I rest my case)
Do you feel gullible now?
As a follow up, let's look at your headers:
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From: Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
Message-ID: <MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com>
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So, first thing we notice is you don't have a 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header.
You do have a message ID though, so we can see the server you sent through,
and if you did have a 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header, it would either point to
this server, or show the IP/host name you posted it from. For DW's
'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same as mine (where it's acctually showing my
new server, not my hostname), it would mean that hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host'
would have to reolve to the same host as the in his message-ID... and guess
what? It doesn't
He played you for a sucker, and you ate it up. Laughable, especially for
anyone claiming to be an exegete.
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05 Nov 2004 01:45:35 PM |
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Aidan a écrit:
"Aidan" <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au> wrote in message
news:newscache$hslo6i$eq2$1@titan.linknet.com.au...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com...
You are the fraud here, and an idiot. I could post from there and be on
Canada, all I need is a user name and a password. I have done that many
times, when I was in Montreal, access through an internet café my email
and newsgroups, all that need to be done is change the server and input
the user name and password (and delete and clean out the recycling
bin/caches afterwards of course).
You have no clue or you lie through your teeth on purpose. Either way you
are the fraud here.
J.
Lets try this again, shall we?
First, let's look at some of the headers of one of my posts:
================================
From: Aidan <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au>
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21
Message-ID: <newscache$8yfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au>
================================
OK, so the 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21' header shows the news server
I posted through, and if you can be bothered looking you'll notice that
that IP address resolves to the host shown in the Message-ID. The
'X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au' header shows the host name
from which I posted. Now let's look at DW's headers:
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From: "dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net>
Message-ID: <5a074$4189a3ff$407626f5$24982@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net
================================
OK, so they are a bit different, but that's to be expected, since he's
probably using a differnt news reader, and his news server probably runs
different server software... but the evidence is still undisputable.
Unlike my headers, DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net' is
pointing to the computer he posted from... how can I tell? Because the
server he posted through is always listed in his Message-ID, and it
doesn't resolve to the same IP/hostname as that in the 'NNTP-Posting-Host'
header.
So yes, he is posting through a news server in the US, but we can also see
that the computer he used to post to the server, was connected from
somewhere within the US.
Jean, this kind of thing is my job... I'm employed at an ISP... I know
exactly what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, have displayed
complete ineptiude when it comes to analyzing Internet communications
(remember when you claimed an article was an opinion peice because of a
filename in the URL?... I rest my case)
Do you feel gullible now?
As a follow up, let's look at your headers:
================================
From: Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net>
Message-ID: <MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com>
================================
So, first thing we notice is you don't have a 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header.
You do have a message ID though, so we can see the server you sent through,
Duh, easynews. But you can't see it is from Canada. I don't get what you
are saying.
and if you did have a 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header, it would either point to
this server, or show the IP/host name you posted it from.
Either or? Do you mean if it would point to easynews you would still
have no clue?
For DW's
'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same as mine (where it's acctually showing my
new server, not my hostname), it would mean that hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host'
would have to reolve to the same host as the in his message-ID... and guess
what? It doesn't
*****. his NNTP server is
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net
which is allthenewsgroups.com
He can be posting from anywhere in the world and it would still show that.
Why you can't understand basic logic is beyond me.
J.
He played you for a sucker, and you ate it up. Laughable, especially for
anyone claiming to be an exegete.
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05 Nov 2004 04:25:58 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Duh, easynews. But you can't see it is from Canada. I don't get what
you are saying.
Well firstly, I'm just saying, we can tell which news server you, or
anyone else is posting through... OK, so we can tell which server he's
posting through.
Either or? Do you mean if it would point to easynews you would still
have no clue?
Yes, if you had a NNTP-Posting-Host header, it could only possibly point to:
- the new server you posted through
- the host name of the machine you posted from
Thus, DW's NNTP-Posting-Host header can *only* be his news server, or
the computer he posted from...
For DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same as mine (where it's
acctually showing my new server, not my hostname), it would mean that
hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host' would have to reolve to the same host as the
in his message-ID... and guess what? It doesn't
*****. his NNTP server is
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net
which is allthenewsgroups.com
Well, no.. this is where you're mistaken... look, here are the DNS
(IP/host name) lookups:
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
~$ dig allthenewsgroups.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.2 <<>> allthenewsgroups.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65442
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;allthenewsgroups.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
*allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.28
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.29*
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns3.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns4.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns1.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns2.voicenet.com.
;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:07:29 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
(important info in bold)
So, allthenewsgroups.com's network addresses (IP) are
207.103.26.28-29... next I look up his NNTP-Posting-Host to see if it
the same (in reverse):
===== 64.118.40.104 =====
~$ dig -x 64.118.40.104
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63052
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
*104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN PTR
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net.*
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns1.powerweb.net.
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns2.powerweb.net.
;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:09:50 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128
===== 64.118.40.104 =====
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted through...
Given this, *one of those IP addresses *has* to be the address he posted
from*... and a simple geographic lookup on those IP's show where they
are located:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm (you'll have to do the searches
on each IP, since they don't seem to be linkable)
Lo and behold, neither are in the middle east. Both seem to be located
in the North East corner of the USA.
He can be posting from anywhere in the world and it would still show
that.
Why you can't understand basic logic is beyond me.
Hopefully, you'll understand with this more verbose description.
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Jean Guernon wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="midzLQid.4527227$6p.744880@news.easynews.com"
type="cite">Duh, easynews. But you can't see it is from Canada. I
don't get what you are saying.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well firstly, I'm just saying, we can tell which news server you, or
anyone else is posting through... OK, so we can tell which server he's
posting through.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="midzLQid.4527227$6p.744880@news.easynews.com"
type="cite">Either or? Do you mean if it would point to easynews you
would still have no clue?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, if you had a NNTP-Posting-Host header, it could only possibly
point to:<br>
<br>
- the new server you posted through<br>
- the host name of the machine you posted from<br>
<br>
Thus, DW's NNTP-Posting-Host header can *only* be his news server, or
the computer he posted from...<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="midzLQid.4527227$6p.744880@news.easynews.com"
type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">For DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same
as mine (where it's acctually showing my new server, not my hostname),
it would mean that hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host' would have to reolve to the
same host as the in his message-ID... and guess what? It doesn't<br>
</blockquote>
*****. his NNTP server is
<br>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net
<br>
which is allthenewsgroups.com
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well, no.. this is where you're mistaken... look, here are the DNS
(IP/host name) lookups:<br>
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====<br>
~$ dig allthenewsgroups.com<br>
<br>
; <<>> DiG 9.1.2 <<>> allthenewsgroups.com<br>
;; global options: printcmd<br>
;; Got answer:<br>
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65442<br>
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0<br>
<br>
;; QUESTION SECTION:<br>
;allthenewsgroups.com. IN A<br>
<br>
;; ANSWER SECTION:<br>
<b>allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.28<br>
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.29</b><br>
<br>
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:<br>
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns3.voicenet.com.<br>
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns4.voicenet.com.<br>
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns1.voicenet.com.<br>
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns2.voicenet.com.<br>
<br>
;; Query time: 2 msec<br>
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)<br>
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:07:29 2004<br>
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151<br>
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====<br>
(important info in bold)<br>
So, allthenewsgroups.com's network addresses (IP) are
207.103.26.28-29... next I look up his NNTP-Posting-Host to see if it
the same (in reverse):<br>
===== 64.118.40.104 =====<br>
~$ dig -x 64.118.40.104<br>
;; Got answer:<br>
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63052<br>
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0<br>
<br>
;; QUESTION SECTION:<br>
;104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR<br>
<br>
;; ANSWER SECTION:<br>
<b>104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN PTR
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net.</b><br>
<br>
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:<br>
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns1.powerweb.net.<br>
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns2.powerweb.net.<br>
<br>
;; Query time: 2 msec<br>
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)<br>
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:09:50 2004<br>
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128<br>
===== 64.118.40.104 =====<br>
<br>
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...<br>
<br>
Given this, <b>one of those IP addresses *has* to be the address he
posted from</b>... and a simple geographic lookup on those IP's show
where they are located:<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm">http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm</a> (you'll have to do the searches
on each IP, since they don't seem to be linkable)<br>
<br>
Lo and behold, neither are in the middle east. Both seem to be located
in the North East corner of the USA.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="midzLQid.4527227$6p.744880@news.easynews.com"
type="cite">He can be posting from anywhere in the world and it would
still show that.
<br>
<br>
Why you can't understand basic logic is beyond me.
</blockquote>
<br>
Hopefully, you'll understand with this more verbose description.<br>
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
06 Nov 2004 06:00:49 PM |
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Aidan a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
Duh, easynews. But you can't see it is from Canada. I don't get what
you are saying.
Well firstly, I'm just saying, we can tell which news server you, or
anyone else is posting through... OK, so we can tell which server he's
posting through.
Either or? Do you mean if it would point to easynews you would still
have no clue?
Yes, if you had a NNTP-Posting-Host header, it could only possibly point to:
- the new server you posted through
- the host name of the machine you posted from
Thus, DW's NNTP-Posting-Host header can *only* be his news server, or
the computer he posted from...
For DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same as mine (where it's
acctually showing my new server, not my hostname), it would mean that
hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host' would have to reolve to the same host as the
in his message-ID... and guess what? It doesn't
*****. his NNTP server is
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net
which is allthenewsgroups.com
Well, no.. this is where you're mistaken... look, here are the DNS
(IP/host name) lookups:
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
~$ dig allthenewsgroups.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.2 <<>> allthenewsgroups.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65442
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;allthenewsgroups.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.28
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.29
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns3.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns4.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns1.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns2.voicenet.com.
;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:07:29 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
(important info in bold)
So, allthenewsgroups.com's network addresses (IP) are
207.103.26.28-29... next I look up his NNTP-Posting-Host to see if it
the same (in reverse):
===== 64.118.40.104 =====
~$ dig -x 64.118.40.104
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63052
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN PTR
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns1.powerweb.net.
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns2.powerweb.net.
;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:09:50 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128
===== 64.118.40.104 =====
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases. The news server
can use whatever address he wants, to process the caller, it is still
its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker is posting from,. you
can only see the powerweb.net webserver that process the demand.
I don't get that you don't get that. It eludes me.
You say you run a server? I can't say you are full of ***** about that
since I don't know if you own one, but you have no clue how it works,
that much is obvious.
Given this, one of those IP addresses *has* to be the address he posted
from... and a simple geographic lookup on those IP's show where they are
located:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm (you'll have to do the searches
on each IP, since they don't seem to be linkable)
Lo and behold, neither are in the middle east. Both seem to be located
in the North East corner of the USA.
Duh, powerweb.net in that area. Gee.
He can be posting from anywhere in the world and it would still show
that.
Why you can't understand basic logic is beyond me.
Hopefully, you'll understand with this more verbose description.
Hopefully you will get a clue. You resolve the IP to powerweb.net, what
more proof do you need.
I don't get you at all. You show the obvious and then deny it.
J.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
06 Nov 2004 06:45:42 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
....
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is one
of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and ask them
to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is completely
unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service dw is posting
through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker
is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net webserver that
process the demand.
Yeah, he can connect to www.allthenewsgroups.com from any host, and that
host will be displayed in his nntp-posting-host header.
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net is*not* running a web server (point a
web browser at it to prove it to yourself), and if you call powerweb
connect, they will confirm for you that the host name
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net, is one of many assigned to home users
when they connect to the Internet using their network.
I don't get that you don't get that. It eludes me.
I do get it, and I find it quite humorous that you're trying to give me
a lesson, on how nntp messages are propagated
You say you run a server? I can't say you are full of ***** about that
since I don't know if you own one, but you have no clue how it works,
that much is obvious.
What's obvious is that you're living 100% fantasy as far as dw being in
Iraq is concerned. Here, read these links, apply what you learn to dw's
posts (and mine too, because I'm not using an anonymizer, you'll be able
to trace me to the computer I posted this from):
http://www.jahitchcock.com/cyberstalked/header.htm
http://www.by-users.co.uk/faqs/email/headers/
http://www.technomom.com/cynthia/headers/usenetheaders.html
Once you've got a handle on it all, come back here and let me know what
you find...
It's this kind of complete ignorance that scares me about you Bush
lovers... in the face of overwhelming counter evidence, you'll believe
anything as long as it sounds good
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
06 Nov 2004 07:42:47 PM |
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Aidan a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
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So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is one
of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and ask them
to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is completely
unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service dw is posting
through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker
is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net webserver that
process the demand.
Yeah, he can connect to www.allthenewsgroups.com from any host, and that
host will be displayed in his nntp-posting-host header.
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net is*not* running a web server (point a
web browser at it to prove it to yourself),
http://powerweb.net works. What are you talking about?
and if you call powerweb
connect, they will confirm for you that the host name
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net, is one of many assigned to home users
when they connect to the Internet using their network.
Yes. From Kuwait. I absolutely do not get what you are talking about.
I don't get that you don't get that. It eludes me.
I do get it, and I find it quite humorous that you're trying to give me
a lesson, on how nntp messages are propagated
You say you run a server? I can't say you are full of ***** about that
since I don't know if you own one, but you have no clue how it works,
that much is obvious.
What's obvious is that you're living 100% fantasy as far as dw being in
Iraq is concerned. Here, read these links, apply what you learn to dw's
posts (and mine too, because I'm not using an anonymizer, you'll be able
to trace me to the computer I posted this from):
http://www.jahitchcock.com/cyberstalked/header.htm
http://www.by-users.co.uk/faqs/email/headers/
http://www.technomom.com/cynthia/headers/usenetheaders.html
Once you've got a handle on it all, come back here and let me know what
you find...
It's this kind of complete ignorance that scares me about you Bush
lovers... in the face of overwhelming counter evidence, you'll believe
anything as long as it sounds good
You are deluded. NOTHING prevents dw from connecting to powerweb to
access the net and from there use a private news server, voicenet int
his case, to access usenet.
You SAY you are running a server, but you make no case at all. You
ignore logic.
J.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
08 Nov 2004 06:45:43 AM |
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Guernon, you are an ignorant fucking fool...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:q4fjd.2505778$yk.399088@news.easynews.com...
Aidan a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
...
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is one
of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and ask them
to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is completely
unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service dw is posting
through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker
is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net webserver that
process the demand.
Yeah, he can connect to www.allthenewsgroups.com from any host, and that
host will be displayed in his nntp-posting-host header.
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net is*not* running a web server (point a
web browser at it to prove it to yourself),
http://powerweb.net works. What are you talking about?
and if you call powerweb
connect, they will confirm for you that the host name
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net, is one of many assigned to home users
when they connect to the Internet using their network.
Yes. From Kuwait. I absolutely do not get what you are talking about.
I don't get that you don't get that. It eludes me.
I do get it, and I find it quite humorous that you're trying to give me
a lesson, on how nntp messages are propagated
You say you run a server? I can't say you are full of ***** about that
since I don't know if you own one, but you have no clue how it works,
that much is obvious.
What's obvious is that you're living 100% fantasy as far as dw being in
Iraq is concerned. Here, read these links, apply what you learn to dw's
posts (and mine too, because I'm not using an anonymizer, you'll be able
to trace me to the computer I posted this from):
http://www.jahitchcock.com/cyberstalked/header.htm
http://www.by-users.co.uk/faqs/email/headers/
http://www.technomom.com/cynthia/headers/usenetheaders.html
Once you've got a handle on it all, come back here and let me know what
you find...
It's this kind of complete ignorance that scares me about you Bush
lovers... in the face of overwhelming counter evidence, you'll believe
anything as long as it sounds good
You are deluded. NOTHING prevents dw from connecting to powerweb to
access the net and from there use a private news server, voicenet int
his case, to access usenet.
You SAY you are running a server, but you make no case at all. You
ignore logic.
J.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
06 Nov 2004 10:33:36 PM |
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Jean Guernon wrote:
Aidan a écrit:
Jean Guernon wrote:
...
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not
the same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is
one of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and
ask them to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is
completely unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service
dw is posting through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where
dreamwalker is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net
webserver that process the demand.
Yeah, he can connect to www.allthenewsgroups.com from any host, and
that host will be displayed in his nntp-posting-host header.
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net is*not* running a web server (point
a web browser at it to prove it to yourself),
http://powerweb.net works. What are you talking about?
and if you call powerweb
connect, they will confirm for you that the host name
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net, is one of many assigned to home
users when they connect to the Internet using their network.
Yes. From Kuwait. I absolutely do not get what you are talking about.
I don't get that you don't get that. It eludes me.
I do get it, and I find it quite humorous that you're trying to give
me a lesson, on how nntp messages are propagated
You say you run a server? I can't say you are full of ***** about
that since I don't know if you own one, but you have no clue how it
works, that much is obvious.
What's obvious is that you're living 100% fantasy as far as dw being
in Iraq is concerned. Here, read these links, apply what you learn
to dw's posts (and mine too, because I'm not using an anonymizer,
you'll be able to trace me to the computer I posted this from):
http://www.jahitchcock.com/cyberstalked/header.htm
http://www.by-users.co.uk/faqs/email/headers/
http://www.technomom.com/cynthia/headers/usenetheaders.html
Once you've got a handle on it all, come back here and let me know
what you find...
It's this kind of complete ignorance that scares me about you Bush
lovers... in the face of overwhelming counter evidence, you'll
believe anything as long as it sounds good
You are deluded. NOTHING prevents dw from connecting to powerweb to
access the net and from there use a private news server, voicenet int
his case, to access usenet.
You SAY you are running a server, but you make no case at all. You
ignore logic.
J.
Believe in dw's illogical fantasy then... I'm over trying to explain
this to you...
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| User: "Cardinal Chunder" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 04:45:56 AM |
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Aidan wrote:
Jean Guernon wrote:
....
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is one
of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and ask them
to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is completely
unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service dw is posting
through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker
is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net webserver that
process the demand.
I have to correct you here. It isn't always possible to trace back from
the posting host. Some news servers such as mine, strip the original IP
and use their own.
For example if you look at mine it'll says p-xxx.newsdawg.com, but I'm
actually dialled in through an Irish ISP.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 07:37:50 AM |
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Cardinal Chunder wrote:
Aidan wrote:
Jean Guernon wrote:
....
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not
the same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is
one of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and
ask them to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is
completely unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service
dw is posting through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where
dreamwalker is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net
webserver that process the demand.
I have to correct you here. It isn't always possible to trace back
from the posting host. Some news servers such as mine, strip the
original IP and use their own.
For example if you look at mine it'll says p-xxx.newsdawg.com, but I'm
actually dialled in through an Irish ISP.
It depends on the news server configuration, the one you post through
has anonymizing features in place, so yes it's not always possible... my
headers, on the other hand do reveal the host I'm posting from, and this
is the same for many other many posters, including dw. Also, just
looking at his host name it looks like a typical, dynamically allocated
on dial-up deal... Jean has claimed that news and/or web servers are
apparently running on these host names, when is easy to check that that
is not the case. Jean just wants to live the fantasy, for some reason I
can't quite put my finger on.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 04:26:54 PM |
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*****. If dw calls his host from anywhere in the world you will still
see only his host IP.
J.
Aidan a écrit:
Cardinal Chunder wrote:
Aidan wrote:
Jean Guernon wrote:
....
So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not
the same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted
through...
YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases.
You didn't do reverse lookups on those Ip addresses did you?
64.118.40.104 resolves to 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net (which is
one of power web connects home user host name's... you can ring and
ask them to confirm this)
207.103.26.28 resolves to www.allthenewsgroups.com (which is
completely unrelated power web connect, it is simply the news service
dw is posting through... again, you can call them to confirm this)
The news server can use whatever address he wants, to process the
caller, it is still its domain. you cannot know from where
dreamwalker is posting from,. you can only see the powerweb.net
webserver that process the demand.
I have to correct you here. It isn't always possible to trace back
from the posting host. Some news servers such as mine, strip the
original IP and use their own.
For example if you look at mine it'll says p-xxx.newsdawg.com, but I'm
actually dialled in through an Irish ISP.
It depends on the news server configuration, the one you post through
has anonymizing features in place, so yes it's not always possible... my
headers, on the other hand do reveal the host I'm posting from, and this
is the same for many other many posters, including dw. Also, just
looking at his host name it looks like a typical, dynamically allocated
on dial-up deal... Jean has claimed that news and/or web servers are
apparently running on these host names, when is easy to check that that
is not the case. Jean just wants to live the fantasy, for some reason I
can't quite put my finger on.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 05:57:23 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Oixjd.4654548$6p.763607@news.easynews.com...
*****. If dw calls his host from anywhere in the world you will still
see only his host IP.
You've claimed several times there were news and/or web server running on
those host names... No *****; want me to pull out the google achive?
You've shown you know nothing about the subject at hand, you believe dw's
convoluted fairy tale regarding his illogical method of accessing the
Internet, and to cap it all off, you're opposing litterally 90% of the group
who are telling you your living a fantasy... this is where the 'Village
Idiot' label comes from Jean. Your argument has about as much strength as a
strand of dental floss.
I call on the liar, dicklesswonder, to proivde proof of the fact he's in
Iraq. So far, we've proved that the only way you could be doing this is to
dial-in to your local ISP in America. You must provide connect speeds,
modem logs and some kind of photographic evidence evidence of your location.
I know you won't because, you can't... and I suspect you'll claim 'I don't
have to prove anything to you', in which case, I will take that as an
admission of guilt that you are not infact residing in the middle east.
Failure to respond with the requested information will also be considered an
admission of guilt.
So Jean, where's the fucking lying coward now?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 11:27:45 PM |
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Aidan a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Oixjd.4654548$6p.763607@news.easynews.com...
*****. If dw calls his host from anywhere in the world you will still
see only his host IP.
You've claimed several times there were news and/or web server running on
those host names... No *****; want me to pull out the google achive?
http://powerweb.net/ you mean? I have shown you that.
[snip rest of total lies and ***** insults]
YOU are the fucking liar coward, Aidan.
J.
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| User: "Aidan" |
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| Title: Re: Uh-huh |
07 Nov 2004 11:48:08 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:ltDjd.4081758$ic1.398665@news.easynews.com...
Aidan a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Oixjd.4654548$6p.763607@news.easynews.com...
*****. If dw calls his host from anywhere in the world you will still
see only his host IP.
You've claimed several times there were news and/or web server running on
those host names... No *****; want me to pull out the google achive?
http://powerweb.net/ you mean? I have shown you that.
No, I mean this, from just a bit up this thread:
"YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases. The news server
can use whatever address he wants, to process the caller, it is still
its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker is posting from,. you
can only see the powerweb.net webserver that process the demand"
See? You claimed the host name in dw's headers was a web-server... hence you
are a fucking moron, trying to argue made up 'facts' with someone who works
in the field...
Are you ready to eat crow when dw doesn't (re: can't) cough up any evidence
of being in Iraq?
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