"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:ltDjd.4081758$ic1.398665@news.easynews.com...

Aidan a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Oixjd.4654548$6p.763607@news.easynews.com...

*****. If dw calls his host from anywhere in the world you will still
see only his host IP.

You've claimed several times there were news and/or web server running on
those host names... No *****; want me to pull out the google achive?

http://powerweb.net/ you mean? I have shown you that.

No, I mean this, from just a bit up this thread:

"YES it is the same. it is powerweb.net in both cases. The news server
can use whatever address he wants, to process the caller, it is still
its domain. you cannot know from where dreamwalker is posting from,. you
can only see the powerweb.net webserver that process the demand"

See? You claimed the host name in dw's headers was a web-server... hence you
are a fucking moron, trying to argue made up 'facts' with someone who works
in the field...

Are you ready to eat crow when dw doesn't (re: can't) cough up any evidence
of being in Iraq?

Jean Guernon wrote:

Duh, easynews. But you can't see it is from Canada. I don't get what
you are saying.

Well firstly, I'm just saying, we can tell which news server you, or
anyone else is posting through... OK, so we can tell which server he's
posting through.

Either or? Do you mean if it would point to easynews you would still
have no clue?

Yes, if you had a NNTP-Posting-Host header, it could only possibly point to:

- the new server you posted through
- the host name of the machine you posted from

Thus, DW's NNTP-Posting-Host header can *only* be his news server, or
the computer he posted from...

For DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host' to be the same as mine (where it's
acctually showing my new server, not my hostname), it would mean that
hit 'NNTP-Posting-Host' would have to reolve to the same host as the
in his message-ID... and guess what? It doesn't

*****. his NNTP server is
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net
which is allthenewsgroups.com

Well, no.. this is where you're mistaken... look, here are the DNS
(IP/host name) lookups:
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
~$ dig allthenewsgroups.com

; <<>> DiG 9.1.2 <<>> allthenewsgroups.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65442
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;allthenewsgroups.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.28
allthenewsgroups.com. 3 IN A 207.103.26.29

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns3.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns4.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns1.voicenet.com.
allthenewsgroups.com. 7143 IN NS ns2.voicenet.com.

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:07:29 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151
===== allthenewsgroups.com =====
(important info in bold)
So, allthenewsgroups.com's network addresses (IP) are
207.103.26.28-29... next I look up his NNTP-Posting-Host to see if it
the same (in reverse):
===== 64.118.40.104 =====
~$ dig -x 64.118.40.104
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63052
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
104.40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN PTR
64-118-40-104.gate5.powerweb.net.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns1.powerweb.net.
40.118.64.in-addr.arpa. 86237 IN NS dns2.powerweb.net.

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 202.162.96.5#53(202.162.96.5)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 6 09:09:50 2004
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128
===== 64.118.40.104 =====

So we can see in this lookup, that the IP 64.118.40.104 resolves in
reverse to DW's NNTP-Posting-Host, which you will notice, is not the
same as the server (207.103.26.28 and 207.103.26.29) he posted through...

Given this, one of those IP addresses *has* to be the address he posted
from... and a simple geographic lookup on those IP's show where they are
located:

http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm (you'll have to do the searches
on each IP, since they don't seem to be linkable)

Lo and behold, neither are in the middle east. Both seem to be located
in the North East corner of the USA.

He can be posting from anywhere in the world and it would still show
that.

Why you can't understand basic logic is beyond me.

Hopefully, you'll understand with this more verbose description.

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:MMtid.2382202$yk.383679@news.easynews.com...

You are the fraud here, and an idiot. I could post from there and be on
Canada, all I need is a user name and a password. I have done that many
times, when I was in Montreal, access through an internet café my email
and newsgroups, all that need to be done is change the server and input
the user name and password (and delete and clean out the recycling
bin/caches afterwards of course).

You have no clue or you lie through your teeth on purpose. Either way you
are the fraud here.

J.

Lets try this again, shall we?

First, let's look at some of the headers of one of my posts:
================================
From: Aidan <nospam.aidan@linknet.com.au>
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21
Message-ID: <newscache$8yfn6i$f92$1@titan.linknet.com.au>
================================

OK, so the 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.162.96.21' header shows the news server I
posted through, and if you can be bothered looking you'll notice that that
IP address resolves to the host shown in the Message-ID. The
'X-NNTP-Posting-Host: wdsl-4.linknet.com.au' header shows the host name from
which I posted. Now let's look at DW's headers:
================================
From: "dreamwalker" <backfromthe@dead.net>
Message-ID: <5a074$4189a3ff$407626f5$24982@powerweb.allthenewsgroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net
================================

OK, so they are a bit different, but that's to be expected, since he's
probably using a differnt news reader, and his news server probably runs
different server software... but the evidence is still undisputable.

Unlike my headers, DW's 'NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-118-38-245.powerweb.net' is
pointing to the computer he posted from... how can I tell? Because the
server he posted through is always listed in his Message-ID, and it doesn't
resolve to the same IP/hostname as that in the 'NNTP-Posting-Host' header.

So yes, he is posting through a news server in the US, but we can also see
that the computer he used to post to the server, was connected from
somewhere within the US.

Jean, this kind of thing is my job... I'm employed at an ISP... I know
exactly what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, have displayed
complete ineptiude when it comes to analyzing Internet communications
(remember when you claimed an article was an opinion peice because of a
filename in the URL?... I rest my case)

Do you feel gullible now?