UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa
Valley
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The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters
– the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of
the country.
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14 Jun 2004 06:26:54 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20040612110429.09603.00000968@mb-m11.aol.com>...
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
SNIP> In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of
the country.
Oh sure scuds and whole Battalions scurrying hither and thither!
Were they not under constant surveillance?
Look at the destinations, if you believe that well!
LB
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14 Jun 2004 07:12:51 AM |
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"Leigh_Bee" <leigh8bee@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:39cd5fe.0406140326.3ad45a7a@posting.google.com...
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote in message
news:<20040612110429.09603.00000968@mb-m11.aol.com>...
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
SNIP> In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general
Mohammed El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled
out of
the country.
Oh sure scuds and whole Battalions scurrying hither and thither!
Were they not under constant surveillance?
Look at the destinations, if you believe that well!
LB
Other sources (ones rather less paranoid and fascistic than World Nut Daily
or Worm Tribune) suggest that this was in fact local entrepeneurs trying to
make a living from selling scrap metal (tallies with the description of
rocket engines being found in a scrapyard in Rotterdam)
So, in summary, it ain't WMD, it is at best
WMD-related-equipment-which-has-been--scrapped and it ain't being shipped
out by Saddam..
Another typically accurate article from Tony...
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14 Jun 2004 07:59:57 AM |
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On 14 Jun 2004 04:26:54 -0700, (Leigh_Bee)
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20040612110429.09603.00000968@mb-m11.aol.com>...
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
SNIP> In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of
the country.
Oh sure scuds and whole Battalions scurrying hither and thither!
Were they not under constant surveillance?
Look at the destinations, if you believe that well!
LB
well, Guernon is normally rather critical of other news sources and,
well, look at him, he's happy as a pig in ***** over this one. It
*must* be true.
I must say, all that equipment for making biological and chemical
weapons, which was removed from the "WMD" sites, still having UN
inspection stickers on them raises a question: what were they doing
there all that time anyway? Surely a UN inspector wouldn't inspect
apparatus for making such weapons and then simply put a sticker on
them and move along? They never mentioned that they had found
anything along those lines either...maybe the UN stole the stuff, or
even better, the US servicemen who were running across the countryside
looking for it.
The next question is: what were the rocket engines doing in the scrap
yards? Perhaps, like what happens here in SA in the poverty-stricken
communities, citizens who were short of money found the metal
'objects' and went and sold them as scrap in other countries where
they'd fetch a higher price - maybe even Saddam did - no point in
destroying perfectly good metal when you can sell it. Odd place to
find a missile engine, I must say.
The writer of the 'scoop' was probably as eager to find something as
Tony or Jean is. Like Tony saying that a missile engine in a scrap
yard in Jordan or The Netherlands proves that Iraq had WMD. LOL.
Everyone knows that Iraq *had* WMD. What is still up for debate is
whether or not he had them at the time the US was preparing for war.
Any defence attorney could have this kicked out on a lack of evidence.
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13 Jun 2004 06:02:48 PM |
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(TonyZ2001), wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, lø,
12 jun 2004 15:04:29 GMT:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
And those WMD where did they originally come from?
Perhaps from Ronald Reagan and Rumsfeld during the 80's?
Yepp. That's probably true.
--
Henning
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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13 Jun 2004 07:17:24 PM |
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"Henning Larsen" <NONEXISTANT@NONEXISTANT.XXX> wrote in message
news:caimeo$5sr$4@troll.powertech.no...
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001), wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, lø,
12 jun 2004 15:04:29 GMT:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
And those WMD where did they originally come from?
Perhaps from Ronald Reagan and Rumsfeld during the 80's?
Yepp. That's probably true.
--
Henning
Wrong again Mr Bumfuck.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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14 Jun 2004 07:34:31 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:17:24 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.net> wrote:
"Henning Larsen" <NONEXISTANT@NONEXISTANT.XXX> wrote in message
news:caimeo$5sr$4@troll.powertech.no...
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001), wrote in alt.prophecies.nostradamus, lø,
12 jun 2004 15:04:29 GMT:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
And those WMD where did they originally come from?
Perhaps from Ronald Reagan and Rumsfeld during the 80's?
Yepp. That's probably true.
--
Henning
Wrong again Mr Bumfuck.
references please, Mr Bumbandit?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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13 Jun 2004 12:38:13 AM |
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About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa
Valley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters
– the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of
the country.
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| User: "tw" |
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14 Jun 2004 03:22:40 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:9LRyc.17363979$Id.2868480@news.easynews.com...
About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was meant to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
14 Jun 2004 09:08:49 AM |
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tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:9LRyc.17363979$Id.2868480@news.easynews.com...
About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was meant to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable, after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This is a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
15 Jun 2004 01:45:21 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Rjizc.17454054$Id.2881824@news.easynews.com...
tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:9LRyc.17363979$Id.2868480@news.easynews.com...
About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong stretch.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons
of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the
speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same
location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council
on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard
to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe
and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's
spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really
assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in
Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
15 Jun 2004 05:06:11 AM |
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tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Rjizc.17454054$Id.2881824@news.easynews.com...
tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong stretch.
Well, no. Again, you would say anything to exonerate Saddam JUST to make the US
look bad. THe truth is that "Council members were shown photographs of a
ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite
image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared."
If you read carefully, you see that a "Baghdad missile site contained a range of
WMD and dual-use components" (UN officials). They included missile components,
reactor vessel and fermenters...
The fact is that they find dozens of SA-2 engines in Jordan, WMD components in
Rotterdam still with the UN inspectors labels. And what about Turkey... there
were tons of these things shipped abroad, and they don't know that the actual
WMD weren't, they just know Saddam shipped everything he could. They also know
that the two WMD that were used by mistake had been declared destroyed by
Saddam. So all he said is PROVEN ***** and they just don't know what other
***** has been either hidden or shipped that were WMD. They just know that there
were tons of this ***** shipped out.
Scrap of metal? Right. Saddam just sent some scrap of metal. In your dreams.
This is what shows up because it is discarded. The important stuff is not in
scrapyards, dumbo!!!!
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
Don'T take it personal tw. It is the same rhetoric's as all the fucking idiots
in the world, it just that it must be debunked to the bone, which is easy to do,
if anyone who has a brain uses it.
Unfortunately it seems that it is a rare commodity. But even you must admit it
shouldn't be that way in an advanced world such as ours. It is really fucked up.
J.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons
of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the
speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same
location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council
on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard
to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe
and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's
spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really
assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in
Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
15 Jun 2004 06:55:37 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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tw a écrit:
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was
meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong
stretch.
Well, no. Again, you would say anything to exonerate Saddam JUST to make
the US
look bad.
I'm not trying to do either, merely presenting the facts. The UN inspetors
DID NOT say WMD was shipped out, nor did they say it was done by Saddam. The
thread title is a lie..
THe truth is that "Council members were shown photographs of a
ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a
satellite
image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had
disappeared."
Fair enough.
If you read carefully, you see that a "Baghdad missile site contained a
range of
WMD and dual-use components" (UN officials). They included missile
components,
reactor vessel and fermenters...
Yes, WMD components being verrrry different from actual WMD. THey admit many
of these components were dual use too.
The fact is that they find dozens of SA-2 engines in Jordan
Yep. An SA2 is a relitvely short range SAM, not WMD:
WMD components in
Rotterdam still with the UN inspectors labels.
Rocket engines, as I said. Scrap rocket engines at that.
And what about Turkey... there
were tons of these things shipped abroad
What "things"? Tons fo scrap metal, according to the article.
, and they don't know that the actual
WMD weren't
Whcih doesn't mean that they WERE, which is why the tthead title is a lie.
they just know Saddam shipped everything he could. They also know
that the two WMD that were used by mistake had been declared destroyed by
Saddam. So all he said is PROVEN ***** and they just don't know what
other
***** has been either hidden or shipped that were WMD. They just know that
there
were tons of this ***** shipped out.
Scrap of metal? Right. Saddam just sent some scrap of metal. In your
dreams.
This is what shows up because it is discarded. The important stuff is not
in
scrapyards, dumbo!!!!
To quote you, "In your dreams". YOu have no facts to back your supposition.
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the locals, loser.
Don'T take it personal tw.
I don't
It is the same rhetoric's as all the fucking idiots
in the world, it just that it must be debunked to the bone, which is easy
to do,
if anyone who has a brain uses it.
Yep, that IS how I've always seen your rhetoric. Didn't expect you to admit
it so candidly though,
Unfortunately it seems that it is a rare commodity. But even you must
admit it
shouldn't be that way in an advanced world such as ours. It is really
fucked up.
Glad you realise your failings, that's good to see.
J.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This
is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons
of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the
speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during
the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same
location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council
on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the
scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to
very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard
to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also
reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe
and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in
Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's
spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with
a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported
to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found
20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed
through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really
assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al
Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the
Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in
Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general
Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being
smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
16 Jun 2004 08:46:27 AM |
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tw"
wrote:
Jean Guernon" ><jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent >>millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the >locals, loser.
Uh, it was just proved that tons of scrap metal were shipped out of Iraq, so
what are you saying was "looted by the locals" ?
Tony
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
17 Jun 2004 02:54:16 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616094627.19122.00000065@mb-m06.aol.com...
tw"
wrote:
Jean Guernon" ><jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent >>millions to ship scrap of metal,
loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the >locals, loser.
Uh, it was just proved that tons of scrap metal were shipped out of Iraq,
so
what are you saying was "looted by the locals" ?
LOL! How fucking dense are you Tony?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
16 Jun 2004 12:31:22 AM |
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tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:nSzzc.6644426$iA2.754232@news.easynews.com...
tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Rjizc.17454054$Id.2881824@news.easynews.com...
tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:9LRyc.17363979$Id.2868480@news.easynews.com...
About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was
meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong
stretch.
Well, no. Again, you would say anything to exonerate Saddam JUST to make
the US
look bad.
I'm not trying to do either, merely presenting the facts. The UN inspetors
DID NOT say WMD was shipped out, nor did they say it was done by Saddam. The
thread title is a lie..
THe truth is that "Council members were shown photographs of a
ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a
satellite
image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had
disappeared."
Fair enough.
If you read carefully, you see that a "Baghdad missile site contained a
range of
WMD and dual-use components" (UN officials). They included missile
components,
reactor vessel and fermenters...
Yes, WMD components being verrrry different from actual WMD. THey admit many
of these components were dual use too.
The fact is that they find dozens of SA-2 engines in Jordan
Yep. An SA2 is a relitvely short range SAM, not WMD:
WMD components in
Rotterdam still with the UN inspectors labels.
Rocket engines, as I said. Scrap rocket engines at that.
And what about Turkey... there
were tons of these things shipped abroad
What "things"? Tons fo scrap metal, according to the article.
, and they don't know that the actual
WMD weren't
Whcih doesn't mean that they WERE, which is why the tthead title is a lie.
they just know Saddam shipped everything he could. They also know
that the two WMD that were used by mistake had been declared destroyed by
Saddam. So all he said is PROVEN ***** and they just don't know what
other
***** has been either hidden or shipped that were WMD. They just know that
there
were tons of this ***** shipped out.
Scrap of metal? Right. Saddam just sent some scrap of metal. In your
dreams.
This is what shows up because it is discarded. The important stuff is not
in
scrapyards, dumbo!!!!
To quote you, "In your dreams". YOu have no facts to back your supposition.
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the locals, loser.
Don'T take it personal tw.
I don't
It is the same rhetoric's as all the fucking idiots
in the world, it just that it must be debunked to the bone, which is easy
to do,
if anyone who has a brain uses it.
Yep, that IS how I've always seen your rhetoric. Didn't expect you to admit
it so candidly though,
Unfortunately it seems that it is a rare commodity. But even you must
admit it
shouldn't be that way in an advanced world such as ours. It is really
fucked up.
Glad you realise your failings, that's good to see.
I see you need glasses. No use trying to rationalize with you apparently.
J.
J.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This
is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons
of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the
speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during
the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same
location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council
on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the
scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to
very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard
to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also
reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe
and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
------
Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in
Lebanon's
Bekaa
Valley
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
------
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's
spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with
a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported
to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found
20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed
through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really
assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al
Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the
Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in
Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general
Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being
smuggled
out of
the country.
.
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| User: "tw" |
|
| Title: Re: UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after |
16 Jun 2004 06:58:05 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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tw a écrit:
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tw a écrit:
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tw a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:9LRyc.17363979$Id.2868480@news.easynews.com...
About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like
rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was
meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong
stretch.
Well, no. Again, you would say anything to exonerate Saddam JUST to make
the US
look bad.
I'm not trying to do either, merely presenting the facts. The UN
inspetors
DID NOT say WMD was shipped out, nor did they say it was done by Saddam.
The
thread title is a lie..
THe truth is that "Council members were shown photographs of a
ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a
satellite
image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had
disappeared."
Fair enough.
If you read carefully, you see that a "Baghdad missile site contained a
range of
WMD and dual-use components" (UN officials). They included missile
components,
reactor vessel and fermenters...
Yes, WMD components being verrrry different from actual WMD. THey admit
many
of these components were dual use too.
The fact is that they find dozens of SA-2 engines in Jordan
Yep. An SA2 is a relitvely short range SAM, not WMD:
WMD components in
Rotterdam still with the UN inspectors labels.
Rocket engines, as I said. Scrap rocket engines at that.
And what about Turkey... there
were tons of these things shipped abroad
What "things"? Tons fo scrap metal, according to the article.
, and they don't know that the actual
WMD weren't
Whcih doesn't mean that they WERE, which is why the tthead title is a
lie.
they just know Saddam shipped everything he could. They also know
that the two WMD that were used by mistake had been declared destroyed
by
Saddam. So all he said is PROVEN ***** and they just don't know what
other
***** has been either hidden or shipped that were WMD. They just know
that
there
were tons of this ***** shipped out.
Scrap of metal? Right. Saddam just sent some scrap of metal. In your
dreams.
This is what shows up because it is discarded. The important stuff is
not
in
scrapyards, dumbo!!!!
To quote you, "In your dreams". YOu have no facts to back your
supposition.
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the locals, loser.
Don'T take it personal tw.
I don't
It is the same rhetoric's as all the fucking idiots
in the world, it just that it must be debunked to the bone, which is
easy
to do,
if anyone who has a brain uses it.
Yep, that IS how I've always seen your rhetoric. Didn't expect you to
admit
it so candidly though,
Unfortunately it seems that it is a rare commodity. But even you must
admit it
shouldn't be that way in an advanced world such as ours. It is really
fucked up.
Glad you realise your failings, that's good to see.
I see you need glasses. No use trying to rationalize with you apparently.
Not when you're as irrational as you are, no.
J.
J.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This
is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped
weapons
of
mass
destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles
before,
during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed
the
Security
Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of
Saddam's
missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the
speed
with
which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during
the
war.
Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site
outside
Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same
location
in
February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the
council
on
June 9
that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the
scrap
metal,
and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive
materials
within
the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's
being
traded
out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to
very
old, and
slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with
regard
to
proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also
reported
that
inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad
that
still
contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to
Europe
and
around
the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month.
Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in
Lebanon's
Bekaa
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The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use
components, UN
officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel
and
fermenters
- the latter required for the production of chemical and biological
warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment,
where is it
now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's
spokesman,
said.
"You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products
with
a
fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported
to
such
countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city
of
Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was
discovered
in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors
found
20
SA-2
engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed
through
these
yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really
assess
the
significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could
be
going on
there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al
Samoud
surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the
Saddam
regime.
Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in
Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general
Mohammed
El
Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being
smuggled
out of
the country.
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Well, at least you admit it.
J.
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About time they wake up, they are just getting started, but from UN
inspectors,
after a loser like Blix, it IS great news.
What? If it actually WAS WMD (as opposed to WMD components like
rocket
engines) it would be VERY bad news indeed that they had been
proliferated.
It as also suppose dto be teh exact thing teh invasion of Iraq was
meant
to
prevent (according to Blair and Bush).
The doublethink is incredible...
WMD are indisputable,
Hardly - this was scrap metal rocket engines. Not WMD by a looong
stretch.
Well, no. Again, you would say anything to exonerate Saddam JUST to make
the US
look bad.
I'm not trying to do either, merely presenting the facts. The UN
inspetors
DID NOT say WMD was shipped out, nor did they say it was done by Saddam.
The
thread title is a lie..
THe truth is that "Council members were shown photographs of a
ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a
satellite
image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had
disappeared."
Fair enough.
If you read carefully, you see that a "Baghdad missile site contained a
range of
WMD and dual-use components" (UN officials). They included missile
components,
reactor vessel and fermenters...
Yes, WMD components being verrrry different from actual WMD. THey admit
many
of these components were dual use too.
The fact is that they find dozens of SA-2 engines in Jordan
Yep. An SA2 is a relitvely short range SAM, not WMD:
WMD components in
Rotterdam still with the UN inspectors labels.
Rocket engines, as I said. Scrap rocket engines at that.
And what about Turkey... there
were tons of these things shipped abroad
What "things"? Tons fo scrap metal, according to the article.
, and they don't know that the actual
WMD weren't
Whcih doesn't mean that they WERE, which is why the tthead title is a
lie.
they just know Saddam shipped everything he could. They also know
that the two WMD that were used by mistake had been declared destroyed
by
Saddam. So all he said is PROVEN ***** and they just don't know what
other
***** has been either hidden or shipped that were WMD. They just know
that
there
were tons of this ***** shipped out.
Scrap of metal? Right. Saddam just sent some scrap of metal. In your
dreams.
This is what shows up because it is discarded. The important stuff is
not
in
scrapyards, dumbo!!!!
To quote you, "In your dreams". YOu have no facts to back your
supposition.
Keep dreaming that Saddam spent millions to ship scrap of metal, loser.
I don't, I'm guessing it was looted by the locals, loser.
Don'T take it personal tw.
I don't
It is the same rhetoric's as all the fucking idiots
in the world, it just that it must be debunked to the bone, which is
easy
to do,
if anyone who has a brain uses it.
Yep, that IS how I've always seen your rhetoric. Didn't expect you to
admit
it so candidly though,
Unfortunately it seems that it is a rare commodity. But even you must
admit it
shouldn't be that way in an advanced world such as ours. It is really
fucked up.
Glad you realise your failings, that's good to see.
I see you need glasses. No use trying to rationalize with you apparently.
Not when you're as irrational as you are, no.
J.
J.
after they used 2 different types by mistake. Saddam had
lied all along about these and the rest as well no doubt. But that was
pure
logic. The good news is not that there is proliferation, come on. This
is
a bad
news that was known a long time ago, by anyone with a brain.
The good news is that the UN wakes up.
J.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped
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