This man is truly a multifaceted bundle of talent! Little did we know
Uncle Wally was a spirit medium! Wow!
And, I think Mikey, Tony, dinkwanker, et al, should reconsider the actual
state of their earthly presence.
Is it possible they've all been dead for years and don't know it?
Could alt.prophecies.nostradamus be a conduit for the voices of their
restless spirits?
Scary.
Doc ;)
People Who Don't Know They're Dead by Gary Leon Hill
The title is what did it for me. I wanted to know more. Had to know more.
It's a great title. C'mon, how is it possible to not know you are dead,
right? Well, Hill's Uncle Wally and his Aunt Ruth counseled dead spirits
who became freeze-framed and earth-bound. These spirits sometimes latched
onto unaware passersby whose body they had to share with someone unseen
and unknown.
I had to remind myself, twice, that this book is non-fiction because it
actually reads like fiction. It's a trip down an unfamiliar road that
we've always wanted to take. I paused and let the ideals fully sink in
countless times while reading. When I finished, I was pleased. It's more
than a great title; it's a great read. I highly recommend it for anyone
who have lost a loved one, who is scared to death of death, or whomever
just wants to learn something refreshing about the spiritual process of
death.
Hill took some time off to provide some great answers to questions I
thought we'd all like to know.
1). What did Wally do before he started counseling attached earthbound
spirits?
Wally had been in counseling for several years before he worked with the
earthbound spirits. He only "moonlighted" in that area. Before that, Wally
flew B-25s during World War II, was recalled for Korea in 1951, spent the
next eight years in the Strategic Air Command (SAC) as a pilot and
Aircraft Commander of B-29s and B-47s, and retired with the rank of major.
In 1964, he went to Vermillion, SD, on a National Defense Education Act
Fellowship, and earned his Masters and Doctorate degrees in Educational
Psychology and Guidance. By the early seventies, he was teaching
counseling theories at Winona State University in Winona, MN, and
designing courses to keep up with his developing interests in death and
dying, life after death, stress management, and the power of belief.
Wally had entered the field of psychology just as the Behaviorism of John
B. Watson and B.F. Skinner was giving way to the client-centered therapies
of Carl Rogers and Abraham Maslow. Humanism led to Transpersonal
Psychology, "which is the full-fledged admission of spirituality being of
part of it," and where belief became an object of study.
Wally was drawn to Prescott Lecky, who said that what you believe about
yourself -- whether true or false -- becomes the boundaries within which
you live your life. Next, Wally discovered the work of Elmer Green, who
developed biofeedback procedures.
Green's equipment presented feedback for factors such as fingertip
temperature, muscle firings, brain waves and heart rate. His was the first
concrete demonstration of the fact that beliefs held in the mind can cause
changes in physiological functions previously held by Western medicine to
be beyond our conscious control.
This was mind over body, the power of belief, and it intrigued the hell
out of Wally. He dove into biofeedback in March of '74, took his training
in Topeka with Elmer and Alyce Green, qualified himself to teach it, and
returned to Minnesota where, by summer, he had his own equipment. By fall,
he was teaching a course on biofeedback and relaxation and was using
biofeedback in his counseling work at the university center.
2). What was the paranormal impetus that started his transition into
full-time counseling?
Wally went into counseling when an NDEA fellowship in school
administration was not available, but an NDEA fellowship in counseling
presented itself.
The impetus for Wally's counseling of earthbound spirits was a reflexology
appointment he made that winter for Ardis, his wife, with a man named Vic
Darr. As I describe in People Who Don't Know They're Dead, Ardis had her
feet in Vic's lap when Lorraine, Vic's wife, came down from upstairs and
began to channel Wally and Ardis's son Michael, who had been dead for ten
years. "Oh, hi, Mom and Dad," said Lorraine. "I just wanted to let you
know I'm still around and it was a very easy death. No pain."
The woman was a total stranger, had no way of knowing that they had a
child or that the child had died or that his death had been an easy one.
This was Wally and Ardis's initiation into first-person paranormal. It was
the first of several conversations they would have with Michael through
Vic and Lorraine, and the beginning of an ongoing exploration into the
invisible realms of spirit communication.
Vic and Lorraine began spending weekends with Wally and Ardis. They'd have
"sessions" - contacting dead relatives and friends, clearing entities from
houses, and doing rescue missions (sending souls to the Light). As
Lorraine was learning to allow spirit entities to speak through her, Wally
learned to counsel -- telling those they encountered who were dead and did
not know it where they were and what was happening. This brand of "ghost
counseling" was a natural extension of Wally's work. The difference being,
in these cases, his clients were dead. "This was my pro bono work," he
jokes. "And no third party payments."
3). What did it feel like to sit in on a clearing?
No flashing lights, slamming doors, strange odors or sudden cold fronts
sweeping through the room. There's been a reassuring simplicity and calm
to the clearings I've been in on. And respect.
Wally sets the tone by asking the assembled group - usually five or six
people - to get relaxed and centered, set aside our own concerns,
visualize a bubble of light emanating from our hearts that then expands to
encompass the group in a unified feeling of warmth and love. A bit like
group meditation, with a focused intent.
As Ruth holds the pendulum, Wally asks Universal Intelligence for
permission to work with the Higher Self of the person who is attached.
That granted, he calls into the circle the Higher Self of the person and
all "entities, stowaways and hitchhikers" who may be attached to the body
or aura or energy system of the person.
If, by previous use of the pendulum, Wally knows the name of the attaching
spirit, he will speak to them directly. He will tell them they are dead.
Their physical body is gone. They are alive in their spirit body now, but
because they have misunderstood their situation, they have attached
themselves to the body of a living human being and are doing them harm.
They must leave.
Wally's task is to get the hitchhiker to realize that he or she is dead,
to turn away from the physical world, to look around on the spirit side
for those who are there to help them, and to get on with their "lives."
When the clearing is complete, we get a quiet confirmation from the
pendulum.
4). How does the reality of creating our own reality come into this book?
From page one, where Wally asks two questions: Is the universe friendly or
unfriendly? And: What happens at death?
According to Wally, how we answer those questions determines how we live
our lives and the reality of our so-called death.
If you believe that the universe is out to get you, you're going to pull
back, shut down, fear kicks in, and very likely you will compromise your
immune system. But if your reality, instead, is that the universe is
friendly, you will go out, engage it, and live in a healing, growing mode.
Similarly, if you believe that death is the ultimate blackout, end of
everything, that when the lights go out, that's it, it's over, and
instead, when death comes, nothing seems to have changed - that your
consciousness has, in fact, survived so-called death - you may likely
continue to focus on the physical plane and seek to satisfy your needs and
appetites as you always have. Without physical bodies, we no longer need
shelter, food, or clothing, let alone do we need sex, alcohol or drugs.
But if we die ignorant of our situation and don't know we are dead, or
worse, have died under the influence of anger, alcohol, or drugs, our
appetites may remain, and we may blindly seek to satisfy them by becoming
what Wally calls a "hitchhiker" - by attaching ourselves to a living human
being.
If, instead, you believe that consciousness survives death, that this is
only one of many lifetimes you are living, that you are here to live and
learn to be more loving and compassionate and to raise your vibrations
through thought, word and deed - you will live a different reality.
In fact, according to Mark Macy, David Hawkins, Bruce Lipton, Rob Williams
and others discussed in People Who Don't Know They're Dead, our beliefs
create a level of vibration, an attractor field, which literally attracts
our life.
5).In your opinion where does the other side exist?
From what I've read and experienced, it looks to me like "the other side"
exists "right here." Not a matter of sides so much as a matter of
frequency.
William James says that at the moment of death we slip out of our physical
body as we might an overcoat, that we continue to exist in the form around
which our physical bodies originally grew - our spirit body. He says there
is no sudden change of personality and our surroundings appear as before.
We are, in fact, exactly where we were. And the essence of who we are
continues.
A.E. Powell describes the astral plane as a condition of nature rather
than an actual location. In The Astral Body, he writes, "astral matter,
being much finer than physical matter, interpenetrates it." Thus, a being
living in the astral world may occupy the same space as a being living in
the physical world, and the one will be entirely unconscious of the other
and in no way impede their movements.
George G. Ritchie, describing his Near Death Experience, says,
"disembodied beings, completely unsuspected by the living, hovered right
on top of the physical things and people where their desires were
focused."
The astral plane is often referred to as the fourth dimension, as distinct
from the third or physical dimension we inhabit while in the body.
Drunvalo Melchizedek writes that the difference between dimensional worlds
is the frequency at which matter vibrates in these worlds. According to
Drunvalo and Sufis and quantum mechanics, everything in the universe
vibrates. Hence, everything in the universe can be described by its
wavelength. As we go up into higher dimensional levels, the wavelengths
get shorter and the energy gets higher. As you go down, wavelengths
lengthen and energy weakens.
One of the principles of Jin Shin Jyutsu, the five thousand year old
Japanese art of acupressure, is that matter and spirit exist at opposite
ends of the same continuum. They differ only in degree. Thus, spirit is
understood to be the finest form of matter; matter is understood to be the
densest form of spirit.
Paranormal investigator George W. Meek says, just as the room is filled
with radio signals, each signal remaining distinct by its frequency, so
are all the spiritual universes - "and there are hundreds of them - they'
re all sharing this space with our physical universe, like radio signals
sharing the room."
Mark Macy agrees that the room is full of invisible beings - from ghosts
to angels - that move in and out of our lives everyday. "The spirit worlds
are right here in the room with us at all times."
That feels true to me.
6). Does Wally share the same opinion?
Wally: Yes. Vic Darr once described seeing two or three "realities" in a
greenish fog - the residents of each reality oblivious to the others. He
saw Indians walking along the Kickapoo River in Wisconsin, an old stone
farmhouse, and a newer, wooden farmhouse all co-existing in the same
"space."
7). How does the pendulum come into it?
Wally's younger sister, Ruth, a psychiatric nurse and teacher of
psychiatric nursing, was thoroughly steeped in Western medicine. Not given
to "the woo woo" stuff her brother entertained, she nevertheless knew
enough about doctors to reject the prediction of an oncologist who refused
to let her collaborate in her own health care. He told her if she didn't
agree to chemotherapy and radiation she would be dead in two years.
Ruth refused his sentence and lived sixteen more years, the whole time
using her pendulum as an information dowser.
Taking responsibility for her own health care, Ruth opened herself to
alternative healing, became a practitioner and teacher of Healing Touch
and Therapeutic Touch and Jin Shin Jyutsu, treated herself and others as
she learned microcurrent, researched periodicals and websites for
supplements and herbs and cutting edge treatments - all the while using
her pendulum to tap into what she sensed her body knew about itself.
She'd grown adept at reading the subtle fluctuations in the energy fields
of those she worked on. She now began asking simple questions and making
positive statements to which the pendulum would react by moving clockwise
or counter-clockwise.
Soon, she seemed to have it with her all the time, often in her hand
without her being fully aware of it until something she said suddenly made
it move. She pendled menus at restaurants - asking what she should or
shouldn't eat. At the grocery store, she'd pendle eggs and melons. She
used the pendulum to diagnose physical ailments, choose healthcare
providers, and decide which supplements to take in what combinations for
how long.
Ruth learned to "listen to her body" as the primary source of information,
and the more she used the pendulum, the less she needed it, she said.
8.) What does the pendulum connect to?
The "mysterious force" said to move the dowsing rod or pendulum may be the
body's unconscious reaction to the dowser's "intent" or "request" to have
an answer, according to Christopher Bird in The Divining Hand.
Bird cites Jan Merta's belief that dowsing devices react only after the
human beings operating them pick up a signal that stimulates a
physiological reaction, a muscle movement. But, a signal from where? Merta
says all forms of dowsing will ultimately be explained as clairvoyance,
the ability to see at any given moment what is taking place elsewhere.
Kinesiology (muscle testing) is a system of feedback from the body itself,
a method used to connect with what the body knows about itself. Cell
knowledge. Every cell in our body knows what is going on in every other
cell of our body, according to Elmer Green and others. Cleve Backster says
our cells "talk" to each other and that the cells of one species even talk
to the cells of other species.
Ruth calls it "consciousness in the broadest sense. If you don't get in
its way, and maybe if you believe it, kinesiology and dowsing and the
pendulum, I think, are all related. It has as its basis the fact that we
are one and that we can be in touch with what we know, with what is
known."
Ruth and Wally believe that the pendulum taps into universal knowledge.
Universal knowledge - what is known, what is knowable, what is shared,
consciousness, the conscious field.
9). How does the pendulum "replace the psychic"?
One day Ruth realized that the pendulum was responding to the questions
Wally would have asked Lorraine if she had been there.
Questions like, has the spirit of Laurel's mother gone to the Light? Has
she attached to someone? To her roommate, Opal? Does so-and-so have a
hitchhiker? How many? Who is it?
Ruth and Wally began clearing earthbound spirits with the pendulum. Wally
thought he'd come up with the idea himself. Later, he found a book that he
'd read years before, "and it was all laid out in there. I'd even
underlined it." The book was Exorcism: How to Clear at a Distance a
Spirit-Possessed Person by Eugene Maurey.
10). What does your book have to do with what we already know about
altered states, near death experiences and life after death?
Everything.
11). What was the most important, life-changing thing you've learned
through your experiences with Wally and Ruth?
What has continued to grow for me is the pull toward finding out more
about consciousness. I quote Rob Williams in People Who Don't Know They're
Dead saying "Whether energy expresses itself as physical or nonphysical is
a matter of the speed at which molecules vibrate." And "mind is simply
molecules of YOU vibrating at a higher rate than the body molecules of
YOU."
The "body/mind connection" seems, finally, to be the recognition that,
while our brain is a physical mass of billions of cells cradled in our
skulls, our mind is an energy field that interpenetrates and surrounds it.
In fact, our minds may surround our entire body and extend - how far out?
How far beyond the physical body do our energy bodies go? How far beyond
the physical body does the conscious mind extend? How many minds are
there?
Erwin Schrodinger said, "The sum total of all the minds in the universe is
one."
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