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29 Dec 2004 05:43:29 PM |
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U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent in Iraq |
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between $30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
The U.S. has spent an average of $9.5 million every hour on the war and
occupation of Iraq. With a current price tag of $147 billion, the U.S. has
spent an average of about $228 million a day in Iraq. In other words, the
U.S. spends what it promised on the tsunami relief effort in less than four
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
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| User: "Jane" |
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29 Dec 2004 05:56:05 PM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:LiHAd.25995$nV.870814@news20.bellglobal.com...
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
The U.S. has spent an average of $9.5 million every hour on the war and
occupation of Iraq. With a current price tag of $147 billion, the U.S. has
spent an average of about $228 million a day in Iraq. In other words, the
U.S. spends what it promised on the tsunami relief effort in less than
four
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
And our Canadian government has pledged $4 million so far, which is a
disgrace!
No matter how much the Americans send, it will never be enough.
Jane
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent inIraq |
30 Dec 2004 01:33:45 AM |
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Jane wrote:
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:LiHAd.25995$nV.870814@news20.bellglobal.com...
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
The U.S. has spent an average of $9.5 million every hour on the war and
occupation of Iraq. With a current price tag of $147 billion, the U.S. has
spent an average of about $228 million a day in Iraq. In other words, the
U.S. spends what it promised on the tsunami relief effort in less than
four
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
And our Canadian government has pledged $4 million so far, which is a
disgrace!
No matter how much the Americans send, it will never be enough.
Jane
Canada has upped it to $40 million.
The $4 million was when there were a lot fewer deaths. Now that the
counting is almost done, it's obvious more was needed.
So, Canada is giving more than USA.
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| User: "Woods" |
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent inIraq |
29 Dec 2004 09:44:01 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:LiHAd.25995$nV.870814@news20.bellglobal.com...
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
The U.S. has spent an average of $9.5 million every hour on the war and
occupation of Iraq. With a current price tag of $147 billion, the U.S. has
spent an average of about $228 million a day in Iraq. In other words, the
U.S. spends what it promised on the tsunami relief effort in less than
four
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
And our Canadian government has pledged $4 million so far, which is a
disgrace!
What are you talking about? Canada has roughly 10% of the population of
the US, giving more than 10% of what the US gives is more than
sufficient! (Besides, I've just seen elsewhere that Canada is giving
much, much more than that).
No matter how much the Americans send, it will never be enough.
It will be enough for those who are fortunate enough to benefit from it.
You can't solve all the world's troubles, but you can make a dent in them.
Woods
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent in Iraq |
29 Dec 2004 10:03:22 PM |
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"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jane wrote:
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:LiHAd.25995$nV.870814@news20.bellglobal.com...
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the
US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
The U.S. has spent an average of $9.5 million every hour on the war and
occupation of Iraq. With a current price tag of $147 billion, the U.S.
has
spent an average of about $228 million a day in Iraq. In other words,
the
U.S. spends what it promised on the tsunami relief effort in less than
four
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
And our Canadian government has pledged $4 million so far, which is a
disgrace!
What are you talking about? Canada has roughly 10% of the population of
the US, giving more than 10% of what the US gives is more than
sufficient! (Besides, I've just seen elsewhere that Canada is giving
much, much more than that).
Yep, I saw that, too, just after I posted this. All day they were saying $4
million, though.
No matter how much the Americans send, it will never be enough.
It will be enough for those who are fortunate enough to benefit from it.
You can't solve all the world's troubles, but you can make a dent in
them.
My point is, the Americans will be criticized no matter how much they give,
which is a shame, given that they help out in crisis' such as this one all
the time.
Jane
Woods
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent in Iraq |
29 Dec 2004 06:26:38 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:LiHAd.25995$nV.870814@news20.bellglobal.com...
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the
largest
hours in Iraq.
http://www.democracynow.org
And our Canadian government has pledged $4 million so far, which is a
disgrace!
France Pledged $150,000 or about :)
No matter how much the Americans send, it will never be enough.
Jane
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| User: "Jane" |
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29 Dec 2004 06:14:41 PM |
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Oops! I guess our aid was increased to $40 million...just saw the headline
after I posted this! Still, it doesn't negate the fact that the US could
send billions and it would still not be enough.
Jane
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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29 Dec 2004 07:20:43 PM |
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"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Oops! I guess our aid was increased to $40 million...just saw the
headline
after I posted this! Still, it doesn't negate the fact that the US could
send billions and it would still not be enough.
Considering population and economic proportions, every Canadian dollar
should be matched with ten american dollars. But I am sure that every single
dollar that is contributed and spent to reduce the suffering and further
disasters is a dollar well appreciated by the victims. The estimates are
that several billion dollars will be needed to only tend to the most urgent
matters - such as providing water and shelter to disaster areas. If US was
to send a billion dollars of aid - that's only 0.7% of the cost of the Iraq
War so far - I think we'd see a major difference in how things will unfold
over the next few days and weeks. The fact of the matter is that United
States is the only country in the world capable of providing such amounts of
aid. And as the world leader, I don't see why United States cannot take the
lead in such matters, instead of leading much costlier efforts such as
invasions.
Stat.
Jane
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| User: "Woods" |
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent inIraq |
29 Dec 2004 09:46:25 PM |
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PLHAd.31896$Tn1.1284425@news20.bellglobal.com...
Oops! I guess our aid was increased to $40 million...just saw the
headline
after I posted this! Still, it doesn't negate the fact that the US could
send billions and it would still not be enough.
Considering population and economic proportions, every Canadian dollar
should be matched with ten american dollars. But I am sure that every single
dollar that is contributed and spent to reduce the suffering and further
disasters is a dollar well appreciated by the victims. The estimates are
that several billion dollars will be needed to only tend to the most urgent
matters - such as providing water and shelter to disaster areas. If US was
to send a billion dollars of aid - that's only 0.7% of the cost of the Iraq
War so far - I think we'd see a major difference in how things will unfold
over the next few days and weeks. The fact of the matter is that United
States is the only country in the world capable of providing such amounts of
aid. And as the world leader, I don't see why United States cannot take the
lead in such matters, instead of leading much costlier efforts such as
invasions.
Keep in mind that these are initial, disaster relief amounts, not final
amounts. There isn't even a full tally on what the immediate needs are,
let's not jump to conclusions about whether the aid will end up being
enough or not - none of the numbers are final.
Woods
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| User: "Wally Anglesea™" |
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29 Dec 2004 06:04:58 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between $30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
<SNIP>
--
"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
DM in meltdown mode, February 2003
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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| Title: Re: U.S. Pledges $35 Million in Relief Aid; 1/4200 Amount Spent in Iraq |
29 Dec 2004 07:25:39 PM |
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"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters are
of outmost significance - particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
Stat.
<SNIP>
--
"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
DM in meltdown mode, February 2003
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29 Dec 2004 07:59:46 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
--
"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
DM in meltdown mode, February 2003
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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30 Dec 2004 02:30:10 AM |
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"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the
US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this situation.
At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY efforts. Do you
have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in order
to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be getting
paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is that
it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people and so
helping them would be doing Devil's work. But if you are chipping in from
your own wallet, I don't understand your knee-jerk reactions to the content
of the posted messages. Here is a very clear cut case of how politics and
political pressure can be an important instrument to increase the amounts of
government donations. Putting pressure on politicians in Washington to cough
up more of the public money for aid can go a long way. Powell has already
said (not clear with or without permission from his superiors) that
assistance will eventually exceed $1 billion. Bush was hinting at more money
as well from the back of his Ranch today. I think with the right amount of
political pressure from the public, we can make this happen. That is a
political agenda that I think you should personally get involved in and help
further its position. That is at least my view point ;-) Who knows, could
even help bring your friends back home?
Stat.
P.S. MonsieurStat does not get any commissions or other monetary rewards if
the amount of US government's donations reach or exceed 1 billion dollars.
He only thinks that this is an appropriate amount given the difficulties of
US economy.
--
"FOR I HAVE BECOME VENGEANCE AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH"
"YOUR DOOM IS WRITTEN IN THE STARS...."
"THE DREADED NAME HAS BEEN REVEALED...YOUR DOOM IS NEAR..."
DM in meltdown mode, February 2003
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30 Dec 2004 09:10:36 AM |
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the
US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this situation.
At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY efforts. Do you
have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in order
to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be getting
paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is that
it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people and so
helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 07:59:56 PM |
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"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in
the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy",
the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35
million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend
between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the
Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters
are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this
situation. At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY
efforts. Do you have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the
hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will
use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in
order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the
background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be
getting paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is
that it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people and
so helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Do you remember what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said after the 9-11
attacks?
- this was the wrath of God brought upon us because of gays and lesbians.
(or something along those lines)
As it turned out, the gay marriage issue tipped the balance in the last
elections in favor of Republicans.
The irony of it all...
Stat.
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 08:09:10 PM |
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"MonsieurStat" <monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeidnXqPLuHxh0ncRVn-pA@vista3media.com...
MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in
the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy",
the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35
million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend
between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the
Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters
are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this
situation. At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY
efforts. Do you have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the
hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will
use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in
order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the
background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be
getting paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in
perspective is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is
that it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you
are one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those
people and so helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Do you remember what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said after the 9-11
attacks?
- this was the wrath of God brought upon us because of gays and lesbians.
(or something along those lines)
As it turned out, the gay marriage issue tipped the balance in the last
elections in favor of Republicans.
The irony of it all...
Stat.
Here's the full dialog - (it wasn't just the fault of gays and lesbians, but
a whole bunch of people)
Partial transcript of comments from the Thursday, September 13, 2001 edition
of the "700 Club"
JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us
so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that
we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as
Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only
the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters - the
Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats - what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible
as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact - if, in fact - God continues to
lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what
we deserve.
PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the
antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the
major population.
JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, yes.
JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing
God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God
out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to
bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we
destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe
that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and
the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle,
the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to
secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say "you helped
this happen."
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted
that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're
responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top
people, of course, is the court system.
JERRY FALWELL: Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU, and all the
Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally
disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress
as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang
"God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged"? In other words, when
the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing
to do is what we ought to be doing all the time - calling upon God.
PAT ROBERTSON: Amen
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 10:25:04 PM |
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeidnXqPLuHxh0ncRVn-pA@vista3media.com...
MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in
the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy",
the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35
million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend
between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the
Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters
are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this
situation. At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY
efforts. Do you have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the
hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will
use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in
order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the
background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be
getting paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is
that it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people and
so helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Do you remember what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said after the 9-11
attacks?
- this was the wrath of God brought upon us because of gays and lesbians.
(or something along those lines)
Oh, yeah, I remember the nutcases shooting themselves in the foot on
that, but they didn't condemn anyone for trying to help the victims.
Notice how they don't get much credence from anyone these days, though.
As it turned out, the gay marriage issue tipped the balance in the last
elections in favor of Republicans.
The irony of it all...
The 2004 election is over, time to move on ..... did you catch how Jeb
is going to visit the tsumani-ravaged area with Colin Powell? What do
you want to guess that he's being groomed for the White House?
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 10:53:22 PM |
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"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
The 2004 election is over, time to move on ..... did you catch how Jeb is
going to visit the tsumani-ravaged area with Colin Powell? What do you
want to guess that he's being groomed for the White House?
Interesting thought. The Bush Dynasty! How many other siblings do they have?
Maybe between now and the end of Jeb's term, one of the Bush girls will be
ready for action. Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America / World
for the next 1000 years!
Stat.
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 11:15:46 PM |
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ZadnbSN3uQ5SUncRVn-2Q@vista3media.com...
[snip]
The 2004 election is over, time to move on ..... did you catch how
Jeb is
going to visit the tsumani-ravaged area with Colin Powell? What do
you
want to guess that he's being groomed for the White House?
Interesting thought. The Bush Dynasty! How many other siblings do
they have?
Maybe between now and the end of Jeb's term, one of the Bush girls
will be
ready for action. Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America /
World
for the next 1000 years!
Merde !!!!!!!!!
Non ! NON ! N O N !
May the Good Lord above help us !!!!
Hooroo
Stat.
Woods
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31 Dec 2004 02:54:58 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:53:22 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America / World
for the next 1000 years!
Don't EVER say that again! :)
Really, though...
Hell on earth. I think I'd pack up and move to Mars .. (no *****)
Dani
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31 Dec 2004 11:41:31 AM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0s4at0pu9iorp1vkle54aljikbprcm6rhk@4ax.com...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:53:22 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America / World
for the next 1000 years!
Don't EVER say that again! :)
Really, though...
Hell on earth. I think I'd pack up and move to Mars .. (no *****)
hehehehehe
It was Wood's idea (that Jeb Bush is being groomed for the WhiteHouse), and
I think she is onto something.
Jeb is the perfect candidate. In his political carrier, he's exactly at the
right place. And being G.W.'s brother, he's almost assured a victory. I know
you are not crazy about George, but he's actually quite a popular chap in
America, and his popularity can only increase in the next 4 years. If Jeb
plays his cards right, he can have Americans eating out of the palm of his
hands. Hey, maybe he won't even need to cheat!
How much does it cost to go to Mars these days?
Stat.
Dani
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04 Jan 2005 03:47:17 AM |
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:41:31 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0s4at0pu9iorp1vkle54aljikbprcm6rhk@4ax.com...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:53:22 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America / World
for the next 1000 years!
Don't EVER say that again! :)
Really, though...
Hell on earth. I think I'd pack up and move to Mars .. (no *****)
hehehehehe
It was Wood's idea (that Jeb Bush is being groomed for the WhiteHouse), and
I think she is onto something.
Jeb is the perfect candidate. In his political carrier, he's exactly at the
right place. And being G.W.'s brother, he's almost assured a victory. I know
you are not crazy about George, but he's actually quite a popular chap in
America,
He's popular in only *one half* of America. *Please* please do not
forget that. You don't know how it burns me inside to hear that we
"deserved" getting him back - and we are *ALL* idiots. No, no no!
Not I, Sir, not I. And not half of us.
Please all of you out there - remmeber us! We don't want him; we
tried our hardest to keep him out of office - WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE!
and his popularity can only increase in the next 4 years. If Jeb
plays his cards right, he can have Americans eating out of the palm of his
hands. Hey, maybe he won't even need to cheat!
How much does it cost to go to Mars these days?
I don't know - but what other option do I have, Stat! Help me out
here, Bud. If Duhhhbleyer will rule over this whole *planet* then
I can't go to Ireland or England (like I thought of the day he got put
back in office by 58 million morons.. I changed my mind though; why
let that crawling slime drive me from my homeland? Ha.. back in the
day, everyone was trying to leave their homelands to come to America;
now we're the ones who want to get OUT!!! ..oh the irony).
He won't rule the planet though .. Uh-Ah.. he's out in 4 years.
Hmmm.. speaking of which - do you think I should run for office
in '08? .. ;)
Dani
Stat.
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05 Jan 2005 12:04:29 AM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1qokt0thfr1gm3sal1ktrue0vpk80qer58@4ax.com...
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:41:31 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0s4at0pu9iorp1vkle54aljikbprcm6rhk@4ax.com...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:53:22 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Theoretically, the Bushes could rule over America / World
for the next 1000 years!
Don't EVER say that again! :)
Really, though...
Hell on earth. I think I'd pack up and move to Mars .. (no *****)
hehehehehe
It was Wood's idea (that Jeb Bush is being groomed for the WhiteHouse),
and
I think she is onto something.
Jeb is the perfect candidate. In his political carrier, he's exactly at
the
right place. And being G.W.'s brother, he's almost assured a victory. I
know
you are not crazy about George, but he's actually quite a popular chap in
America,
He's popular in only *one half* of America. *Please* please do not
forget that. You don't know how it burns me inside to hear that we
"deserved" getting him back - and we are *ALL* idiots. No, no no!
Not I, Sir, not I. And not half of us.
Please all of you out there - remmeber us! We don't want him; we
tried our hardest to keep him out of office - WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE!
and his popularity can only increase in the next 4 years. If Jeb
plays his cards right, he can have Americans eating out of the palm of his
hands. Hey, maybe he won't even need to cheat!
How much does it cost to go to Mars these days?
I don't know - but what other option do I have, Stat! Help me out
here, Bud. If Duhhhbleyer will rule over this whole *planet* then
I can't go to Ireland or England (like I thought of the day he got put
back in office by 58 million morons..
I honestly hope there are not 58 million morons in your country:-) Because
if that is the case, it's all over for America already. Why care what Bush
does with it? Let's be optimistic and hope that is not the case. I think
what is really happening is that a lot of people don't follow politics that
closely (which might actually be a wise choice:-) They could still get out
there and vote, if for nothing else but to support their community. Granted,
some may consider this approach to democracy as moranic, but a lot of people
don't really care about democracy all that much. It's a lot of work,
decision making, being wrong, headaches, heartaches... who needs it when
there are easy to follow recipes that have worked as long as memory cares to
remember. Just follow the FAITH. Who is to say they are the morons? maybe
it's the other half? Seems to me they are enjoying their lives at least as
much as the other half...
I changed my mind though; why
let that crawling slime drive me from my homeland? Ha.. back in the
day, everyone was trying to leave their homelands to come to America;
now we're the ones who want to get OUT!!! ..oh the irony).
There are still millions of people who would give an arm to come to America.
It's no pic-nic out there. Leaving America would be crazy. Really.
Especially if Bush's plan for taking over the planet works. What better
place to be than in America??? I mean, let's be realistic here. If that was
to happen, America would be even more biggest, strongest, richest, safest,
easiest, jobbiest, bestest of everything. Hello??? I smell opportunity here.
Especially for young people like yourself. In the NWO, America will be like
the command centre of the world. You could have your own Island to rule. Of
course you will have to work hard, and work your way up the ladder. But the
sky is no longer the limit. Hey, you could even have your own planet!!
He won't rule the planet though .. Uh-Ah.. he's out in 4 years.
Hmmm.. speaking of which - do you think I should run for office
in '08? .. ;)
By all means. Will be a good experience;-)
Stat.
Dani
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:59:56 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in
the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy",
the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35
million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend
between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the
Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters
are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this
situation. At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY
efforts. Do you have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the
hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will
use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in
order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the
background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be
getting paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is
that it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people and
so helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Do you remember what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said after the 9-11
attacks?
- this was the wrath of God brought upon us because of gays and lesbians.
(or something along those lines)
As it turned out, the gay marriage issue tipped the balance in the last
elections in favor of Republicans.
The irony of it all...
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are freaks. All of the wrath in the
world is brought upon by the *SINNERS*!!! .. in their outrageous,
maniacal, frantic minds that is.
I was raised to believe that God is a compassionate, accepting,
forgiving, unconditional loving God. - now that's not saying that we
can run around sinning over and over again because we know he will
forgive us.
But these nut-bags would have us believe that the "sinners" cause him
to bring all the troubles in the world. Nut-bags!
Has Jerry and Pat forgotten that we were created in *his* image, and
we are all his children?
Don't listen to a word spoken by those fools.
Dani
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31 Dec 2004 11:43:28 AM |
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"Dani" <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:59:56 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Woods" <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eeidnXqPLuHxh0ncRVn-pA@vista3media.com...
MonsieurStat wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote in message news:rtn6t0luedj885a0a42kilhmm4n8eu6baq@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au>
wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in
the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in
the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million
for
the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy",
the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35
million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif
than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend
between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the
Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital,
as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters
are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
Do you speak English?
I am telling you that politics play a very important role in this
situation. At least that is my opinion and that is where I invest MY
efforts. Do you have a problem with that?
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the
hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will
use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in
order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources
there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited
for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the
background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
--> Further my position
--> Further my own view point
You have this all figured out, haven't you? Do you think I should be
getting paid for this perhpas?
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in
perspective
is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
Let's hope your friends make it back home OK.
About donating your hard earned cash - GOOD FOR YOU! All I can say is
that it is for a good cause!
And I guess it is safe to assume that you are NOT against monetary
contributions to this cause. For a while you had me thinking that you
are
one of these nut cases that thinks God brought this upon those people
and
so helping them would be doing Devil's work.
<snip>
Does anyone actually think like that?!? I've certainly never heard
anything along those lines!
Do you remember what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said after the 9-11
attacks?
- this was the wrath of God brought upon us because of gays and lesbians.
(or something along those lines)
As it turned out, the gay marriage issue tipped the balance in the last
elections in favor of Republicans.
The irony of it all...
Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are freaks. All of the wrath in the
world is brought upon by the *SINNERS*!!! .. in their outrageous,
maniacal, frantic minds that is.
I was raised to believe that God is a compassionate, accepting,
forgiving, unconditional loving God. - now that's not saying that we
can run around sinning over and over again because we know he will
forgive us.
But these nut-bags would have us believe that the "sinners" cause him
to bring all the troubles in the world. Nut-bags!
Has Jerry and Pat forgotten that we were created in *his* image, and
we are all his children?
Don't listen to a word spoken by those fools.
I only watch the 700 Club on Sundays. Sometimes they have interesting stuff
in there.
Cheers,
Stat.
Dani
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29 Dec 2004 09:54:23 PM |
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Wally Anglesea™ wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:25:39 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
"Wally AngleseaT >" <"<wanglese"@spammersbigpondareparasites.net.au> wrote
in message news:bdh6t058fjopun38vv5bt3dotjdenadlvu@4ax.com...
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:43:29 -0500, "MonsieurStat"
<monsieurstat@gmail.com> wrote:
Humanitarian groups have launched what is believed to be the largest
relief
effort in the world's history. Billions of dollars will be needed in the
coming weeks.
While the Bush administration has pledged to play a major role in the
relief
effort, it is already coming under criticism for its handling of the
crisis.
On Monday, the Bush administration pledged an initial $15 million for the
effort. After a top UN official described the donation as "stingy", the US
pledged another $20 million bringing the total offering to $35 million.
And then withdrew the remark. The US puts more money into releif than
any other country.
To put the figure in perspective, President Bush plans to spend between
$30
and $40 million for his upcoming inauguration celebration.
And the amount pledged to victims of the tsunami is dwarfed by the Bush
administration's war effort in Iraq.
True, but it doesn't stop you from climbing over the bodies of the
dead to promote your agenda, does it? I'd rather concentrate on the
disaster, and mitigating it, than trying to make political capital, as
you seek to do.
The fact of the matter is that the political context of such disasters are
of outmost significance
*****. You just want to further your political ranting, you moron.
- particularly in volatile areas such as Sri Lanka
and Indonesia. Already the people of places like Aceh - one of the hardest
hit by the disaster - are fearing that the Indonesian government will use
the situation to further its military occupation of their region in order to
further secure Exxon Mobil's exploitations of natural gas ressources there.
And then there is the question of how the aid efforts are exploited for
geo-political gains, etc. In fact, ignoring the politics in the background
of all of this is itself a formula for disaster.
<Snigger> Se what I mean, so obsessed with a political aim, you climb
over the dead to further your position. The disaster is meaningless to
you, except as an excuse to further your own viewpoint.
Now tell me how YOU are "concentrating" on this disaster - what
"mitigations" you suggest we undertake, if putting things in perspective is
"climbing over dead bodies" Would parroting senseless dribble do it?
You might want to wonder why the countries involved have continuously
rejected proposals from geologists lobbying for tsunami warning
systems in the region, instead choosing to spend money on weapons,
etc.
What am I doing to mitigate it? Right now I'm more concerned with
finding a couple of mates who went over there and haven't reported
back in, OK? What am I doing? I'm donating hard earned cash, instead
of trying to further a dumb political stance, unlike you, who looks
for every opportunity to further an ignorant political bigotry.
I hope you hear from your friends, Wally. Hopefully, they couldn't get
into the primo, beachfront spots and weren't in the danger zone when the
waves hit. (My sister-in-law & family had planned to be in Thailand for
the holidays, but hubby didn't make the reservations early enough to get
into their favorite island resort, so they went elsewhere.)
Woods
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30 Dec 2004 01:42:54 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:54:23 -0600, Woods <woodsuw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I hope you hear from your friends, Wally. Hopefully, they couldn't get
into the primo, beachfront spots and weren't in the danger zone when the
waves hit. (My sister-in-law & family had planned to be in Thailand for
the holidays, but hubby didn't make the reservations early enough to get
into their favorite island resort, so they went elsewhere.)
Woods
Thanks Woods. They turned up this afternoon. They were way, way
inland, on a trek.
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