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User: "Mike T"
Date: 01 Jul 2003 03:40:46 PM
Object: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court
U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations seeking
NATO membership, because they have supported the International Criminal Court
and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.
As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or face the
suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22 countries.
But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.
Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military aid in the
world.
A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting up the
international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military aid would
apply.
But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection Act of
2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major non-NATO allies."
Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries subject
to the suspension of military aid are:
Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Brazil,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia,
Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Lesotho,
Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Namibia, Nauru,
Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Serbia
and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Tanzania,
Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.
The countries which received presidential waivers are:
Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras, Macedonia,
Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Tajikistan
and Uganda.


.

User: "Scott Kuli"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 04 Jul 2003 04:31:28 PM
Good for the US. The ICC is nothing but a forum for UN
politics to be expressed as the prosecution of those who don't go
along with them. That being the US, it makes sense to me that the US
would back out of such an agreement.
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:40:46 GMT, Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com>
wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations seeking
NATO membership, because they have supported the International Criminal Court
and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.

As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or face the
suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22 countries.

But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military aid in the
world.

A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting up the
international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military aid would
apply.

But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection Act of
2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major non-NATO allies."

Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries subject
to the suspension of military aid are:

Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Brazil,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia,
Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Lesotho,
Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Namibia, Nauru,
Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Serbia
and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Tanzania,
Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.

The countries which received presidential waivers are:

Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras, Macedonia,
Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Tajikistan
and Uganda.


.

User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 01 Jul 2003 08:39:14 PM
Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com> wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

If I'm not mistaken, the U. S. decided not to issue its annual "world
human rights report" this year -- probably because the irony and mass
hypocricy would just too compelling. Now we have a number of people
in our government who can't allow U. S. citizens to fall under the
dictates of International Law since it would mean _they_ -- Bush,
Rumsfield, Franks, C. Rice, and even Kissinger -- would immediately be
demanded for extradiction to stand trial for their war crimes against
humanity.
How many a.r.s participants participate because they're human rights
or civil rights activists? The U. S. exported Scientology and has
refused to exterminate it because of a lack of money while at the same
time it engages in genocide around the world
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Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 03 Jul 2003 03:18:19 AM
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Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com> wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET


If I'm not mistaken, the U. S. decided not to issue its annual "world
human rights report" this year -- probably because the irony and mass
hypocricy would just too compelling. Now we have a number of people
in our government who can't allow U. S. citizens to fall under the
dictates of International Law since it would mean _they_ -- Bush,
Rumsfield, Franks, C. Rice, and even Kissinger -- would immediately be
demanded for extradiction to stand trial for their war crimes against
humanity.

How many a.r.s participants participate because they're human rights
or civil rights activists? The U. S. exported Scientology and has
refused to exterminate it because of a lack of money while at the same
time it engages in genocide around the world

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================================================================================
My God!! San Marino, Licthenstein and Andorra without US military aid!
Whatever will happen to the world?
Last time I was in San Marino I thought it was a pretty suburb of
Italy..it is in fact not much more than that. The same applies to
Licthenstein..Hell..you don't even know that you are in the place
without asking someone local!
I go to Andorra once a month. It's a pretty place, tiny and perched on
the top of the Pyrenees. Perhaps the aid withdrawn will effect their
mighty naval fleet?
Their army consists of customs officers trying to help France and
Spain in reducing the worst of the excess allowance of cigarettes and
alcohol from smuggling, in this tax-free Principality, and from saving
climbers from avalanches.
Oh this will hurt so much. Nasty Mr Bush..it must surely signal the
end of the world.
Ummm.. just what military aid does the US give these example Countries
anyway?
================================================================================
.
User: "no"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 03 Jul 2003 09:02:54 PM
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Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com> wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET


If I'm not mistaken, the U. S. decided not to issue its annual "world
human rights report" this year -- probably because the irony and mass
hypocricy would just too compelling. Now we have a number of people
in our government who can't allow U. S. citizens to fall under the
dictates of International Law since it would mean _they_ -- Bush,
Rumsfield, Franks, C. Rice, and even Kissinger -- would immediately be
demanded for extradiction to stand trial for their war crimes against
humanity.

How many a.r.s participants participate because they're human rights
or civil rights activists? The U. S. exported Scientology and has
refused to exterminate it because of a lack of money while at the same
time it engages in genocide around the world

===========================================================================

=====

My God!! San Marino, Licthenstein and Andorra without US military aid!
Whatever will happen to the world?

Last time I was in San Marino I thought it was a pretty suburb of
Italy..it is in fact not much more than that. The same applies to
Licthenstein..Hell..you don't even know that you are in the place
without asking someone local!
I go to Andorra once a month. It's a pretty place, tiny and perched on
the top of the Pyrenees. Perhaps the aid withdrawn will effect their
mighty naval fleet?
Their army consists of customs officers trying to help France and
Spain in reducing the worst of the excess allowance of cigarettes and
alcohol from smuggling, in this tax-free Principality, and from saving
climbers from avalanches.

Oh this will hurt so much. Nasty Mr Bush..it must surely signal the
end of the world.
Ummm.. just what military aid does the US give these example Countries
anyway?
===========================================================================

=====
It made the headlines. That's what matters. The fact is the White House
doesn't care for the ICC making rulings about Americans and sees it as a
threat. That's embarrassing. Whether it's military aid or some other
punishment matters little to many nations.
.
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Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 04 Jul 2003 08:26:21 PM
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Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com> wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET


If I'm not mistaken, the U. S. decided not to issue its annual "world
human rights report" this year -- probably because the irony and mass
hypocricy would just too compelling. Now we have a number of people
in our government who can't allow U. S. citizens to fall under the
dictates of International Law since it would mean _they_ -- Bush,
Rumsfield, Franks, C. Rice, and even Kissinger -- would immediately be
demanded for extradiction to stand trial for their war crimes against
humanity.

How many a.r.s participants participate because they're human rights
or civil rights activists? The U. S. exported Scientology and has
refused to exterminate it because of a lack of money while at the same
time it engages in genocide around the world


===========================================================================

=====

My God!! San Marino, Licthenstein and Andorra without US military aid!
Whatever will happen to the world?

Last time I was in San Marino I thought it was a pretty suburb of
Italy..it is in fact not much more than that. The same applies to
Licthenstein..Hell..you don't even know that you are in the place
without asking someone local!
I go to Andorra once a month. It's a pretty place, tiny and perched on
the top of the Pyrenees. Perhaps the aid withdrawn will effect their
mighty naval fleet?
Their army consists of customs officers trying to help France and
Spain in reducing the worst of the excess allowance of cigarettes and
alcohol from smuggling, in this tax-free Principality, and from saving
climbers from avalanches.

Oh this will hurt so much. Nasty Mr Bush..it must surely signal the
end of the world.
Ummm.. just what military aid does the US give these example Countries
anyway?


===========================================================================

=====

It made the headlines. That's what matters. The fact is the White House
doesn't care for the ICC making rulings about Americans and sees it as a
threat. That's embarrassing. Whether it's military aid or some other
punishment matters little to many nations.

===========================================================================

=====

That's the most moronic response I have ever heard. "It made the
headlines and that what matters".

The White House made the headlines.

What bloody matters is a small thing known as truth. Not rubbish to
sell papers.

Tell the papers.

"Punish" ??? Who the Hell do you think you are.a schoolmaster dealing
with his class?

I didn't punish anyone. Apparently the White House was withdrawing military
aid. Had a list checked it twice gonna find out if you're naughty or nice.
.




User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 01 Jul 2003 03:52:52 PM
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:40:46 GMT, Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com>
wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations seeking
NATO membership, because they have supported the International Criminal Court
and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.

As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or face the
suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22 countries.

But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military aid in the
world.

A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting up the
international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military aid would
apply.

But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection Act of
2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major non-NATO allies."

Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries subject
to the suspension of military aid are:

Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Brazil,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia,
Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia, Lesotho,
Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Namibia, Nauru,
Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Serbia
and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, Tanzania,
Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.

The countries which received presidential waivers are:

Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic of the
Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras, Macedonia,
Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Tajikistan
and Uganda.

Good for the US government. How big is the San Marino army any way?
Their total military budget in FY01 was around $700,000.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Giving society cheap abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of
giving an idiot child a machine gun." -- Dr. Paul Ehrlich
"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other
is wrong, but the middle is always evil." -- Ayn Rand
"...observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists amidst all
their appeals to nature and pleas for 'harmony with nature' there is
no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival.
Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot
survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision
i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears..." - AYN RAND
"The Anti-Industrial Revolution," The New Left, 136.
"In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -- Dosteovsky
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "Graham Payne"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 01 Jul 2003 06:25:33 PM
Good, I hope more countries start standing up to Emperor Bush. His churlish,
empty-headed aggression is pissing off the entire world. He can keep his
guns, and only play with his special buddy Ariel.
-The Anti-shrub.
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:3f01f2c8.24736979@news.verizon.net...

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:40:46 GMT, Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com>
wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations

seeking

NATO membership, because they have supported the International Criminal

Court

and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.

As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or

face the

suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22

countries.


But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military aid

in the

world.

A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting up

the

international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military

aid would

apply.

But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection Act

of

2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major non-NATO

allies."


Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries

subject

to the suspension of military aid are:

Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Brazil,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica,

Croatia,

Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia,

Lesotho,

Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Namibia,

Nauru,

Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino,

Serbia

and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland,

Tanzania,

Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.

The countries which received presidential waivers are:

Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic of

the

Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras, Macedonia,
Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone,

Tajikistan

and Uganda.

Good for the US government. How big is the San Marino army any way?
Their total military budget in FY01 was around $700,000.



----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Giving society cheap abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of
giving an idiot child a machine gun." -- Dr. Paul Ehrlich

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other
is wrong, but the middle is always evil." -- Ayn Rand

"...observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists amidst all
their appeals to nature and pleas for 'harmony with nature' there is
no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival.
Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot
survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision
i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears..." - AYN RAND
"The Anti-Industrial Revolution," The New Left, 136.

"In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -- Dosteovsky

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net

.
User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring tosupport the International Criminal Court 01 Jul 2003 07:41:01 PM
Graham Payne wrote:


Good, I hope more countries start standing up to Emperor Bush. His churlish,
empty-headed aggression is pissing off the entire world. He can keep his
guns, and only play with his special buddy Ariel.

This will only strengthen the France-German-Russia-EU alliance.
More countries will start using the Euro, the alliance will give out
loans based on the Euro, OPEC will move to the Euro and the U.S. will be
left out in the cold.
Bush sure is a uniter.

-The Anti-shrub.

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:3f01f2c8.24736979@news.verizon.net...

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:40:46 GMT, Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com>
wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations

seeking

NATO membership, because they have supported the International Criminal

Court

and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.

As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or

face the

suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22

countries.


But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military aid

in the

world.

A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting up

the

international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military

aid would

apply.

But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection Act

of

2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major non-NATO

allies."


Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries

subject

to the suspension of military aid are:

Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Brazil,
Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica,

Croatia,

Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia,

Lesotho,

Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Namibia,

Nauru,

Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino,

Serbia

and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland,

Tanzania,

Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.

The countries which received presidential waivers are:

Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic of

the

Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras, Macedonia,
Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone,

Tajikistan

and Uganda.

Good for the US government. How big is the San Marino army any way?
Their total military budget in FY01 was around $700,000.



----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Giving society cheap abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of
giving an idiot child a machine gun." -- Dr. Paul Ehrlich

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other
is wrong, but the middle is always evil." -- Ayn Rand

"...observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists amidst all
their appeals to nature and pleas for 'harmony with nature' there is
no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival.
Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot
survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision
i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears..." - AYN RAND
"The Anti-Industrial Revolution," The New Left, 136.

"In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -- Dosteovsky

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net

--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt
.
User: "no"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 02 Jul 2003 09:41:35 PM
Bush is embarrassing he USA again.
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Graham Payne wrote:


Good, I hope more countries start standing up to Emperor Bush. His

churlish,

empty-headed aggression is pissing off the entire world. He can keep his
guns, and only play with his special buddy Ariel.


This will only strengthen the France-German-Russia-EU alliance.

More countries will start using the Euro, the alliance will give out
loans based on the Euro, OPEC will move to the Euro and the U.S. will be
left out in the cold.

Bush sure is a uniter.

-The Anti-shrub.

"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:3f01f2c8.24736979@news.verizon.net...

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:40:46 GMT, Mike T <mkiketrt@hotmails.com>
wrote:

U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Tue July 1, 2003 11:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Tuesday suspended military
assistance to nearly 50 countries, including Colombia and six nations

seeking

NATO membership, because they have supported the International

Criminal

Court

and failed to exempt Americans from possible prosecution.

As the deadline passed for governments to sign exemption agreements or

face the

suspension of military aid, President Bush issued waivers for 22

countries.


But the 22 countries did not include Colombia, Bulgaria, Estonia,

Latvia,

Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

Colombia, where the government is fighting leftist guerrillas and drug
traffickers, has been one of the largest recipients of U.S. military

aid

in the

world.

A U.S. official said that if countries had ratified the treaty setting

up

the

international court and had not received a waiver, the ban on military

aid would

apply.

But the threat, enshrined in the American Service Members Protection

Act

of

2002, does not apply to the 19 NATO members and to nine "major

non-NATO

allies."


Based on the information initially available to Reuters, the countries

subject

to the suspension of military aid are:

Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Austria, Barbados, Belize, Benin,

Brazil,

Bulgaria, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Colombia, Costa Rica,

Croatia,

Cyprus, Dominica, Ecuador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, Ireland, Latvia,

Lesotho,

Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malawi, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands,

Namibia,

Nauru,

Niger, Paraguay, Peru, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San

Marino,

Serbia

and Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland,

Tanzania,

Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela and Zambia.

The countries which received presidential waivers are:

Albania, Afghanistan, Bolivia, Bosnia, Botswana, Democratic Republic

of

the

Congo, Djibouti, East Timor, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Honduras,

Macedonia,

Mauritius, Mongolia, Nigeria, Panama, Romania, Senegal, Sierra Leone,

Tajikistan

and Uganda.

Good for the US government. How big is the San Marino army any way?
Their total military budget in FY01 was around $700,000.



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"Giving society cheap abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of
giving an idiot child a machine gun." -- Dr. Paul Ehrlich

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other
is wrong, but the middle is always evil." -- Ayn Rand

"...observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists amidst all
their appeals to nature and pleas for 'harmony with nature' there is
no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival.
Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot
survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision
i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears..." - AYN RAND
"The Anti-Industrial Revolution," The New Left, 136.

"In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -- Dosteovsky

Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net


--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt

.
User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring tosupport the International Criminal Court 03 Jul 2003 05:36:45 PM
Fay wrote:


"no" <reenooeo@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:zJMMa.22741$C83.2146763@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net:

Bush is embarrassing he USA again.


By cutting off military aid to countries that hate us? I don't think so.

You're a moron.
Just because they disagree on the the international court issue doesn't
make them our enemy.
They are our allies. Or are you now accusing Bush of sending military
arms to our enemies?
Bush has asked some of those same countries to help in Iraq, and some
have agreed.
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Teddy Roosevelt
.



User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 03 Jul 2003 02:55:56 PM
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:38:15 GMT, Warren Stupidity
<weaselMark@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 02:34:18 GMT, Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> wrote:

"Graham Payne" <gpayne@NeOlSiP.nAeMt> wrote:

Good, I hope more countries start standing up to Emperor Bush. His churlish,
empty-headed aggression is pissing off the entire world. He can keep his
guns, and only play with his special buddy Ariel.


Bush is doing the right thing here. Only dumb liberals would
suggest we give up our autonomy. And only dumb liberals
would say that countries who act against our interests should
be rewarded.


Why shouldn't all countries be exempt from international war crimes
prosecution? Why, for example, shouldn't the members of the former
baath regime be exempt from such prosecution? Or is it just Our Great
Nation, the One True Nation Universal and Apostolic that ought to be
exempt? As we of course comply to the letter of the law in all matters
under the authority of the International Criminal Court, exactly what
is the concern here?

The winners of wars are always exempt from war crimes. the ICC, it's
laws and jurisdiction are moot. The USA doesn't recognize it.


==
Mark Roddy

"Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event like a
new Pearl Harbor."

-- Project for a New American Century,
-- the neocon cabal's blueprint for world empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org

----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Giving society cheap abundant energy . . . would be the equivalent of
giving an idiot child a machine gun." -- Dr. Paul Ehrlich
"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other
is wrong, but the middle is always evil." -- Ayn Rand
"...observe that in all the propaganda of the ecologists amidst all
their appeals to nature and pleas for 'harmony with nature' there is
no discussion of man's needs and the requirements of his survival.
Man is treated as if he were an unnatural phenomenon. Man cannot
survive in the kind of state of nature that the ecologists envision
i.e., on the level of sea urchins or polar bears..." - AYN RAND
"The Anti-Industrial Revolution," The New Left, 136.
"In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us,
'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -- Dosteovsky
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
.

User: "Foxtrot"

Title: Re: U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries for daring to support the International Criminal Court 03 Jul 2003 08:42:53 PM
Warren Stupidity <weaselMark@nospam.com> wrote:

Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> wrote:

Bush is doing the right thing here. Only dumb liberals would
suggest we give up our autonomy. And only dumb liberals
would say that countries who act against our interests should
be rewarded.


Why shouldn't all countries be exempt from international war crimes
prosecution? Why, for example, shouldn't the members of the former
baath regime be exempt from such prosecution? Or is it just Our Great
Nation, the One True Nation Universal and Apostolic that ought to be
exempt? As we of course comply to the letter of the law in all matters
under the authority of the International Criminal Court, exactly what
is the concern here?

What legitimizes claims of war crimes is the willingness and
the ability to enforce them. Who cares if a nation like Luxembourg
declares Bush or Rumsfeld to be war criminals? They can't
do squat about it. OTOH if we declare Hussein and his baath
goons to be war criminals, they're in deep *****.
Face it, there's no up side to the US joining the ICC.
.




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