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Date: 25 Sep 2007 10:58:51 PM
Object: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York
Hi peoplez !!!
Saw the footage on TV last night of the "protesters" at the
Ahmathingamejiggy demonstration in New York !!!
Virtually all 4 x 2's !!!
Not a straight nose in the crowd !!!
Not surprisingly.
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
===00===
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2525581.ece

From The TimesSeptember 25, 2007

US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New
York
James Bone in New York, Tim Reid and Tom Baldwin in Washington
President Ahmadinejad said yesterday that talk of American military
strikes against Iran threatened world security, as he tried to soften
his image in the West.
Greeted in New York by headlines that he was an evil madman, Mr
Ahmadinejad insisted that Iran "will not attack any country". He also
ducked a chance to accuse the United States of preparing for war,
telling a questioner: "That is not how I see it." Such talk in
America, he said, arose from anger, electoral purposes and "a cover
for policy failures over Iraq".
On the first day of a controversial visit to the US, he refused to
give an inch on Iran's nuclear plans, saying that his country had a
right to pursue a civilian programme. In comments guaranteed to enrage
a significant part of his audience in New York, he also reasserted his
refusal to recognise Israel, saying that the Jewish state was "based
on occupation and racism".
At an appearance at Columbia University yesterday he complained of
"insults" as he was on the receiving end of a rousing lecture on
freedom, Israel and the Holocaust from Lee Bollinger, the president of
Columbia University.
Mr Bollinger told the Iranian leader: "Mr President, you exhibit all
the signs of a petty and cruel dictator." To cheers the Freedom of
Speech scholar told Mr Ahmadinejad that his denial of the Holocaust
made him look "brazenly provocative or extraordinarily uneducated".
He also challenged the Iranian President for cracking down on
academics and students, calling for the destruction of Israel and
aiding terror groups, including insurgents killing American troops in
Iraq.
The Iranian leader stunned the audience by denying that homosexuality
existed in Iran. Asked about his government's persecution of gays, Mr
Ahmadinejad said: "In Iran we do not have homosexuals like in your
country. We do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who told you we
have it," he said.
An annoyed Mr Ahmadinejad complained about Mr Bollinger's "unfriendly
treatment". He said: "In many parts of his speech there were many
insults and claims that were incorrect unfortunately."
Jewish groups picketed the Iranian leader's appearance at Columbia
University - which had cancelled a similar invitation last year.
Even before he arrived, his visit stirred anger after he sought
permission to visit Ground Zero, which was refused. Before his
Colombia appearance he answered reporters' questions from Washington
via video link. He brushed off questions about human rights abuses in
Iran, saying that people there were "very joyous, happy people" and
that the women were "the freest women in the world".
Asked about comments last week by Bernard Kouchner, the French Foreign
Minister, that the world should prepare for war with Iran if nuclear
negotiations fail, he said: "It's bad whenever logic fails . . . to
engage in military threats." He added: "We think the talk of war is
basically a propaganda tool."
Confronted with an accusation yesterday by the US military that
Iranian surface-to-air missiles were being used to attack American
troops, he said: "Are you telling me the US military is defeated [in
Iraq] as a result of two or three weapons here or there? We think the
US military should seek an answer for its defeat elsewhere."
Mr Ahmadinejad landed in New York on Sunday evening for his third trip
to the city since taking office. Demonstrators in midtown Manhattan,
where he is staying in a five-star hotel, handed commuters placards
that said "Hitler Lives".
Presidential politics has played its part in Mr Ahmadinejad's
reception. Rudy Giuliani, the leading Republican contender and former
New York Mayor, branded the idea of a Ground Zero visit outrageous.
Mitt Romney, one of his rivals for the Republican nomination, called
for Mr Ahmadinejad to be indicted under the Genocide Convention for
calling for the destruction of Israel.
The Iranian Foreign Minister suggested that Mr Ahmadinejad, whose visa
restricts him to a 25-mile limit around the UN, may still go ahead
with a visit to Ground Zero. An Iranian news agency suggested that he
may even meet victims' families.
Hillary Clinton has weighed in with criticism of his visit to Columbia
University, as has Newt Gingrich, a possible late Republican
candidate.
Heated reaction
"Guest of dishonour"
NY Daily Post
"As a community dedicated to learning and scholarship, Columbia is
committed to confronting ideas . . . On occasion this will bring us
into contact with beliefs many, most or even all of us will find
offensive and even odious"
Lee C. Bollinger, Columbia University president
"If I were a president of the university, I would not have invited
him . . . He's a Holocaust-denier. He's a supporter of terrorism"
Hillary Clinton
"They have the right to invite who they want. I personally am not
going to get involved in criticising them . I wouldn't go to listen to
him"
Mayor Michael Bloomberg
"I think it is an outrage for the university to lend its prestige to a
dictator whose Government executes homosexuals, tortures and kills
journalists, lock up students"
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House of Representatives
"Hitler Lives"
Slogan on placards carried by protestors in midtown Manhattan
"I think it's important that people think about what he says"
Andrea Pereisz, 22, Columbia alumni
"Somebody who denies the Holocaust, it's clearly anti-Semitism"
Daniel Nussbaum, 21, Columbia student
"It's a free country. We wish the same were true in Iran"
Dana Perino, Whitehouse spokesman
============================
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User: "Pers3id"

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 26 Sep 2007 03:42:05 AM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "The Last 1911 Days - Uncle Wally
's WORLD WAR III NEWZ CENTER..... HOOROO !" <sgdecember2012@yahoo.ca> Spat
the Words

Hi peoplez !!!

Saw the footage on TV last night of the "protesters" at the
Ahmathingamejiggy demonstration in New York !!!

Virtually all 4 x 2's !!!

Not a straight nose in the crowd !!!

Not surprisingly.

HOOROO

UNCLE WALLY

===00===





http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article252558

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From The TimesSeptember 25, 2007


US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New
York


James Bone in New York, Tim Reid and Tom Baldwin in Washington

President Ahmadinejad said yesterday that talk of American military
strikes against Iran threatened world security, as he tried to soften
his image in the West.

Greeted in New York by headlines that he was an evil madman, Mr
Ahmadinejad insisted that Iran "will not attack any country". He also
ducked a chance to accuse the United States of preparing for war,
telling a questioner: "That is not how I see it." Such talk in
America, he said, arose from anger, electoral purposes and "a cover
for policy failures over Iraq".

This Iranian president mahmood ahmanutjob has more to worry about than
the USA.. looks like France now wants to nail his ***** to the wall.
Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country.


On the first day of a controversial visit to the US, he refused to
give an inch on Iran's nuclear plans, saying that his country had a
right to pursue a civilian programme. In comments guaranteed to enrage
a significant part of his audience in New York, he also reasserted his
refusal to recognise Israel, saying that the Jewish state was "based
on occupation and racism".

At an appearance at Columbia University yesterday he complained of
"insults" as he was on the receiving end of a rousing lecture on
freedom, Israel and the Holocaust from Lee Bollinger, the president of
Columbia University.

Mr Bollinger told the Iranian leader: "Mr President, you exhibit all
the signs of a petty and cruel dictator." To cheers the Freedom of
Speech scholar told Mr Ahmadinejad that his denial of the Holocaust
made him look "brazenly provocative or extraordinarily uneducated".

He also challenged the Iranian President for cracking down on
academics and students, calling for the destruction of Israel and
aiding terror groups, including insurgents killing American troops in
Iraq.

The Iranian leader stunned the audience by denying that homosexuality
existed in Iran. Asked about his government's persecution of gays, Mr
Ahmadinejad said: "In Iran we do not have homosexuals like in your
country. We do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who told you we
have it," he said.

An annoyed Mr Ahmadinejad complained about Mr Bollinger's "unfriendly
treatment". He said: "In many parts of his speech there were many
insults and claims that were incorrect unfortunately."

Jewish groups picketed the Iranian leader's appearance at Columbia
University - which had cancelled a similar invitation last year.

Even before he arrived, his visit stirred anger after he sought
permission to visit Ground Zero, which was refused. Before his
Colombia appearance he answered reporters' questions from Washington
via video link. He brushed off questions about human rights abuses in
Iran, saying that people there were "very joyous, happy people" and
that the women were "the freest women in the world".

Asked about comments last week by Bernard Kouchner, the French Foreign
Minister, that the world should prepare for war with Iran if nuclear
negotiations fail, he said: "It's bad whenever logic fails . . . to
engage in military threats." He added: "We think the talk of war is
basically a propaganda tool."

Confronted with an accusation yesterday by the US military that
Iranian surface-to-air missiles were being used to attack American
troops, he said: "Are you telling me the US military is defeated [in
Iraq] as a result of two or three weapons here or there? We think the
US military should seek an answer for its defeat elsewhere."

Mr Ahmadinejad landed in New York on Sunday evening for his third trip
to the city since taking office. Demonstrators in midtown Manhattan,
where he is staying in a five-star hotel, handed commuters placards
that said "Hitler Lives".

Presidential politics has played its part in Mr Ahmadinejad's
reception. Rudy Giuliani, the leading Republican contender and former
New York Mayor, branded the idea of a Ground Zero visit outrageous.
Mitt Romney, one of his rivals for the Republican nomination, called
for Mr Ahmadinejad to be indicted under the Genocide Convention for
calling for the destruction of Israel.

The Iranian Foreign Minister suggested that Mr Ahmadinejad, whose visa
restricts him to a 25-mile limit around the UN, may still go ahead
with a visit to Ground Zero. An Iranian news agency suggested that he
may even meet victims' families.

Hillary Clinton has weighed in with criticism of his visit to Columbia
University, as has Newt Gingrich, a possible late Republican
candidate.

Heated reaction

"Guest of dishonour"
NY Daily Post

"As a community dedicated to learning and scholarship, Columbia is
committed to confronting ideas . . . On occasion this will bring us
into contact with beliefs many, most or even all of us will find
offensive and even odious"
Lee C. Bollinger, Columbia University president

"If I were a president of the university, I would not have invited
him . . . He's a Holocaust-denier. He's a supporter of terrorism"
Hillary Clinton

"They have the right to invite who they want. I personally am not
going to get involved in criticising them . I wouldn't go to listen to
him"
Mayor Michael Bloomberg

"I think it is an outrage for the university to lend its prestige to a
dictator whose Government executes homosexuals, tortures and kills
journalists, lock up students"
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House of Representatives

"Hitler Lives"
Slogan on placards carried by protestors in midtown Manhattan

"I think it's important that people think about what he says"
Andrea Pereisz, 22, Columbia alumni

"Somebody who denies the Holocaust, it's clearly anti-Semitism"
Daniel Nussbaum, 21, Columbia student

"It's a free country. We wish the same were true in Iran"
Dana Perino, Whitehouse spokesman


============================


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User: "Werewolfy"

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 26 Sep 2007 04:42:10 AM
On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."
Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.
What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.
The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"
Interesting language, English.....;)
Werewolfy
.
User: "Pers3id"

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 26 Sep 2007 05:40:37 AM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Werewolfy <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk>
Spat the Words

On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."

Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.

What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.

I may like the 'bit of rabbit', but he still ends up roasting on
a skewer.
I used the house-fly metaphor because given the opportunity virtually
every animal alive would kill the housefly (I could be just a little
overly harsh with ahmanutjob). I suppose Russia and China don't want
to stomp on Iran. Sorry, I guess I'm biased. Nobody over here seems
to like mahmood ahmanutjob.


The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"

Interesting language, English.....;)

Werewolfy

.
User: "Doc"

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 27 Sep 2007 09:05:54 AM
"Pers3id" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns99B72F94236D1rrfkwrantispamattbic@216.196.97.136...

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Werewolfy
<Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk>
Spat the Words

On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."

Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.

What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.


I may like the 'bit of rabbit', but he still ends up roasting on
a skewer.

I used the house-fly metaphor because given the opportunity virtually
every animal alive would kill the housefly (I could be just a little
overly harsh with ahmanutjob). I suppose Russia and China don't want
to stomp on Iran. Sorry, I guess I'm biased. Nobody over here seems
to like mahmood ahmanutjob.



The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"

Interesting language, English.....;)

Werewolfy

Ahmadinejad's purported 'irrationality' was matched by the Dean of
Columbia's loss of clarity of mature reasoning in allowing him to speak
only to diss him before he could. And further worrisome irrational
behavior from Jews and other folks screaming that America is better off
not bleeding in its ears from what are essentially media-exploited
flamboyant or controversial leaders. There is no evidence whatsoever that
Iran or Mahmoud himself had anything to do with the 9-11 attack, and
nothing to prove they're going to use nuclear weapoons (when they get
them) on Israel or any other nation. The infamous 'wipe Israel off the
map' speech has been the subject of debate by analysts and linguists. I've
read learned people's analyses of that particular remark and found it
could be interpreted in a broader sense of support for Israel resistance
movements, and meant really as an extension of what Iranian leaders have
been saying for decades. As for his Holocaust remarks, it appears he is
echoing what other Iranian leaders (other than the US installed Pahlevi
regime) have said for a long time. Those 'evil' past leaders came and
went, and the world went on as usual with its business. I suspect the same
could happen with Iran's lesser power player. It is the Ayatollah Khameini
who holds more sway than he.
I'm more concerned today with ignorant manipulated Americans and their
militaristic government's programmed waves of hysteria and fanaticism that
seem like deja vu from the 20's and 30's, than the current coffee table
hand-wringing over a relatively small Muslim extremist groups's threats.
The great majority of Americans are accepting the overly promoted idea
that Iran is more dangerous than Iraq was, and are being led down a
pathway that is, looking back, strewn with hate and fear mongering
propaganda. This ratcheting up of tensions is a good example of an intense
short post 9-11 period whereas the drum beat of war has effectively all
but replaced common sense, negotiations, prudence, and wisdom.
In a violent-filled, exploitative, and strangely xenophobic culture, it is
the US and its incessant war drum beating that concerns me as a major
threat to world peace much more than any perception of threat from Iran,
N. Korea, or the terrorist movements.
Doc


.


User: ""

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 29 Sep 2007 05:29:01 AM
On Sep 26, 5:42 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."

Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.

What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.

The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"

Interesting language, English.....;)

Werewolfy

Interesting is how the chemical has your brain on fire now!!!
Very good yes?
Douche Bag!!!
Have you had your chemical lately?
.

User: ""

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 26 Sep 2007 07:01:23 AM
On Sep 26, 5:42 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."

Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.

What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.

The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"

Interesting language, English.....;)

Werewolfy

You are not interesting!!!! Douche Bag!!!
Had you chemical today yet have you?
.

User: ""

Title: Re: US threats are the real danger to peace, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells New York 28 Sep 2007 04:11:14 AM
On Sep 26, 5:42 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On 26 Sep, 09:42, Pers3id <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"Like the common house fly falls prey to virtually all other animals,
the mad mullahs find themselves at natural enmity with just about
every other country."

Interesting language, English.
Use a house fly as part of the cliche and add opinion, gives a
different view entirely.
No-one really likes House Flies, nasty irritating pestilent things.

What about rabbits? Everything seems to like 'a bit of rabbit'.

The paragraph has a different slant when written;
"Like the common Bunny Rabbit falls prey to virtually all other
animals, the ruling authorities of the Middle East find themselves at
natural enmity with just about every more powerful Nation"

Interesting language, English.....;)

Werewolfy

You are not only Douche Bag!!!! But Poltroon !!!
.




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