Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches
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In article <20040517040847.09206.00001503@mb-m13.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Sure sounds like cutting and running to me. If we leave now, we can expect to
see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
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17 May 2004 06:15:28 PM |
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In article <20040517040847.09206.00001503@mb-m13.aol.com>,
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job
done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Sure sounds like cutting and running to me. If we leave now, we can
expect to
see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
Do you really think a shakey gov't with little-to-no security forces at
their disposal are susceptible to takeover by terrorists? Do you think Bush
is so stupid to let this happen? Do you think Bush is so shallow that he
would use the phrase 'Mission Accomplished' again when the last of the
troops arrive home before the November elections?
I know I do ...
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18 May 2004 10:18:22 AM |
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
I suspect that you want us to stay in Iraq, but to just sit there like ducks
waiting to get shot, then you and your Liberal friends will be able to keep
complaining.
Tony
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18 May 2004 11:09:44 AM |
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In article <20040518111822.02178.00000820@mb-m25.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
You obviously haven't been paying a bit of attention whatsoever. Does the phrase
"Told you so!" mean anything to you? The anti-war "Liberals" wanted to avoid
the negative outcome for America that was the inevitable outcome of Bush's
fiasco.
I suspect that you want us to stay in Iraq, but to just sit there like ducks
waiting to get shot, then you and your Liberal friends will be able to keep
complaining.
I think you can expect your good pals Cheny and Rummy to make sure that's what
happens.
Woods
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18 May 2004 01:59:54 PM |
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In article <20040518111822.02178.00000820@mb-m25.aol.com>,
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can
expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
You obviously haven't been paying a bit of attention whatsoever. Does the
phrase
"Told you so!" mean anything to you?
It likely doesn't ... since nothing a NeoCon ever does turns out bad. And
this is due to the wonderous drugs provided by Dr. Spin, the GOP physician.
The other possibility is Tony is a silent sufferer of Attention Deficit
Disorder with a short term memory problem. Maybe if the 'Liberals' in the NG
are feeling generous enough we could start a collection to pay for his
testing. It could, in the end, save us years of typing and retyping.
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20 May 2004 04:49:25 AM |
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can
expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
You obviously haven't been paying a bit of attention whatsoever. Does the
phrase
"Told you so!" mean anything to you? The anti-war "Liberals" wanted to avoid
the negative outcome for America that was the inevitable outcome of Bush's
fiasco.
Yeah, but you have no solution now, all you and all Liberals do is complain
that we're there, yet when the suggestion is made that we might leave, you say
we can't.
Obviously you are all confused.
I suspect that you want us to stay in Iraq, but to just sit there like ducks
waiting to get shot, then you and your Liberal friends will be able to keep
complaining.
I think you can expect your good pals >Cheny and Rummy to make sure that's
what happens.
And you'll be happy, so what are you complaining about?
Tony
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20 May 2004 04:47:42 PM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can
expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking
our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
You obviously haven't been paying a bit of attention whatsoever. Does the
phrase
"Told you so!" mean anything to you? The anti-war "Liberals" wanted to
avoid
the negative outcome for America that was the inevitable outcome of
Bush's
fiasco.
Yeah, but you have no solution now, all you and all Liberals do is
complain
that we're there, yet when the suggestion is made that we might leave, you
say
we can't.
And you have a solution? Just walk away and leave them to their own devices?
Maybe ... but don't count on a democracy ever taking hold there.... or much
stability for that matter. It'll be a complete mulit-billion dollar
write-off and failure. If Bush is going 'stick to the course' as he says,
then don't turn around and start blaming Liberals for it. The polls are
showing a huge loss of support with little to no chance of ever rebounding.
Obviously you are all confused.
Pfffffftttttttttt ... who the hell are you talking to ??? The little voice
inside your head?
I suspect that you want us to stay in Iraq, but to just sit there like
ducks
waiting to get shot, then you and your Liberal friends will be able to
keep
complaining.
I think you can expect your good pals >Cheny and Rummy to make sure
that's
what happens.
And you'll be happy, so what are you complaining about?
Get a grip on reality for a day or two will ya?
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20 May 2004 06:53:11 PM |
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In article <20040520054925.21319.00001761@mb-m04.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
Sure sounds like cutting and running to >me. If we leave now, we can
expect
to see Iraq become Terrorist Haven.
Woods
I suggest you make up your mind. Day in and day out you are attacking our
mission in Iraq, now you want us to stay?
You obviously haven't been paying a bit of attention whatsoever. Does the
phrase
"Told you so!" mean anything to you? The anti-war "Liberals" wanted to avoid
the negative outcome for America that was the inevitable outcome of Bush's
fiasco.
Yeah, but you have no solution now, all you and all Liberals do is complain
that we're there, yet when the suggestion is made that we might leave, you say
we can't.
Well, if you shoot yourself in the foot, what "solution" would you expect to
undo all the damage? Not gonna happen! If you've shot yourself in the foot,
you're gonna have to go through a lot of pain before things get fixed up, and
your foot is never, ever gonna look the same.
The "solution" would have not to have invaded in the first place, as everyone
kept telling Bush. Once the invasion took place, we have no choice but to
suffer through it.
Obviously you are all confused.
Not at all. We've seen this coming for over a year.
I suspect that you want us to stay in Iraq, but to just sit there like ducks
waiting to get shot, then you and your Liberal friends will be able to keep
complaining.
I think you can expect your good pals >Cheny and Rummy to make sure that's
what happens.
And you'll be happy, so what are you complaining about?
There is not good outcome to come of all this. No, I'm not happy about it, no
matter what comes, but I'll be a whole lot less happy if Bush screws up even
further, like it looks like he's doing.
Woods
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That country will go down the drain with terrorist attacks etc. once we
leave.
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches
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"Ronnie" <Ronnie@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<5L6qc.80904$sK3.48003@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>...
That country will go down the drain with terrorist attacks etc. once we leave.
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It appears to be doing that quite well enough because we are there.
Werewolfy
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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18 May 2004 10:15:29 AM |
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"Ronnie"
wrote:
That country will go down the drain with >terrorist attacks etc. once we
leave.
And that will make the Liberals very happy.
Tony
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| User: "dreamwalker" |
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17 May 2004 11:15:31 PM |
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I say mine the perimeter of the southern oil fields and turn on the spiggot. I got a thirsty new
Suburban than needs a drink of fresh petro.
"Ronnie" <Ronnie@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:5L6qc.80904$sK3.48003@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
That country will go down the drain with terrorist attacks etc. once we
leave.
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040517040847.09206.00001503@mb-m13.aol.com...
Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC, in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches
.
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| User: "ex" |
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17 May 2004 05:26:50 PM |
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If they're asked to leave, then ...
1-Instant exit strategy.
2-No responsibility.
"Ronnie" <Ronnie@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:5L6qc.80904$sK3.48003@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
That country will go down the drain with terrorist attacks etc. once we
leave.
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040517040847.09206.00001503@mb-m13.aol.com...
Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy
CATHERINE MacLEOD May 17 2004
2004 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more
troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political
and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job
done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of
authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC,
in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp
reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those
attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy
for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr
Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never
consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the
Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there
is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution
that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more
troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political
and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job
done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of
authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches of the British bank, HSBC,
in
Ankara and Istanbul.
The bombs caused minor damage and no casualties but were a sharp
reminder
of
four devastating blasts which targeted British and Jewish targets in
Istanbul
in November, including the main local offices of HSBC in the city. Sixty
one
people, including the British consul, Roger Short, died in those
attacks,
blamed on a Turkish Islamist group linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda
network.
Yesterday, Mr Cook demanded the government find a quick exit strategy
for
British troops once the elections are held next January since they were
now so
unpopular, but Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, gave his remarks short
shrift. Expressing disappointment in his former cabinet colleague, Mr
Hoon
said: "I worked with him when he was foreign secretary. He knows these
decisions have to be taken in light of events on the ground . . . events
for
the moment certainly require the presence of British troops on the
ground."
According to a report in a Sunday newspaper, allies of Gordon Brown
believe Mr
Cook would return to the cabinet if Mr Blair stood down to make way for
the
chancellor. But there are those who believe Mr Brown would never
consider
reinstating Mr Cook.
Whitehall sources suggested yesterday that the prime minister had taken
advantage of a nervous US administration to persuade them to embrace the
UN and
speed up the handover of political and military control in Iraq.
Downing Street disclosed the new plan was proceeding on a twin approach.
On the security side, the coalition was speeding up creation of the
Iraqi
army,
civil defence and intelligence services, and had focused on creating and
training Iraqi authorities. Major General David Petraeus has been put in
charge
of the speeded-up process and British sources said he is keen to learn
lessons
from the south of Iraq where the British troops were in charge of
security.
On the political side, the coalition has accepted there "must be a real,
visible difference when power is transferred on June 30 and that there
is
a
sovereign Iraqi government which is supported by a new UN resolution
that
will
set out arrangements for a multi-national force".
The net was closing yesterday around the soldiers behind the faked Daily
Mirror
Iraqi prisoner abuse photographs. Military investigators hope that the
newspaper will reveal their identities this week.
TONY Blair and George W Bush have speeded up their work on a new plan to
ensure
the new Iraqi administration to be set up on June 30 is a sovereign
government
supported by a new UN resolution, according to the prime minister's
spokesman
last night.
As Robin Cook, Mr Blair's former cabinet colleague, stepped up pressure
for a
change in strategy in Iraq and anti-war campaigners demanded that the
prime
minister seek a fresh political mandate if he decides to send more
troops
there, Downing Street admitted it had announced details of the new
strategy in
an attempt to convince the public that it had a grip of the political
and
military strategies.
The prime minister's spokesman, insisting that Mr Blair was not diverted
by
speculation over his future but was concentrating on getting the job
done,
denied the new strategy was a panic measure to silence the anti-war
critics on
both sides of the Atlantic.
He said: "They have been working on a joint strategy for the last few
weeks and
it has speeded up in the last few days. It is a recognition that people
need to
see we have a grip, that we are not there for ever amen, politically or
militarily.
"Neither is this a case of cutting and running, but showing we have a
strategy
of achieving what we said we wanted to achieve: the transfer of
authority
to an
Iraqi government and responsibility to an Iraqi security system."
Mr Blair is visiting Turkey today, when he is expected to explain the
strategy
in neighbouring Iraq. However, he would have been in little doubt about
the
feelings of some factions in the country when last night, on the eve of
his
visit, three bombs exploded outside branches
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