October 27, 2004, 8:16 a.m.
Iraq’s WMDs: Lost and Found
Saddam had ’em.
Wait a minute — so there were WMDs in Iraq? The Kerry campaign, the media,
assorted pundits, and others are making much of the disappearance of the 380
tons of explosives from the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad.
According to the IAEA, the U.N. watchdog agency now apparently in the service
of the Democratic National Committee, some of the explosives could be used to
detonate nuclear weapons. Wow — nuclear-weapon components were in Iraq?
Shouldn't the headline be, "Saddam Had 'Em?"
The opposition really needs to get its story straight. The president cannot be
taken to task for inventing the Iraqi WMD threat, and simultaneously disparaged
for not securing Saddam's dangerous WMD-related materials.
The cache at al Qaqaa was not the only WMD-related material in the news
recently. Another IAEA report came out two weeks ago that did not get as much
play. According to this account, dual-use equipment that could be used to make
nuclear weapons was taken from various locations inside Iraq. The Duelfer
Report speculated this equipment could have been taken during the chaos of the
invasion. The equipment was "professionally looted" by another account, and may
have gone to Iran or Syria. Isn't it significant that equipment that could be
used to make nuclear weapons was there in the first place? Don't these
constitute components of a WMD program?
As well, if CBS wants to recycle old news in an attempt to influence the
election, how about this story: 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and
other nuclear material at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center (Saddam's main
nuclear research and development center) was secured by the United States and
flown out of the country last July. According to the Energy Department this
material could have been used to make a radiological dispersion device (a.k.a.
a dirty bomb) or "diverted to support a nuclear weapons program." The only
thing we found in Iraq that was more hazardous than this haul was Saddam
Hussein. The United States was able successfully to deny this dangerous
material to terrorists, rogue states or anyone else. This good news story
dropped like a stone when it came out. And unlike most of the hype of the last
few days, this story has the benefit of being true.
The missing explosives from al Qaqaa also raise the possibility that other
WMD-related materials met the same fate. The IAEA had seen the al Qaqaa
material in January 2003, but by the time U.S. troops showed up on April 10,
they had disappeared. The dual-use technologies mentioned in the other IAEA
report also had been moved or looted. This suggests that still other WMDs and
related technologies might have been given or taken away in the days leading up
to the war, or shortly after the Coalition attacks began. It is widely
believed, though not conclusively proved, that much of this went to Syria. The
Iraq Survey Group interviewed Iraqi agents who claimed to have helped moved the
WMD materials. This charge was repeated by David Kay when he left the ISG
earlier this year. The Blix Report found 1,000 tons of chemical weapons missing
from Iraq, and last May this column discussed a planned al Qaeda attack in
Jordan involving 20 tons of chemicals. The attack was broken up, and the
subsequent investigation showed strong links to Syria. Connect your own dots.
So between the al Qaqaa explosives, the dual-use equipment, the Tuwaitha
nuclear material, the missing chemical weapons, and the Syrian connection, it
sounds like the WMD rationale is much stronger than most critics give it credit
for. One can only imagine what Saddam would have done given the chance to put
them all together. These are just a few reasons why Operation Iraqi Freedom was
the right war, in the right place, at the right time.
— James S. Robbins is an NRO contributor.
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| User: "tw" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found |
10 Jan 2005 03:51:23 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050108133004.08281.00003428@mb-m04.aol.com...
October 27, 2004, 8:16 a.m.
Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found
Saddam had 'em.
Wait a minute - so there were WMDs in Iraq? The Kerry campaign, the media,
assorted pundits, and others are making much of the disappearance of the
380
tons of explosives from the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad.
According to the IAEA, the U.N. watchdog agency now apparently in the
service
of the Democratic National Committee, some of the explosives could be used
to
detonate nuclear weapons.
...as can ANY explosives. What mental retard wrote this article?
Wow - nuclear-weapon components were in Iraq?
In the same way steel is a nuclear weapons component.
Shouldn't the headline be, "Saddam Had 'Em?"
The opposition really needs to get its story straight. The president
cannot be
taken to task for inventing the Iraqi WMD threat, and simultaneously
disparaged
for not securing Saddam's dangerous WMD-related materials.
The cache at al Qaqaa was not the only WMD-related material in the news
recently. Another IAEA report came out two weeks ago that did not get as
much
play. According to this account, dual-use equipment that could be used to
make
nuclear weapons was taken from various locations inside Iraq. The Duelfer
Report speculated this equipment could have been taken during the chaos of
the
invasion. The equipment was "professionally looted" by another account,
and may
have gone to Iran or Syria. Isn't it significant that equipment that could
be
used to make nuclear weapons was there in the first place? Don't these
constitute components of a WMD program?
As well, if CBS wants to recycle old news in an attempt to influence the
election, how about this story: 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium
and
other nuclear material at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center (Saddam's
main
nuclear research and development center) was secured by the United States
and
flown out of the country last July.
So? What would you expect to find at a nuclear research center? magic beans?
Note that "low enriched uraium" isn't someting yo ucan make a nuclear weapon
out of.
ccording to the Energy Department this
material could have been used to make a radiological dispersion device
(a.k.a.
a dirty bomb)
A dirty bomb is NOT a WMD. TRhe main effect a dirty bomb woudl have would be
to make people panic.. this is how it is being used by bush's government,
ironically enough.
or "diverted to support a nuclear weapons program." The only
thing we found in Iraq that was more hazardous than this haul was Saddam
Hussein.
LOL! Hardly...
<snip>
- James S. Robbins is an NRO contributor.
...and a fucking ignorant fool.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found |
11 Jan 2005 08:26:42 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:23 +0100, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
TW, you may recall that the media and the Kerry campaign were the ones
making a big deal about saying that WMD components were lost --
raising the point the author was making, namely, if there were no WMDs
to begin with, how could they have been lost? It was more a critique
of the line the Kerry team had taken in response to this pathetic
attempt at an October surprise. I think you have to stop being so
ingenuous.
BOB
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050108133004.08281.00003428@mb-m04.aol.com...
October 27, 2004, 8:16 a.m.
Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found
Saddam had 'em.
Wait a minute - so there were WMDs in Iraq? The Kerry campaign, the media,
assorted pundits, and others are making much of the disappearance of the
380
tons of explosives from the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad.
According to the IAEA, the U.N. watchdog agency now apparently in the
service
of the Democratic National Committee, some of the explosives could be used
to
detonate nuclear weapons.
..as can ANY explosives. What mental retard wrote this article?
Wow - nuclear-weapon components were in Iraq?
In the same way steel is a nuclear weapons component.
Shouldn't the headline be, "Saddam Had 'Em?"
The opposition really needs to get its story straight. The president
cannot be
taken to task for inventing the Iraqi WMD threat, and simultaneously
disparaged
for not securing Saddam's dangerous WMD-related materials.
The cache at al Qaqaa was not the only WMD-related material in the news
recently. Another IAEA report came out two weeks ago that did not get as
much
play. According to this account, dual-use equipment that could be used to
make
nuclear weapons was taken from various locations inside Iraq. The Duelfer
Report speculated this equipment could have been taken during the chaos of
the
invasion. The equipment was "professionally looted" by another account,
and may
have gone to Iran or Syria. Isn't it significant that equipment that could
be
used to make nuclear weapons was there in the first place? Don't these
constitute components of a WMD program?
As well, if CBS wants to recycle old news in an attempt to influence the
election, how about this story: 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium
and
other nuclear material at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center (Saddam's
main
nuclear research and development center) was secured by the United States
and
flown out of the country last July.
So? What would you expect to find at a nuclear research center? magic beans?
Note that "low enriched uraium" isn't someting yo ucan make a nuclear weapon
out of.
ccording to the Energy Department this
material could have been used to make a radiological dispersion device
(a.k.a.
a dirty bomb)
A dirty bomb is NOT a WMD. TRhe main effect a dirty bomb woudl have would be
to make people panic.. this is how it is being used by bush's government,
ironically enough.
or "diverted to support a nuclear weapons program." The only
thing we found in Iraq that was more hazardous than this haul was Saddam
Hussein.
LOL! Hardly...
<snip>
- James S. Robbins is an NRO contributor.
..and a fucking ignorant fool.
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found |
11 Jan 2005 08:38:24 PM |
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In article <fh29u09t9rjbvscbje14j12cd6e33rvjo1@4ax.com>, Bob wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:51:23 +0100, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
TW, you may recall that the media and the Kerry campaign were the ones
making a big deal about saying that WMD components were lost --
raising the point the author was making, namely, if there were no WMDs
to begin with, how could they have been lost? It was more a critique
of the line the Kerry team had taken in response to this pathetic
attempt at an October surprise. I think you have to stop being so
ingenuous.
They were sealed up by UN inspectors, and therefore out of the picture as far as
the WMDs that Bush was saying were unaccounted for or at-the-ready to destroy
the planet. We went in, the seals were still intact upon our arrival (filme
by embedded journalists). We failed to secure the known facilities storing these
types of weapon components, and now they *are* unaccounted for and likely in the
hands of terrorists. IE - these were NOT what Bush was referring to with the
WMDs, he was referring to other things that the UN supposedly hadn't accounted
for.
Woods
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found |
11 Jan 2005 08:47:25 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:38:24 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
They were sealed up by UN inspectors, and therefore out of the picture as far as
the WMDs that Bush was saying were unaccounted for or at-the-ready to destroy
the planet. We went in, the seals were still intact upon our arrival (filme
by embedded journalists). We failed to secure the known facilities storing these
types of weapon components, and now they *are* unaccounted for and likely in the
hands of terrorists. IE - these were NOT what Bush was referring to with the
WMDs, he was referring to other things that the UN supposedly hadn't accounted
for.
Woods
Right, so why did the Kerry campaign go talking about missing WMD
components as if it was a big deal?
I think that was the point of the piece. The hypocrisy of the left.
BOB
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found |
11 Jan 2005 09:00:28 PM |
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In article <vn39u09i5npolsg2mlij7j4qt6i9qimf1f@4ax.com>, Bob wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:38:24 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
They were sealed up by UN inspectors, and therefore out of the picture as far
as
the WMDs that Bush was saying were unaccounted for or at-the-ready to destroy
the planet. We went in, the seals were still intact upon our arrival (filme
by embedded journalists). We failed to secure the known facilities storing
these
types of weapon components, and now they *are* unaccounted for and likely in
the
hands of terrorists. IE - these were NOT what Bush was referring to with the
WMDs, he was referring to other things that the UN supposedly hadn't accounted
for.
Woods
Right, so why did the Kerry campaign go talking about missing WMD
components as if it was a big deal?
Maybe because they wouldn't have gone missing, and would not have become a
threat, if Bush hadn't (1)lied about missing WMDs and (2)invaded in such a
poorly planned manner. Just a thought ....
I think that was the point of the piece. The hypocrisy of the left.
What I'm seeing is someone's reading comprehension problem.
Woods
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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08 Jan 2005 03:20:01 PM |
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(TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
October 27, 2004, 8:16 a.m.
Iraq’s WMDs: Lost and Found
Saddam had ’em.
Wait a minute — so there were WMDs in Iraq? The Kerry campaign, the
media, assorted pundits, and others are making much of the disappearance
of the 380 tons of explosives from the Al Qaqaa storage facility south
of Baghdad.
Those explosives didn't disappear. They're being used on our
troops and on Iraqi civilians on a daily basis.
According to the IAEA, the U.N. watchdog agency now
apparently in the service of the Democratic National Committee, some of
the explosives could be used to detonate nuclear weapons. Wow —
nuclear-weapon components were in Iraq? Shouldn't the headline be,
"Saddam Had 'Em?"
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| User: "WH" |
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08 Jan 2005 01:34:37 PM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
October 27, 2004, 8:16 a.m.
Iraq's WMDs: Lost and Found
Saddam had 'em.
Wait a minute - so there were WMDs in Iraq? The Kerry campaign, the
media,
assorted pundits, and others are making much of the disappearance of
the 380
tons of explosives from the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of
Baghdad.
According to the IAEA, the U.N. watchdog agency now apparently in the
service
of the Democratic National Committee, some of the explosives could be
used to
detonate nuclear weapons.
Wow - nuclear-weapon components were in Iraq? Shouldn't the headline
be, "Saddam >Had 'Em?"
Fuckin' hell. Only a total ***** could come to that conclusion.
Outdoin' yourself today pantyboy. The "articles" you copied and pasted
today seem to have come from people who are thicker than your normal
lot! Where'dya find todays samples?
WH
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