V=2E14
Saturne & Mars en leo Espaigne captifve,
Par chef lybique au conflict attrap=E9:
Proche de Malthe, Heredde prinse vive,
Et Romain sceptre sera par coq frapp=E9.
Line 3 - "Marthe [Santa Marta]; [Pedro de] Heredia"
Line 4 - "France"
Verse translation
Saturn and Mars in Leo, held in Spain,
Caught by an Afric leader in a fight,
Near Marta shall Heredia live be ta'en
When ***** shall strike the Roman ruler's might.
The temporary imprisonment in Spain in 1535 of Don Pedro de Heredia,
Governor of Santa Marta in Colombia, for alleged embezzlement of Indian
property. Both Saturn and Mars were in Leo from early November until
mid-December. After the French took nearby Cartagena by surprise in
1543, he was again deposed and sent to Spain in a fleet which was lost
at sea in 1555 off the African coast - though until this was
established (the verse itself was written between 1555 and 1557) it may
well have been assumed that he had been captured by North African
pirates.
Merlin the Magician
"As it once was so shall it be again, world without end"
[TEOTW: 27, Shelter from the Storm, 346]
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| User: "" |
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05 Apr 2006 04:53:23 PM |
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Well always one to provide an alternative, but again assumes the
Astrlogical is literal rather than metaphoric :
C5Q14. Saturn and Mars in Leo Spain captive, By the African chief
trapped in the conflict, Near Malta, Herodde 5 taken alive, And the
Roman sceptre will be struck down by the *****.
5 Herodde = Enigmatic name. Herod? The daughter of Herod? Rhodes?
CVQ 14. This is a rather dazzling prophecy with its sweeping statements
of events on a grand scale. When the configuration in line I takes
place (unfortunately not covered by Wollner), Spain will be conquered
by whom? Apparently, by one of the successors of Barbarossa, the Bey of
Algiers. In the 1550's it was Dragut who was clearly the "African
chief." Perhaps it is not the conquest of all Spain that is intended
(quite a large order when Spanish power was at its peak), but merely of
the rest of the Spanish forts in North Africa. Most of these by 1556
had been lost by the Habsburgs. With reference to line 2, Dragut
himself was perhaps trapped in the conflict, when be perished in the
Siege of Malta (1565). Line 3 is completely obscure. What place is
"near Malta"? The only answer would seem a ship at sea. What is the
derivation of Herodde? The primary poetic meaning of Herod would be
"enemy of Christ," in which case it might be used loosely for any
Moslem leader. But the feminine ending complicates the matter further.
just to show what one can do with the word, the League in the 1580's
made the anagram vilain Herodes out of "Henri de Valois" (Henry III).
Line 1 would seem to predict that the French would inflict a shattering
defeat upon either the Emperor (Roman Emperor) or the Pope (ruler of
Rome)
Neither was to be fulfilled properly till the time of Napoleon.
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| Title: Re: V.14 - The down to earth version |
05 Apr 2006 06:24:45 PM |
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Do you idiots ever SHUT UP......
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: V.14 - The down to earth version |
06 Apr 2006 03:43:46 PM |
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What is the matter DM, out of your depth?
LB
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