Ali's story:
Ali Albaway was tortured in 1993, in Baghdad, because of his opposition
to Saddam's regime. He fled to Sweden with his family afterwards. He,
along with his family, (wife and two young daughters), returned to
Iraq, after it was "liberated" by the yanks, in 2004 to start a new
life in his own country but got stuck in a traffic jam in Baghdad, they
were in a taxi on their way to the bus station where they were to take
a bus to Basra in southern Iraq to reunite with family and friends.
The two young girls started to sing "Pippi L=E5ngstrump", (The theme
song to Pippi Longstocking), so Ali took out the video camera to film
them as fathers tend to do. He would never have dared to even travel to
Iraq if Saddam was still the boss let alone take out a video camera,
but it was OK now. Iraq was free...the yanks had "freed" everyone from
that repressive regime. Suddenly, he got a tap on the shoulder through
the open taxi window, it was 45 degrees that day, and that was the
start of a 23 day hell for him and his family.
To make a very long and very disturbing story short, Ali was taken to
the police headquarters in Baghdad and put in a cell of approx. 24
square metres which he shared with about 54 other prisoners. Some of
them were as young as 12. Actually, he said that one of the young boys,
a twelve year old, was taken out every night by the guards for a few
hours and always came back looking shaken and extremely disturbed.
They, the guards, were sexually abusing the poor little guy! Ali was
taken out and interrogated, always blindfolded, on many occasions
during his 23 days of hell. They tortured him. He described how he
heard, during his torture in 1993, other prisoners screaming in the
interrogation part of the building, (the cellar), and how this time in
the "free" Iraq nothing had changed. The screams could still be heard.
Even in 2004 despite the fact that the yanks had "freed" Iraqi's from
the murderous dictator and his henchmen. The torture was still going
on.
On one occasion, when he was in a cell being 'interrogated' and he was
thrown head first against a wall, his blindfold fell down and he saw
the people who were torturing him. They were the same people who had
done it before Saddam was toppled...but this time there was an 'extra'
person. Ali couldn't believe his eyes. The 'extra' person was an
American officer...those who had 'freed' Iraqi's from the murderous
Saddam. Ali had decided to admit to whatever they wanted because he
couldn't take any more of the torture, even though he had spent the
previous eleven years living in Vallentuna, a suburb of Stockholm...he
just couldn't handle any more. Unknown to him his wife had taken the
quickest plane she could back to Stockholm with the two little girls
after he was arrested. When he saw the Yankie officer he claimed
Swedish citizenship hoping that at least the yank would think again
before continuing with the torture. He asked that they get in touch
with the Swedish foreign affairs dept. Two days later he was released
and is now in therapy in Stockholm for not only the torture he
experienced during the Saddam regime, but the torture he experienced
during the yankie regime too.
This I watched in a documentary on the telly last night. Afterwards
there was a discussion and a representative from Amnesty International
was part of the panel. She told of how the yanks have gotten rid of
Saddam and some of his henchmen, but they re-employed Saddam's torture
teams.
Saddam's torture people are now working for the yanks!
According to Amnesty, this is not an isolated case. It's systematic.
Although it's the only case recorded by Sweden, there are hundreds of
others who have returned to the now "liberated" Iraq, "liberated" by
those lovers of human rights the yanks, only to find themselves in the
hands of the torturers who are in the command, (and on the payroll), of
the "liberators".
Torture under Saddam was a crime against humanity...under the yanks
it's fine!
WH
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Very disturbing |
21 Apr 2005 07:29:22 AM |
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Hey Chris,
How long did it take you to make up that story??
Tony
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| User: "WH" |
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21 Apr 2005 10:40:25 AM |
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wrote:
Hey Chris,
How long did it take you to make up that story??
Tony
This is the "democracy" that you claim the vermin who invaded Iraq took
with them pantyboy!
WH
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| User: "jose j bronze" |
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| Title: Re: Very disturbing |
19 Apr 2005 08:13:01 PM |
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On 19-04-2005 12:36, in article
1113907015.009753.175480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "WH"
<bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ali's story:
Ali Albaway was tortured in 1993, in Baghdad, because of his opposition
to Saddam's regime. He fled to Sweden with his family afterwards. He,
along with his family, (wife and two young daughters), returned to
Iraq, after it was "liberated" by the yanks, in 2004 to start a new
life in his own country but got stuck in a traffic jam in Baghdad, they
were in a taxi on their way to the bus station where they were to take
a bus to Basra in southern Iraq to reunite with family and friends.
The two young girls started to sing "Pippi Långstrump", (The theme
song to Pippi Longstocking), so Ali took out the video camera to film
them as fathers tend to do. He would never have dared to even travel to
Iraq if Saddam was still the boss let alone take out a video camera,
but it was OK now. Iraq was free...the yanks had "freed" everyone from
that repressive regime. Suddenly, he got a tap on the shoulder through
the open taxi window, it was 45 degrees that day, and that was the
start of a 23 day hell for him and his family.
To make a very long and very disturbing story short, Ali was taken to
the police headquarters in Baghdad and put in a cell of approx. 24
square metres which he shared with about 54 other prisoners. Some of
them were as young as 12. Actually, he said that one of the young boys,
a twelve year old, was taken out every night by the guards for a few
hours and always came back looking shaken and extremely disturbed.
They, the guards, were sexually abusing the poor little guy! Ali was
taken out and interrogated, always blindfolded, on many occasions
during his 23 days of hell. They tortured him. He described how he
heard, during his torture in 1993, other prisoners screaming in the
interrogation part of the building, (the cellar), and how this time in
the "free" Iraq nothing had changed. The screams could still be heard.
Even in 2004 despite the fact that the yanks had "freed" Iraqi's from
the murderous dictator and his henchmen. The torture was still going
on.
On one occasion, when he was in a cell being 'interrogated' and he was
thrown head first against a wall, his blindfold fell down and he saw
the people who were torturing him. They were the same people who had
done it before Saddam was toppled...but this time there was an 'extra'
person. Ali couldn't believe his eyes. The 'extra' person was an
American officer...those who had 'freed' Iraqi's from the murderous
Saddam. Ali had decided to admit to whatever they wanted because he
couldn't take any more of the torture, even though he had spent the
previous eleven years living in Vallentuna, a suburb of Stockholm...he
just couldn't handle any more. Unknown to him his wife had taken the
quickest plane she could back to Stockholm with the two little girls
after he was arrested. When he saw the Yankie officer he claimed
Swedish citizenship hoping that at least the yank would think again
before continuing with the torture. He asked that they get in touch
with the Swedish foreign affairs dept. Two days later he was released
and is now in therapy in Stockholm for not only the torture he
experienced during the Saddam regime, but the torture he experienced
during the yankie regime too.
This I watched in a documentary on the telly last night. Afterwards
there was a discussion and a representative from Amnesty International
was part of the panel. She told of how the yanks have gotten rid of
Saddam and some of his henchmen, but they re-employed Saddam's torture
teams.
Saddam's torture people are now working for the yanks!
Saddam ONLY became the bad guy AFTER he stopped WORKING FOR "the yanks" in
the first place.
According to Amnesty, this is not an isolated case. It's systematic.
Although it's the only case recorded by Sweden, there are hundreds of
others who have returned to the now "liberated" Iraq, "liberated" by
those lovers of human rights the yanks, only to find themselves in the
hands of the torturers who are in the command, (and on the payroll), of
the "liberators".
Torture under Saddam was a crime against humanity...under the yanks
it's fine!
WH
Jay J Bee
"Repetition is the power of commerce
Retrospection is its weakness"
Explanations for the tony's amongst us:
Same counts for propaganda, boy.
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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| Title: Re: Very disturbing |
19 Apr 2005 09:43:50 PM |
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The practice of using torturers from previous regimes is indeed very common.
When the Mullahs took over in Iran, they hired back most of the torture
squad from Savak (Shah's secret police). The fact of the matter is that it
is not all that easy to find people who are willing to torture others. And
even when they are found, they need to be reliable, and they need to be
trained (in case of Savak most of training was provided by the CIA). So most
of these regimes who rely on terror, usually have to resort back to previous
pools of torturers. It is now no secret that a part of the American strategy
to tame Iraqis is the exercise of torture. Although the more publicized
cases involve American soldiers, the vast majority of the torturers are from
the previous regime who are much more experienced and reliable. This has
greatly reduced the leaks similar to those in Abu Gharib prison.
Unfortunately the terror effect that torture creates in general population
is so strong that even the Americans could not resist it. Torture is
extremely widespread in Iraq and Afghanistan now. Much more so than before
the invasions.
Stat.
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| User: "Hans D. Magnusson" |
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| Title: Another disturbing thing. |
19 Apr 2005 08:30:57 AM |
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Yesterday a school class was attacked by 30-40 other youngsters in
Husby, Stockholm, without any reason. The attackers were...?
1. Swedes
X. From Mars
2. Immigrants
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| User: "WH" |
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19 Apr 2005 08:42:09 AM |
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Hans D. Magnusson wrote:
Yesterday a school class was attacked by 30-40 other youngsters in
Husby, Stockholm, without any reason. The attackers were...?
1. Swedes
X. From Mars
2. Immigrants
3. Youngsters?
WH
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| User: "Hans D. Magnusson" |
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20 Apr 2005 04:33:43 PM |
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WH wrote / skrev:
Hans D. Magnusson wrote:
Yesterday a school class was attacked by 30-40 other youngsters in
Husby, Stockholm, without any reason. The attackers were...?
1. Swedes
X. From Mars
2. Immigrants
3. Youngsters?
WH
You know their kind. You also know that what they did is a hatecrime.
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| User: "" |
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21 Apr 2005 09:19:11 AM |
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Hans wrote:
WH wrote / skrev:
Hans D. Magnusson wrote:
Yesterday a school class was attacked by 30-40 other youngsters in
Husby, Stockholm, without any reason. The attackers were...?
1. Swedes
X. From Mars
2. Immigrants
3. Youngsters?
WH
You know their kind. You also know that what they did is a hatecrime.
Of course it is, and if European kids were to do this in Africa or
Asia Crhris and his ilk would be crying, but since it is against white
Eruopeans, Chris and his ilk think it is a joke.
Tony
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