I never had time to answer you a quatrain is a whole, one must check
toutles
parameters, (meme the rhymes and to find a history logical) it is not a
chance, this quatrain was so disconcerting that I knew that an error could
be only far from possible! Nostradamus uses, Ogmium, Ogmius, Logmion,
Logmyon Dogmion, they are not errors!

Ogmion cannot be in Logmion, Logmyon dogmion! it sagit of subtleties
employed by Nostradamus to mislead; how Itales! But I will leave time to
time to make his work, and it will be seen that this solution is only!



"Prince Lightwing" <lightwing07@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
aa5ff139.0411042257.448da73b@posting.google.com...

"Thierry Vigneron" <nostre3@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message

news:<418a45da$0$15720$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr>...

Thank you


"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> a écrit dans le message de

news:

Ku9id.2323466$yk.376441@news.easynews.com...

Thierry Vigneron a écrit:

That you accept it where not, the Vi-42 quatrain, predicted that

well!

Well, not really, but for some inexplicable reason, YOU felt it did.

And your premonition was right. Which is not very usual. Nostradabob

(or

whatever his nick is), was misusing some quatrain as well and got it
wrong. There are only two possibilities... Well, glad to see many
astrologers, and other pseudo-experts (who tried to influence the
vote
by predicting Kerry) be debunked in the process.

Now
we know, which it means and we can predict in advance what can

occur! I

had

said it to you!

Shows that one never knows exactly in advance... although I am sure

you

honestly disagree with that. And I am sure you are sincere. Which is

why

you may have that kind of luck. And I certainly won't complain about

it

in this case. ;-)

I will challenge you again of course, because I have my convictions
about the Seer that clash with yours. But follow YOUR convictions
nonetheless, I say!

Bravo.

J.

The Elect Wrote:

Kudos To Both Thierry Vigneron and Jean Guernon! *YOU* Have
"Demonstrated" What "Communicating With *YOUR* Neighbor Is About".
"Accepting Responsibility, Making It Known That *YOU* Made An *Honest*
Mistake, and For Respecting That Right Of Making A Mistake In A Manner
That Doesn't "Burn Bridges" and "Encourages Cooperation".

I "Thank You" For "Leading By Example For Others", It *SHOWS* "The
Proper Conduct Of Character" *Required* If *WE* Are Going To "Live In
Peace". I Understand how ones "Convictions" can be to their
'Detriment' and "Builds *WALLS* Around Each Other". If *WE* Can
*STOP* Being So "Over Zealous" With "Our Understandings" We Can "Build
Bridges" and *Restore* The *Peace* Back To It's Rightful Place, "In
*OUR* Lives".

The *TRUTH* Is *People* Have To "Take Back" Their *RIGHT* To Be At
Peace With Each Other and *NOT* Trying To Always "DOMINATE" by "Force
Of Arms" Or "Words Of Wickedness". It is "Imperative" For *ALL* To
"Recognize" What Is "Seperating Each Other" From Their
*Responsibility* To Their "Neighbor". When *WE* Take A "Polarizing
Position" We "LIMIT" Ourselves To "Objective Views Based On
Conjecture" Rather Than *FACTS* Based On *TRUTH*.

Main Entry: [1]ob·jec·tive
Pronunciation: &b-'jek-tiv, äb-
Function: adjective
Date: 1620
1 a : relating to or existing as an object of thought without
consideration of independent existence - used chiefly in medieval
philosophy b : of, relating to, or being an object, phenomenon, or
condition in the realm of sensible experience independent of
individual thought and perceptible by all observers : having reality
independent of the mind <objective reality> <our reveries. are
significantly and repeatedly shaped by our transactions with the
objective world -Marvin Reznikoff>; compare SUBJECTIVE 3a c : of a
symptom of disease : perceptible to persons other than the affected
individual - compare SUBJECTIVE 4c d : involving or deriving from
sense perception or experience with actual objects, conditions, or
phenomena <objective awareness> <objective data>
2 : relating to, characteristic of, or constituting the case of words
that follow prepositions or transitive verbs
3 a : expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived
without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or
interpretations <objective art> <an objective history of the war> <an
objective judgment> b : of a test : limited to choices of fixed
alternatives and reducing subjective factors to a minimum
synonym see MATERIAL, FAIR
- ob·jec·tive·ly adverb
- ob·jec·tive·ness noun
- ob·jec·tiv·i·ty /"äb-"jek-'ti-v&-tE, &b-/ noun

Main Entry: [1]con·jec·ture
Pronunciation: k&n-'jek-ch&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French,
from Latin conjectura, from conjectus, past participle of conicere,
literally, to throw together, from com- + jacere to throw -more at JET
Date: 14th century
1 : obsolete : a : interpretation of omens b : SUPPOSITION
2 a : inference from defective or presumptive evidence b : a
conclusion deduced by surmise or guesswork c : a proposition (as in
mathematics) before it has been proved or disproved



I know that *Many* Beleive That They Are "Entitled" To Their
"Understandings" and that is *TRUE* to a "Degree". However, There
*ARE* "Boundaries" In This *LIFE* and that is why *WE* all should Give
More Consideration To The Established *RIGHTS* Of Our "Neighbors" and
it will surely "Open The Door For Dialogue". "Right Now", *WE* "NEED"
*DIALOGUE*!

Main Entry: [1]di·a·logue
Variant(s): also di.a.log /'dI-&-"log, -"läg/
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English dialoge, from Old French dialogue, from
Latin dialogus, from Greek dialogos, from dialegesthai to converse,
from dia- + legein to speak -more at LEGEND
Date: 13th century
1 : a written composition in which two or more characters are
represented as conversing
2 a : a conversation between two or more persons; also : a similar
exchange between a person and something else (as a computer) b : an
exchange of ideas and opinions c : a discussion between
representatives of parties to a conflict that is aimed at resolution
3 : the conversational element of literary or dramatic composition
4 : a musical composition for two or more parts suggestive of a
conversation


When *WE* "Respect and Communicate From A Position Of *Neutrality* We
Find That We are "Open Minded and Able To Accept *NEW* Revelations".
So If We "Turn To What Works" We Can *FIX* What Doesn't Work! It is
in *ALL* Of Our "Best Interests" To *LIVE* In Peaceful and Cooperative
Conduct Of Character With Each Other. The *Greatest* "Attributes" in
*LIFE* Have Always Been *SHARED* and *NOT* Taken For Granted.

Main Entry: [2]at·trib·ute
Pronunciation: &-'tri-"byüt, -by&t
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -ut·ed; -ut·ing
Date: 1530
1 : to explain by indicating a cause <attributed his success to his
coach>
2 a : to regard as a characteristic of a person or thing b : to reckon
as made or originated in an indicated fashion <attributed the
invention to a Russian> c : CLASSIFY, DESIGNATE
synonym see ASCRIBE
- at·trib·ut·able /-byü-t&-b&l, -by&-/ adjective

When *PEOPLE* Build *WALLS* that "Keeps Others Out" It Alienates and
Seperates *US* From Being Able To *LIVE* a "Worthwhile and Fulfilling
Life". I Assure *ALL* Almighty *GOD* "Created *US* To Be "Free" Of
Oppression and Affliction but, *WE* Keep Placing Limits On Ourselves
With *OUR* Ways Of Seeing, Acting, and Doing Things.

The One Absolute That *WE* Can *ALL* Agree With At This Moment is "WE
ARE *ALL* PROGRAMMED BY KNOWLEDGE" Or As I Prefer To State "We Are A
Direct Reflection Of *OUR* Environment and *ALL* It Encompasses". For
Example, If I watch a "Cartoon" that "Demonstrates *ACTS* Of Violence"
I Have *LEARNED* How To "ACT WITH VIOLENCE" and If A *YOUNG* Child
That Has *NOT* Learned How To Handle Their "Conduct Of Character" to
the *Mature* level that *WE* want them to, *WE* get "Violent" With
Them If They Do It!!!

This *Culture* Has Become A Direct Reflection Of The *ADULTS* On The
*CHILDREN* and "It Is *HARMFUL* Because "Children" *DO* "Grow Up" to
Be *ADULTS* and Will "Pass Those Same *SHARED* Values On To *THEIR*
Children and Environment" and *NOW* "ALL" Can *SEE* "WHY?" Their Is So
Much *HARM* Being Spread Throughout *THIS* Garden.

I *HOPE* That *ALL* Will "Stop" and Think About *THEIR* Responsibility
To Each Other and *MAYBE* We Can Get This World To "Turn Away" From
"Certain Destruction" Because "I *KNOW* The *TRUTH* That Will *HELP*
Get *PEOPLE* To Live amongst themselves in Friendship, Trust, Respect,
and Decency and The Only Thing That is *Required* is a "Willingness"
To *COOPERATE*.

Again "Thank You Both", Thierry and Jean For Taking The *Responsible*
Approach To "Interacting With *YOUR* Neighbor". I *Value*
"Cooperative Attitudes" that "Promote Kindness, Respect, Friendship,
and Trust".


I Bid *ALL* Peace...

The Elect, (Asks *ALL* To "COOPERATE" thru "MUTUAL RESPECT")

Main Entry: co·op·er·ate
Pronunciation: kO-'ä-p&-"rAt
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Late Latin cooperatus, past participle of cooperari, from
Latin co- + operari to work -more at OPERATE
Date: 1582
1 : to act or work with another or others : act together
2 : to associate with another or others for mutual benefit
- co·op·er·a·tor /-"rA-t&r/ noun