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Date: 19 Oct 2004 07:53:54 PM
Object: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation

Already there is talk of voting machines not having a paper back up
except in Nevada~ but there are hundreds of $billions for elections
elsewhere in other countries~
~
also cheating is cheating...he got out of Viet Nam and so he wouldn't go
to Iraq...this is just Television to the Country Club
Administration~Manipulation of an election by anyone~ Judges, an
Administration~ is of course, Unconstitutional , Obstruction of Justice,
Fraud Upon the Public and such...
~
jn
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User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached for manipulation 19 Oct 2004 09:37:06 PM
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:53:54 -0400,
wrote or quoted :

Already there is talk of voting machines not having a paper back up
except in Nevada~ but there are hundreds of $billions for elections
elsewhere in other countries~

"It's not the voting that's democracy; it's the counting."
~ Tom Stoppard, playwright
Cheney masterminded 9/11.
~ Stanley Hilton lead attorney for the 9/11 victims, Bob Dole's advisor.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/bush911.html for details on Cheney's crime of the century.
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User: "Never anonymous Bud"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 22 Oct 2004 05:28:20 PM
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "Johnny Bravo" <tullum@cfl.rr.com> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:59:50 GMT spoke:

Bush is surging in ALL of the polls---Zogby, Gallup, ABC --- All of them!!!!

*****.
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User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 22 Oct 2004 06:32:31 PM
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "Johnny Bravo"

<tullum@cfl.rr.com> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:59:50 GMT spoke:


Bush is surging in ALL of the polls---Zogby, Gallup, ABC --- All of

them!!!!


*****.

Well, apparently he needs to do some surging. The New York Times has
compiled a map that shows the blue and red states. This according to the
latest polls. Currently Kerry is ahead 225 electoral votes to 213 with 9
states and100 electoral votes too close to call.
You'll need to be subscribed to see the article.
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/politics/2004_ELECTIONGUIDE_GRAPHIC/index_CALCULATOR.html
And so much can happen in 10 days....................
I just finished watching Fahrenheit 911 for the first time. "Fool me once,
shame on you................... We can't afford to be fooled again."
Indeed.
.
User: "Never anonymous Bud"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 22 Oct 2004 09:43:36 PM
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:32:31 -0400
spoke:

I just finished watching Fahrenheit 911 for the first time. "Fool me once,
shame on you................... We can't afford to be fooled again."
Indeed.

?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??
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User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 22 Oct 2004 10:41:16 PM
"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"

<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:32:31 -0400

spoke:

I just finished watching Fahrenheit 911 for the first time. "Fool me

once,

shame on you................... We can't afford to be fooled again."
Indeed.


?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??

You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore offered
and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.
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User: "Never anonymous Bud"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 01:33:58 AM
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400
spoke:

?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore offered
and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.

So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(
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User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 08:59:13 AM
"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"

<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400

spoke:

?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore offered
and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.


So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(

How do you, personally, disagree with the film, Bud?
.
User: "Never anonymous Bud"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 11:00:52 AM
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:59:13 -0400
spoke:

How do you, personally, disagree with the film, Bud?

Easily. Moore took LOTS of it out-of-context,
flat out LIED in some places, and 'selectively
edited' much more.
The facts are out there for you if you search,
or I can email a document that shows the errors.
I don't like Bush, and was one of the FEW
to speak out against the war even before it started,
but I believe there is plenty to hang Bush on
withOUT making stuff up.
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User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 11:41:03 AM
"Never anonymous Bud" <newskat@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"

<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Sat, 23 Oct 2004 09:59:13 -0400

spoke:

How do you, personally, disagree with the film, Bud?


Easily. Moore took LOTS of it out-of-context,
flat out LIED in some places, and 'selectively
edited' much more.

The facts are out there for you if you search,
or I can email a document that shows the errors.

I'd appreciate that. Should be easy, I'm not anonymous either. :-)



I don't like Bush, and was one of the FEW
to speak out against the war even before it started,

You were ahead of me on that.

but I believe there is plenty to hang Bush on
withOUT making stuff up.

Agreed. There's also plenty to hang prior administrations on, some of whom
happen to be lead by democrats.
Even tho misleading and emotional in many places the documentary talks about
things that are rarely discussed in mainstream media. The power structure
in America, government officials, past and present, who have deep financial
ties to the defense establishment, etc. I didn't know prior to watching the
film that the congressional black caucus tried to contest the certification
of the 2000 election in congress. I also liked the way Moore quotes Orwell
at the end of the movie.
The mainstream media failed in it's job during the run up to the invasion.
Even tho flawed Fahrenheit 911 serves an important function. It did inform
and should at least inspire people to question their world and dig deeper.
The film is not perfect but serves an important function in this democracy.
The communists used to be fond of saying that freedom of the press is only
for those that own the press. Given the poor performance of the "owned"
press over the last 4 years Fahrenheit 911 should be highly valued and
highly scrutinized.
.



User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 08:41:56 AM
Never anonymous Bud a écrit:

Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400
spoke:


?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore offered
and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.



So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(

Well, not really since, if he sets aside the "spurious" evidence, there
is nothing left. ;-)
J.
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 09:34:47 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Never anonymous Bud a écrit:

Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"

<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400

spoke:


?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore

offered

and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.



So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(


Well, not really since, if he sets aside the "spurious" evidence, there
is nothing left. ;-)

J.

You've seen the film yourself then?
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 10:37:28 AM
John F Lemke a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Never anonymous Bud a écrit:


Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"


<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400

spoke:



?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore


offered

and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.



So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(


Well, not really since, if he sets aside the "spurious" evidence, there
is nothing left. ;-)

J.



You've seen the film yourself then?


Yes.
J.
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 11:23:40 AM
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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John F Lemke a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Never anonymous Bud a écrit:


Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"


<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400

spoke:



?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore


offered

and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.



So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(


Well, not really since, if he sets aside the "spurious" evidence, there
is nothing left. ;-)

J.



You've seen the film yourself then?



Yes.

J.

Then I should assume there's something spurious about George Bush sitting in
that classroom for seven minutes after he was told of the jet striking the
second tower. Something spurious about Colin Powell saying in Feb. 2001
that Saddam was no threat. Something spurious about what Richard Clarke was
saying in the film? Something spurious about what the retired FBI agent was
saying about the need to question the Bin Laden family rather than let them
leave the country?
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Voting Machines In Question~ anyone should be impeached formanipulation 23 Oct 2004 03:17:30 PM
John F Lemke a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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John F Lemke a écrit:

"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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Never anonymous Bud a écrit:



Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, " John F Lemke"


<jflemke@LocalLink.net> on Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:41:16 -0400


spoke:




?? Are you saying you WERE fooled by Moore, or you weren't??



You can set aside any "spurious" evidence or any conclusion Moore


offered


and be deeply impressed by the raw footage and the clear words of the
principals.



So you WERE fooled by Moore. :(


Well, not really since, if he sets aside the "spurious" evidence, there
is nothing left. ;-)

J.



You've seen the film yourself then?



Yes.

J.



Then I should assume there's something spurious about George Bush sitting in
that classroom for seven minutes after he was told of the jet striking the
second tower.

Of course there is. The dignity was required in that moment for 5-7
minutes, duh!
It is not like he was in Vietnam and there was some soldiers at the
door, or anything that would warrant panicking. Only a brain dead loser
like Moore (and weasels who follow his disgusting clue) would make
anything of that. S-P-U-R-I-O-U-S!

Something spurious about Colin Powell saying in Feb. 2001
that Saddam was no threat.

Of course there is. What Colin conveyed was that Saddam could be
addressed. Not that he wasn't a dangerous guy. To take one sentence out
of context contradicted every thing else he ever said is TRULY
S-P-U-R-I-O-U-S!

Something spurious about what Richard Clarke was
saying in the film?

Of course there is, it is contradicted by powell. There was ample ways
to pursue both front. Besides, these are two different issues, the only
UN resolution guaranteeing force in case of non-compliance couldn't go
unenforced when it became obvious Saddam had breached it. This guy has
no fucking clue and got into the fray one year after he was out of the
loop just to embarrass the prez. S-P-U-R-I-O-U-S!

Something spurious about what the retired FBI agent was
saying about the need to question the Bin Laden family rather than let them
leave the country?

Of course there is. The Bin laden family had no clue about Binny, who
was the black sheep of the family, banned forever from Saudi Arabia and
considered a shame. binny didn't tell his family about his terror plan.
He didn't dwell in Oil. He was a fucking renegade. S-P-U-R-I-O-U-S!
Everything implied in Moore's film was total lies.
It is a shame that the media doesn't give 1% of the attention they gave
him to the only film that debunks him to the bone, "Celsius 41.11".
A damn shame.
J.
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