And that's the way it is....................... the way we "is" been
saying for a looooooooong time.
Published on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 by CommonDreams.org
Our Troops Must Leave Iraq
by Walter Cronkite and David Krieger
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/04/5598/
The American people no longer support the war in Iraq. The war is
being carried on by a stubborn president who, like Lyndon Johnson and
Richard Nixon during the Vietnam War, does not want to lose. But from
the beginning this has been an ill-considered and poorly prosecuted
war that, like the Vietnam War, has diminished respect for America. We
believe Mr. Bush would like to drag the war on long enough to hand it
off to another president.
The war in Iraq reminds us of the tragedy of the Vietnam War. Both
wars began with false assertions by the president to the American
people and the Congress. Like Vietnam, the Iraq War has introduced a
new vocabulary: "shock and awe," "mission accomplished," "the surge."
Like Vietnam, we have destroyed cities in order to save them. It is
not a strategy for success.
The Bush administration has attempted to forestall ending the war by
putting in more troops, but more troops will not solve the problem. We
have lost the hearts and minds of most of the Iraqi people, and
victory no longer seems to be even a remote possibility. It is time to
end our occupation of Iraq, and bring our troops home.
This war has had only limited body counts. There are reports that more
than one million Iraqis have died in the war. These reports cannot be
corroborated because the US military does not make public the number
of the Iraqi dead and injured. There are also reports that some four
million Iraqis have been displaced and are refugees either abroad or
within their own country. Iraqis with the resources to leave the
country have left. They are frightened. They don't trust the US, its
allies or its mercenaries to protect them and their interests.
We know more about the body counts of American soldiers in Iraq. Some
4,000 American soldiers have been killed in this war, about a third
more than the number of people who died in the terrorist attacks of
9/11. And some 28,000 American soldiers have suffered debilitating
injuries. Many more have been affected by the trauma of war in ways
that they will have to live with for the rest of their lives - ways
that will have serious effects not only on their lives and the lives
of their loved ones, but on society as a whole. Due to woefully
inadequate resources being provided, our injured soldiers are not
receiving the medical treatment and mental health care that they
deserve.
The invasion of Iraq was illegal from the start. Not only was Congress
lied to in order to secure its support for the invasion of Iraq, but
the war lacked the support of the United Nations Security Council and
thus was an aggressive war initiated on the false pretenses of weapons
of mass destruction. There were no weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq. Nor has any assertion of a relationship between Iraq and al
Qaeda proven to be true. In the end, democracy has not come to Iraq.
Its government is still being forced to bend to the will of the US
administration.
What the war has accomplished is the undermining of US credibility
throughout the world, the weakening of our military forces, and the
erosion of our Bill of Rights. Nobel Laureate economist Joseph
Stiglitz calculates that the war is costing American tax payers more
than $1 trillion. This amount could double if we continue the war.
Each minute we are spending $500,000 in Iraq. Our losses are
incalculable. It is time to remove our military forces from Iraq.
We must ask ourselves whether continuing to pursue this war is
benefiting the American people or weakening us. We must ask whether
continuing the war is benefiting the Iraqi people or inflicting
greater suffering upon them. We believe the answer to these inquiries
is that both the American and Iraqi people would benefit by ending the
US military presence in Iraq.
Moving forward is not complicated, but it will require courage. Step
one is to proceed with the rapid withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and
hand over the responsibility for the security of Iraq to Iraqi forces.
Step two is to remove our military bases from Iraq and to turn Iraqi
oil over to Iraqis. Step three is to provide resources to the Iraqis
to rebuild the infrastructure that has been destroyed in the war.
Congress must act. Although Congress never declared war, as required
by the Constitution, they did give the president the authority to
invade Iraq. Congress must now withdraw that authority and cease its
funding of the war.
It is not likely, however, that Congress will act unless the American
people make their voices heard with unmistakable clarity. That is the
way the Vietnam War was brought to an end. It is the way that the Iraq
War will also be brought to an end. The only question is whether it
will be now, or whether the war will drag on, with all the suffering
that implies, to an even more tragic, costly and degrading defeat. We
will be a better, stronger and more decent country to bring the troops
home now.
Walter Cronkite is the former long-time anchor for CBS Evening News.
David Krieger is President of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation.
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08 Dec 2007 08:51:03 PM |
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On Dec 8, 5:06 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Walter Cronkite, leftist kook
On CNN's Larry King Live, October 29, 2004 (just prior to the 2004
election), Walter Cronkite expressed his thought that Karl Rove had
probably "set up" Osama bin Laden's warning to the American people.
Who, other than a conspiracy believing leftist kook, would say such a
thing on national television? After that, I've wondered if he believes
the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition?
[excerpt from transcript of "Larry King Live" follows]
KING: Walter Cronkite, the legendary journalist and old friend, a
great man in the history of broadcast journalists, and maybe the most
revered person ever to go on camera. Let's first play a little bit of
this tape, in which bin Laden, released today, directly addresses the
American people. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
OSAMA BIN LADEN (through translator): Your security is not in the
hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands. Any nation that does not attack us will not be attacked.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: OK, Walter. What do you make of this?
CRONKITE: Well, I make it out to be initially the reaction that it's a
threat to us, that unless we make peace with him, in a sense, we can
expect further attacks. He did not say that precisely, but it sounds
like that when he says...
KING: The warning.
CRONKITE: What we just heard. So now the question is basically right
now, how will this affect the election? And I have a feeling that it
could tilt the election a bit. In fact, I'm a little inclined to think
that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a
very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing. The
advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of, as a principal
subject of the campaigns right now, get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump. Right now, that, the last couple of days,
has, I think, upset the Republican campaign. [end excerpt]
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/29/lkl.01.html
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08 Dec 2007 09:40:55 PM |
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I am no fan of Cronkite but the Iraq War IS much like
Vietnam.....Gulf of Tonkin incident same as
WMDs....fabricated to start war.....two Texans
of diff parties.....
now 60% of servicemens' families say Iraq War is
not worth it!!!!!!
like a bad trade, one must cut his losses and get out.....
which is what US should do IMMEDIATELY...not
next month, 6 months etc etc......GET OUT NOW!!!!!!
SPEND THE MONEY AT HOME!!!!!
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08 Dec 2007 11:42:43 PM |
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"EMD" <emd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:btJ6j.227599$kj1.148107
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
I am no fan of Cronkite but the Iraq War IS much like
Vietnam.....Gulf of Tonkin incident same as
WMDs....fabricated to start war.....two Texans
of diff parties.....
now 60% of servicemens' families say Iraq War is
not worth it!!!!!!
like a bad trade, one must cut his losses and get out.....
which is what US should do IMMEDIATELY...not
next month, 6 months etc etc......GET OUT NOW!!!!!!
SPEND THE MONEY AT HOME!!!!!
Don't mind.. that's just out little buddy stephen dogass trying to get
more Americans and Iraqis killed. The only argument they have any more
is attack the messenger (like he did with Cronkite) and change the subject
(this is something stephen is very good at). We're not sure why he does
it.. we think he went off the psychotic edge. Personally I think Bush
has a fetish for oil, and stephen has a fetish for Bush.. it's a man-love
thing you know.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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09 Dec 2007 12:05:43 AM |
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On Dec 8, 9:42 pm, Pers3id <pers...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"EMD" <e...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:btJ6j.227599$kj1.148107
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
I am no fan of Cronkite but the Iraq War IS much like
Vietnam.....Gulf of Tonkin incident same as
WMDs....fabricated to start war.....two Texans
of diff parties.....
now 60% of servicemens' families say Iraq War is
not worth it!!!!!!
like a bad trade, one must cut his losses and get out.....
which is what US should do IMMEDIATELY...not
next month, 6 months etc etc......GET OUT NOW!!!!!!
SPEND THE MONEY AT HOME!!!!!
Don't mind.. that's just out little buddy stephen dogass trying to get
more Americans and Iraqis killed. The only argument they have any more
is attack the messenger (like he did with Cronkite) and change the subject
Look at the subject line, Randy. Your posts are so inane anymore that
you're not even worth responding to.
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| User: "Pers3id" |
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09 Dec 2007 03:24:42 AM |
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Steven Douglas <dsteven@flashmail.com> wrote in
news:71c056ed-3def-482c-8ecb-2d1f46326784@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Dec 8, 9:42 pm, Pers3id <pers...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
"EMD" <e...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:btJ6j.227599$kj1.148107
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
I am no fan of Cronkite but the Iraq War IS much like
Vietnam.....Gulf of Tonkin incident same as
WMDs....fabricated to start war.....two Texans
of diff parties.....
now 60% of servicemens' families say Iraq War is
not worth it!!!!!!
like a bad trade, one must cut his losses and get out.....
which is what US should do IMMEDIATELY...not
next month, 6 months etc etc......GET OUT NOW!!!!!!
SPEND THE MONEY AT HOME!!!!!
Don't mind.. that's just out little buddy stephen dogass trying to
get more Americans and Iraqis killed. The only argument they have any
more is attack the messenger (like he did with Cronkite) and change
the subject
Look at the subject line, Randy. Your posts are so inane anymore that
you're not even worth responding to.
hey, you're the one who attacks the messenger instead of addressing
the message.. and you call other people kooks ? tell me again about how
we're going to give the iraqi people their oil back..
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 09:29:11 AM |
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On Dec 9, 4:24 am, Pers3id <pers...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
hey, you're the one who attacks the messenger instead of addressing
the message.. and you call other people kooks ?
Especially when Walter was clearly musing, joking that Rove was behind
the Bin Laden tape. Rove had been predicting an October surprise that
year. Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
More Stevie mischaracterization.
tell me again about how
we're going to give the iraqi people their oil back.
The question more than likely is, when with the Iraqi people take it
back?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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09 Dec 2007 02:34:39 PM |
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On Dec 9, 7:29 am, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 4:24 am, Pers3id <pers...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
hey, you're the one who attacks the messenger instead of addressing
the message.. and you call other people kooks ?
Especially when Walter was clearly musing, joking that Rove was behind
the Bin Laden tape.
It was *not* clear that he was joking. In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature. In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election. Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 03:01:34 PM |
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On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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09 Dec 2007 03:54:05 PM |
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On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 04:19:00 PM |
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Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
How often does Larry King laugh? Is he a humorist himself? Some kind
of an expert?
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say? He's contributed
far more to American culture than you ever will.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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09 Dec 2007 05:35:13 PM |
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"John Lemke" <jflemke@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:49952bea-f0c0-4217-9abc-c33008c2b5e9@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
How often does Larry King laugh? Is he a humorist himself? Some kind
of an expert?
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say? He's contributed
far more to American culture than you ever will.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
The Acorn missed most of Cronkite's long distinguished career in electronic
broadcasting. People of my generation began watching him when we were in
elementary school.
The Acorn's disdain for this man's opinions parallels his town lynch-mob
psychology regarding the credibility problems veteran newsman Dan Rather has
had in the past two years.
In the Acorn's perfectionistic, uptight world, a long-time respected veteran
of anything falls from his lofty pedestal of grace when he
acts...human...and makes a mistake or two.
That is, unless the human is one who shares the Acorn's myopic, fanatical
worldview. Then, he's permitted to make copious amounts of bad mistakes,
misjudgements, transparent outright lies, including reckless manipulations
that get folks murdered and injured, and usurp citzens' constitutional
rights.
I come from an era of more truth and morality in mass media (despite its
inherent pandering and money-mad exploitative competive nature, which has
always been around). 24/7 news venues today (as opposed to time-restricted
formats in my youthful days) are, comparatively, simply more dishonest,
manipulative, exploitative, mistake-prone, pandering, etc., than they once
were.
It's understandable that the Acorn, at his age, doesn't have a reference to
daily experiencing mass media that had more integrity, guts, intelligence,
and honesty.
It is, however, sickening to see people of his generation attacking the
icons of that largely bygone media period of better personal integrity,
perception, honesty, et al,
simply to keep from admitting he and those he supported were...fucking
crooks and assholes.
It's a sorry quiet spectacle here at APN of a tormented psychotic
personality that cares more to protect liars and crooks and assholes, than
to have the maturity and wisdom to merely admit they've been wrong and deal
with it. There is redemption waiting...if the Acorn can see past his own
nose, or get his nose outta sociopathic leaders' slimy criminal buttcracks.
Doc :))~
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09 Dec 2007 08:54:37 PM |
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On Dec 9, 3:35 pm, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
The Acorn missed most of Cronkite's long distinguished career in electronic
broadcasting.
Yes, I must admit I missed his entire radio career. But I did see him
for many years on the CBS Evening News before he retired in 1981.
In the Acorn's perfectionistic, uptight world, a long-time respected veteran
of anything falls from his lofty pedestal of grace when he
acts...human...and makes a mistake or two.
Let's see -- John thinks Walter was joking, and you think he made a
mistake. I think you're closer to the actual fact, Doc.
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 06:47:34 PM |
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On Dec 9, 6:35 pm, "Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
"John Lemke" <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:49952bea-f0c0-4217-9abc-c33008c2b5e9@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days before
the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
How often does Larry King laugh? Is he a humorist himself? Some kind
of an expert?
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say? He's contributed
far more to American culture than you ever will.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
The Acorn missed most of Cronkite's long distinguished career in electronic
broadcasting. People of my generation began watching him when we were in
elementary school.
The Acorn's disdain for this man's opinions parallels his town lynch-mob
psychology regarding the credibility problems veteran newsman Dan Rather has
had in the past two years.
In the Acorn's perfectionistic, uptight world, a long-time respected veteran
of anything falls from his lofty pedestal of grace when he
acts...human...and makes a mistake or two.
That is, unless the human is one who shares the Acorn's myopic, fanatical
worldview. Then, he's permitted to make copious amounts of bad mistakes,
misjudgements, transparent outright lies, including reckless manipulations
that get folks murdered and injured, and usurp citzens' constitutional
rights.
I come from an era of more truth and morality in mass media (despite its
inherent pandering and money-mad exploitative competive nature, which has
always been around). 24/7 news venues today (as opposed to time-restricted
formats in my youthful days) are, comparatively, simply more dishonest,
manipulative, exploitative, mistake-prone, pandering, etc., than they once
were.
It's understandable that the Acorn, at his age, doesn't have a reference to
daily experiencing mass media that had more integrity, guts, intelligence,
and honesty.
It is, however, sickening to see people of his generation attacking the
icons of that largely bygone media period of better personal integrity,
perception, honesty, et al,
simply to keep from admitting he and those he supported were...fucking
crooks and assholes.
It's a sorry quiet spectacle here at APN of a tormented psychotic
personality that cares more to protect liars and crooks and assholes, than
to have the maturity and wisdom to merely admit they've been wrong and deal
with it. There is redemption waiting...if the Acorn can see past his own
nose, or get his nose outta sociopathic leaders' slimy criminal buttcracks.
Doc :))~
Very true again, Doc. Doesn't take much to carry Stevie over the
edge. It's that compulsive personality.
I know we could play the Cronkite game forever with the obvious
subtext of Bush's lying, inept and murderous jaunt into Iraq and
Stevie's unending support of it being glaring to everyone but our
favorite blind ideologue.
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09 Dec 2007 05:13:25 PM |
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On Dec 9, 2:19 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
No, just trying to determine how you claim the ability to know when
he's expressing his "droll" sense of humor or when he's serious.
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
It is not clear he was joking. Maybe it is in your mind, but should he
have left *any* doubt (that he was or was not joking) about something
so potentially serious right before the election?
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
If it was a joke, Larry would have laughed.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days
before the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
There are subjects more appropriate for his humor than that subject,
especially right before an election.
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
I have a great sense of humor. I know humor when I see it. Walter's
remark, when taken in its full context, was not intended as humor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
He had a gleam in his eye before he ever heard the first question. But
that changed as he talked about Rove and bin Laden -- he was steely
eyed as he gave his explanation for why he thought Rove had "set up"
bin Laden's warning.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
He long ago admitted his liberal bias. Is it sliming him to show the
extremes of his bias?
How often does Larry King laugh?
He's got a great laugh when something is funny.
Is he a humorist himself? Some kind of an expert?
He's got a great sense of humor. Obviously you don't watch his show.
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Why are you sliming Larry King? You titled this thread, and it's about
Walter Cronkite.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Larry King does very well for what he does.
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say?
Am I not entitled to my opinion of words uttered by Walter Cronkite?
He's a leftist kook.
He's contributed far more to American culture than you ever will.
He's certainly more famous. I always liked Walter Cronkite. I
particularly enjoyed his broadcast the day Apollo 11 landed on the
moon.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
Right about what? Rove setting up bin Laden's warning?
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09 Dec 2007 07:06:36 PM |
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On Dec 9, 6:13 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 9, 2:19 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
No, just trying to determine how you claim the ability to know when
he's expressing his "droll" sense of humor or when he's serious.
Because he made me smile.
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
It is not clear he was joking.
Yes, it was.
Maybe it is in your mind, but should he
have left *any* doubt (that he was or was not joking) about something
so potentially serious right before the election?
In your opinion. He can be just as sly about Superman Rove as he
wants to be anytime he wants to be. Who are you to decide when
someone can exercise their wit or not?
Get off it Stevie.
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
If it was a joke, Larry would have laughed.
It probably went right over King's head. It may have only caused a
wry smile to cross his lips. Did you see his face when Walter said
that?
Maybe deep down inside Larry King is a humorless neocon also.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days
before the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing, joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
There are subjects more appropriate for his humor than that subject,
especially right before an election.
You're not the judge of that. And your opinion doesn't change the
fact Walter was shuckin' and jivin' that night.
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
I have a great sense of humor.
Cite?
I know humor when I see it. Walter's
remark, when taken in its full context, was not intended as humor.
Sorry you missed it, Mr. Pryor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
He had a gleam in his eye before he ever heard the first question. But
that changed as he talked about Rove and bin Laden -- he was steely
eyed as he gave his explanation for why he thought Rove had "set up"
bin Laden's warning.
Yup, 12,000 miles away in Afghanistan.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
He long ago admitted his liberal bias. Is it sliming him to show the
extremes of his bias?
He never admitted to any extreme liberal bias.
How often does Larry King laugh?
He's got a great laugh when something is funny.
When he catches something funny, maybe. But Walter's wry, sarcastic
comment only made me smile. It was still funny.
Is he a humorist himself? Some kind of an expert?
He's got a great sense of humor. Obviously you don't watch his show.
Got better things to do. He still showed no sign of catching Mr.
Cronkite's humor.
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Why are you sliming Larry King? You titled this thread, and it's about
Walter Cronkite.
I guess I'm trying to shame you by sliming one of your heroes the way
you slime 90 year old men the way you're constantly sliming people out
here.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Larry King does very well for what he does.
I've known Walter Cronkite for years, I watched him when I was growing
up. Larry King, Stevie, is no Walter Cronkite.
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement, or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say?
Am I not entitled to my opinion of words uttered by Walter Cronkite?
He's a leftist kook.
It's a free country. Walter Cronkite has the right to be as funny as
he wants to be.
And he also doesn't have the blood of tens of thousands of Iraqi's on
his hands.
He's contributed far more to American culture than you ever will.
He's certainly more famous. I always liked Walter Cronkite. I
particularly enjoyed his broadcast the day Apollo 11 landed on the
moon.
Then you're very familiar with his wry wit then, admit it.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
Right about what? Rove setting up bin Laden's warning?
No, that you neocon idiots have screwed up in Iraq and it's about time
to call it a day.
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
09 Dec 2007 07:19:49 PM |
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"John Lemke" <jflemke@locallink.net> wrote in message
news:a12f7c69-486a-48a8-a2eb-8982a2becee8@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 9, 6:13 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 9, 2:19 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Steven Douglas wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 3:34 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
It was *not* clear that he was joking.
It absolutely was, he's always had a very droll sense of humor.
Really? So how do you know he wasn't joking when he declared the
Vietnam War a lost cause?
Did those comments of his about Vietnam come in the form of a a very
few sentences on some talk show? As I recall they came at the height
of his career after a trip to Vietnam dedicated to to finding out the
truth.
Are you saying that his joke about Rove and bin Laden have the same
stature and impact as his declaring the Vietnam war a lost cause?
No, just trying to determine how you claim the ability to know when
he's expressing his "droll" sense of humor or when he's serious.
Because he made me smile.
Why would his seriousness about the War in Vietnam preclude him from
joking about Carl Rove manipulting some guy in a cave 12,000 miles
away?
It is not clear he was joking.
Yes, it was.
Maybe it is in your mind, but should he
have left *any* doubt (that he was or was not joking) about something
so potentially serious right before the election?
In your opinion. He can be just as sly about Superman Rove as he
wants to be anytime he wants to be. Who are you to decide when
someone can exercise their wit or not?
Get off it Stevie.
In any case, a man of his
stature should not make jokes of that nature.
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated
the
world's most modern man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan
cave?
ROTFLMAO!
Larry King didn't laugh. In fact, if you actually saw him say it, he
was clearly *serious* as he explained his reasoning for his
statement.
How hard should Larry have laughed at a very droll and subtle joke?
You clearly missed it altogether.
If it was a joke, Larry would have laughed.
It probably went right over King's head. It may have only caused a
wry smile to cross his lips. Did you see his face when Walter said
that?
I've watched more Larry King interviews than the Acorn has, I'd bet. That
ol' decrepit Jew's been around forever ... and, gee, so have I ! LOL!
Seriously, I've noticed that King has missed moments of subtlely clever
(very wry ) sarcasm or wit and then, lo and behold, a delayed reaction
occurs and King chuckles...or simply misses the entire attitudinal context
of it.
The very fact is that sometimes the camera isn't on Larry at the very moment
such a remark is made, but is slightly delayed. That can result in a
misleading interpretation of how King reacts to any given remark, joke,
witism, etc. And the same applies to his guests' facial reactions.
We all learn to read a person's face as they talk, and it is vital to more
completely understanding the more delicately nuanced expressions, words,
phrases, etc., but television coverage can leave some of this "visual info"
missing.
Just my two cents worth! heehee...now, back to the usual long thread grind
with the Acorn...
Doc :))~
Maybe deep down inside Larry King is a humorless neocon also.
In fact, only a leftist
kook or a known comedian would have made such a joke mere days
before the election.
You're overreacting again. It's America, he can mildly joke about
anything he likes.
Of course he *can* say anything he likes. But with his reputation as
America's most trusted man, *should* he have said such a thing,
joking
or not?
Why can't America's most trusted man exhibit a dry wit from time to
time?
There are subjects more appropriate for his humor than that subject,
especially right before an election.
You're not the judge of that. And your opinion doesn't change the
fact Walter was shuckin' and jivin' that night.
I guess it would help to have a sense of humor in order to understand
humor.
I have a great sense of humor.
Cite?
I know humor when I see it. Walter's
remark, when taken in its full context, was not intended as humor.
Sorry you missed it, Mr. Pryor.
Taken in context, what is clear is that Walter thought
Rove probably "set up" bin Laden to "get rid of the whole problem
of
the al Qaqaa explosive dump." It's clear Walter thought Rove
probably
"set up" bin Laden to get the al Qaqaa story out of the
headlines.
Only if you're a humorless right wing kook and mindless ideologue.
He said "to get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive
dump" with a straight face. There is no way he was joking. Deal with
it.
You obviously didn't catch the gleam in his eye.
He had a gleam in his eye before he ever heard the first question. But
that changed as he talked about Rove and bin Laden -- he was steely
eyed as he gave his explanation for why he thought Rove had "set up"
bin Laden's warning.
Yup, 12,000 miles away in Afghanistan.
Rove had been predicting an October surprise that year.
Does that mean you're also inclined, just like Walter, to think
Rove
probably "set up" bin Laden's warning to the American people?
No, it simply sets up Walter's joke.
But he didn't set up his own joke, and Larry King wasn't laughing.
The whole thing plays straight to humor. I guess you can't see that
when you're trying so hard to slime a 90 year old man.
He long ago admitted his liberal bias. Is it sliming him to show the
extremes of his bias?
He never admitted to any extreme liberal bias.
How often does Larry King laugh?
He's got a great laugh when something is funny.
When he catches something funny, maybe. But Walter's wry, sarcastic
comment only made me smile. It was still funny.
Is he a humorist himself? Some kind of an expert?
He's got a great sense of humor. Obviously you don't watch his show.
Got better things to do. He still showed no sign of catching Mr.
Cronkite's humor.
You're giving a lot of credence to a guy (Larry King) who has a very
checkered past, Stevie.
Why are you sliming Larry King? You titled this thread, and it's about
Walter Cronkite.
I guess I'm trying to shame you by sliming one of your heroes the way
you slime 90 year old men the way you're constantly sliming people out
here.
Does America trust Larry King as much as they trusted Walter Cronkite?
Larry King does very well for what he does.
I've known Walter Cronkite for years, I watched him when I was growing
up. Larry King, Stevie, is no Walter Cronkite.
Bush and Kerry both stated that the tape aided Bush in a very
close election.
So are you saying Walter was correct to have made that statement,
or
not?
It's still America, Stevie...............
I didn't ask if he has the right to make that statement. Of course he
does, thank God. My question was to you -- do you believe he was
*correct* to have made that statement, or not?
Who are you to judge what's the right thing to say?
Am I not entitled to my opinion of words uttered by Walter Cronkite?
He's a leftist kook.
It's a free country. Walter Cronkite has the right to be as funny as
he wants to be.
And he also doesn't have the blood of tens of thousands of Iraqi's on
his hands.
He's contributed far more to American culture than you ever will.
He's certainly more famous. I always liked Walter Cronkite. I
particularly enjoyed his broadcast the day Apollo 11 landed on the
moon.
Then you're very familiar with his wry wit then, admit it.
All you can do here is attack a highly revered 90 year old man who
just happens to be right.
Right about what? Rove setting up bin Laden's warning?
No, that you neocon idiots have screwed up in Iraq and it's about time
to call it a day.
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10 Dec 2007 12:23:03 AM |
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
I've watched more Larry King interviews than the Acorn
has, I'd bet.
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
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10 Dec 2007 05:24:59 AM |
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"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Docrodile" <swampth...@hellsbayou.net> wrote:
I've watched more Larry King interviews than the Acorn
has, I'd bet.
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
....Gee, I found this boast from you at soc.motss --
"I think we can all agree that I often speak for Florence
Henderson, and occasionally I speak for Ms. McKinky."
Well, psycho fairy, I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
can't afford to be picky.
The difference is I let my favorite celebs do the talking for themselves.
If you'd merely kept your acrid presence here limited to your bloated
arrogant opining and ridiculous Nostradamus channeled communications, it'd
gone a lot smoother for ya. Instead, you chose a rocky path of continual
harassment for your sadistic entertainment, and that sick behaviour, dear
fairy, is exactly what denotes you as a bonafide psychotic. If you had taken
notice yet, I've already said repeatedly I'm psychotic and disabled. So, why
do we need you to spout off about it? Obviously any intended 'shock' value
or attempts at 'social stigmatization' is lost by my self-admittance. You
need to take stock of your own shitty behaviour here, Johnny, and ask
yourself seriously: why is it that you can't just derive pleasure from
reasoned debates, normal conversations, and good-natured arguments, or
simply posting news items for discussion?
Because for a psychotic personality, there's a serious undercurrent of
unresolved conflict that keeps bubbling up, and the fall-out from it more
damages you than your targets here or anywhere.
There's nothing much can be said about a man who has spent over 15 years
kicking posters around for sadistic entertainment, other than he's a
disturbed personality, an immature person, who is his own worst enemy.
Rather than enjoy "poking fun at the mentally ill", your assinine belittling
behaviour exposes you as one of that group you poke fun at. And there's the
running absurdity of your presence here.
Do you not see that, psycho?
You take that stick and poke it at yourself every time you're here.
You sad lil' man.
Doc :))~
LOL!! :)~
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
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| User: "Werewolfy" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
10 Dec 2007 05:06:36 AM |
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On 10 Dec, 06:23, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
Nah Nah..Nah Nah Nah. *Pokes out tongue and makes wiggling signs with
fingers close to head* Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah.
Childish fool.
Werewolfy
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
10 Dec 2007 05:35:24 AM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:48181bf3-fadf-467a-8ea4-a33cb6770b06@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On 10 Dec, 06:23, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
Nah Nah..Nah Nah Nah. *Pokes out tongue and makes wiggling signs with
fingers close to head* Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah.
Childish fool.
Werewolfy
....or, is it...foolish child? LOL! I can't decide!
Doc :))~
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
11 Dec 2007 08:31:35 AM |
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On Dec 10, 6:06 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 10 Dec, 06:23, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
Nah Nah..Nah Nah Nah. *Pokes out tongue and makes wiggling signs with
fingers close to head* Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah.
Childish fool.
Werewolfy
You are a childdish fool and a Douche Bag!!!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
11 Dec 2007 01:59:05 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:31:35 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Dec 10, 6:06 am, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 10 Dec, 06:23, JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess we all need something to be proud of, and you
certainly can't afford to be picky...
[pats retard on greasy head]
Congratulations, dirt crack, on figuring out how to turn
on the TV.
Nah Nah..Nah Nah Nah. *Pokes out tongue and makes wiggling signs with
fingers close to head* Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah.
Childish fool.
Werewolfy
You are a childdish fool and a Douche Bag!!!
Dag, Yo. Damn you is one stupid mo-fo. You is like a parrot, dogg.
Hulio
(Straight out da hood MUTHA FUCKERS! Representin all ma peeps, ma
doggs and ma homies from SOUTH CENTRAL LA).
Everyone step the ***** back when Hulio walk on da scene.
You heard dat?
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| User: "Dani" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
10 Dec 2007 11:02:33 PM |
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:23:03 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
wrote:
Congratulations, dirt crack,
I Thought you liked dirt crack?
Dani
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| User: "Docrodile" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
11 Dec 2007 09:47:35 AM |
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"Dani" <d.b737@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qc6sl3pi297o4bd35g67d8o8picdkigb1o@4ax.com...
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:23:03 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
wrote:
Congratulations, dirt crack,
I Thought you liked dirt crack?
Dani
LOL!! ;)~ He's likely an expert on that subject as he is on every subject
known to humankind. Johnny's a bottomless well of infinite information and
sage wisdom , and always in touch with his wise ol' spirit pal, Nostradamus.
In between fateful channeling sessions and talking trivial baseball *****,
Johnny mischievously fiddles with Cal's chocolate starfish. Cal gets mad,
though, and assumes the role of Johnny's incestuous sadistic daddy,
whipping, urinating and defecating on him. But, JTEM likes it. He squeezes
the Cal inflatable pig really hard during those sessions...often sweet
talking it, and licking its lil' hooves and coiled tail.
Doc
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
11 Dec 2007 08:32:36 AM |
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On Dec 11, 12:02 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:23:03 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Congratulations, dirt crack,
I Thought you liked dirt crack?
Dani
No, that is the Doc by his own admit!!!
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| User: "Inger Stevens" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
15 Dec 2007 01:04:37 AM |
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<danisnewlover@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a45ead7-0690-40a8-960c-7d1809c6aca2@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 11, 12:02 am, Dani <d.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:23:03 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jte...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Congratulations, dirt crack,
I Thought you liked dirt crack?
Dani
No, that is the Doc by his own admit!!!
Who gives a flying squirrel's ***** about him? It's YOU I want, my sweet dead
love!!
I must have your rotting shaft drilling me tonight!!
INger
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
09 Dec 2007 08:55:47 PM |
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On Dec 9, 5:06 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
On Dec 9, 6:13 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 9, 2:19 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
He's contributed far more to American culture than you ever will.
He's certainly more famous. I always liked Walter Cronkite. I
particularly enjoyed his broadcast the day Apollo 11 landed on the
moon.
Then you're very familiar with his wry wit then, admit it.
Yes, that's why I know he wasn't joking when he explained his
reasoning for thinking Rove probably "set up" bin Laden's warning.
When was the last time you saw the video we're discussing?
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 03:05:48 PM |
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On Dec 9, 4:01 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Sorry, the Lions are beating the Cowboys and I shouldn't listen to
football while posting. I rarely watch football anymore.
Correction follows:
That the mighty political superman Karl Rove may have manipulated the
world's most WANTED man while Bin Ladin was hiding in an Afghan cave?
ROTFLMAO!
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Dec 2007 09:32:02 AM |
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EMD wrote:
I am no fan of Cronkite but the Iraq War IS much like
Vietnam.....Gulf of Tonkin incident same as
WMDs....fabricated to start war.....two Texans
of diff parties.....
now 60% of servicemens' families say Iraq War is
not worth it!!!!!!
like a bad trade, one must cut his losses and get out.....
which is what US should do IMMEDIATELY...not
next month, 6 months etc etc......GET OUT NOW!!!!!!
SPEND THE MONEY AT HOME!!!!!
No Tet Offensive up until this point.
Wait and see if Israel goes ahead and attacks Iran "anyway". See if
the US supports our dear ally. See if al Sadr brings his rested and
refreshed militia out of the woodwork to support his dear ally.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Walter Cronkite, leftist kook |
09 Dec 2007 07:22:05 PM |
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On Dec 8, 9:51 pm, Steven Douglas <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 5:06 pm, John Lemke <jfle...@locallink.net> wrote:
Walter Cronkite, leftist kook
On CNN's Larry King Live, October 29, 2004 (just prior to the 2004
election), Walter Cronkite expressed his thought that Karl Rove had
probably "set up" Osama bin Laden's warning to the American people.
Who, other than a conspiracy believing leftist kook, would say such a
thing on national television? After that, I've wondered if he believes
the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition?
And who but a leftist kook would say that Osama was a CIA Asset in the
80's?
That the US funded and trained the Mujahideen in order to provide a
thorn in the side of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan? Who would
hint that the mujahideen eventually became the Taliban?
Who would dare to suggest that the Bush family has close ties
with Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden family? Who would be kooky
enough to think that the US Military Industrial Complex needed
a boogieman after the break up of the Soviet Union? Who but
a leftist would be so ignorant as to say that the US Military Complex
along with Haliburton, Blackwater, CACI and other contractors
in Iraq have recieved on the order of 2 trillion dollars since 9/11.
Who would say that Hailburton's stock price has quadrupled
since the war on Iraq started thanks to no-bid contracts
and cost plus financial agreements? Who, but a leftist kook, would
think that Cheney might have something to gain considering
he was the CEO of Haliburton and still has large holdings in
the company?
I would. I'm no leftist. Walter Cronkite would. Anyone who isn't
afraid
or ignorant enough to blindly believe anything the press
tells him would.
Here, check this out... It's called Iraq for Sale. Can be found
here:
http://www.untilthesunstops.org/
under the More+ tab. It is also currently on Comcast Digital Cable
free movies.
Please don't bother responding until you've WATCHED the video. Then
the next
time some idiot politician mentions "honor," you'll know precisely how
nauseous
to become.
S~
Ron Paul '08 (psst, he's a Republican)
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