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IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser
Emad Mekay
Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.
WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip
Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September
2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for
the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to
Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.
Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect
Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W.
Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link
between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its
concern for Israel's security.
The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to
liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
(WMD) and to protect the United States.
Zelikow made his statements about ”the unstated threat” during his
tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports
directly to the president.
He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.
”Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll
tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since
1990 -- it's the threat against Israel,” Zelikow told a crowd at the
University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of
foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of
the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.
”And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the
Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you
frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on
it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,” said Zelikow.
The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked
to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so
far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis,
was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.
The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel,
neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to
ward off accusations that it derailed the ”war on terrorism” it
launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have
posed no direct threat to the United States.
Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving
annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.
Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside
government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access
to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to
play their vital advisory role.
Known in intelligence circles as ”Piffy-ab”, the board is supposed to
evaluate the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes
they make.
The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known
as ”code word” that is higher than top secret.
The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush
(1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work
overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups
and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance Office.
Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email
messages from IPS for this story.
Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.
Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the
current president's transition team in January 2001.
In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National
Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.
Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's
predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush
senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not
heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he
briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.
Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush
administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book
about the unification of Germany.
Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official --
Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three
books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the
”Muslim Middle East”.
Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also
director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett
Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.
His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a
conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11
attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.
In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the
Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that
Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of ”scarce hard
currency” to harness ”communications against electromagnetic pulse”, a
side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic
and electrical communications.
That was ”a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride
out a nuclear exchange -- they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to
ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride
out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis”, according to Zelikow.
He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into
the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by
its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United
States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point
where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.
”Play out those scenarios,” he told his audience, ”and I will tell
you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking
very much about it”.
”Don't look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask
yourself the question, 'gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian
Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in
Israel'? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant.”
To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to
protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and
writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the
administration.
Analysts who reviewed Zelikow's statements said they are concrete
evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has
been hushed up.
”Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the
protection of Israel as a component,” said Phyllis Bennis of the
Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. ”But this is a very good
piece of evidence of that.”
Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to
the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.
”They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then
started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in
search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it,
people are trying to read something into it,” said Nathan Brown,
professor of political science at George Washington University and an
expert on the Middle East.
But he downplayed the Israel link. ”In terms of securing Israel, it
doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more
concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the
long-term strategic threat,” he said.
Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight.
”Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit
more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it
doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or
Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about
for justification for a decision that has already been made,” Brown
said. (END/2004)
Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
(END)
.

User: "dreamwalker"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 01 May 2004 02:34:31 PM
<jjwalshh@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:luo7905e0qnnnl8dk9m3ee1dviuglvmmpo@4ax.com...

IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip
Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September
2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for
the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to
Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect
Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W.
Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link
between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its
concern for Israel's security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to
liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
(WMD) and to protect the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his
tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports
directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll
tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since
1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the
University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of
foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of
the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.

"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the
Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you
frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on
it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked
to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so
far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis,
was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel,
neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to
ward off accusations that it derailed the "war on terrorism" it
launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have
posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving
annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside
government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access
to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to
play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as "Piffy-ab", the board is supposed to
evaluate the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes
they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known
as "code word" that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush
(1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work
overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups
and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email
messages from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the
current president's transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National
Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's
predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush
senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not
heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he
briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush
administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book
about the unification of Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official --
Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three
books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the
"Muslim Middle East".

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also
director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett
Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a
conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11
attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.

In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the
Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that
Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of "scarce hard
currency" to harness "communications against electromagnetic pulse", a
side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic
and electrical communications.

That was "a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride
out a nuclear exchange -- they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to
ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride
out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis", according to Zelikow.

He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into
the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by
its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United
States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point
where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.

"Play out those scenarios," he told his audience, "and I will tell
you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking
very much about it".

"Don't look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask
yourself the question, 'gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian
Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in
Israel'? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant."

To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to
protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and
writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the
administration.

Analysts who reviewed Zelikow's statements said they are concrete
evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has
been hushed up.

"Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the
protection of Israel as a component," said Phyllis Bennis of the
Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. "But this is a very good
piece of evidence of that."

Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to
the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.

"They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then
started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in
search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it,
people are trying to read something into it," said Nathan Brown,
professor of political science at George Washington University and an
expert on the Middle East.

But he downplayed the Israel link. "In terms of securing Israel, it
doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more
concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the
long-term strategic threat," he said.

Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight.

"Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit
more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it
doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or
Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about
for justification for a decision that has already been made," Brown
said. (END/2004)



Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

(END)

America also entered WW2 in part to free and protect France/Britain. American tends to do that with
friends.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 02 May 2004 05:41:02 AM
On Sat, 1 May 2004 14:34:31 -0500, "dreamwalker"
<backfromthe@dead.com> wrote:


<jjwalshh@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:luo7905e0qnnnl8dk9m3ee1dviuglvmmpo@4ax.com...

IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip
Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September
2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for
the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to
Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect
Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W.
Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link
between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its
concern for Israel's security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to
liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
(WMD) and to protect the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his
tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports
directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll
tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since
1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the
University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of
foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of
the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.

"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the
Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you
frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on
it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked
to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so
far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis,
was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel,
neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to
ward off accusations that it derailed the "war on terrorism" it
launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have
posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving
annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside
government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access
to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to
play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as "Piffy-ab", the board is supposed to
evaluate the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes
they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known
as "code word" that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush
(1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work
overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups
and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email
messages from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the
current president's transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National
Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's
predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush
senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not
heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he
briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush
administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book
about the unification of Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official --
Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three
books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the
"Muslim Middle East".

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also
director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett
Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a
conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11
attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.

In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the
Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that
Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of "scarce hard
currency" to harness "communications against electromagnetic pulse", a
side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic
and electrical communications.

That was "a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride
out a nuclear exchange -- they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to
ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride
out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis", according to Zelikow.

He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into
the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by
its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United
States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point
where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.

"Play out those scenarios," he told his audience, "and I will tell
you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking
very much about it".

"Don't look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask
yourself the question, 'gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian
Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in
Israel'? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant."

To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to
protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and
writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the
administration.

Analysts who reviewed Zelikow's statements said they are concrete
evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has
been hushed up.

"Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the
protection of Israel as a component," said Phyllis Bennis of the
Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. "But this is a very good
piece of evidence of that."

Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to
the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.

"They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then
started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in
search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it,
people are trying to read something into it," said Nathan Brown,
professor of political science at George Washington University and an
expert on the Middle East.

But he downplayed the Israel link. "In terms of securing Israel, it
doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more
concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the
long-term strategic threat," he said.

Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight.

"Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit
more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it
doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or
Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about
for justification for a decision that has already been made," Brown
said. (END/2004)



Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

(END)


America also entered WW2 in part to free and protect France/Britain. American tends to do that with
friends.

The only friends the American pond scum have are no better than
themselves...Jews...nuff said.
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 01 May 2004 04:00:14 PM
dreamwalker a crit:

<jjwalshh@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:luo7905e0qnnnl8dk9m3ee1dviuglvmmpo@4ax.com...

IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip
Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September
2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for
the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to
Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect
Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W.
Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link
between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its
concern for Israel's security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to
liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
(WMD) and to protect the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his
tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports
directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll
tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since
1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the
University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of
foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of
the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.

"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the
Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you
frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on
it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked
to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so
far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis,
was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel,
neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to
ward off accusations that it derailed the "war on terrorism" it
launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have
posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving
annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside
government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access
to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to
play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as "Piffy-ab", the board is supposed to
evaluate the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes
they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known
as "code word" that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush
(1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work
overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups
and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email
messages from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the
current president's transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National
Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's
predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush
senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not
heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he
briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush
administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book
about the unification of Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official --
Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three
books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the
"Muslim Middle East".

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also
director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett
Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a
conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11
attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.

In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the
Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that
Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of "scarce hard
currency" to harness "communications against electromagnetic pulse", a
side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic
and electrical communications.

That was "a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride
out a nuclear exchange -- they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to
ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride
out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis", according to Zelikow.

He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into
the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by
its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United
States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point
where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.

"Play out those scenarios," he told his audience, "and I will tell
you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking
very much about it".

"Don't look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask
yourself the question, 'gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian
Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in
Israel'? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant."

To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to
protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and
writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the
administration.

Analysts who reviewed Zelikow's statements said they are concrete
evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has
been hushed up.

"Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the
protection of Israel as a component," said Phyllis Bennis of the
Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. "But this is a very good
piece of evidence of that."

Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to
the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.

"They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then
started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in
search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it,
people are trying to read something into it," said Nathan Brown,
professor of political science at George Washington University and an
expert on the Middle East.

But he downplayed the Israel link. "In terms of securing Israel, it
doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more
concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the
long-term strategic threat," he said.

Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight.

"Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit
more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it
doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or
Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about
for justification for a decision that has already been made," Brown
said. (END/2004)



Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

(END)



America also entered WW2 in part to free and protect France/Britain. American tends to do that with
friends.


Maybe, but this is ludictrous, The US implemented 1441 as they had to in order
to keep the UN relevant. All you see here are lies by anti-US/anti-Israel wallowers.
This jjwalsh must be dorkshit, aka zaaakaaassss, alias the shame of Canada,
again, who borrows yet another nick to spread his lies.
Wonder what cybercrime he has done this time, since he has changed his server as
well, but we can recognize his ignorant style and Muslim terrorists guilt
dumping modus operandi.
J.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 02 May 2004 05:42:50 AM
On Sat, 01 May 2004 21:00:14 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:



dreamwalker a écrit:

<jjwalshh@yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:luo7905e0qnnnl8dk9m3ee1dviuglvmmpo@4ax.com...

IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

WASHINGTON, Mar 29 (IPS) - IPS uncovered the remarks by Philip
Zelikow, who is now the executive director of the body set up to
investigate the terrorist attacks on the United States in September
2001 -- the 9/11 commission -- in which he suggests a prime motive for
the invasion just over one year ago was to eliminate a threat to
Israel, a staunch U.S. ally in the Middle East.

Zelikow's casting of the attack on Iraq as one launched to protect
Israel appears at odds with the public position of President George W.
Bush and his administration, which has never overtly drawn the link
between its war on the regime of former president Hussein and its
concern for Israel's security.

The administration has instead insisted it launched the war to
liberate the Iraqi people, destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
(WMD) and to protect the United States.

Zelikow made his statements about "the unstated threat" during his
tenure on a highly knowledgeable and well-connected body known as the
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports
directly to the president.

He served on the board between 2001 and 2003.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll
tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since
1990 -- it's the threat against Israel," Zelikow told a crowd at the
University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of
foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of
the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation.

"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the
Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you
frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on
it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell," said Zelikow.

The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked
to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so
far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis,
was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.

The administration, which is surrounded by staunch pro-Israel,
neo-conservative hawks, is currently fighting an extensive campaign to
ward off accusations that it derailed the "war on terrorism" it
launched after 9/11 by taking a detour to Iraq, which appears to have
posed no direct threat to the United States.

Israel is Washington's biggest ally in the Middle East, receiving
annual direct aid of three to four billion dollars.

Even though members of the 16-person PFIAB come from outside
government, they enjoy the confidence of the president and have access
to all information related to foreign intelligence that they need to
play their vital advisory role.

Known in intelligence circles as "Piffy-ab", the board is supposed to
evaluate the nation's intelligence agencies and probe any mistakes
they make.

The unpaid appointees on the board require a security clearance known
as "code word" that is higher than top secret.

The national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush
(1989-93) Brent Scowcroft, currently chairs the board in its work
overseeing a number of intelligence bodies, including the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), the various military intelligence groups
and the Pentagon's National Reconnaissance Office.

Neither Scowcroft nor Zelikow returned numerous phone calls and email
messages from IPS for this story.

Zelikow has long-established ties to the Bush administration.

Before his appointment to PFIAB in October 2001, he was part of the
current president's transition team in January 2001.

In that capacity, Zelikow drafted a memo for National Security Adviser
Condoleezza Rice on reorganising and restructuring the National
Security Council (NSC) and prioritising its work.

Richard A. Clarke, who was counter-terrorism coordinator for Bush's
predecessor President Bill Clinton (1993-2001) also worked for Bush
senior, and has recently accused the current administration of not
heeding his terrorism warnings, said Zelikow was among those he
briefed about the urgent threat from al-Qaeda in December 2000.

Rice herself had served in the NSC during the first Bush
administration, and subsequently teamed up with Zelikow on a 1995 book
about the unification of Germany.

Zelikow had ties with another senior Bush administration official --
Robert Zoellick, the current trade representative. The two wrote three
books together, including one in 1998 on the United States and the
"Muslim Middle East".

Aside from his position at the 9/11 commission, Zelikow is now also
director of the Miller Centre of Public Affairs and White Burkett
Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia.

His close ties to the administration prompted accusations of a
conflict of interest in 2002 from families of victims of the 9/11
attacks, who protested his appointment to the investigative body.

In his university speech, Zelikow, who strongly backed attacking the
Iraqi dictator, also explained the threat to Israel by arguing that
Baghdad was preparing in 1990-91 to spend huge amounts of "scarce hard
currency" to harness "communications against electromagnetic pulse", a
side-effect of a nuclear explosion that could sever radio, electronic
and electrical communications.

That was "a perfectly absurd expenditure unless you were going to ride
out a nuclear exchange -- they (Iraqi officials) were not preparing to
ride out a nuclear exchange with us. Those were preparations to ride
out a nuclear exchange with the Israelis", according to Zelikow.

He also suggested that the danger of biological weapons falling into
the hands of the anti-Israeli Islamic Resistance Movement, known by
its Arabic acronym Hamas, would threaten Israel rather than the United
States, and that those weapons could have been developed to the point
where they could deter Washington from attacking Hamas.

"Play out those scenarios," he told his audience, "and I will tell
you, people have thought about that, but they are just not talking
very much about it".

"Don't look at the links between Iraq and al-Qaeda, but then ask
yourself the question, 'gee, is Iraq tied to Hamas and the Palestinian
Islamic Jihad and the people who are carrying out suicide bombings in
Israel'? Easy question to answer; the evidence is abundant."

To date, the possibility of the United States attacking Iraq to
protect Israel has been only timidly raised by some intellectuals and
writers, with few public acknowledgements from sources close to the
administration.

Analysts who reviewed Zelikow's statements said they are concrete
evidence of one factor in the rationale for going to war, which has
been hushed up.

"Those of us speaking about it sort of routinely referred to the
protection of Israel as a component," said Phyllis Bennis of the
Washington-based Institute of Policy Studies. "But this is a very good
piece of evidence of that."

Others say the administration should be blamed for not making known to
the public its true intentions and real motives for invading Iraq.

"They (the administration) made a decision to invade Iraq, and then
started to search for a policy to justify it. It was a decision in
search of a policy and because of the odd way they went about it,
people are trying to read something into it," said Nathan Brown,
professor of political science at George Washington University and an
expert on the Middle East.

But he downplayed the Israel link. "In terms of securing Israel, it
doesn't make sense to me because the Israelis are probably more
concerned about Iran than they were about Iraq in terms of the
long-term strategic threat," he said.

Still, Brown says Zelikow's words carried weight.

"Certainly his position would allow him to speak with a little bit
more expertise about the thinking of the Bush administration, but it
doesn't strike me that he is any more authoritative than Wolfowitz, or
Rice or Powell or anybody else. All of them were sort of fishing about
for justification for a decision that has already been made," Brown
said. (END/2004)



Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

(END)



America also entered WW2 in part to free and protect France/Britain. American tends to do that with
friends.



Maybe, but this is ludictrous, The US implemented 1441 as they had to in order
to keep the UN relevant. All you see here are lies by anti-US/anti-Israel wallowers.

This jjwalsh must be dorkshit, aka zaaakaaassss, alias the shame of Canada,
again, who borrows yet another nick to spread his lies.

Wonder what cybercrime he has done this time, since he has changed his server as
well, but we can recognize his ignorant style and Muslim terrorists guilt
dumping modus operandi.

J.

Didn't change ***** FROG, I am a man of many masks, sent here just to
torment American pond scum and Idiots like you FURRBALL.
Hahahahahahahah
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 02 May 2004 06:38:06 AM
<Zak@home.com> wrote in message
news:s2k990dvd5i8v79itg64g3uhmg558ula9u@4ax.com...

Didn't change ***** FROG, I am a man of many masks,

All of them fat and greasy.

sent here just to torment American pond scum and Idiots like you FURRBALL.

If this dickless wonder considers this "torment" it's no wonder he needs to
quote other people all the time, he's too stupid to think for himself.

Hahahahahahahah

This lardy twat is funny, that's for sure ;0)
--
krib
.
User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 03 May 2004 09:19:26 PM
Krib a crit:

<Zak@home.com> wrote in message
news:s2k990dvd5i8v79itg64g3uhmg558ula9u@4ax.com...

Didn't change ***** FROG, I am a man of many masks,



All of them fat and greasy.

hehe



sent here just to torment American pond scum and Idiots like you FURRBALL.



If this dickless wonder considers this "torment" it's no wonder he needs to
quote other people all the time, he's too stupid to think for himself.

Exactly.


Hahahahahahahah



This lardy twat is funny, that's for sure ;0)
--
krib


Well, comical, maybe. Funny? I don't think he will ever get the wits.
J.
.


User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 01 Jun 2004 03:48:10 PM
wrote in message news:<s2k990dvd5i8v79itg64g3uhmg558ula9u@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 01 May 2004 21:00:14 GMT, Jean Guernon
I am a man of many masks...

but no brain cells.
Would 'AK' be one of them? ;)
.




User: "Gerald"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 01 May 2004 04:40:27 PM
In article <luo7905e0qnnnl8dk9m3ee1dviuglvmmpo@4ax.com>,

says...


IRAQ:
War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

Nice try but no gold star. Sorry apologizers but the lunatics in the WH were
hell-bent to invade Iraq without regard to Israel. Our misfortune is that our
leaders maximo are a bunch of irresponsible loonies. But, hey, don't stop
looking for excuses.
Gerald
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 02 May 2004 03:00:27 AM
Even if this is true, so what?
Since when is it a bad thing to protect ones Allies?
Would you pinheada have rathered that Saddam attack Israel and start an all out
war?
Tony
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 02 May 2004 06:35:55 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040502040027.27780.00000866@mb-m11.aol.com...

Would you pinheada have rathered that Saddam attack Israel and start an

all out

war?

"pinheada" is that your eye-talian accent tony? ;0)
--
krib
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 03 May 2004 07:30:58 AM

Krib" <krib@address.invalid>

wrote:


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040502040027.27780.00000866@mb-m11.aol.com...

Would you pinheada have rathered that Saddam attack Israel and start an

all out

war?

"pinheada" is that your eye-talian accent >tony? ;0)
krib

Yep, that's it.
Tony
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 03 May 2004 10:17:56 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040503083058.02695.00000526@mb-m21.aol.com...

"pinheada" is that your eye-talian accent >tony? ;0)

Yep, that's it.

Phew! thank goodness, I was worried that steroid abuse or
autism had caused your spelling problem again. You can
carry on now "sonny" ;0)
--
krib
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 04 May 2004 06:53:43 AM

Krib" <krib@address.invalid>

wrote:


"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040503083058.02695.00000526@mb-m21.aol.com...

"pinheada" is that your eye-talian accent >tony? ;0)


Yep, that's it.

Phew! thank goodness, I was worried that >steroid abuse or
autism had caused your spelling problem >again. You can
carry on now "sonny" ;0)
krib

Yeah ok, Amy.
Tony
.
User: "Krib"

Title: Re: War launched to protect Israel 04 May 2004 07:10:16 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040504075343.25861.00000550@mb-m04.aol.com...

Yeah ok, Amy.

Aww what's up tranny? you getting all upset there?
Strange how you can dish out abuse but you whine like
a ***** when it's thrown back at you, must be your
'feminine' sensitive side ;0)
--
krib
.








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