O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
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By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline employees
swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare
International Airport last fall. Federal officials say nonsense - it was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United
Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7. The
sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the
overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until
shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation Administration
acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at
O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But
the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar
found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory
said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said. "That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds,
sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune has
more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
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04 Jan 2007 05:51:27 AM |
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Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
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By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline employees
swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare
International Airport last fall. Federal officials say nonsense - it was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United
Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7. The
sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the
overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until
shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation Administration
acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at
O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But
the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar
found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory
said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said. "That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds,
sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune has
more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
Stealth helicopters, yeah that's the ticket. Another great development from
the US Air Force Dept. of Practical Jokes. More likely some drone surveilance
UAV from Homelend Insecurity, scoping out activities at O'Hare. Of course the
FAA won't investigate, Chertof says 'NO you don't see anything, if you know
what's good for your paycheck'. You can do some pretty amazing stuff with
aircraft if you don't have to make allowances for a pilot.
Charly
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04 Jan 2007 09:50:00 PM |
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459CEA3B.E8727579@worldnet.att.net...
Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
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By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline employees
swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare
International Airport last fall. Federal officials say nonsense - it
was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International
Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such
intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United
Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over
the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply
a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7. The
sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the
overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to
be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did
not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was
at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until
shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation Administration
acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at
O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But
the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar
found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory
said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said.
"That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud)
ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds,
sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such
incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune has
more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
Stealth helicopters, yeah that's the ticket. Another great development
from
the US Air Force Dept. of Practical Jokes. More likely some drone
surveilance
UAV from Homelend Insecurity, scoping out activities at O'Hare. Of
course the
FAA won't investigate, Chertof says 'NO you don't see anything, if you
know
what's good for your paycheck'. You can do some pretty amazing stuff
with
aircraft if you don't have to make allowances for a pilot.
Charly
Owing to the differences in witnesses' perceptions, experience, training,
and interpretations, IF the 'saucer' was 'spinning' as described, I know
of no UAV that spins on its axis, Charly. If you have info on that, please
pass it along. Now, IF the object was, as described, solidly 'defined',
then it is highly unlikely it was the result of reflected ground lights
(and considering the 'spinning' aspect,as well as the 'gray' color). No
condensation or exhaust trail was noticed. It was silent. Very weird, IMO.
NUFORC is on top of this credible, good sighting report and I'm sure Peter
Davenport will get as much info as an FOIA request can legally access.
Something very unusual happened over a major, busy airport in
daylight...thousands of lives were potentially at stake with the departure
and arrival of loaded passenger planes.
My guess is that the FAA and the airlines (involved) issued a 'gag order'
on both the witnesses and the radar personnel. Of course, some witnesses
talked, but I'd bet there are more witnesses than we know now (especially
airborne pilots seeing the object). But, if the 'thing' was detected on
radar, ground or air, it's no real trick considering we do have Stealth
technology.
I'm not saying this was an ET craft, or interdimensional visitor...or any
'sci fi' fantastical thing like it...but it is, at this time, very unusual
and not satisfactorily explained in natural or conventional terms.
The 'UFO' that slammed into S. Africa sounds it may have been a large
meteor. The 'UFO' that supposedly crashed near Columbus, GA, is
intriguing. Reports of some government guys showing up and retrieving
debris are circulating. Could've been a secret prototype, etc., but who
the HELL knows?
Docrodile
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05 Jan 2007 12:47:24 PM |
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Docrodile wrote:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459CEA3B.E8727579@worldnet.att.net...
Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline employees
swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare
International Airport last fall. Federal officials say nonsense - it
was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International
Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such
intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United
Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over
the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply
a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7. The
sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the
overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to
be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did
not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was
at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until
shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation Administration
acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at
O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But
the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar
found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory
said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said.
"That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud)
ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds,
sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such
incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune has
more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
Stealth helicopters, yeah that's the ticket. Another great development
from
the US Air Force Dept. of Practical Jokes. More likely some drone
surveilance
UAV from Homelend Insecurity, scoping out activities at O'Hare. Of
course the
FAA won't investigate, Chertof says 'NO you don't see anything, if you
know
what's good for your paycheck'. You can do some pretty amazing stuff
with
aircraft if you don't have to make allowances for a pilot.
Charly
Owing to the differences in witnesses' perceptions, experience, training,
and interpretations, IF the 'saucer' was 'spinning' as described, I know
of no UAV that spins on its axis, Charly. If you have info on that, please
pass it along.
I've seen footage of several UAVs that hover, and one of then would make a
passable 'flying suacer'. The UAV in question is only about six feet across, but
judging dimensions can be tough against a low cloud base. IIRC, it was featured
on one of the Discovery Channel docs on new surveillance technology, so you might
find something there. Being designed for covert action, I suspect that any engine
noise would be heavily muffled, so 'being silent' would be the standard
procedure. The government has lots of gray paint, just ask the Navy for a bucket
and a spraygun. Haze gray flat disappears against clouds. Given the extreme
paranoia environment these days, I suspect covert government action first,
deorbiting junk second, ET last. Our nearest stellar neighbor is 4.5 LY away; why
would anyone want to come all that way just to spook a bunch of hairless apes in
Chicago? The government does have a vested interest in keeping everyone scared
shitless however.
Now, IF the object was, as described, solidly 'defined',
then it is highly unlikely it was the result of reflected ground lights
(and considering the 'spinning' aspect,as well as the 'gray' color). No
condensation or exhaust trail was noticed. It was silent. Very weird, IMO.
NUFORC is on top of this credible, good sighting report and I'm sure Peter
Davenport will get as much info as an FOIA request can legally access.
Something very unusual happened over a major, busy airport in
daylight...thousands of lives were potentially at stake with the departure
and arrival of loaded passenger planes.
My guess is that the FAA and the airlines (involved) issued a 'gag order'
on both the witnesses and the radar personnel. Of course, some witnesses
talked, but I'd bet there are more witnesses than we know now (especially
airborne pilots seeing the object). But, if the 'thing' was detected on
radar, ground or air, it's no real trick considering we do have Stealth
technology.
I'm not saying this was an ET craft, or interdimensional visitor...or any
'sci fi' fantastical thing like it...but it is, at this time, very unusual
and not satisfactorily explained in natural or conventional terms.
The 'UFO' that slammed into S. Africa sounds it may have been a large
meteor. The 'UFO' that supposedly crashed near Columbus, GA, is
intriguing. Reports of some government guys showing up and retrieving
debris are circulating. Could've been a secret prototype, etc., but who
the HELL knows?
Docrodile
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05 Jan 2007 11:28:57 PM |
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459E9D37.FBC203FF@worldnet.att.net...
Docrodile wrote:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459CEA3B.E8727579@worldnet.att.net...
Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
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By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline
employees
snippy snip
I've seen footage of several UAVs that hover, and one of then would make
a
passable 'flying suacer'. The UAV in question is only about six feet
across, but
judging dimensions can be tough against a low cloud base. IIRC, it was
featured
on one of the Discovery Channel docs on new surveillance technology, so
you might
find something there. Being designed for covert action, I suspect that
any engine
noise would be heavily muffled, so 'being silent' would be the standard
procedure. The government has lots of gray paint, just ask the Navy for
a bucket
and a spraygun. Haze gray flat disappears against clouds. Given the
extreme
paranoia environment these days, I suspect covert government action
first,
deorbiting junk second, ET last. Our nearest stellar neighbor is 4.5 LY
away; why
would anyone want to come all that way just to spook a bunch of hairless
apes in
Chicago? The government does have a vested interest in keeping everyone
scared
shitless however.
Hover, yes, using the standard helicopter-type prop system, but spin on
its axis, no. Nothing I've ever come across spins on its axis, yet, that
is beyond a table model or something very limited. There's a fair chance
it's a cutting edge disc design, gyroscopic technology that uses jets to
spin. But, all I've found are the drawing board designs for such aircraft,
and nothing to indicate anyone's been able to successfully put one into
field operation. Now, that doesn't mean a classifed project hasn't
succeeded in getting one fully operational. Why they'd want to have it
appear over a busy major airport is puzzling, unless one accepts the
various conspiracy theories that have the government wanting the public to
believe in aliens to cover intel operations, etc. I don't know what a spy
craft would be surveiling at a public airport. There's nothing classified
on the ground at those places. Perhaps, it was a malfunction.
One thing's pretty certain: it wasn't a cloud or atmospheric phenomenon.
This was a solid metal craft and that means it's either built by us, or
built by another species.I agree with you that it's hard to fathom why
aliens from a distant planet would appear at O'Hare Airport...but I don't
know what the motivations would be of another species. Could be an
accident...or mischief...or they spied a good lookin' ***** on the tarmac,
adjusting her bra...LOL!
Docrodile
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Charly the *****
<nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> Spat the Words
Docrodile wrote:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459CEA3B.E8727579@worldnet.att.net...
Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
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By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline
employees swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering
over O'Hare International Airport last fall. Federal officials say
nonsense - it was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International
Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such
intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some
United Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace
over the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or
simply a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7.
The sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before
sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in
the overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different
accounts to be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it
did not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it
was at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck,
until shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation
Administration acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the
control tower at O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning
disc-shaped object. But the controllers didn't see anything, and a
preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA
spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said.
"That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud)
ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the
clouds, sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such
incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune
has more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
Stealth helicopters, yeah that's the ticket. Another great
development from
the US Air Force Dept. of Practical Jokes. More likely some drone
surveilance
UAV from Homelend Insecurity, scoping out activities at O'Hare. Of
course the
FAA won't investigate, Chertof says 'NO you don't see anything, if
you know
what's good for your paycheck'. You can do some pretty amazing stuff
with
aircraft if you don't have to make allowances for a pilot.
Charly
Owing to the differences in witnesses' perceptions, experience,
training, and interpretations, IF the 'saucer' was 'spinning' as
described, I know of no UAV that spins on its axis, Charly. If you have
info on that, please pass it along.
I've seen footage of several UAVs that hover, and one of then would make
a passable 'flying suacer'. The UAV in question is only about six feet
across, but judging dimensions can be tough against a low cloud base.
IIRC, it was featured on one of the Discovery Channel docs on new
surveillance technology, so you might find something there. Being
designed for covert action, I suspect that any engine noise would be
heavily muffled, so 'being silent' would be the standard procedure. The
government has lots of gray paint, just ask the Navy for a bucket and a
spraygun. Haze gray flat disappears against clouds. Given the extreme
paranoia environment these days, I suspect covert government action
first, deorbiting junk second, ET last. Our nearest stellar neighbor is
4.5 LY away; why would anyone want to come all that way just to spook a
bunch of hairless apes in Chicago?
Did you just call me a hairless ape ? :-§
The government does have a vested
interest in keeping everyone scared shitless however.
Now, IF the object was, as described, solidly 'defined',
then it is highly unlikely it was the result of reflected ground lights
(and considering the 'spinning' aspect,as well as the 'gray' color). No
condensation or exhaust trail was noticed. It was silent. Very weird,
IMO. NUFORC is on top of this credible, good sighting report and I'm
sure Peter Davenport will get as much info as an FOIA request can
legally access. Something very unusual happened over a major, busy
airport in daylight...thousands of lives were potentially at stake with
the departure and arrival of loaded passenger planes.
My guess is that the FAA and the airlines (involved) issued a 'gag
order' on both the witnesses and the radar personnel. Of course, some
witnesses talked, but I'd bet there are more witnesses than we know now
(especially airborne pilots seeing the object). But, if the 'thing'
was detected on radar, ground or air, it's no real trick considering we
do have Stealth technology.
I'm not saying this was an ET craft, or interdimensional visitor...or
any 'sci fi' fantastical thing like it...but it is, at this time, very
unusual and not satisfactorily explained in natural or conventional
terms. The 'UFO' that slammed into S. Africa sounds it may have been a
large meteor. The 'UFO' that supposedly crashed near Columbus, GA, is
intriguing. Reports of some government guys showing up and retrieving
debris are circulating. Could've been a secret prototype, etc., but who
the HELL knows?
Docrodile
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04 Jan 2007 05:12:28 PM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:19:43 -0800, Docrodile wrote:
O'Hare UFO: Hoax or Real Sighting?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Jack Kramer
Jan 3, 2007
O'Hare UFO? That's the question. A group of United Airline employees
swear they saw a mysterious saucer-shaped craft hovering over O'Hare
International Airport last fall. Federal officials say nonsense - it was
probably just some weird weather phenomenon. Jon Hilkevitch of the
Chicago tribune describes the sighting this way.
A flying saucerlike object hovered low over O'Hare International Airport
for several minutes before bolting through thick clouds with such intense
energy that it left an eerie hole in overcast skies, said some United
Airlines employees who observed the phenomenon.
Was it an alien spaceship? A weather balloon lost in the airspace over the
world's second-busiest airport? A top-secret military craft? Or simply a
reflection from lights that played a trick on the eyes?
***
According to the Tribune report the event happened on November 7. The
sighting occurred during daylight, about 4:30 p.m., just before sunset.
All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the
overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be
6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.
Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not
appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a
fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until
shooting off into the clouds.
***
According to the Associated Press the Federal Aviation Administration
acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at
O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. But
the controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar
found nothing out of the ordinary, FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory
said.
"Our theory on this is that it was a weather phenomenon," Cory said. "That
night was a perfect atmospheric condition in terms of low (cloud) ceiling
and a lot of airport lights. When the lights shine up into the clouds,
sometimes you can see funny things."
The FAA is not investigating, Cory said. United spokeswoman Megan
McCarthy said company officials don't recall discussing any such incident
from Nov. 7.
So was it a hoax or a real sighting? You be the judge - the Tribune has
more here
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610756.shtml
Here's the weather summary for Chicago on that date:
http://www.weatherunderground.com/history/airport/KMDW/2006/11/7/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
There were no reported wind gusts at the airport, no kind of turbulence.
I don't buy that airport lights, even shining straight up into clouds, is
going to make it look like there's a disc hovering and then shooting up
through the clouds fast enough to put a hole in an overcast sky.
Woods
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