Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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20 Sep 2004 09:48:20 AM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
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20 Sep 2004 10:21:16 AM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Not if you don't belong to the Roman Catholic church. The index
was composed by the Roman Catholic church and not the Protestant
church. Futhermore, I don't study astrology as I don't consider it
a plausible science.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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20 Sep 2004 02:41:30 PM |
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"jha_amin" <jha_amin@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Not if you don't belong to the Roman Catholic church. The index
was composed by the Roman Catholic church and not the Protestant
church. Futhermore, I don't study astrology as I don't consider it
a plausible science.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
There is not astrological interpretation in the prophetic work.
But losers like you are the very one Nostradamus wants out of his
prophecies by the very verse you quote.
J.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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20 Sep 2004 09:10:15 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"jha_amin" <jha_amin@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning
Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Not if you don't belong to the Roman Catholic church. The index
was composed by the Roman Catholic church and not the Protestant
church. Futhermore, I don't study astrology as I don't consider it
a plausible science.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
There is not astrological interpretation in the prophetic work.
But losers like you are the very one Nostradamus wants out of his
prophecies by the very verse you quote.
Your opinion means nothing to me. However, it was not a verse, see,
you lie again.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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20 Sep 2004 02:39:47 PM |
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jha_amin a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Barbarossa has no clue. And so you apparently.
J.
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| User: "Barbarossa" |
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20 Sep 2004 09:13:02 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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jha_amin a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Barbarossa has no clue. And so you apparently.
I am quiet interested in how you can explain Nostradamus' use of
astrology (condemned by Rome and the Bible) makes him a true
Christian?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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21 Sep 2004 02:28:14 AM |
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You are quiet interested? LOL
Well, it was his job as a doctor, and he used it only to apply
psychology by popular demand, and to insert his personal premonition,
all of which had nothing to do with the prophetic work as he says, but
despite the fact it was his destiny, it is the reason why he didn't want
to have the title of prophet even if his sacred work was prophetic
(revealed by God).
J.
Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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jha_amin a écrit:
"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
If that is the case (and i have no reason to doubt it) i would think
it would also be forbidden for a christian to study nostrdamus.
Barbarossa has no clue. And so you apparently.
I am quiet interested in how you can explain Nostradamus' use of
astrology (condemned by Rome and the Bible) makes him a true
Christian?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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20 Sep 2004 05:34:53 PM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this
work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain
themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the
rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
There have been many attempts to put Nostradamus at the centre of
esoteric tradition, though none are really conclusive, it is more than
possible he dabbled in such traditions, if he was interested in such
stuff, he would no doubt have uncovered, such folk, and perhap swapped
yarns and literature, reading his "cookbook" shows he was interested
in natural things and was probably open to such notions as esoteric
thought.
But I doubt he was a kabbalist or mason.
LB
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20 Sep 2004 12:33:57 PM |
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<414eadc1$0$24603$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Oh wise one you know all the secrets - Is Cuan really a space'0'ship man?
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| User: "Claude Latremouille" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:43:25 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:16:33 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
*
Hello everyone,
There is one thing that really bugs me and that is a warning Nostradamus
wrote between Centuries VI and VII.
I must translate from a French-Dutch translations to English:
"They, who read these verses, should consider them maturely.
The profane and ignorant people should not be attracted to this work
And all the astrologers, stupid and barbarians much refrain themselves.
He who does differently should be condemned according to the rite"
Condemning according to a rite? The Holy Bible certainly does not
condemn people by rite. You will be judged on judgement day.
Condemning by rite is something very common in secret sects and
societies like the Freemasonry, Illuminatie, Skull and Bones,
Rosycrucians and the like.
Does this mean that Nostradamus belonged to one of them? It
surely looks that way. He also studied forbidden books (books
that were on the index of Rome). He was engaged in astrology,
which is condemned by the Holy Bible. Makes you kind of
wondering right?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
*
You should not have linked the two items. Nostradamus could have
been, and probably was, involved in some secret society. At the
same time, his LEGIS CANTIO had nothing to do with that because
this text, just like many of his published texts, is an
encyphered text, lifted from a very similar text by another
author, but slightly changed to make his line-based cryptic
anagrams.
*
As I was saying earlier in:
*
Subject: Legis cantio (1568) in anagrams
Message-ID: <Fqp56J.1ys.0.queen@torfree.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:49:29 GMT
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Taken from
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Message-ID: <FBxv9u.15C.0.queen@torfree.net>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:29:53 GMT
*
And originally posted as:
*
Subject: Example of cryptic anagrams (Legis cantio)
Message-ID: <EwI91q.L3B.0.queen@torfree.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:41:50 GMT
*
One of the most irritating features of the cryptic anagrams found
in Nostradamus' prophecies involve the omnipresence of the
decryptor in Nostradamus' prose.
*
Irritating primarily to the decryptor himself, as that feature of
the prophecies - more than any other one, tends to suscitate
disbelief for the decrypted result. The decryptor being the last
person on Earth interested in provoking such disbelief, he would
be the first one to concede that such an insistence by
Nostradamus at pointing to the identity of the person having
'translated' (his verb) his poetry into prose was a very clumsy
attempt (by Nostradamus) to make more credible a prophecy which
is already very unbelievable.
*
Irritating also to the reader of the decrypted prophecy who
cannot help but realize that only two persons *could* have been
responsible for insisting so much on the identity of the
decryptor ('the translator', as Nostradamus calls him): (1)
Nostradamus and (2) the decryptor himself. Which does not help
the case for the cryptic anagrams.
*
Most irritating, of course, to the countless other students of
the prophecies who may suddenly feel cheated of their 15 minutes
of fame by a clever ploy devised by none other than the alleged
decryptor himself.
*
Therefore it might not come as a total surprize that Nostradamus
has used variations upon other known texts of his days to 'play'
with the identity of his translator, knowing full well that his
decrypted prose would never be believed.
*
The cherry on top of that cake was to see in the so-called 1568
edition an oft-quoted text *in Latin!* transformed by the magic
of the anagram into a heart-wrenching cry by Nostradamus to the
City of Paris, pleading with her that she should believe her eyes
when reading his decrypted prophecy.
*
Leading me to an article posted on Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:15:05 GMT:
*
"Is it not about time that Nostradamus' own satanic verses *****
fatwa be posted in all their glory for the readers of a.p.n.?
*
Legis cantio contra ineptos criticos.
Quos legent hosce versus maturè censunto,
Profanum vulgus et inscium ne attrectato:
Omnesque; Astrologi Blenni, Barbari procul sunto,
Qui aliter facit , is ritè , sacer esto."
*
If that text always looked to the uninitiated eye as a title
followed by a quatrain in Latin, just imagine the surprize of the
decryptor himself when he realized - not only that the decrypted
text was referring (once again) to him, but that *all five lines*
constituted a hidden poignant text:
*
Paris, crois-moi ! Tu es la cité innocente
Que l'U S tue avec son Atome de grosse chaleur
Empestée ! Ung Oracle ancien t'amuse et tu ris
Du très long poësme qu'un brillant Torontois aura
Traduict et que tu ne croiras iamais !
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Which, in not-too-elegant English might read as:
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Paris, believe me! Thou art the innocent City
which the US slays with her Atom of big heat
of plague! An ancient Oracle amuses thou and thou laugheth
at the very long poem which a brillant Torontonian would have
translated and which thou shalt never believe!
*
Forgive the 'Atom of big heat of plague', which I would have
preferred to translate into English as 'her big plague-ridden
atomic heat', but this would have moved certain words from one
line to the next, and made the comparison between the two texts
more difficult.
*
Why 'plague-ridden'? Because Nostradamus knows that the
radioactivity yielded by the thermonuclear blast of August 13,
2017, at 3:53 a.m. over the Place de la Concorde in Paris,
resembles very much the plague which he had witnessed in 1546 in
Aix, just to mention that one.
*
In 2017, like a plague, the plutonium poisoning from which die
three quarters of the then residents of Paris (the other quarter
having been fried by the atomic blast itself) is invisible,
strikes everyone, does not have a cure, kills slowly, etc. Which
explains why Nostradamus insists so much in his original poetry
on the plague, an oft-repeated evil in his quatrains.
*
One of the advantages for the use by Nostradamus of a variation
upon an already published text is to allow the obvious to
become... even more obvious. In April, I was prompted by Peter
Lemesurier to make a comparison between Nostradamus' text and the
original text from *De honesta disciplina* by Petrus Crinitus as
quoted by Pierre Brind'Amour at page 100 of his "Nostradamus
astrophile":
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Legis cautio contra ineptos criticos
Quoi legent hosce libros, maturè censunto :
Profanum uolgus & inscium, ne attrectato :
Omnesque legulei, blenni, barbari procul sunto :
Qui aliter faxit, is ritè sacer esto.
*
After having assigned a number from 1 to 5 to the corresponding
lines by Nostradamus:
*
Legis cantio contra ineptos criticos. LINE 1
Quos legent hosce versus maturè censunto, LINE 2
Profanum vulgus & inscium ne attrectato: LINE 3
Omnesque; Astrologi Blenni, Barbari procul sunto, LINE 4
Qui aliter facit , is ritè , sacer esto. LINE 5
*
LINE 1: cautio has become cantio.
LINE 2: Quoi has become Quos.
LINE 2: libros has become versus.
LINE 3: uolgus has become vulgus.
LINE 4: legulei has become Astrologi.
LINE 5: faxit has become facit.
*
Which illustrates how an hitherto innocent text, already
published, can become at the hands of France's most brilliant
seer a warning to all astrologers, ignorants, foreigners, not to
come close to the prophecy, as they may be cursed if they do.
*
What does this tell us about the mind of Nostradamus?
*
That he will use almost anything and everything to hide his
dearest secret, always leaving a clue for the intelligent reader
to discover his trick; in this case, using a text he has
obviously tampered with.
*
The decryptor having had nothing to do with neither Crinitus'
text, nor Nostradamus' text, it cannot be inferred that the
decryptor is at the source of the anagram which Nostradamus' text
allows. Nor is the decryptor able to show that he is not.
*
[sigh]
*
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Claude Latrémouille % -- "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' -- %
Le 29 février 2000- % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses,- %
APNCL#1207 -------- % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
------------------- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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Have a nice day, ye all!
*
Claude Latrémouille
*
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20 Sep 2004 11:22:03 AM |
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"Claude Latremouille" <cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> schreef in bericht
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:16:33 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
<snip>
So, when in 2017 no nuclear bomb hits Paris we can just eliminate
your attempt to explain Nostradamus?
What if it happens earlier?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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20 Sep 2004 06:29:02 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:22:03 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
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So, when in 2017 no nuclear bomb hits Paris we can just eliminate
your attempt to explain Nostradamus?
*
Your ability to predict the future is quite impressive, compared
to my own lack of ability to do so. You might therefore find my
suggestion that you ought to chain yourself to the Obelisk at the
Place de la Concorde at around 3:30 a.m., on Sunday, August 13,
2017, to be quite inoffensive, as -- per your own prophetic words
-- nothing will happen there, 23 minutes later.
*
What if it happens earlier?
*
What if *WHAT* happens earlier?
*
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
*
Another brave Anonymous critic, as I can see.
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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20 Sep 2004 09:03:21 PM |
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"Claude Latremouille" <cj559@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> schreef in bericht
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:22:03 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
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So, when in 2017 no nuclear bomb hits Paris we can just eliminate
your attempt to explain Nostradamus?
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Your ability to predict the future is quite impressive, compared
to my own lack of ability to do so. You might therefore find my
suggestion that you ought to chain yourself to the Obelisk at the
Place de la Concorde at around 3:30 a.m., on Sunday, August 13,
2017, to be quite inoffensive, as -- per your own prophetic words
-- nothing will happen there, 23 minutes later.
I don't recall having said that I was able to predict the future. What
I do see is pattern which repeats itself in history. How people can be
manipulated into believing leaders and then go to war. It happened
5000 years ago, it still happens today. The leaders would be in a lot
of trouble when all soldiers in all countries would suddenly say that
they all quit.
I am just a mortal soul with a great mind. So, if you please, enlighten
me with your view on Nostradamus. Where can I read or buy your
interpretations of the quatrains and where do you explain the key of
the "decoding".
On the other hand. If it is 14th August 2017 and nothing happened
in Paris we can put you in the same category as Sollog.
What if it happens earlier?
What if *WHAT* happens earlier?
A nuclear bomb on Paris. The city of Isis (Par Isis)
Soixons was not good enough hey?
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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21 Sep 2004 08:54:45 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 04:03:21 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
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I am just a mortal soul with a great mind.
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Mortal soul, no doubt. As to the 'great mind', judging from your
posts and as we used to say in Quebec, 'on repassera' !
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So, if you please, enlighten
me with your view on Nostradamus. Where can I read or buy your
interpretations of the quatrains and where do you explain the key of
the "decoding".
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Well, had you not snipped the very answer to your questions, you
would already be busy reading it for your greatest enjoyment! :)
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Remember having read this?
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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On the other hand. If it is 14th August 2017 and nothing happened
in Paris we can put you in the same category as Sollog.
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Fair enough. Although I might be tempted to add that the
decyphering of Nostradamus' texts has been correctly done (as it
is impossible to have made thousands of mistakes all leading to
the same description of the same circumstances of the same
event), but that the person who did encypher these texts turned
out to have been wrong about what these texts are saying. Highly
hypothetical, of course, as he does tell us (in Latin) that... he
can't be wrong.
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latrémouille
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25 Sep 2004 06:57:42 PM |
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Nostradamus warned astrologers to stay away from his prophecies because he
himself did not recognize the ability of the planets to effect any prophecy,
and rightly so. Nostradamus used the planets and their conjunctions to tell a
story, with the planets and mythological names representing groups, actions
and individuals who shortly will come into contact and conflict. The planets
and hevenly bodies are a time clock, and Nostradamus used them wisely.
And the pantomine begins.
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26 Sep 2004 05:24:49 PM |
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"JimGem3015" <jimgem3015@aol.com> schreef in bericht
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Nostradamus warned astrologers to stay away from his prophecies because he
himself did not recognize the ability of the planets to effect any
prophecy,
and rightly so. Nostradamus used the planets and their conjunctions to
tell a
story, with the planets and mythological names representing groups,
actions
and individuals who shortly will come into contact and conflict. The
planets
and hevenly bodies are a time clock, and Nostradamus used them wisely.
And the pantomine begins.
Why did he not just named dates and actual persons? Surely after his death
this would not have harmed him. He could have started that in 1600.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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| User: "JimGem3015" |
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26 Sep 2004 06:14:56 PM |
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Barbarossa,
What was the responce that Herod enacted when told that a king had been born?
Did he have all the firstborn males under two slaughtered?
Nostradamus knew what he was doing.
Man has not changed much since then.
Your friend.
JIM
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26 Sep 2004 11:45:40 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:24:49 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
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Why did he not just named dates and actual persons? Surely after his death
this would not have harmed him. He could have started that in 1600.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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An extremely important question. To achieve his goal, Nostradamus
had to do three things :
*
1. Protect his person from contemporary potentates.
2. Protect his books from contemporary potentates.
3. Protect his books from future potentates.
*
Your suggestion above would have achieved only 1 and 2, and
perhaps only 1. The most important, if 1 and 2 are achieved, is
3, as 3 lasts some 450 years (1566 to 2017). To give some
examples:
*
What would Catherine de Médici have done had she known that the
Prophecy announced that Henry IV the Protestant would eventually
rule France? Answer: She would have had him murdered.
*
What would Adolf Hitler have done had he known that the Prophecy
announced his death while his capital was being overtaken by
Stalin's army? Answer: He would have suppressed the Prophecy.
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
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Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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27 Sep 2004 05:26:13 AM |
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On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:24:49 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
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Why did he not just named dates and actual persons? Surely after his death
this would not have harmed him. He could have started that in 1600.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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An extremely important question. To achieve his goal, Nostradamus
had to do three things :
*
1. Protect his person from contemporary potentates.
2. Protect his books from contemporary potentates.
3. Protect his books from future potentates.
*
Your suggestion above would have achieved only 1 and 2, and
perhaps only 1. The most important, if 1 and 2 are achieved, is
3, as 3 lasts some 450 years (1566 to 2017). To give some
examples:
*
What would Catherine de Médici have done had she known that the
Prophecy announced that Henry IV the Protestant would eventually
rule France? Answer: She would have had him murdered.
*
What would Adolf Hitler have done had he known that the Prophecy
announced his death while his capital was being overtaken by
Stalin's army? Answer: He would have suppressed the Prophecy.
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand. Hiroshima might never have
been bombed if people knew of it beforehand. In other words, what
you're saying is that Nostradamus wrote prophesies to be decrypted
after the fact - worthless to anybody, but good for his reputation as
a prophet.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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29 Sep 2004 04:16:33 PM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:24:49 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
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Why did he not just named dates and actual persons? Surely after his death
this would not have harmed him. He could have started that in 1600.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
*
An extremely important question. To achieve his goal, Nostradamus
had to do three things :
*
1. Protect his person from contemporary potentates.
2. Protect his books from contemporary potentates.
3. Protect his books from future potentates.
*
Your suggestion above would have achieved only 1 and 2, and
perhaps only 1. The most important, if 1 and 2 are achieved, is
3, as 3 lasts some 450 years (1566 to 2017). To give some
examples:
*
What would Catherine de Médici have done had she known that the
Prophecy announced that Henry IV the Protestant would eventually
rule France? Answer: She would have had him murdered.
*
What would Adolf Hitler have done had he known that the Prophecy
announced his death while his capital was being overtaken by
Stalin's army? Answer: He would have suppressed the Prophecy.
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand. Hiroshima might never have
been bombed if people knew of it beforehand. In other words, what
you're saying is that Nostradamus wrote prophesies to be decrypted
after the fact - worthless to anybody, but good for his reputation as
a prophet.
Not even, he was going to be dead before humanity would make sense of them.
Their only object is to prove that God exist.
J.
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30 Sep 2004 10:25:15 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:16:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 00:24:49 +0200, "Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be>
wrote:
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Why did he not just named dates and actual persons? Surely after his death
this would not have harmed him. He could have started that in 1600.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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An extremely important question. To achieve his goal, Nostradamus
had to do three things :
*
1. Protect his person from contemporary potentates.
2. Protect his books from contemporary potentates.
3. Protect his books from future potentates.
*
Your suggestion above would have achieved only 1 and 2, and
perhaps only 1. The most important, if 1 and 2 are achieved, is
3, as 3 lasts some 450 years (1566 to 2017). To give some
examples:
*
What would Catherine de Médici have done had she known that the
Prophecy announced that Henry IV the Protestant would eventually
rule France? Answer: She would have had him murdered.
*
What would Adolf Hitler have done had he known that the Prophecy
announced his death while his capital was being overtaken by
Stalin's army? Answer: He would have suppressed the Prophecy.
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand. Hiroshima might never have
been bombed if people knew of it beforehand. In other words, what
you're saying is that Nostradamus wrote prophesies to be decrypted
after the fact - worthless to anybody, but good for his reputation as
a prophet.
Not even, he was going to be dead before humanity would make sense of them.
Their only object is to prove that God exist.
....and atheism wins yet another round.
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27 Sep 2004 01:36:25 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:26:13 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote about what
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On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
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[...]
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand.
*
Missed the point again! Had Nostradamus' prophecy been so clear
that it would have allowed its readers to see beforehand the rise
and fall of Adolf Hitler, it would have been suppressed by former
potentates who would also have seen too clearly their own fate.
*
Hiroshima might never have
been bombed if people knew of it beforehand.
*
Missed the point once more! Nostradamus' prophecy was engineered
so as to be decyphered only *after* Hiroshima (1945) because, had
it been decyphered beforehand, the unintended destruction of
Paris on August 13, 2017, at 3:53 a.m., would have made no sense
whatsoever as, prior to Hiroshima, no known weapon could then
have possibly destroyed a city in a single shot.
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In other words, what
you're saying is that [...]
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You won't get very far by putting stupid words in my mouth: I'll
spit them back in your face.
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Nostradamus wrote prophesies to be decrypted
after the fact [...]
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If you were smart, you would have realized that Nostradamus'
encyphered texts about our past could not have been discovered
before the fact, as their decypherer would have needed the
information concerning past events to realize (1) that the texts
were encyphered, and (2) to be able to decypher them. Only after
this realization would have taken place, would it have been
possible for the decypherer to discover that a text was hidden
'inside' Nostradamus' published texts.
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- worthless to anybody, but good for his reputation as
a prophet.
*
True and false. Not worthless to anybody, as the realization
*after the fact* that Nostradamus truly was a seer/prophet would
have prepared his readers to accept his prophecies about the
future *as prophecies*, which is a basic requirement for his
readers to realize that which follows.
*
And that which follows involves some intelligence on your part (I
am an optimist!). If you are a reader of Nostradamus' published
texts and if you realize that his known prophecies have come to
light only after the fact, you might then realize that
Nostradamus did not intend his published texts to be understood
before the fact, and you might then ask yourself the question:
Why did he do this? And the answer is: Because Nostradamus wanted
his readers to realize that the texts they were reading WERE NOT
the prophecy but were hiding it.
*
And this is one very sure way to lead his readers to realize that
the decyphered texts ARE his prophecy and not an invention of the
person who decyphered them.
*
Have a nice day, ye all!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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27 Sep 2004 08:04:23 PM |
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(Claude Latremouille) wrote in message news:<cj9mj9$phu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:26:13 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote about what
*
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
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[...]
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand.
*
Missed the point again! Had Nostradamus' prophecy been so clear
that it would have allowed its readers to see beforehand the rise
and fall of Adolf Hitler, it would have been suppressed by former
potentates who would also have seen too clearly their own fate.
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
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28 Sep 2004 08:18:06 AM |
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On 27 Sep 2004 18:04:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
(Claude Latremouille) wrote in message news:<cj9mj9$phu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:26:13 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote about what
*
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
*
[...]
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand.
*
Missed the point again! Had Nostradamus' prophecy been so clear
that it would have allowed its readers to see beforehand the rise
and fall of Adolf Hitler, it would have been suppressed by former
potentates who would also have seen too clearly their own fate.
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
Well, John gave the outcome of an event, so did Daniel, so did Elijah
etc. What's wrong with Nostradamus?
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28 Sep 2004 01:44:52 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<troil09pv3ic6rgg6p61br7i7779mheq9u@4ax.com>...
On 27 Sep 2004 18:04:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
[Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
lol ;)
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
Well, John gave the outcome of an event, so did Daniel, so did Elijah
etc. What's wrong with Nostradamus?
Large subject here - I do not have time at the moment.
However quickly... I have discussed false prophecies in the Bible
years ago with non-disputed agreements, even by historical literary
giants who did a bulk of the work ( There findings not mine) then
today's commentators - But I researched it and it is a large
comprehensive subject. I said some not all.
Nostradamus was more specific:
Humm.. Nostradamus gave words like Hister [capitalized] , Hitler ( One
edition) hilter and other close proximities to the name of Hitler.
Although debunkers aside from the 'river' argument I see no close
comparison in either John, Daniel or Elijah, although they have their
own specific terms that are surely relevant.
However, examples posted by you (The point) will help. ;)
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29 Sep 2004 05:57:50 AM |
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <> wrote in message
news:dd3256f0.0409281044.12bcfa3d@posting.google.com...
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:<troil09pv3ic6rgg6p61br7i7779mheq9u@4ax.com>...
On 27 Sep 2004 18:04:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
[Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
lol ;)
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
Well, John gave the outcome of an event, so did Daniel, so did Elijah
etc. What's wrong with Nostradamus?
Large subject here - I do not have time at the moment.
However quickly... I have discussed false prophecies in the Bible
years ago with non-disputed agreements, even by historical literary
giants who did a bulk of the work ( There findings not mine) then
today's commentators - But I researched it and it is a large
comprehensive subject. I said some not all.
Nostradamus was more specific:
Humm.. Nostradamus gave words like Hister [capitalized] , Hitler ( One
edition) hilter and other close proximities to the name of Hitler.
But he wasn't talking about Hitler so it's irrelevant.
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28 Sep 2004 12:01:16 PM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On 27 Sep 2004 18:04:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
(Claude Latremouille) wrote in message news:<cj9mj9$phu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:26:13 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote about what
*
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
*
[...]
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand.
*
Missed the point again! Had Nostradamus' prophecy been so clear
that it would have allowed its readers to see beforehand the rise
and fall of Adolf Hitler, it would have been suppressed by former
potentates who would also have seen too clearly their own fate.
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
To his defense, Yoda hadn't met you. LOL
J.
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
Well, John gave the outcome of an event, so did Daniel, so did Elijah
etc. What's wrong with Nostradamus?
.
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| User: "Cuan" |
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29 Sep 2004 01:16:00 AM |
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:01:16 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On 27 Sep 2004 18:04:23 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
(Claude Latremouille) wrote in message news:<cj9mj9$phu$1@freenet9.carleton.ca>...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:26:13 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote about what
*
On 27 Sep 2004 04:45:40 GMT, (Claude
Latremouille) wrote:
*
[...]
*
As a result, Nostradamus' Prophecy was engineered so as to be
decyphered only after Hitler's death (1945), after Hiroshima
(1945), and before the unintended destruction of Paris (2017).
Just to be somewhat of a troll, Adolf Hitler might never have got into
power if people knew of him beforehand.
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Missed the point again! Had Nostradamus' prophecy been so clear
that it would have allowed its readers to see beforehand the rise
and fall of Adolf Hitler, it would have been suppressed by former
potentates who would also have seen too clearly their own fate.
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
To his defense, Yoda hadn't met you. LOL
How can you be so sure?
This is an ad nausea argument that will continue as long as dufuses'
exist.
C6 Q100.
Cuan do you understand what global power and persuasion is? *Most* do
not want to understand an outcome prior to the event. God gave them
that choice. However, God see things differently and it is not
revealed here about the others. ;)
Well, John gave the outcome of an event, so did Daniel, so did Elijah
etc. What's wrong with Nostradamus?
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: Was Nostradamus a Freemason or member of another sect? |
29 Sep 2004 03:04:00 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<8okkl0937kmnii8fhd8f1cvhdq813gghio@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:01:16 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
To his defense, Yoda hadn't met you. LOL
How can you be so sure?
Bwahahahaha... We have a character here who believes his presence
blends in with a Hollywood film.
<Play Twilight Zone Music on Full>
So Cuan, what does Yoda tell ya in your meetings? You should know? ;)
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: Was Nostradamus a Freemason or member of another sect? |
30 Sep 2004 12:55:08 AM |
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On 29 Sep 2004 13:04:00 -0700, (Michael
Johnathan McDonald) wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<8okkl0937kmnii8fhd8f1cvhdq813gghio@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:01:16 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
You mean if Cuan had the outcomes of every World Cup, Every Olympic
and political election then published it they ( The world) would not
kill him outright then burn the books? [Yoda] Surely not bozos can
understand this basic concept... [/Yoda]
"No! Try not! Do, or do not! There is no such thing as try."
Now *that's* a Yoda philosophy. Yoda didn't have the word "bozos" in
his vocabulary.
To his defense, Yoda hadn't met you. LOL
How can you be so sure?
Bwahahahaha... We have a character here who believes his presence
blends in with a Hollywood film.
<Play Twilight Zone Music on Full>
So Cuan, what does Yoda tell ya in your meetings? You should know? ;)
"Is it tolerance for imbeciles you seek? u-u-u-h."
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